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******* fire emblem characters
******* pokemon
the **** is shuns:
mark pit
emu, aloud, bayonetta
also are currently living in the timeline where all this **** happened
somewhere in an alternate universe Banjo and Kazooie are first party and have been in smash since melee
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SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CROSS A WITCH?
NOW BEAR AND BIRD ARE ' S BITCH
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#20 - adu ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
>Play Smash 4
>"Who is this Shulk guy? Xenoblade Chronicles?"
>Love the Monado Art mechanic, quickly start maining Shulk
>Do some research
>Buy/Play Xenoblade Chronicles
>One of the best games I've ever played.
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#133 to #20 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
>liking Xenoblade chronicles

You have the worst taste of all time.
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#137 to #133 - gnumag (12/23/2015) [-]
From the game's wikipedia page (it's a bit long, so I hid it in spoiler tags): Since its release, Xenoblade Chronicles has earned unanimous critical acclaim from multiple outlets, earning perfect scores from Digital Spy, Joystiq, GamePro and RPGamer,[80][89][93][95] and near-perfect scores from most other video gaming websites and magazines.[75][76][77][78][81][83][85][86][92][97] The game scored 92/100 on the aggregate site Metacritic based on 59 critic reviews.[73] The game had the fourth highest ranking on Metacritic for all video games released in 2012, tying with Thatgamecompany's Journey.[98]

Seems like they're not the only one who enjoyed it. I guess people just have different tastes.
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User avatar #80 to #20 - PVTDickStryker ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Xenosaga is better than Xenoblade
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User avatar #87 to #80 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean, it very well could be. I've never played them. Do you know where I could find them?
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#33 to #20 - kungfujesusx ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Helllllll yeah, have you tried the sequel yet?
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User avatar #84 to #33 - drainbamage (12/23/2015) [-]
Xenoblade x is amazing, I clocked 70 hours in the first week.
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#92 to #84 - kungfujesusx ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Absolutely! though I wish you could mute the music in the cutscenes :/ also wish they're was more pizazz in their voices. I miss metal face shouting MONADO BOIIIIIII
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User avatar #93 to #92 - drainbamage (12/23/2015) [-]
Yeah, I wish they paid a little more attention to the cut scene music. Just a tad too loud, but thank god for subtitles.
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User avatar #37 to #33 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Not yet, I plan on getting it soon.
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User avatar #40 to #20 - pikminpoo (12/23/2015) [-]
I completely ignored 70% of the side quest to finish the bomb ass story
Got to the fight with Lorithia and realized the game was now unplayable without grinding the mobs and just quit
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#134 to #40 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Yea, the "bomb ass" story.

It wasn't super generic and one of the most generic anime stories ever. It's good to see you have nice taste. /s
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User avatar #43 to #40 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Lorithia is a pain in the ass if you're underleveled and don't know how to fight her.
Tip 1: When she summons elementals, each one boosts her physical defence. Kill all of them to make her vulnerable.
Tip 2: The enemies in Bionis Interior should be very ripe with XP for you, so grinding should be quick.

My first playthrough I did about half of the quests, did minimal actual grinding, and ended the game on a challenging, yet not frustrating level. In my completion run (every side-quest complete) I was overleveled for just about everything by a factor of about 5-10 which made most of the storyline painfully easy.
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User avatar #44 to #43 - pikminpoo (12/23/2015) [-]
Im still pretty engaged in the story so I might give it another go.
Reason I suck so much is probably cause of my gems and party
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User avatar #63 to #44 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Skill, gear, and levels are all pretty important. If you lack in one, you can make up for it with the other two. Gems I feel are the most important gear, especially if you know how to craft them. So important that I ALWAYS use armor with slots, even if it means ignoring armor without slots even if they have vastly superior stats.
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#132 to #20 - vegasstoner (12/23/2015) [-]
so what you're saying it is that you're really feeling it?
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#46 to #20 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
>main shulk
You have my condolences for your Framedata

