I don't know man, from what I've seen summaries of, I don't think Superman would ever be able to hold Imperiex down 1 on 1. He was an interesting antagonist in the comics.

No... Mongul is a low tier villain; Superman was pulling his punches to avoid killing him by accident. If Superman every looks like he's struggling, he isn't; he's holding himself back.

Turns out I was thinking of the wrong villain, my bad. But still, everyone likes to underestimate Superman's strength. Supes held a black hole in his hand; he can move planets without much effort, and he's basically invulnerable. Doomsday is one of the few villains that can reliably harm Superman. IMO, Mongul wouldn't stand a chance if Superman was willing to kill him.

Flash
Batman
Nightwing
Sentry
Thor
Hulk
Wonderwomen
Captain Marvel
The Powerpuff Girls
Doomsday
A nuclear missle
Lobo

Yes the flash aswell. Even without the speed force he could do his due in a fight against superman. can't believe I missed him.

Flash is faster then superman he would punch superman 100 times before he could get hit

No he's not, superman beat flash in a race.

Are you fucking kidding? The Flash bends fucking time, breaks the laws of fucking physics he would fucking run steal kryptonite jam it into clarks ass before he could rev up to swing

http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/races.html

All of the Supes-Flash races resulted in either a tie, or a close victory to either person.

You're underestimating Superman. He's not just a strong dude; he can move faster than the speed of light.

Your full of shit what about anyone else on my list?

The fact that you didn't bother refuting what I said proves me right by default.

Flash (Superman is pretty much on par with him speed wise)
Batman (Batman has never beat Supes in a fair fight, despite popular belief.)
Nightwing (Same type deal)
Sentry (That's a Marvel villain, smart one.)
Thor (Supes is stronger)
Hulk (Supes is stronger)
Wonderwomen (Supes is stronger)
Captain Marvel (Superman beat Black Adam before, so I'm pretty sure he can beat Marvel)
The Powerpuff Girls (Lolno.)
Doomsday (Doomsday has killed Superman, so yes.)
A nuclear missle (Supes has survived nukes before without a scratch.)
Lobo (His strength varies dramatically from writer to writer. I honestly don't know.)

Now that im on my computer let me explain
Flash- Waly West was the fastest man alive, he could out run supermans flying
Batman- Fighting fair isnt his thing, how can he fairly fight a borderline god
Nightwing- Same thing as batman, he also can get Kryptonite easy because batman loves him
Sentry- You acknowledged Thor and Hulk, and Sentry is basically Superman
Thor- He is a magical God who can't die until Ragnorous...which he beat and became even more powerful
Hulk- The more you hit him, the more pissed he gets, the stronger he gets and the faster he can kick the crap out of Supes
Wonderwomen- She has a magical whip
Captain Marvel- Captain Marvel uses magic, he would dominate Supes because when you involve magic, superman becomes man
The Powerpuff Girls- They are actually pretty strong and could give him a run for his money
Doomsday...exactly
A nuclear missle- It killed Supes once and 90% of the justice league
Lobo- Is still capable of kicking supes ass

You are an idiot, Thor is stronger also he's magical....mothafucka

You missed Spectre, Captain Marvel(Shazam), Black Adam, Lobo, Atomic Skull, Solomon Grundy, Dr Fate, Power Girl, and Martian Manhunter. All these characters can hold there own against Supes considering there is no PIS involved like he's been sitting in the sun for a decade or some stupid shit.

and powergirl is a gurl, she could never beat superman in a fist fight cause hes a MAN!!!

have you even read the comics? Lobo has wiped the floor with superman time and time again. Martian Manhunter beat him to a pulp in their first encounter. Atomic Skull usually loses but he puts up a fight and holds his own. Why would Black Adam and Shazam be excluded? Superman gets his powers from the sun? It doesn't matter where the powers come from, it matters how they are used. What does Grundy being dead have to do with a fistfight?

That's because Supes was holding back. If Superman wanted to kill any of those listed, he would do it without breaking a sweat. One punch from Supes would obliterate Manhunter (remember, Supes can move faster than light and move entire planets), and most of the other people.

That's seriously all you superman fans can come up with? That stupid PIS moment in the Justice League animated series. What guy holds back when he's being beaten to a bloody pulp. Superman isn't as stupid as you guys are making him out to be.

Stupid? His refusal to kill is stupid? So your saying Batman is stupid as well? Superman WILL NOT KILL, and he generally doesn't maim. That means, he pulls his punches, almost every single time he fights. In his fights with Bats, do you honestly believe he was going to punch him with all his strength? Same deal with everyone else he's fought.

