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#8 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
Too bad dinosaurs never existed. evolution is ********

1.genetic limits-genetic limits are built into the basic types, ex,dog breeders always encounter genetic limits when they intelligently attempt to create new breeds of dogs. Dogs may vary incredibly, but despite the best attempts of intelligent dog breeders, dogs are still dogs. If intelligent scientists cannot break genetic barriers, why expect nonintelligent natural selection to do so?
2.Cyclical change-Changes are not directional towards the development of new life forms, as macroevolutionary theory requires,they just shift back and forth within a range. Ex,Darwin's finches adapted to correlate with the weather. Larger beaks helped with harder seeds during draughts and small beaks helped when wetter weather brought smaller seeds. The proportion consistently reversed itself to match the weather,no new life forms came into existence
3.Irreducible complexity-An irreducibly complex system composed of several well-matched interactive parts that contribute to the basic function,wherein the removal of any of these parts causes the system to fail. Being that all biological molecular machines are irreducibly complex,meaning that all parts must be completely formed, in the right places, in the right sizes,in operating order,at the same time, for it to function, thereforeany intermediates would be nonfunctional
4.Molecular isolation-It has often been said the close DNA relationship between humans and apes implies an ancestral relationship. This can easily be interpreted as a common ancestor OR a common creator. After all,if every living creature were distinct biochemically,a food chain would not even exist
5.Nonviablility of Transitional lifeforms-Natural selection creating NEW lifeforms is unlikely because transitional forms could not survive. Ex, if birds evolved gradually from reptiles,there would be a transition between scales and feathers, in which would not be able to survive in any habitat
#114 to #8 - tallahasseezn (04/24/2012) [-]
God, I love this crazy bastard. it's just a shame that he's anon so all these reds aren't crushing him to death. I would also love to hear his views on aliens...
#117 to #114 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
well you could call it crazy, but i think that nephilims exist on other planets and i think the Bible subtly indicates this
#191 to #117 - tallahasseezn (04/24/2012) [-]
so what do these other creations look like?
#91 to #8 - onecarefulowner (04/24/2012) [-]
I am impressed how you managed to make retarded nonsense sound like a well researched argument rather than the the lack of understanding that is really is.
#126 to #91 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
so in other words you're saying "i don't understand, therefore you're wrong"

#132 to #126 - onecarefulowner (04/24/2012) [-]
* sorry read my comment and how many typos so trying again

Nope i am afraid not, I understand evolution theory fairly well after studying it as part of my degree. What your saying though sounding very informative is just wrong.
#134 to #132 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
>claims to be in college

>doesn't know the difference between your and you're

>believes in evolution

#140 to #134 - onecarefulowner (04/24/2012) [-]
Firstly university not college, BSc not english language I know i cant spell, never claim that what I was good at.

End of the day what i believe in is based on evidence, what you believe in is based on the zombie son of god coming back to save your soul. Though admittedly if they tried to sell the bible on that tag line I would buy it.
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#87 to #85 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
i assume you believe in evolution which is a poor excuse at a theory.
User avatar #78 to #8 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
I don't believe in evolution either, but I sure as hell believe in dinosaurs.
It's kinda hard not to, when, ya know...they find their remains everywhere???
User avatar #90 to #78 - greatgatsby (04/24/2012) [-]
I believe in God, but there is such an amount of evidence that evolution exists that there is no point trying to say it never happened.

God caused the big bang and helped shape the universe, just not in a week
User avatar #94 to #90 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
And that is what I believe also. Check my comment waaaay below. The six days in which the universe was created were not literal. They were symbolic of a large span of time.
#93 to #90 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
great gatsby=most overrated book of all time
User avatar #96 to #93 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]