The friend I've been learning the game for a few months mains Shulk and I main Roy, his framedata is his big drawback from competitive play
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User avatar #66 to #46 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
His frame data is PRETTY bad, but it's not Samus levels of bad. Maining him though, you realize that his spacing makes up for it, since you can safely space most of his aeriels and out-range the melee attacks of just about every character. Other than that, playing Shulk is all about reads and covering options, since missing is generally a bad idea, at least compared to characters like Sheik and Mario who can do whatever they want.
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#69 to #66 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean Shulk isn't bad, he just doesn't hold up well at higher level play

though the fact his counter can kill my Roy at 60% when all I use is an uncharged fsmash is pretty good in shulk's favor

Vision is broken sometimes yo

This picture is dubbed Shulkle
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User avatar #114 to #69 - warioteam (12/23/2015) [-]
>implying tiers mean ****
>implying someone using the top 5 highest tiered characters will fare well against someone with actual experience
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User avatar #125 to #114 - spinthatrecord (12/23/2015) [-]
doesn't mean someone with experience playing bottom tier will have a chance of beating someone with the same experience playing s tier
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User avatar #72 to #69 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
There's some **** you can pull off with Shulk at higher levels of skill such as Monado Cancelling, insane knockback-chases with Monado Jump, dunks and the like.
But you have to plan it, and appropriately for Shulk, you really have to see what's coming next in order to play him at maximum capacity. He can't react as well as many of the high-tiers, but he's definitely not bad, especially since the Monado Arts let him do whatever the **** he wants.
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#77 to #72 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean most consider him just below Roy/Cloud in Swordsmen tiers with the general order of Meta Knight, Ike, Roy, Cloud (Debated on Roy over Cloud or vice versa) and then Shulk above the other FE swordsmen and Link

his real fault is that his High level techniques are so technical when you get so much more results from other characters with that same level of effort

he is definitely a fun and viable character, just the slightly lower due to some serious faults in his framedata and technical skill need

Also I think it is a requirement for every decent smash player to have a Captain Falcon so you can do Falcon Dittos when needed

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User avatar #85 to #77 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I've played Captain Falcon since Smash Bros. 64. I've never stopped using him, and he was my main until Smash 4 when they made his moves feel a lot laggier. I skipped Brawl and went from Melee to Sm4sh, if that means anything.
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User avatar #89 to #85 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Smash 4 Falcon would seem laggy to Melee but to be honest most things from Melee seems laggy in smash 4

I would recommend playing him though, watch some Fatality, ZeRo and MVG Ryo plays of him and he could very easily interest you

He is also still very much hype in ditto matches as always
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User avatar #94 to #89 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Oh of course, Captain is always hype, and I've seen Zero play him several times. He's still fun as **** to play, but I still prefer Shulk for his uniqueness and how fresh he feels compared to most of the roster.
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#106 to #94 - bubbafun (12/23/2015) [-]
I main Ganondorf
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User avatar #151 to #77 - thefirespike (12/23/2015) [-]
call me a noob or a casul or whatever... but what is framedata? i always just played these games and never really worried about any of the technical stuff. I'm a little curious now tohugh.
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#152 to #151 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
A frame is 1/60th of a second in smash 4 whcih runs at 60 FPS

Each move a certain start up, active, and recovery amount of frames

start up is the frame of a move coming out, active is how long the hit box of the move is active and hitting things, and recovery is how long the player must wait until they are ready to use a move again

Also there is hitstun which is how long an opponent is stunned by your attack

So Shulk has too many start up frames on some moves and too many recovery frames on others with a good amount of active frames
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#70 to #66 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Also tfw people actually want Brawl more than Shulk
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User avatar #73 to #70 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I don't know who that is.
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User avatar #76 to #73 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Clg NAKAT

Ice Climber's Brawl player, High level Ness Smash 4 player

Pretty respected and makes decent content

This poll just happened recently and I found it kinda funny how people wanted Brawl over Shulk when Brawl is literally considered the worst Smash game so I took the picture and sent it to my shulk friend and decided it would fit here too
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#129 to #46 - kingxcvii (12/23/2015) [-]
He got a buff last patch. Some moves do more damage and his Ariel's got better frame data. So you can basically Nair or f-air people off the stage in speed mode now with ease
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User avatar #49 to #46 - killerliquid (12/23/2015) [-]
Roy has no autocancels either
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User avatar #51 to #49 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Uh, Nair autocancels I believe? or else it wouldn't be his best approach in neutral with SH FF Nairs across the stage

