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#27 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Yeah, buy things that make violence seem cool so your kids will laugh as they read/watch horrific tragedies on the internet and encourage others to commit suicide. Get them lots of profane music and movies and games so they will have filthy vile language which will substitute for more accurate, decent and useful language. Encourage their irreverence because respect and humility are a drag. Fill your kids head simultaneously with the idea that we know everything and at the same time that we know nothing and that any kind of mistake or crime is 'ok' except going against whatever cultural fads and paradigms the tv sets forth. Applaud them when they rebel against you and make your life miserable, but then you are no more mature, so compete with them and end up in either outright hatred, an awkward tolerance or some kind of incestuous thing.

Supergood parenting man, you bet.
#304 to #27 - breathor (07/25/2013) [-]
So what you are saying is that you act out and emulate everything that is shown to you? ... Good luck with that. Even retarded people know what right and wrong is.


well... most of them anyway...
#295 to #27 - anon (07/25/2013) [-]
You absolute imbecile. You cock-eyed, bow-legged, conservatrash imbecile. Do you know nothing about how the human mind works? We are not sponges, we do not practice monkey see monkey do. Do you know how many times I've played Call of Duty/ League of Legends/ DotA / Battlefield / Red Dead Redemption / countless other games, and watched countless films/tv shows and read countless literature full of violence and hate? Do you know how many people I have physically harmed in my entire life? 0. I've never been in a fight, never killed anyone for that matter. If you honestly thing those means of entertainment have a strong effect on the human mind you're an absolute idiot. Does playing Disgaea also mean I want to be the supreme overlord of the underworld, ruling with an iron fist? According to your hillbilly logic it does.
#269 to #27 - anon (07/25/2013) [-]
You are completely retarded, aren't you? Well let's just hope you don't reproduce.
#171 to #27 - crazyolitis (07/25/2013) [-]
Guys, this is the same troll from yesterday, who called himself 'wisdomandtaste' just look at this name again, 'berespectable' and the way he says this kind of **** . Seriously, you guys don't see what a troll is and what isn't?
User avatar #151 to #27 - rakaka (07/25/2013) [-]
Found the middle-aged soccer mom
#76 to #27 - teenytinyspider (07/25/2013) [-]
I bet you don't even let your kids watch animal violence on Discovery Channel. Really, if you keep your kid on too tight of a leash, they'll go full-force rebellion as soon as they get out. I should know, it happened to my sister and two of my cousins. We were all raised by very religious super-strict parents. I turned out okay, because I was more careful in my decisions after that, but my sister is a materialistic bitch and my cousins both went full-out wild, but luckily never ended up in trouble.
#60 to #27 - drainbramage ONLINE (07/25/2013) [-]
Playing violent video games doesn't make you do any of that, I've been playing them for most of my life and I've never done any of it, apart from rebelling against my parents, which teenagers have done since the beginning of time, you're just some terrified soccermom who got lost on her way to taking joy out of their childs life.    
   
Plus if you see something in a videogame and think it's a good idea, you were already pretty 						******					 up in the first place.
Playing violent video games doesn't make you do any of that, I've been playing them for most of my life and I've never done any of it, apart from rebelling against my parents, which teenagers have done since the beginning of time, you're just some terrified soccermom who got lost on her way to taking joy out of their childs life.

Plus if you see something in a videogame and think it's a good idea, you were already pretty ****** up in the first place.
User avatar #37 to #27 - rheago (07/25/2013) [-]
Kids don't play those games 24/7. If you're a good parent you show your kids the right ways to live. Teach them to be helpfull and all that fun stuff.
They play the games to have fun, if you raise them right you'll notice that they realize that it's just a game.

By your logic every kid in the world is a voilent piece of **** .
Don't raise pieces of **** , raise them well.
#42 to #37 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Violent profane games don't necessarily make the kids violent, violence is scary, most just become profane and adoring of violence from a distance. Most people always jump to advocate these things because they personally like them and therefore will say anything under the stars to try to justify what they like.

