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#20 - adu ONLINE (12/22/2015) [-]
>Play Smash 4
>"Who is this Shulk guy? Xenoblade Chronicles?"
>Love the Monado Art mechanic, quickly start maining Shulk
>Do some research
>Buy/Play Xenoblade Chronicles
>One of the best games I've ever played.
#133 to #20 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
>liking Xenoblade chronicles

You have the worst taste of all time.
#137 to #133 - gnumag (12/23/2015) [-]
From the game's wikipedia page (it's a bit long, so I hid it in spoiler tags): Since its release, Xenoblade Chronicles has earned unanimous critical acclaim from multiple outlets, earning perfect scores from Digital Spy, Joystiq, GamePro and RPGamer,[80][89][93][95] and near-perfect scores from most other video gaming websites and magazines.[75][76][77][78][81][83][85][86][92][97] The game scored 92/100 on the aggregate site Metacritic based on 59 critic reviews.[73] The game had the fourth highest ranking on Metacritic for all video games released in 2012, tying with Thatgamecompany's Journey.[98]

Seems like they're not the only one who enjoyed it. I guess people just have different tastes.
#132 to #20 - vegasstoner (12/23/2015) [-]
so what you're saying it is that you're really feeling it?
User avatar #80 to #20 - PVTDickStryker ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Xenosaga is better than Xenoblade
User avatar #87 to #80 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean, it very well could be. I've never played them. Do you know where I could find them?
#46 to #20 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
>main shulk
You have my condolences for your Framedata

The friend I've been learning the game for a few months mains Shulk and I main Roy, his framedata is his big drawback from competitive play
#129 to #46 - kingxcvii (12/23/2015) [-]
He got a buff last patch. Some moves do more damage and his Ariel's got better frame data. So you can basically Nair or f-air people off the stage in speed mode now with ease
User avatar #66 to #46 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
His frame data is PRETTY bad, but it's not Samus levels of bad. Maining him though, you realize that his spacing makes up for it, since you can safely space most of his aeriels and out-range the melee attacks of just about every character. Other than that, playing Shulk is all about reads and covering options, since missing is generally a bad idea, at least compared to characters like Sheik and Mario who can do whatever they want.
#70 to #66 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Also tfw people actually want Brawl more than Shulk
User avatar #73 to #70 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I don't know who that is.
User avatar #76 to #73 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Clg NAKAT

Ice Climber's Brawl player, High level Ness Smash 4 player

Pretty respected and makes decent content

This poll just happened recently and I found it kinda funny how people wanted Brawl over Shulk when Brawl is literally considered the worst Smash game so I took the picture and sent it to my shulk friend and decided it would fit here too
#69 to #66 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean Shulk isn't bad, he just doesn't hold up well at higher level play

though the fact his counter can kill my Roy at 60% when all I use is an uncharged fsmash is pretty good in shulk's favor

Vision is broken sometimes yo

This picture is dubbed Shulkle
User avatar #114 to #69 - warioteam (12/23/2015) [-]
>implying tiers mean ****
>implying someone using the top 5 highest tiered characters will fare well against someone with actual experience
User avatar #125 to #114 - spinthatrecord (12/23/2015) [-]
doesn't mean someone with experience playing bottom tier will have a chance of beating someone with the same experience playing s tier
User avatar #72 to #69 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
There's some **** you can pull off with Shulk at higher levels of skill such as Monado Cancelling, insane knockback-chases with Monado Jump, dunks and the like.
But you have to plan it, and appropriately for Shulk, you really have to see what's coming next in order to play him at maximum capacity. He can't react as well as many of the high-tiers, but he's definitely not bad, especially since the Monado Arts let him do whatever the **** he wants.
#77 to #72 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
I mean most consider him just below Roy/Cloud in Swordsmen tiers with the general order of Meta Knight, Ike, Roy, Cloud (Debated on Roy over Cloud or vice versa) and then Shulk above the other FE swordsmen and Link

his real fault is that his High level techniques are so technical when you get so much more results from other characters with that same level of effort

he is definitely a fun and viable character, just the slightly lower due to some serious faults in his framedata and technical skill need

Also I think it is a requirement for every decent smash player to have a Captain Falcon so you can do Falcon Dittos when needed