Upair also auto cancels when you hit the ground in a certain frame window I believe, a hard but very useful trick

and I think Shulk's real frame problem is the startup on his fair is very readable and if he misses a smash or a counter then he is super punishable with even a raw up b off of stage from Roy (Kills at around 110 for midweights like Mario so like 120 on shulk with some rage)
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#1 - solarisofcelestia (12/22/2015) [-]
Well who knows. Maybe Microsoft will release their own fighting game featuring characters from their own company's roster. I doubt it, but a man can dream.
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#2 to #1 - itskennyandjosh (12/22/2015) [-]
**itskennyandjosh used "*roll picture*"**
**itskennyandjosh rolled image**I bet i know how it'd go
>Microsoft fighting game hell yeah!
>All the favorite characters from master cheif, claassic rare banjo and kazooie and many more!
>They show it at E3 it looks amazing
>Hype at 100%
>Day of release
>People hyped to get it
>They pay $60 for it
>Turn it on
>"Please pay $9.99 per month to play splitscreen or with other people"
>"Classic banjo skin $20 a month for use"
>Master cheif's weapons will cost another $10 per month
>Every other character is DLC
>Every weapon and attack is DLC
>Maps are DLC except the "blank_test.map"
>You can pay $30 to beat the game and any player online
>They eventually release multiplayer for free after people don't use it
>Full of squeakers who pay to win
>People still play it because people suck and squeakers will play anything
>Microsoft makes 5 more of these
>Just the same game with different maps
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User avatar #12 to #2 - lathyrusvii (12/22/2015) [-]
Squeakers? Heh. So... what is that? I mean, I have an idea, but...
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User avatar #19 to #12 - adu ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
It's a common insult that 13 year old's use to mock 12 year olds for lacking a deep voice.

Normal people just call them children.
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#13 to #12 - itskennyandjosh (12/22/2015) [-]
**itskennyandjosh used "*roll picture*"**
**itskennyandjosh rolled image**Basically 10 year old gamers who's parents don't care enough about them to make them stop yelling
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User avatar #15 to #13 - lathyrusvii (12/22/2015) [-]
Close enough. Thumb for you.
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User avatar #17 to #15 - itskennyandjosh (12/22/2015) [-]
What were you thinking?
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User avatar #22 to #17 - lathyrusvii (12/22/2015) [-]
I meant your roll, actually, but you description was pretty much spot on.

Clarification isn't my strong suit when I'm drinking, so... I'd apologize, but who takes this site seriously?