I care more about what really is right than justifying my own vices and I care more about my own kids than I do making little clones of myself with all of my shortcomings. I want my kids to be better than I have ever been (of course it doesn't hurt that I don't like most of that crap anyway). I have seen enough real violence and done enough real evil sex and disgraced myself using enough profanity and by being a rotten punk in my early years to have thoroughly learned how truly 'not cool' it all is and I put that knowledge into use as I help my kids avoid the traps that today's rotten society sets for the youth.
#137 to #42 - jazzyietheferret (07/25/2013) [-]
If this is how you truly feel, I think you are on the wrong site bud.
#74 to #42 - anon (07/25/2013) [-]
3/10 made people reply
#31 to #27 - misfitsftw (07/25/2013) [-]
the idea is to do your job as a parent well enough that they can play violent games without the negative messages leaving an impact on your child. this post clearly went straight over your head...
#36 to #31 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Doing your job as a parent means not exposing them to filth, especially filth that glamorizes filth. My son is 14, top of his class and one of the academic representatives of his whole school, he is physically fit, manly, handsome, polite, brave, not wimpy in any way, has many good friends, is very responsible, clever, sharp wit, he doesn't say profanity, he doesn't think movies like 'american pie' are funny or cool, movies where people are shooting at each other are seen as tragic and stupid rather than 'awesome', the only video games he likes are either puzzles, nonviolent or violent only against monsters or aliens and never humans, he knows the 'birds and the bees' but has no interest in porn instead he hangs out with many beautiful young ladies, with whom he is a gentleman and never tries to 'sample the goods' as he has respect for his female friends and intends to wait for marriage to 'get it on', he never insults people, even behind their back and he doesn't tell lies.

I would say that makes me an expert on what is and is not good parenting.
User avatar #127 to #36 - timmywankenobi ONLINE (07/25/2013) [-]
fyi- it sounds like your son might be gay .
User avatar #400 to #127 - misfitsftw (07/26/2013) [-]
or 6
#48 to #36 - kuci (07/25/2013) [-]
"manly, handsome, polite, brave, not wimpy in any way, has many good friends, is very responsible, clever, sharp wit,"

From what I see of your post:
Very... Subjective positive thoughts you have about your own son. Just like any parent, you cannot see the negative sides of your son. I can almost assure you, that your son is in no way as perfect as you describe him to be. No one is.

In fact, I think that you make your son sound like such a "god amongst men", that everyone elses kids are below your son.

I also like how you allow your son to kill 'monsters' or 'aliens' in video games, does this not make your son enjoy harming real life animals? My logic being, what is there to say that monsters and aliens cannot all be "good" or that some animals may appear as monsters, during the right setting (Dark, lightning, rainy etc).

I do think you're a christian, or a troll.

If you're a troll, good job then.
#54 to #48 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
My son is all of the things I said he is, even you would see it if you knew him. And no, he is not cruel to animals, he is loving and sympathetic with animals. Shooting 'aliens' or monsters is a good reaction that I encourage him to have because the only thing that would ever really resemble something like that would probably come in the form of some kind of twisted population control experiment, which I would want want him to have a built in impulse to open fire upon. And he definitely knows the difference between monsters and animals, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (though he could easily become one).

You say I sound like I am either a Christian or a troll, and in your way of thinking, only if I am being facetious for the sake of irritating people is what I have said here 'good'. That is a very very sadly backwards way to think and I truly pity you.
User avatar #78 to #54 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
yep pretty sure is troll
User avatar #191 to #78 - rieskimo (07/25/2013) [-]
Let's just redthumb him into his next troll profile.
#82 to #78 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
well, that seems to be the new word for people who make articulated and factual assessments which go against the personal desires of others on this site.
#46 to #36 - fuckincanuck (07/25/2013) [-]
As a nineteen year-old Canadian dirtbag I would personally like to thank parents like you. You provide me with the naive, repressed, willing to do anything young women I've grown accustomed to. I salute you for producing human beings so hungry for a good shag they practically pounce on any man they find attractive. I just owe you so much.
#51 to #46 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Oh my kids are neither naive nor repressed, they have self discipline and they understand the value of patience and moderation and I am giving them a lifetime worth of street knowledge to help them see right through the dirtbags they may encounter. I assure you, my kids are immune to your 'game' and virtue satisfies more than the impulsive will ever know.

An accurate analogy is the satisfaction in life a person who takes painkillers only when they have pain has vs. the satisfaction in life someone addicted to the recreational use of painkillers has. Oh the junkie thinks they are wise and happy, but that don't last and it don't end well either, but the other guy, he will be able to live a life focusing on what counts instead of a filthy impulsive habit.

In time you will also regret your mistakes.
#55 to #51 - fuckincanuck (07/25/2013) [-]
Oh no, hedonism Is its own reward. And the pleasures of carnal knowledge are lovely when shared. But Honey you don't know the disciplined, virtuous, and surprisingly willing young ladies I know. They're amazing. oh so intelligent, oh so driven, and oh so repressed by parents like you. They go ******* wild once they lose you not to worry they only lose it in the bedroom and at the bar but good god its a glorious thing to see. And I dont play a game, I help fulfill desires that are already there. Oh and **** your virtue, there isnt enough goddamn time on this earth to deny simple harmless pleasures. And sex isnt a pain killer, or a dangerous drug. And are you teaching your children safe sex? do they have condoms available? do they know how long plan B is effective for?
#61 to #55 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Been there done that probably a lot more than you have and I lived to realize how wrong it all is. The gullible kids you are seducing are nothing like my kids, I am not a naive man and I have a lifetime of the hardest won knowledge to share with them so they are a lot smarter than the ones you victimize.