Yes but I think when your about to die you might want to use a bit more force unless of course you can't because you weren't holding back and you were trying to live.

Superman is basically immune to psychic attacks, and can use his heat vision to fuck with MM. I'm pretty sure Supes would win that one, but I'm not an expert on MM, so maybe you're right.

He's immune to most physical damage but not all. He still takes beatings from darkseid and sometimes wonderwoman and while MM has a weakness to fire he also has the ability of intangibility. I'm not trying to say Superman is weak and he loses to these people 10 times outta 10 but the total disregard that these others can hold their own against superman bothers me.

i dont think you two get how op superman is, he benchpressed the entire earth for days, solomon grundy is still only made by flesh, so he would get pwnt, captain marvel and black adam arent on the same level

Shazam. Infinite Wisdom of Solomon, Strength of the Mighty Hercules, Undying Courage of Artemis, The Fierce Lightning of Zeus, The Everlasting Stamina of Atlas, And The Instant Speed of Mercury. All capt really needs is the stamina, speed, and lightning to win. Supes has a weakness to magic which levels the playing field for them.

superman can travel faster then light son, he can dodge lightning fucking easy, supermans brain can work incredibly fast, hercules is nothing to him, everlasting stamina? his powersource is the sun, it will last for a couple of billion years, instant speed already covered, he could pluck captain marvel apart atom from atom before he could react

Yes superman moves at the speed of light but he does not move at the speed of the gods. And what if Captain Marvel decides he doesn't want the sun in the battlefield anymore? His bolts could easily destroy whole planets, why not chip away at the sun?

What comic is that from?

cause the sun is explosions upon explosions cant really blow up explosions, second, superman holds back dude, hes on earth, he doesnt wanna break the planet, besides when hes blowing bolts at the sun, if he chose to, superman would be blowing him away, dc pretty much accepted that captain marvel was weaker then superman when they let superman pubstomp black adam in dc universe online

Dc universe online is a noncanon videogame. Superman can get his ass kicked by any random asshole in that game but does that mean it could actually happen in the comicverse? Shazam and Black adam hold back aswell but strength isn't the only determining factor in a fight. Suns die and but so long as atlas is holding the mortal plane in existence than shazam will still be coming at supes like a train. It's proven that shazam trumps superman in speed. The fact that superman beats hercules means nothing. The source of the strength is magical meaning any punch capt marvel throws is gonna do damage especially if it's laced in the lightning of zeus. Shazam trumps superman in speed endurance and power. Superman trumps shazam only in strength. Wisdom is debatable in this battle. I think in 6 fights outta 10, Shazam would take it.

you underestimate supermans power, and just cause the strength is magical doesnt mean the damage from the strength is, the lightning is the only thing that might be able to hurt superman, and he instantly regenerates in sunlight

When has superman instantly regenerated in sunlight? He usually is sitting in it for a couple of hours before he's ready for another fight idiot. Your just making stuff up as you go aren't you?

btw, outrunning the flash is just retarded, he can run so fast he can go back in time

whenever hes shot or anything like it he instantly regenerates after they take out the bullet, his power comes directly from the sun

What you said makes no sense at all. Superman has never been shot. He's the man of steel. Bullets don't penetrate him. Your ignorance on superman's powers is so profound that now you have ME defending his abilities. Yes his powers come from the sun, I think we've established that before.

>implying hes never been shot
>implying his worst enemy doesnt like to experiment with kryptonite

>Implying Superman still regenerates in an instant
Still haven't proven when he has

every time ive seen him shot he regenerates the second they take out the bullet

Here's proof that superman and shazam are on the same level strength wise. Superman wouldn't need to hold back since there is no such thing as a lethal arm wrestling match.

If he has been shot as you say than how would he dodge a bolt of lightning?

cause hes retarded and didnt dodge the bullet

Superman has never been shot in any comic ever. Bullets bounce off him. He isn't wolverine.

cant you read? KRYPTONITE BULLETS

anti monitors,endless,lucifer,death,spectre,captain atom without his limiters(considering this is not superman prime one million)


i was also going to berate you for disincluding doomsday but then i noticed the "another kryptonian" part ^^

without his limiters captain atom has been able to destroy the entire universe and recreate it at his will

he was also so physically durable that superman prime could only dent his suit when he gave captain atom a pummeling(and he was only able to dent it because captain atom tried to harm himself first)

and i must confess i made a mistake with death.death is part of the endless so its useless to add him there..and the endless are pretty much "gods"


but the truth is superman isnt actually even strong in dc sense.there is loads of superheroes and characters who could destroy supes in a fight.those were just the most mainstream ones that i could come up with