Anyway, your description was more or less what I was thinking, so, there you are.
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#27 to #1 - hatapon (12/22/2015) [-]
See: Companies that make good games, but are inexperienced in fighting games.
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User avatar #101 to #27 - OperativeOpposite (12/23/2015) [-]
Allstars had so much potential, just too many valuable characters missing, and the terribly nerfing patches. I still loved that game though, but to be honest, microsoft doesn't have enough original ips for an entire fighter unless they pull out people nobody really know about imo.
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#36 to #27 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
"companies that make good games but not really"
?
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User avatar #45 to #1 - WitchKingTroll (12/23/2015) [-]
The Microsoft All-Star lineup, featuring Master Chief...
And...
...
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#142 to #45 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
You could easily get 2 characters from Halo, 2 from Gears of War, 1 from Sunset Overdrive, Lara Croft, Alan Wake, some faggot from Just Dance, Steve from minecraft, Hero from Fable, Banjo, 2 from Lost Odyssey, 2 from Viva Pinata, and others. If Sony can do it, so can Microsoft. I am sure there are arcade exclusives they could pull out of the woodwork as well.
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#42 to #1 - jamesten (12/23/2015) [-]
Click to show spoiler
but you know what happens then?
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User avatar #75 to #42 - buddywuggle (12/23/2015) [-]
That would be interesting what they would do with Steve in a fighting game, since his punches are ranged and map manipulation could be interesting. Could be fun if they could figure out how to make them not OP.
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#38 - chimayor (12/23/2015) [-]
Why isn't it a trend to rhyme like her?
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#48 to #38 - thecancerthatkills [OP]ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
>Making Gruntilda sexy
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User avatar #53 to #48 - bagofshenanigans (12/23/2015) [-]
No idea what you're talking about. It's canon.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnA_6I4y0_0
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User avatar #81 to #48 - wertologist (12/23/2015) [-]
Do you not remember the game over scenes that played every time you quit the game?
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User avatar #107 to #48 - serlucane (12/23/2015) [-]
to be fair, wasn't that the whole plot of the villain for the first game?
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User avatar #82 to #48 - chimayor (12/23/2015) [-]
Tsk tsk
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User avatar #5 - muffinofrage (12/22/2015) [-]
I like fire emblem and all, but why do they have to bring out all the boring sword lords? There are plenty of other main characters and villains like Hector, Micaiah, or Lyon that don't use swords and there are also countless side characters with dozens of classes including people that can turn into ******* dragons.
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#30 to #5 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Ephraim would have been amazing.
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User avatar #98 to #5 - sketchE (12/23/2015) [-]
i wanted nephenee
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User avatar #145 to #5 - namdelliks (12/23/2015) [-]
I've been saying hector would be cool Because I believe peoples main issue with sword characters is: They just swing their sword around. Where as if you had someone like hector it's: He just swings his axe around
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#16 to #5 - dakirbinator (12/22/2015) [-]
I think the worst offense is Marth #1, 2 and 3.
Lucina was just given Marth's moveset with minor differences and removed the tip hitbox.
Roy is just the Falcoclone of Marth, except that he's worse in every respect.
Nintendo loves them the hell out of clone characters or minimal work characters. They all just as easily could have been alt. costumes, not that it would have given us more characters (it was already addressed by Nintendo that there wouldnt be more characters if the clones didnt exist, there'd just be more costumes on fewer characters)
But dammit, I still like playing Smash. Except I play ProjectM instead because I can't afford dlc characters (just another in a long list of bad ideas for Nintendo)
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#54 to #16 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
if you play pm you should know that removing the tip hitbox changes almost the whole gameplay of marth

less so for smash4, but the point still stands.
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#32 to #16 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
>except that he's worse in every respect
****** what. Roy has much better overall frame data
kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Roy
kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Marth
I agree though, clones ******* suck
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User avatar #8 to #5 - lucariopwnz (12/22/2015) [-]
To be fair Corrin is another dlc character coming who apparently turns into a dragon or some **** but I agree a hundred percent. They had so much potential. Why not add a staff character, or a whip character or hell, even a mace. Something different we hadn't seen before instead of rehashes of other characters
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User avatar #102 - superanonymouspers (12/23/2015) [-]
Just going to say this, complaining about a clone character and how they "stole" spots for other characters is ridiculous. Clone characters are not started from scratch. They are literally the same as their base character but with minor changes.
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#79 - nerdking (12/23/2015) [-]
Who the **** is shulk anyway? As far as I'm aware, he's just an asshole with a counter so ******** that it can counter Jigglypuff's Sing.
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#109 to #79 - pentol ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
xenoblade rep.
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User avatar #117 to #79 - kurbeh (12/23/2015) [-]
Go buy Xenoblade Chronicles X right now.
And then you will regret not knowing about this franchise, best game 2015.
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User avatar #120 to #79 - Tyranitar (12/23/2015) [-]
He's from Nintendo's answer to Final Fantasy that a lot of weeaboos got obsessed over here in the states, forcing them to release it like a week before the Wii was finished anyway.
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User avatar #110 to #79 - redeadhunter (12/23/2015) [-]
He's from a Wii JRPG called Xenoblade Chronicles. He's the main protagonist and wields a sword that is literally God which he uses to kill robots for killing his love interest (who becomes robo-goddess), and eventually loses the God sword to God, so he gets help from a God-ier God to defeat the lesser God with his new God God sword and become God so that he can create a world without Gods. it was my 2012 game of the year.
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User avatar #126 to #110 - Haentar (12/23/2015) [-]
Actually spoilers in the eye ^ ..
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#144 to #110 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
No, it is a pretty ****** lazily mad game. Dont give it more credit than it deserves.
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User avatar #86 to #79 - drainbamage (12/23/2015) [-]
He's just a guy who's really feeling it
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User avatar #23 - nsfwlurkmore (12/22/2015) [-]
Why are people complaining about the amount of Fire Emblem characters?
They're 6 out of what - 52?
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User avatar #24 to #23 - gittons (12/22/2015) [-]
so...what, if smash had 45 FE characters then it would be an issue?
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User avatar #25 to #24 - nsfwlurkmore (12/22/2015) [-]
The point is that 6 characters isn't a lot.
Mario has 9 characters in Sm4sh and I see no one complaining about that.
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User avatar #26 to #25 - gittons (12/22/2015) [-]
maybe because mario is the face of nintendo and is one of the biggest and oldest characters
out there.
people just wanted a new character than another god damn sword using FE character.
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User avatar #28 to #26 - nsfwlurkmore (12/23/2015) [-]
Honestly, yeah, it gets a bit dull. But it's not worth getting all salty over.
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User avatar #127 to #23 - Haentar (12/23/2015) [-]
But they're all very similar in class-It's like if the pokemon they put in this game were all the same one, but with different IV training for different stats. Fire emblem is a fantasy military strategy game, there's more than just swordspeople in it.
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#31 to #23 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Especially since Fire Emblem is an older and longer-running series than Pokemon.
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#18 - TRINDADE (12/22/2015) [-]
You know damn well Ryu is in every crossover fighting game, it's a miracle it took this long