Of course if I were a more naive man or if I had any naive friends and either my or their kids were seduced by someone like you, I would personally torture you into a life in a wheelchair with my bare hands, no exaggeration (ex-military - violent felon - 260 lbs.), however I honestly hope you don't have to experience such a thing to learn the value of virtue.

In time you will definitely find out how wrong you are, I wish I could warn you, but you are willfully ignorant and disrespectful the only thing that can overcome the human will is one's own self, so, barring an epiphany, your path to knowledge is likely to either be a painful one or a dead end.
#373 to #61 - fuckincanuck (07/26/2013) [-]
To be fair I am not a felon, I am well on my way to an Engineering degree. Also since when is abstinence a virtue? And as someone who has got in fights for his family I can tell you you pick some ****** reasons, you're kids having sex is the most natural, reasonable thing in the world. And I'm sorry you've had a tough life man, I mean that with all my heart but I'm not wrong. I have safe sex I dont promise anything more than I give, I'm honest about what I'm after. Don't repress your children, please it doesnt help anyone least of all them. I dont need an epiphany, I have my path in life set out before me. And threatening a 19 year-old with torture for sleeping with your child is ridiculous. I dont deny you probably could put me in a wheel-chair with your bare-hands. But there are consequences to such rash "moral" actions.
User avatar #84 to #61 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
wait... you're a self proclaimed violent felon and you still have the nerve to go all self-righteous on a videogame.
...if you're trolling it's simultaneously impressive and underwhelming
+1
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#104 to #84 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
As I say, I am a person who has made enough mistakes to know. You know I am not trolling.
#83 to #61 - teenytinyspider (07/25/2013) [-]
Allow me to impute my experiences with you. Obviously, you're too steadfast in believing that kids shouldn't be allowed to play violent video-games, but what do YOU constitute as violence? Because even a guy waving his sword around going to slay an evil dragon can be seen as violent, or even a guy jumping on turtles can be seen as too violent, but considering you're talking about those, let me give you a story.

I grew up on The Legend of Zelda, Mario, Nintendo, Sony, etc. I rarely played M-Rated games, but I did. I am currently an adult with a full-time career and have never once been in legal trouble. Wanna know why? My parents SUPERVISED me and made SURE I was mature enough to know the differences between something in real live versus something that's a bunch of pixels on a screen. I knew a character that died in a game and came back to life when I turned it back on wouldn't happen in real life.

Two of my cousins were raised in strict religious up-bringing and they went WILD after they grew up. You can read my comment above for more.

I'm not saying how to raise your kids, I'm giving more of a fair warning really. Too loose and they'll go crazy, too tight and they'll go crazy.
User avatar #129 to #83 - timmywankenobi ONLINE (07/25/2013) [-]
what you say is true.
#132 to #129 - teenytinyspider (07/25/2013) [-]
Hello again

And I forgot to mention, I was also raised in a religious setting, see above comment, and didn't go wild, because my parents were strict but not THAT strict. Too bad the message didn't stick with my sister.
User avatar #134 to #132 - timmywankenobi ONLINE (07/25/2013) [-]
I to was raised in a strict religious household, and my older sisers also became very slutty but also very shrewd. Again you and I don't seem to be very different.
#138 to #134 - teenytinyspider (07/25/2013) [-]
No, we don't. I was just mentioning that to those who might say,"Well, you weren't raised in a religious household" To show that, yeah, I was.
#35 to #31 - broorb (07/25/2013) [-]
You don't have kids, do you?
User avatar #33 to #31 - mechaemperor (07/25/2013) [-]
From what I see, beres just can't pass an opportunity to make a social criticism that looks pseudo-intellectual without assessing the whole point of the argument first.
#30 to #27 - broorb (07/25/2013) [-]
I legitimately breathed out a "woah" as I finished reading that comment