Troll harder
#103 to #96 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
the characters are bland and lifeless. even gatsby, who is supposed to be the most interesting character, is ******* boring and all he does is say really obvious **** . you only like the great gatsby because you've been told it's good
User avatar #110 to #103 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
Just saying, it was a senseless, unrelated statement that was completely unnecessary to the conversation.
Not saying I liked the book either, its just you are trying to troll just a bit to hard...or not hard enough?
#116 to #110 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
i just hate when people cum themselves over the book. the guy NAMED his account after it, and that pissed me off.
#71 to #8 - solidone (04/24/2012) [-]
Nice ad hominem usage right there.
#73 to #71 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
ad hominem means using insults in place of an argument. if you have a sound argument, using a few bad words doesn't make it hominem. you ******* retard.
User avatar #76 to #73 - solidone (04/24/2012) [-]
Insulting the people instead of their argument = ad hominem. You just did it again.
#77 to #76 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
no, i explained why you're retarded, then i called you retarded. if i only called retarded without an explanation that would be ad hominem.
User avatar #83 to #77 - solidone (04/24/2012) [-]
You didn't explain why I'm retarded. You gave reasons why you THINK I'm retarded. You just don't learn.
#102 to #83 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
the point is that i provided an explanation, whether it's true or not is irrelevant, it's no longer ad hominem
User avatar #148 to #102 - solidone (04/24/2012) [-]
It's ad hominem because you're attacking ME, and not my views. You're not understanding this. You didn't refute my argument, you insulted me.
#50 to #8 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
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#54 to #50 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
sounds like you're admitting i'm right
User avatar #57 to #54 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
So tell me, If dinosaurs were fake then the bones scientists were fake? meaning they just put fake bones underground to dig it out infront of the camera just so they can fool people?!
Seems very legit.
#60 to #57 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
i believe that dinosaur "fossils" are just bones from different animals that have been misshapen through natural geologic processess
#100 to #60 - onecarefulowner (04/24/2012) [-]
Bones under go brittle not ductile deformation in an environment that is cool enough for the bones not to be destroyed by heat beyond recognition.
User avatar #79 to #60 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
They have found complete mummified remains of a dinosaur. Explain that.
#82 to #79 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
it was probably an elephant skeleton that was bent into a different shape through compression
User avatar #92 to #82 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
It had scales. And fangs. And compression does not happen to that great of a degree that close to the surface.
#74 to #60 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
you deserve this sir.
#75 to #74 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
no explanation? lame. i reward you the same picture
#62 to #60 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
#63 to #62 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
what you're doing now is called argument from incredulity. it is a logical fallacy
#64 to #63 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
OH you must be trolling you've gone below the threshold of stupidity
#66 to #64 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
insulting me doesn't validate your claims. arent you trolling me?
User avatar #70 to #66 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
nope sorry i don't really like trolling people but you sir are ****** UP!
User avatar #59 to #57 - gregoriez (04/24/2012) [-]
The bones scientists dug out* missed that one
#34 to #8 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
Yes, yes. Feast foul beast on the storm of **** you have conjured. Gorge yourself full with the hate of a thousand suns.
#27 to #8 - SmuttyKage (04/24/2012) [-]
Nice arguments... but consider the following;
1. you cannot break the genetic barriers in 6 generations which is the time dog breeders use to make their breed. ie the frontier dog-wolf. It's not a matter of how intelligent nature is. Mechanical force doesnt have to stop to do math to calculate if it is going to or not pass through an object. It just passes through or bounces off. (or is absorbed whatever)

2.new life forms would come to existance if an ice age or a world draught that came to earth in 2 years and 8 months respectively, came to existance (sp?).

3.Ever heard ov the Junk DNA? that's the part of your DNA that doesn't express and has no function whatsoever other than keep mixing until suddenly they are able to be expressed. Try reading more into the subject. It's true, the system is irreducible. but not all the piece work at the same time or are in the correct operating order (like the Philadelphia Translocation)

4.Of course we come from the same creator. we are made up of the same lego blocks called Carbon Oxygen Nitrogen Phosphorus, Sulfur, and Hidrogen.


Good Day. (pic related)
#115 to #27 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
The first anon is trolling I think, but the Archaeopteryx has been proven to be unusable as evidence for evolution because it appears before the animal it is credited with evolving from in the geological time scale so unless carbon dating is wrong (which would seriously mess up evolution arguments) then Archaeopteryx must be disregarded as evidence for evolution.
User avatar #188 to #115 - SmuttyKage (04/24/2012) [-]
I shall update my references then. thanks
#31 to #27 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
1. the dog breeders reach a limit where no more changed can physically occur. adaptation can only change an animal up to a certain point, therefore macro evolution is impossible

2. what? you missed my point. no directional or beneficial mutations have ever been observed. the only observed mutations have been non-directional and reversible

3. there is no junk DNA. we just havent found it's use yet

4. Those are elements, not creators

5. thats a dinosaur. not a transitional form
User avatar #38 to #31 - SmuttyKage (04/24/2012) [-]
1 Dog breeders find the barrier because they dont have the change of climate and cannot force the dogs to look for a different resource, and cant compete with another species. they are basical taken out of the natural chain.

2. true. Point taken.

3.yes. it has been found a function EVOLUTION

4.true, but that wasnt my point.

5. Archaeopteryx lived in the Late Jurassic Period around 150 million years ago, in what is now southern Germany during a time when Europe was an archipelago of islands in a shallow warm tropical sea, much closer to the equator than it is now. Similar in shape to a European Magpie, with the largest individuals possibly attaining the size of a raven,[2] Archaeopteryx could grow to about 0.5 metres (1.6 ft) in length. Despite its small size, broad wings, and inferred ability to fly or glide, Archaeopteryx has more in common with other small Mesozoic dinosaurs than it does with modern birds. In particular, it shares the following features with the deinonychosaurs (dromaeosaurs and troodontids): jaws with sharp teeth, three fingers with claws, a long bony tail, hyperextensible second toes ("killing claw"), feathers (which also suggest homeothermy), and various skeletal features.[3][4]

The features above make Archaeopteryx a clear candidate for a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and birds.[5][6] Thus, Archaeopteryx plays an important role not only in the study of the origin of birds but in the study of dinosaurs.