It's your fault for being such a casul if you don't know Shulk

Bayonetta is a huge exclusive, and pokemon characters are really diverse (and where 1/4 of the rooster on the 64)

There's no way to excuse Fire emblem
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User avatar #115 to #18 - kurbeh (12/23/2015) [-]
There are more Fire Emblem games than there is Legend of Zelda if I am correct.
It's a massive flagship for Nintendo of Japan.
Lucina was just advanced one level from a costume to a charatcer and Roy was based on fanrequests.
So technically we only got 4 Fire Emblem characters that were planed, and it ended up with 6 instead.

Seems pretty excuseable if you ask me.
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#47 to #18 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
"there are too many anime swordsmen"

>each FE clone character (Marth, Lucina, Roy) has a different playstyle if you actually know how to use their combos and strings and the only competitively viable character of those three is Roy in Smash 4
>Ike is completely different
>Robin is trash but is an interesting character
>Corrin is going to completely change the meta in some parts due to their unique set

come on mang, at least complain about the right things like Shiek, Rosaluma, and Zero suit literally giving their opponent cancer when fought because of their ********
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#97 to #47 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
1. Marth and Lucinas playstyles differ due to their spacing, not their combos and strings, their move sets are literally the same, the only thing differentiating them is the fact Marth is stronger at the tip where lucinas attacks are balanced throughout.
2. Marth is completely competitive viable - check out Mr. E. Lucina probably is too but just doesn't have any good representation yet.
3. Robin is better than every character you mentioned except for Ike.
4. Opinions

Not disagreeing with you, just saying if your gonna call someone out call them out correctly
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#103 to #97 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Well I meant that Marth and Lucina's combos are different because one has sourspots for differing knockbacks and one has no sour or sweetspot

and Marth is not very viable as according to my friend who tried him but decided he had little approach options

Boy you can say all you want about Robin but her being better than Roy is ******** and you know it with Roy's speed, killing power, ability to rack up damage, and amount of options and mix ups (He can confirm kills with a single fsmash at any reasonable percent, even more so with rage not mention how great his Flare blade is at edge guarding considering that a single correct timing read on ledge get up can basically confirm a kill because of how strong that knockback with just a little charge- I could go on but I'll spare you that rant)

If Robin was at all high tier, which Roy and Ike are considered, I'm sure that Nairo would use him/her more often considering how much he loves the character but even he recognizes he/she falls off at higher level play

I get these are opinions but most tier list place them in that general order with Robin being lower than most from what I've seen

btw if you want to see some somewhat high level Roy I would suggest Oni Herro (formally Staticmanny), MVG Ryo, and of course Sethlon though all their Roy's are not extremely developed as the first two only secondary him and Sethlon only recently began taking Smash 4 seriously with Roy
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#105 to #103 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Okay, i understand what you mean now but i just have a problem with people saying "viable" when they really mean "optimal".