you put it better than I ever could. beautifully done, mate, if those are your own words.
#32 to #30 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Thank you very much, but you will be getting many a red thumb for agreeing with me, this is a place of great mental famine and I am the least loved person on fj. I have to make a new account almost every two days because I get so many red thumbs. Be well sir or maam.
#34 to #32 - broorb (07/25/2013) [-]
In honesty, I couldn't care less. I took against this particular speech in the film yet found myself unable to articulate my own reasoning, hah. Should I need to I might quote you on this, if you won't mind?
User avatar #39 to #34 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
Too many violent video games must have sapped your ability to articulate.
#41 to #39 - broorb (07/25/2013) [-]
hah, in which case I'm a prime case for berespectable's argument
#38 to #34 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Go right ahead, take it as your own if you want, truth its truth. i will probably have a new username by tomorrow anyway.
#40 to #38 - broorb (07/25/2013) [-]
you bloody martyr. not to wank you off or anything but I'm a bit bowled over by your existence, it's as if my mental schema of funnyjunk is having problems accepting the idea of a moral warrior within FJ walls. it's very refreshing to see, sir/miss
#45 to #40 - berespectable (07/25/2013) [-]
Lol, well your kindness touches me. I have been here for years and they really really hate me here, so many banned accounts, heck even yesterdays account is already set at i can only comment every 999999 minutes. But this is the real kicker for me, once in a while someone will agree with something I say one day and the next day, under a new account i will say something else equally true and that person will hate my guts. i don't tell them who i am, it would just make them want to give up the other good part they got. I actually do like to see dome funny here and that is why I originally came but I saw how sickeningly backwards the kids are today and i just had to make sure there was at least one voice telling the truth, just in case it ever makes any difference, but I am mostly just hated and told to kill myself, lol. Oh well, at least this site still occasionally has a little funny.
#62 to #58 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
No, red thumbs mean nothing, but people being terribly wrong en masse means 'stand boldly for the truth and never stop'.
User avatar #87 to #62 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
no opinions are subjective, and mostly everyone's opinion is that you deserve a crapload of red thumbs
#93 to #87 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Opinions may be subjective but the truth is not.
User avatar #243 to #93 - jakesir (07/25/2013) [-]
See your problem is you're a total bigot. "My way is right and that is the end of the story". That's why you annoy me.
User avatar #101 to #93 - luthervonappledorf (07/25/2013) [-]
Truth, by definition, is subjective. It has to be defined by either one person or a set of persons. Therefore, it is subjective. There is no definitive moral code which we live by, there are simple guidelines set in place by other people. Who's to say what is truth and what isn't?
#106 to #101 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Thats ******** , truth it truth no matter what anyone thinks. You have been taught to claim that morality is 'subjective' because that attitude produces immorality and you defend that claim because you are immoral. Truth is not subjective, do you think that if there were no people that everything would just vanish because there was no one left to 'define' it? And morality is defined by truth. You have been intentionally taught to think wrong. Truth is truth and it goes right along in the same way regardless what people think. My kid is great and you are punks, my correctness is self evident.
User avatar #202 to #106 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
"Its not immoral for me to hurt a guy who did that. He would deserve it and it would be my duty to society to do it. Morality is NOT subjective, people may have different ideas but that just makes most of them wrong. Truth is easy to find if you dont have an agenda that motivates you to engage in mental acrobatics."
You are deciding what he deserves and what he doesn't deserve based on your personal morals. You are not god, you are not the dictator, what makes what you say the right way? You say it's right because it's right. That's not proof or evidence that's just your opinion.
Everyone has an agenda.
Maybe Hitler knew what he was doing was wrong, but how do you know? Because what he did was wrong? Who decides what he did was wrong? You?
User avatar #160 to #106 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
You are being closed minded. We are human. We are not perfect. At the most we can only be 99.99...% sure of something. You must always keep that doubt because we can never know the truth. I could give you an apple and ask you what colour it is and you might say "red" and you might think that is the truth, but it is not. It is a fact, but it is not the truth. The mind is very, very, easily fooled. Optical illusions, placebo, and drugs all prove this. You may see the apple as red, but maybe it's just in your head and it's really purple or some other colour. Maybe the apple doesn't even exist and everything that you think exists is really only in your head.
Morality is subjective though. Morality is only how we distinguish right from wrong. It has nothing to do with truth. Hitler thought he was in the right.

You also sound like an asshole when you say your kid is great and everyone else are punks. Everyone thinks their child is great. My friend's parents think she is a good girl, but she smokes, drinks, and isn't a virgin. It's the same as someone saying their dog is smarter than other dogs.
#164 to #160 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
tl;dr We can get a lot closer to perfect than most westerners think, and furthermore we can know an awful lot of things 100% too. You just want to justify your paradigm.
User avatar #166 to #164 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
Okay, prove to me 100% that you are not in a coma and everything you experience is a figment of your imagination.
#170 to #166 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
You mean make you admit that? We both know it, you just want to play a game. You exist, I exist, you want to make these absurd long winded arguments to try to validate your position but your position is self canceling. If you really think there is a possibility one or both of us might be dreaming this and that truth is 'subjective' then simply by trying to convince me that I am incorrect you prove that you do not in fact believe that truth really is 'subjective'.