User avatar #151 to #77 - thefirespike (12/23/2015) [-]
call me a noob or a casul or whatever... but what is framedata? i always just played these games and never really worried about any of the technical stuff. I'm a little curious now tohugh.
#152 to #151 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
A frame is 1/60th of a second in smash 4 whcih runs at 60 FPS

Each move a certain start up, active, and recovery amount of frames

start up is the frame of a move coming out, active is how long the hit box of the move is active and hitting things, and recovery is how long the player must wait until they are ready to use a move again

Also there is hitstun which is how long an opponent is stunned by your attack

So Shulk has too many start up frames on some moves and too many recovery frames on others with a good amount of active frames
User avatar #85 to #77 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
I've played Captain Falcon since Smash Bros. 64. I've never stopped using him, and he was my main until Smash 4 when they made his moves feel a lot laggier. I skipped Brawl and went from Melee to Sm4sh, if that means anything.
User avatar #89 to #85 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Smash 4 Falcon would seem laggy to Melee but to be honest most things from Melee seems laggy in smash 4

I would recommend playing him though, watch some Fatality, ZeRo and MVG Ryo plays of him and he could very easily interest you

He is also still very much hype in ditto matches as always
User avatar #94 to #89 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Oh of course, Captain is always hype, and I've seen Zero play him several times. He's still fun as **** to play, but I still prefer Shulk for his uniqueness and how fresh he feels compared to most of the roster.
#106 to #94 - bubbafun (12/23/2015) [-]
I main Ganondorf
User avatar #49 to #46 - killerliquid (12/23/2015) [-]
Roy has no autocancels either
User avatar #51 to #49 - stadic (12/23/2015) [-]
Uh, Nair autocancels I believe? or else it wouldn't be his best approach in neutral with SH FF Nairs across the stage

Upair also auto cancels when you hit the ground in a certain frame window I believe, a hard but very useful trick

and I think Shulk's real frame problem is the startup on his fair is very readable and if he misses a smash or a counter then he is super punishable with even a raw up b off of stage from Roy (Kills at around 110 for midweights like Mario so like 120 on shulk with some rage)
User avatar #40 to #20 - pikminpoo (12/23/2015) [-]
I completely ignored 70% of the side quest to finish the bomb ass story
Got to the fight with Lorithia and realized the game was now unplayable without grinding the mobs and just quit
#134 to #40 - anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Yea, the "bomb ass" story.

It wasn't super generic and one of the most generic anime stories ever. It's good to see you have nice taste. /s
User avatar #43 to #40 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Lorithia is a pain in the ass if you're underleveled and don't know how to fight her.
Tip 1: When she summons elementals, each one boosts her physical defence. Kill all of them to make her vulnerable.
Tip 2: The enemies in Bionis Interior should be very ripe with XP for you, so grinding should be quick.


My first playthrough I did about half of the quests, did minimal actual grinding, and ended the game on a challenging, yet not frustrating level. In my completion run (every side-quest complete) I was overleveled for just about everything by a factor of about 5-10 which made most of the storyline painfully easy.
User avatar #44 to #43 - pikminpoo (12/23/2015) [-]
Im still pretty engaged in the story so I might give it another go.
Reason I suck so much is probably cause of my gems and party
User avatar #63 to #44 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Skill, gear, and levels are all pretty important. If you lack in one, you can make up for it with the other two. Gems I feel are the most important gear, especially if you know how to craft them. So important that I ALWAYS use armor with slots, even if it means ignoring armor without slots even if they have vastly superior stats.
#33 to #20 - kungfujesusx ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Helllllll yeah, have you tried the sequel yet?
User avatar #84 to #33 - drainbamage (12/23/2015) [-]
Xenoblade x is amazing, I clocked 70 hours in the first week.
#92 to #84 - kungfujesusx ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Absolutely! though I wish you could mute the music in the cutscenes :/ also wish they're was more pizazz in their voices. I miss metal face shouting MONADO BOIIIIIII
User avatar #93 to #92 - drainbamage (12/23/2015) [-]
Yeah, I wish they paid a little more attention to the cut scene music. Just a tad too loud, but thank god for subtitles.
User avatar #37 to #33 - adu ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
Not yet, I plan on getting it soon.
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