Viable Competitive Characters -
Just about any character that isn't literally garbage (Zelda, Jigglypuff, mii gunner)

OPTIMAL Competitive Characters -
Sheik, ZSS, RosaLuma, Pikachu, Mario etc. etc.

Marth/Lucina/Roy are all very VIABLE characters if you practice the game enough but definitely do have their problems and ****** matchups, such as ****** approach options like you mentioned.

As far as the whole Robin > Roy/Roy > Robin thing, its literally personal opinion. I've seen robin do much better than Roy has both locally, regionally and nationally, but when you start to talk tier lists in mid tiers its a real gray area. Thats why most top players don't even make full tier lists they just say top 10, top 20s and bottom 10s. Its much easier to break down characters that are better and worse than the rest of the cast. Robin just has much more strenghts in neutral than roy does and doesn't have to work to kill %. Sure he can kill at about 60% but Robin has to work a lot less to kill at 80% than roy does.

I see your Roy players and raise you an Acid -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PjK595RC8

Still too lazy to log in
-GH
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User avatar #58 to #47 - fuckingtrolls (12/23/2015) [-]
Srs tho **** ZSS
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#60 to #58 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Shiek gives me cancer

With Roy's framedata, Sheik can miss her dash grab and still counter Roy's frame 5 jab with her frame 3-4 jab

It's ********
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User avatar #61 to #60 - fuckingtrolls (12/23/2015) [-]
sheik is nothing for kirby tho. zss up-b combo is the most broken **** in the game since pre-patch diddy's up air
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#62 to #61 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I guess Kirby would be an exception for Shiek's ******* Fair Planning and ZSS is indeed cancer

what makes me sad is that Bayonette is probs going to be the SS of this game considering she has true combos in all her tilts and jabs and gets two up b's one of which is already better than Little Mac's

At least there isn't Brawl Meta Knight, so that's good
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User avatar #55 to #47 - TRINDADE (12/23/2015) [-]
of course slight changes matter in the meta, but it's boring everywhere else

understand that any character slot FE takes is a character slot that could be used for way more lovable characters ( and with complete new movesets)

try to explain to the guy who always picks random why it's ok his chances of getting another animu swordsman are that big

also I fail to see the point in that chart
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#59 to #55 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
The changes aren't that slight, Ike has throw set ups for kills, roy has aerial strings and ledge snap unlike Marth and Lucina, Robin has projectile plays, Corrin has a paralyzing projectile, a vertical knockback AOE counter and a side b that pins

each one of those playstyles are different and unique complete with different fall speeds run speeds, and weights

Corrin isn't even released and people know he will change the doubles and singles meta a lot

I'm talking of actually playing the game and not just complaining there are too many of one game series in Smash, I mean lovable charaters are fine but so are actual viable and fun characters. Which each FE character is besides Marth/Lucina because both kinda low tier and not liked very much in smash 4. And Robin in For Glory because **** Robin in For Glory

I get that people want lovable characters but I also want competitve characters.
If they had released another Marth clone I would be mad but Corrin is not a Marth Clone, neither is Ike and Roy barely is one in playstyle at this point

Also the chart is to counter people saying there are "too many sword characters" when well over half the roster doesn't use swords

The chart isn't even that accurate considering it says Charizard, Lucario, Fox, and Falco don't fight with Punches/ kicks and that Pit and Dark Pit don't fight with basically swords

Big chance of getting an anime swordsmen? There are 7 "anime" swordsmen I can count here (Cloud, Roy, Marth, Shulk, Lucina, Ike, and Robin)
With the current 56 released characters, that is 7/56

12.5% to play an anime swordsmen makes you upset?

does that really upset you and so many others that every smash post for the next month has to have the same "too many anime swordsmen" arguement?

besides, let's be honest here
Banjo would have just been a ****** duckhunt clone
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User avatar #71 to #59 - TRINDADE (12/23/2015) [-]
yes, 1/8 is too much if you are going to spend an afternoon picking random. It takes very little rng ******** to ruin your fun
did you ever play a banjo game? There's no shortage of moves. I can't imagine his moveset with anything close to duckhunt's

maybe the problem is with the kind of people that picks them, but they are always predictable and boring to be against.
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#74 to #71 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I'm sorry but if you really dislike some character's, some of which have been in previous games

why the **** would you play random constantly? Pick a main or something

Also judge a character by people who understand the character not people on for glory