User avatar #176 to #170 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
You misunderstand. Truth is not subjective. Morality is subjective. Truth is truth. Truth is 100%. I'm saying we cannot know the truth. We thought the truth was that the earth was flat. We thought the truth was that the earth revolved around the sun. Humans are simple creatures that are easily fooled. We've seen only a percentage of the universe and been to an infinitely small portion of it. What makes you think we are qualified to say with absolute certainty that what we know is the truth?
#182 to #176 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
And furthermore, there are things we CAN know 100% and things we dont know yet and things many of us will NEVER know because they run from that knowledge. The floor is beneath your feet, thats fo sho kemosabe.
User avatar #211 to #182 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
lol.
I'm arguing morality, not parenting.
I can do parenting if you like. You say to protect them and not let them play these violent games. Is it best to protect children from germs because they might get sick? No, you have to let them experience it and develop an immunity. The world is cold and it's cruel. If they don't know that then they will go out and get mugged thinking the guy just wants a hug.
If your parenting is so good and if your child is so perfect then how could something like a game corrupt him so easily? If that's the case then you're raising him to be weak.
User avatar #194 to #182 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
When you say "this is 100%" and "that is 100%" then you have to know when to draw the line. did you take a math course in high school? Then you should know that you can rationalize 99.99... to 100. I'm not saying that it's likely that everything is in your head or that the floor is not beneath my feet, but I'm saying that you have to keep an open mind. You have to be willing to say "maybe I am wrong." If not then when the time comes that you are wrong (and no one is ever always right) you will not be able to accept that you are wrong because you think that there is no chance that you are wrong.
You say the floor is beneath my feet, the proof? I can see the floor beneath my feet.
Galileo says the Earth revolves around the sun and had proof, but still people did not believe him because they were 100% sure that the earth was the center of everything.
#201 to #194 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Thats just head game ******** , you know the earth is beneath you and if you test that knowledge it will prove true. So much of the new curriculum in school has changed basic definitions and introduced ideas like what you just told me which are inaccurate psuedointellectual crap specifically designed to get peoples heads stuck way up their ass instead of seeing reality for what it is. I am done with this conversation, if you still think I am not qualified to say what is good parenting, then go on with your bad self, and when your teenage daughter becomes a self hating jaded feminazi because you were so 'liberal' and allowed her to go get *********** by the football team and have abortions because 'we cant define morality' maybe you will remember my words.
#180 to #176 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Morality is inextricably connected to truth, I am getting sick of this, look if someone comes around and pokes your ******* eyeball out for no reason, that is wrong and thats a FACT. End of story.
User avatar #229 to #180 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
dude, the fact that you keep arguing morality on a humor website and somehow still end up losing said arguments ,once again, on a humor site should be setting of red flags.
I mean I respect that they're your kids and your tryin to raise em right, even if I don't agree with you, but forcing your views on others and seeing all other as wrong isn't good at all.
User avatar #190 to #180 - articulate (07/25/2013) [-]
Okay. What if a man poked your son's eyeball out for no reason? Would you do nothing in retaliation because it would be immoral to hurt him? An eye for an eye right? But where do we draw the line? We have to use our morals to decide what is right and what is wrong. Because he did something immoral he deserves to be punished.
Like I said, Hitler thought what he was doing was moral and right. He was purifying Germany.
You're using your personal morals to say that poking someone's eye out randomly is immoral. Someone else might think it is perfectly moral to poke someone's eye out randomly. Because people have different morals morality is subjective.
#195 to #190 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Its not immoral for me to hurt a guy who did that. He would deserve it and it would be my duty to society to do it. Morality is NOT subjective, people may have different ideas but that just makes most of them wrong. Truth is easy to find if you dont have an agenda that motivates you to engage in mental acrobatics.

Oh, and hitler, fan of blavatsky, was a knowingly and intentionally evil man. Sure knowingly evil people eventually try to say that their inverted ways are 'good' but that doesn't change their true self evident nature. Btw, he was no catholic, thats just smokescreen.
User avatar #111 to #106 - luthervonappledorf (07/25/2013) [-]
Morality evolved as a defence mechanism to help protect society. The pockets that formed needed some form of law. You can see it in nature all the time. A hierarchy is formed and the laws are set by the leader. It happened in humans too. Yes, our higher brain function enables us to make them somewhat more concrete, but that doesn't make them any less changeable.

