[it ain't me playing in the distance]

The name of the song is "Fortunate Son".

FGT.

it's a meme u dip

Oh god yes. I've been wanting a good Vietnam game for years.

I am so looking forward to that 60s/70s PTSD.

Ever played Vietcong? Great game

are you going to play it in 1080ptsd?

I'm honestly growing tired of everything Vietnam related in TV, movies, and games being PTSD focused. Obviously, it happened there, but it happened in every other conflict as well. That one was just unpopular with civilians, and PTSD was coming to the forefront of mental health. It was called shell shock in WW1, but the science wasn't fleshed out (hell, the British army executed some guys who had panic attacks for cowardice) and the trauma has sure as hell been around since humans started killing each other.

I think it's not only traumatic for the soldiers in Vietnam, but for the whole nation. That's why things in Vietnam focuses to that point, because it reflects how the US feels about Vietnam and sees it now. I believe that's where the whole "deconstruction of heroism" type of war films like Saving Privare Ryan started.

Meanwhile the good old USSR and Russia has had ******** conflicts like that pretty much ever since the Stalingrad so the movies about them showed how brutal war is right from the beginning. I'd say The 9th Company is a great film about Afghanistan.

The 9th company's decent, but there are certainly prominent inaccuracies, and scenes that just feel forced in my opinion. I know that the focus on PTSD in Vietnam is related to the popular view of the war, but my point is that it's largely inaccurate. It's the same reason why I can't think of a single realistic portrayal of the war in Vietnam; why everything about that war is focused on cliches and symbolism (i.e. Full Metal Jacket, Platoon, and Apocalypse Now)- because it's become an almost spiritual part of popular culture. Look at portrayals of any other American conflict, and you will find down-to-earth films about the lives of soldiers, whereas Vietnam can't be shown without some overarching story about internal conflict and mental strife.

Actually, most of Dean Hughes books are really good war books

The book Search and Destory was pretty decent. It didn't focus on how the war had mentally changed the character as much as it showed it open his eyes and change him physically.

Oh, **** . I actually read that in middle school. Haven't heard it mentioned in years.

I read soldier boys in fifth grade as a part of an advanced reading group (which awkwardly was only me and my crush)
Then I read search and destroy in 8th or 9th

Was Soldier Boys the WW2 one about the American and German kids?

Yea
The ending where Spencer layed in the snow, looking at the stars as he died. got me
I cried man

Oh, yeah. He went out to try to help the wounded German kid, right? I can't remember any names aside from Schaeffer, for some reason.

Dieter
Schafer was the old guy Dieter was with right?

Yup. He was the one Dieter was calling for when he was wounded; the one who refused to fire on the American troops because he had killed so many young men on the Eastern Front for a cause he no longer believed in. He was a very interesting character.

Yea
Which goes hand in hand with my favorite part of Hughes books.
Character development.
The war changed every character and it was always more than just ptsd.
The events in the book showed the war change the characters views on the world, their fellow man, and even themselves.

Look up the Vietcong tactics, torture methods, and traps, then see why a pretty good amount of soldiers had PTSD They didn't exactly give people quick deaths

Dude, I read both of the books about Carlos Hathcock. They included a woman who castrated captured Marines and left them to bleed to death, and a French deserter working for the Vietnamese who would rape them before slitting their throats. I've also read about shoving bamboo under fingernails, punji sticks, and intentional dislocation of limbs among other things. The thing is, horror exists in every conflict. Imagine the Somme, where the British army suffered over 60,000 casualties (including 20,000 dead) in one day. That was two men for every yard of front. That **** messes you up just as much.

I think, in a lot of ways, Vietnam is incredibly alien. I mean, it's soldiers from all over the world being sent to a jungle to fight people who aren't actually soldiers. They're fighting civilians with bombs strapped to them, people lighting themselves on fire in towns, as well as the Vietcong soldiers, who as far as my limited knowledge on the subject goes, were just able-bodied people who had picked up a weapon and knew their way around the jungle. So it's people going to unfamiliar places to fight unfamiliar foes.

On the other hand, the Somme was drastically different. On both sides you've got armies of soldiers, who each have training of some form. The armies are entrenched on either side of the field, firing back and forth, gaining little ground. As it stands from the aspect of games and movies, Vietnam makes for much more entertaining drama (as ****** up as it sounds), as the soldiers are navigating a dangerous jungle, with tunnel systems, helicopters, jeeps and all sorts, instead of being jammed in a damp trench firing back and forth.

Just realised how most of what I said is irrelevant. ******* hate it when I do that... -.-

Bruh we just replied to two seperate threads on two seperate content. Dunno why it warrants mention but I feel like it should.

I just didn't think it would be a surprise if a lot of literature and movies were focused on PTSD

It's not a surprise at all, and I'm not even complaining about the prevalence of post traumatic stress in the military-related genres, it's just the fact that Vietnam is singled out as "the PTSD war" for some reason.

>Reliable
>Tripwire
>Microtransactions in Killing Floor 2, an early access game.
They used to be.

I hope the devs don't do what they did with Killing Floor 2, and add the keys and crate system of TF2, CSGO, Dota 2, Payday 2 etc...