MVG_Ryo makes Ike stomp people like a truck and has been since Brawl and makes Roy literally float like a butterfly and sting like a bee and has been doing so recently

I can only see you getting these impressions of the characters from For Glory considering how they play in offline tourny

Also there is no concrete way to tell but a little dog like creature with a bird companion would definitely be enough of an excuse for Sakurai to bring some of Duckhunt's movepool into other character

Not a complete clone but similar to how Mii Brawler has ryu's down throw and half the fist fighting case has mario's up air

All in all, play the game or not

in the end I'm gonna play my animu swordsmen Roy and likely Corrin anyways and to me that is what really matters. Find enjoyment in what you want man
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User avatar #64 to #59 - selfdestructo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I doubt if banjo did get released in smash he would be a duckhunt clone. Just because its another duo team dosnt automatically make it a clone.
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#67 to #64 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Duo team of a dog like creature and bird, I mean not a complete clone but there would be some crossover, Sakurai is pretty lazy sometimes

Not saying I'd hate it but I am not displeased with the Character's annouced either, which why I don't get the complaints about Corrin and Bayonette when they are both pretty unique
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User avatar #68 to #67 - selfdestructo ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Tru
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#124 - Tyranitar (12/23/2015) [-]
I wouldn't mind another Fire Emblem character if it wasn't just another girly-faced nancy boy with a sword.

You know who we need? This ************* wall of steel right here. None of that silly swords-dance **** when you can impale all 7 other players on a spear and pull them back to you.
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#136 to #124 - drewjitsu (12/23/2015) [-]
or this guy
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#100 - talked ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Oh, btw, in case any of you didn't know, all the old RARE people are making bootleg Banjo Threeie

www.playtonicgames.com/games/yooka-laylee/
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User avatar #4 - peezle (12/22/2015) [-]
How bout a proper Banjo Threeie?
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User avatar #162 to #99 - peezle (12/23/2015) [-]
I said Banjo Threeie not Yooka Laylee.
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#163 to #162 - talked ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-]
It is basically banjo threeie. Its made by the same people and is going to be as banjo as possible without infringing copyright.
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#34 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
>people actually wanting Banjo in the game
hes such a bad character
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User avatar #35 to #34 - numbertwozeldafan ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
>anon
>opinion
1/10 made me respond
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User avatar #57 - brobafett (12/23/2015) [-]
Ventrilo Harassment - Grunty
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#39 - ugoboom ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
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User avatar #91 - meunlu (12/23/2015) [-]
am i the only one who doesn't give a rats ass about fire emblem at all? kinda sick of random blank slate characters and their genderbent counterparts getting precedence over some other more unique characters getting into the game
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User avatar #138 to #91 - sexyhimself ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I'm a fan of Fire Emblem and I agree, I would rather see some other character get a chance rather than Corrin.


And I'm salty cause Fire Emblem Fates have been out in Japsamatan for months now and won't be out else where in months.
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#128 - mcburd (12/23/2015) [-]
I like Lucina tho
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#160 to #143 - mcburd (12/23/2015) [-]
Comment Picture
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#112 - bollo (12/23/2015) [-]
I love bojonjo and kazoonie I would get smash if it had em
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#111 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Dr Mario, lucina and pittoo are extra bonus characters. They were intended to be skins buy sakurai thought that it would be cool to have them as their own characters. I'm not mad about their inclusion, of course I would rather have more different movesets on lucina and pittoo, but since it's like extra credit I'm not mad either. The only character I don't really agree with is corrin, too much fire emblem representation IMO, but as for shulk I like that
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#104 - asasqw (12/23/2015) [-]
GIF
Ryu's costumes should of been Ken, Akuma, Dan, and so on, ala bowser Jr.
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User avatar #119 to #104 - Tyranitar (12/23/2015) [-]
He has a Dan color scheme, but I'm upset that they didn't give him Ken or Akuma/Evil Ryu colors.
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#21 - anon (12/22/2015) [-]
******* Microsoft was ok with Rare characters in smash, but weebs don't like that ****
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