Look at different religions, they all have varying views on many different topics. This has led to conflicting truth's and morals all across the world. How can truth and morality not be subjective, if they differ from person to person, country to country?
#116 to #111 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Well that is what you were told by your programmers and you have a personal incentive to defend it, but it is completely wrong. There may be many religions but only one is truly virtuous and only one is hated universally, why? Because it supports the morality which is inextricable from reality. Does pain hurt? you dont like it, dont do it to others. Did you own something? Dont take what other people own. Do you trust someone? Dont try to get someone to betray. Do you know for a fact how things were created? Then dont badmouth people that may exist that you dont know. Does false information cause danger and sorrow? Then dont give false information. This is all basic but the media and the government and the schools all have been warped to teach kids to get lost in a half autistic daydream rather then to actually see what is in front of their face. Truth is constant and true morality is defined by truth.
User avatar #117 to #116 - luthervonappledorf (07/25/2013) [-]
And what religion is that is truly virtuous and universally hated?
#122 to #117 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
I would be genuinely surprised if you really didnt know, but since I cant read your mind I will just tell you to look for the one that people hate the worst and with the most venom and which many countries are working toward outlawing.
User avatar #125 to #122 - luthervonappledorf (07/25/2013) [-]
Again, that could be any. I'd much rather you tell me so I don't have to guess.
User avatar #95 to #93 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
but that's your view on the truth can't you understand that someone could just view a slightly different truth.
#103 to #95 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Oh I understand it, its called being wrong. Life imitates art. You want a kid who wears a sideways hat and says ' *********** a lot, hand him some 'limp bizkit' cd's, if you don't then make sure he doesn't ever get those cd's during his most impressionable years and the odds are very good he will never feel especially attracted to that kind of thing later. It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out, you are all jut in denial because you are hooked on this worthless crap, which also explains why most of you are so shallow too, just a bunch of programmed little robots raised by the television.
User avatar #67 to #62 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
Sometimes, the majority is wrong and held together by its own inertia alone.
Such as with the old thoughts that the world was flat, or earth was the center of the universe.
Sometimes the majority is right and the outliers are the wrongs ones, such as with Neo-Nazis (Yes, I get that my username might seem counterproductive here, so I'm just going to say right now that it's for joking potential only), Communists, or Vegan Extremists.

The point is, just because you're standing alone in face of all others does not make you right.
Consider the fact that all children have lifestyles their parents know absolutely nothing about. Your son, who you seem to see as perfection, likely has a life you can only guess at, which, even more likely, falls short of your opinion on him.
#72 to #67 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
True, just standing alone against the social tide does not make one right. However, being that I am the only one here qualified to talk, that does a little bit more for my credibility.

Now you talk to me about my son's alleged hidden life, first of all, I am pretty streetsmart guy and nothing goes on in my domain without my knowledge, second of all, my son really is as good as I say he is and he doesn't have any secret life, he gets himself up at 4:30 in the morning and goes to school, he gets home directly after school is out, we are a close family and a happy family and thats how we roll.

If anything he is better than I think, there have been times when he was arguing with his mum and I would come in and get pissed at him, only to find out she was trying to do something retarded and he was trying to protect her and had always remained respectful even when he argued with her.

No, see, there really are good and smart people on this earth, I know it is rare in your culture but not in mine. If you were to look closely you would find that there really is such a thing as families who don't have secrets and who really do function well together and well in general, you just need to broaden your perspective. See, mainstream American and Canadian and UK culture are like the disgrace of the whole earth morally, they think they ARE the whole earth but really most of the world stands pointing and amazed at the insanity.
#89 to #72 - anon (07/25/2013) [-]
I'm truly sorry about your son, because one day he is to change completely, not because of bad influence but because of influence from the "good" people you think he socializes with; what I've seen it's that between "perfect" people as your son there is much competition and no one likes someone that it's better than them, not even those kids, because there are a lot of parents like you who try to make their sons "the best" unfortunately all of those sons become pretty nasty people when they grow up because of their desire to be great; I am like your son with my parents and my acquaintances, but when I meet someone like me, I make them sink and I'm pretty sure your son does it too, but in a polite way, just as me. He won't act like it but that doesn't mean he doesn't think the others are inferior to him, which makes him the worst kind of person there is, because he will not feel empathy for anybody, because ,just like you, he thinks he's so ******* perfect.
User avatar #79 to #72 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
You say you are the only one here qualified to talk, yet you don't explain WHY you are the only one qualified to talk.
You make a lot of claims, yet they are unarguable solely because we can have no real evidence either way.
You make assumptions about my culture, and say yours is different, yet you do not say WHAT your culture is.