#40 to #38 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
wow dude...you're really hateful. Sounds like you need to read the Bible or go to Church, get a life man
User avatar #190 to #40 - SmuttyKage (04/24/2012) [-]
Nice troll is like a punching bag. I need to let off some steam and he just appears! shouldn't have fed troll tho :/
#43 to #40 - rprol (04/24/2012) [-]
please explain to me why having an intelligent reasoned debate is 'not having a life'..
please explain to me why having an intelligent reasoned debate is 'not having a life'..
#49 to #43 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
you've dedicated to your life to a "theory" that is completely and utterly refuted by actual science.
User avatar #17 to #8 - AsTeth (04/24/2012) [-]
We've been activitaly breeding dogs for what just over a hundred years now?

Evolution takes place over MILLIONS of years, true mutation of Genetics will not happen in hundreds of years. Dog breeders focus on certain aspects of characteristics lets say small pointed ears, they will breed dogs until these ears are prominently pointed they are not causing any mutation in the breeds that's why a new species of "dog" has been created because they are making a certain gene more dominant then another receive gene.

Probably feeding a troll here but...
User avatar #20 to #17 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
yup fed the troll
#24 to #20 - AsTeth (04/24/2012) [-]
I... have.. so much hate man
#18 to #17 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
the earth hasnt existed for millions of years.
#22 to #18 - burnzart (04/24/2012) [-]
... Not sure if extremely religious, or a retarded troll
#25 to #22 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
if you knew anything about Christianity, you'd understand that's not a religion. it's a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So no, i'm not religious
User avatar #19 to #18 - AsTeth (04/24/2012) [-]
Yes you're right anon

it's existed for Billions
#21 to #19 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
No, it hasn't. And that's not what i was implying. William Lane Craig has proven that the Earth is 6000 years old
User avatar #39 to #21 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
http://kalki. hubpages. com/hub/ veda1

#51 to #39 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
none of those claims are backed up by....anything...
User avatar #67 to #51 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
and what is William Lane Craig backed up by? An imaginary friend that lives up in the sky and has nothing better to do than watches at all times?
#69 to #67 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
william lane craig backs up all his arguments with logical proofs
User avatar #72 to #69 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
Logic has no place in Christianity. I was raised on Christianity and i still thinks one of the stupidest and unoriginal religions on the face of the earth.
User avatar #88 to #72 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
Not all of us are dumb asses like this anon.
Here's what we're taught in my religion: the "six days" in which the universe is made? Days are SYMBOLIC. Each one could represent an immense amount of time. Therefore, billions of years must have passed before the arrival of man.

The whole six literal days **** is a load of bunk. Idiots like this guy give people who believe in God a bad name.
User avatar #95 to #88 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
you are right sir. i apologize for my insensitive comments.
User avatar #101 to #95 - deliciousdee ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
Not a problem, my friend, and thank you for the apology.
Though I do admit, most Christians are misguided and foolish.
#80 to #72 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
Christianity is based solely in logic. God is the most logical entity possible, because he created logic. it's not really accurate to call Christianity a religion either, because religions are based on faith, and Christianity is based on proof
User avatar #173 to #80 - iliketires (04/24/2012) [-]
Logic or no, bloody wars have been fought because of Christianity.

How many wars have been fought in the name of Atheism?
#174 to #173 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
with a face like that, i understand why you're so mad at God
User avatar #176 to #174 - iliketires (04/24/2012) [-]
I am trying to have a civilized debate with you. How can you merit any of your arguments with your immature, close-minded mentality that you have?
User avatar #84 to #80 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
and this is this reason people kill themselves
#29 to #21 - AsTeth (04/24/2012) [-]
If the Earth has only existed for 6000 years how do you explain Dolan?
If the Earth has only existed for 6000 years how do you explain Dolan?
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User avatar #16 to #8 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
its a joke dude, Stop Trolling For Unicorns
User avatar #41 to #16 - vicsix ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
**** , I can't remember that guys name!
User avatar #42 to #41 - baconception (04/24/2012) [-]
Wicked Shrapnel
User avatar #44 to #42 - vicsix ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
Thank you! That guy is hilarious, I'm surprised I couldn't remember his name.
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#11 to #10 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
congrars, you've been indoctrinated into Darwinism by the american education system.
User avatar #12 to #11 - kingfini (04/24/2012) [-]
#13 to #12 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
Whatever you say, Darwinist lunatic.
User avatar #32 to #13 - goodguygary ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
nice troll anon! 1/10 for effort
#35 to #32 - anonymous (04/24/2012) [-]
that's called ad hominem buddy. that's not a valid debate tactic. i'll give you a 0/10 for not saying anything valuable
User avatar #48 to #35 - fooljamable (04/24/2012) [-]
just like to point out, most athiests are people who were religious but then realised it doesn't make sense, twilight has less plot holes ffs!
User avatar #36 to #35 - goodguygary ONLINE (04/24/2012) [-]
i'm not debating anything, you are.
#9 to #8 - traveller (04/24/2012) [-]
you've been playing too much spore
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