I would disagree, i like all the meta gae techniques in melee because it leaves you with so many other options in different situations, rather than simply rolling. And it makes the gameplay fast and smooth, smash 4 seems too dumbed down for me to really enjoy it, and i don't agree with sakurai when he over simplifies the gameplay so inexperienced players have a chance to win, which is total ******** .
Marvel vs capcom 3 as serious competitive fighting... that is some of the dumbest **** I've seen, it is a party fighter like smash and just as unbalanced.