This argument lacks both debatability and credibility.
#91 to #79 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
I have told you about my kid, and you dont believe me, if I tell you about my culture you will claim to still not believe me, in fact until i come to your door with my kid and the principle of his school you would claim not to believe me. You just like your nasty video games and thats what all this bull is about. My advice was good, do what you want with it.

P.s. Look into traditional Asian cultures.
User avatar #98 to #91 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
Your right, I don't tend to believe comments on the internet, especially on a site like this, which have no evidence.
And your advice is not good. Sheltering the mind can only be bad, as anything is with sheltering and making the opposed item banned. Look at alcohol in the US. Many teens will take the opportunity to drink because it's something restricted, something banned. It goes back to the biblical tale of Adam and Eve- they had to eat the apple, the one thing forbidden to them. Whether it's Satan's whisperings or human instinct is up for debate.

The proper way to deal with unhealthy emotions is not to shelter the mind from them, but to learn to cope with them. There are tens of millions of people buying violent games each year, many of which focus on, or include, arson, murder, blackmail, stealing, and a wide variety of other illegal activities. The majority of these people do not go on to burn things down, to slaughter the innocent, to blackmail or steal. It's simply enjoyment that they know doesn't impact who they are, should be, or will be.
User avatar #64 to #62 - LaBarata (07/25/2013) [-]
Yes, but you have to actually be right for that to apply.
#65 to #64 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
I definitely am, you will learn one day.
User avatar #69 to #65 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
And just saying "You will learn one day" doesn't make you sound old and wise. To have any real standing in any argument, you must back it up with some substance.
#75 to #69 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Maybe not, but I am old and wise and you WILL learn one day.

'Back it up with substance' Yeah, that is what I have been doing, you will just argue against anything that doesn't suit your little selfish agenda. You are welcome for the good advise, toodles.
User avatar #81 to #75 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
Once again, you claim knowledge over others that you simply don't have.
#85 to #81 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
I dont have it? I am the father of a happy, healthy, genius.

You are just arguing because I represent a sector of people who encourages parents to disallow immoral games, movies, music, etc. and you are addicted to it.
User avatar #88 to #85 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
You don't have knowledge over other people's agendas, and what suits them.
And yes, I argue because I disagree with your opinion, and instead believe that things should not be disallowed just because people find things to be immoral. What a good parent should do, and does, is teach their child and make sure they know games, movies, books, music, do not apply to real life with their solutions. They can be used as a source to vent, or just pure enjoyment. Fetishes, violent enjoyments, repressed opinions, everyone has these. People, at least those who are on the more... legal side of life, just do not let their enjoyments become their actual life.
#96 to #88 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Yeah, I do, figuring out what motivates people is my specialty. You are paper thin and transparent, you love your vices, so you defend them, most people are the same way. No mystique at all. Bye bye.
User avatar #100 to #96 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
Most of the vices I defend I neither practice nor enjoy. I defend what I believe to be right, whether or not I personally enjoy it.
#109 to #100 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
You defend freedom of vice because you want freedom for your own vices.
User avatar #153 to #109 - newforomador ONLINE (07/25/2013) [-]
Berespectable, goodnessisbetter, fjcensorstheright. This doesn't seem like a samefagging troll at all.
User avatar #113 to #109 - ilovehitler (07/25/2013) [-]
I must have the most boring vices in the world, then.
My enjoyments are reading, browsing this site, and watching people's interactions.


And, who are you to attempt to sound morally right? You've already admitted you're violent and have violent tendencies. You claim to be against vice, yet have said that, given the reason, you would torture someone with your bare hands. That's not exactly morally pure.
#120 to #113 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Well, if I was given a good reason that would be on their head for harming my kids, i try to be merciful but i have a moral mandate to protect my kids. As for your vices, vice is in the heart, even defending vice is a vice.
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User avatar #66 to #65 - LaBarata (07/25/2013) [-]
Just because you're an awful parent doesn't mean that you can pin the blame on everything else but yourself.
#68 to #66 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
You call me an awful parent when I have raise a superb human being with whom I have an excellent relationship, you are just running your mouth. There comes a time when the talking is no longer profitable.
#90 to #68 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
**toddingram rolled a random image posted in comment #22 at Too awesome Johnny Depp ** all this just raises the question, why are you still on funnyjunk?
#97 to #90 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
I like me some funny, I like to place truth where there would otherwise be none and I like to annoy people who don't like truth.
User avatar #102 to #97 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
once again, your version of the 'truth' is very different from my and everyone elses's version.
#108 to #102 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Opinions dont matter, my 'version' is the time honored, effective and self evident one and therefore the correct one. That is all.
#136 to #108 - jlew (07/25/2013) [-]
I like how your username keeps changing and yet you are talking from the same point of view. It really helps to support the fact that you truly believe what you are saying and aren't a troll using a hot topic to garner some sort of reaction.   
In all honesty whether you are trolling or not your point is falling on deaf ears and is mostly shallow. If you did raise your kid to be a perfect model of virtue then you will just have to wait and see until he grows up and rejects that for something different. Can't wait until you call me depraved or something for talking back against you and defending violent video games. I mean, its not like they are GAMES or anything.
I like how your username keeps changing and yet you are talking from the same point of view. It really helps to support the fact that you truly believe what you are saying and aren't a troll using a hot topic to garner some sort of reaction.
In all honesty whether you are trolling or not your point is falling on deaf ears and is mostly shallow. If you did raise your kid to be a perfect model of virtue then you will just have to wait and see until he grows up and rejects that for something different. Can't wait until you call me depraved or something for talking back against you and defending violent video games. I mean, its not like they are GAMES or anything.
#144 to #136 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Yeah well after the snot nosed kids thumb me down enough it wont allow me to respond anymore, thats why I have to make new accounts and that is also why they are the majority here, as the current username indicates, fj censors the right.

My points are the opposite of 'shallow', shallow is when someone assumes that just because something is intended for entertainment that it cant have any serious personality shaping effect on people or that really that would not be the MOST effective way to alter peoples personalities short of physical trauma.
#245 to #144 - toddingram (07/25/2013) [-]
**toddingram rolled a random image posted in comment #84 at Is that truth from Fullmetal alchemist? ** god tier troll
**toddingram rolled a random image posted in comment #84 at Is that truth from Fullmetal alchemist? ** god tier troll
User avatar #165 to #144 - jlew (07/25/2013) [-]
Seems we've reached the end of the purple lines, as I said before I'm done here. You obviously refuse to understand that you can't force force your child to be perfect.
"they get violence, they don't like it" That makes me laugh.
You obviously missed my point. It doesn't matter if you get violence, being able to deal with it is the problem. I'm not advocating violence. I'm saying that you have denied your children part of what life is. It doesn't matter if they "get it".
Denying your children the experience of being able to make those mistakes will only stunt their growth.
#178 to #165 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
Look, my kids dont need video game ******** to be able to deal with reality, they have seen plenty and I have told them more. True stories and real experiences, things that matter. Capiche?
User avatar #157 to #144 - jlew (07/25/2013) [-]
A violent video game will only affect someone who is unable to differentiate reality from fiction. It doesn't really matter if you raised your kid to be perfect, if they can't tell reality from fiction then seeing violence will still affect them.
Also haven't you ever thought about the good that can come from having already seen violence, even in just a video game or movie? You have completely isolated your kids from a big portion of what life is about. You said earlier that your son was "manly, brave, and intelligent". That only lasts in the bubble that you have created. Lets say that your son decides to join the army when he gets older, he gets accepted and after his training is over he gets shipped out to fight. Even though he is brave NOW he won't have any experience dealing with the traumas of war, training camp can't prepare you for that and the drill sergeants admit that. Because your son hasn't experienced violence, even a shallow version of it, he will be completely thrown off by what he witnesses and will be scarred more that he would have ever been from video games or movies.
Are you telling me that you've prepared your children to see another man killed in front of their eyes? Are they prepared to come home one day and find that maybe you aren't there anymore? You may have taught them steps that they should take if you or someone else is injured, but what if the injury is serious? What if someone brakes into your home when you aren't around?
The parent's job is not to make a child into the perfect picture that you want them to be. The parent's job is to lay the foundation for the child's life. And that means every aspect of what life is. All of the happiness, sorrow, love, and death. You've prepared your kids for the good, you may have even given them knowledge of the bad, but can you say that they are experienced enough to deal with the bad, that they won't crack under pressure.
I'm done here. 2000 characters is quite a lot.
#158 to #157 - fjcensorstheright (07/25/2013) [-]
You missed it. They get violence, they just dont like it, same for profanity.
User avatar #71 to #68 - LaBarata (07/25/2013) [-]
Sorry, I think my filthy item daddy must have put up a new word filter. You keep typing, but all that ends up being posted is MY PROBLEMS ARE EVERYONE'S FAULT BUT MINE written over and over again.
#80 to #71 - goodnessisbetter (07/25/2013) [-]
Interesting, since the substance of what I have been saying is that I am personally responsible for how my children are raised.
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