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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] 
This person has no idea how the dead ringer works apparently
'Initially theSpy sans takes 65% less damage, this effect is faded over time to normal cloak and 20% damage reduction when 3 seconds has passed. This damage reduction allows the player sans to survive some massive damage as long as the user has a sufficient amount of Health before the attack was made.'
Real knife deals massive damage (basily infinite), sans has 1 hp, therefore that Dead Ringer is more for show then anything else.
'Initially the
Real knife deals massive damage (basily infinite), sans has 1 hp, therefore that Dead Ringer is more for show then anything else.
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] You always take damage with the dead ringer
As a base lets say the Dead Ringer does a flat 50% defence
If you have let's say 20 health and take 10 damage you leave the fight with 15 health
If you have 10 health and take 50 damage you leave the fight with -15 health or dead
You never not take damage with the Dead Ringer so if sans has 1 hp even with a dead ringer you still only have to do 1 damage (you will always take damage)
As a base lets say the Dead Ringer does a flat 50% defence
If you have let's say 20 health and take 10 damage you leave the fight with 15 health
If you have 10 health and take 50 damage you leave the fight with -15 health or dead
You never not take damage with the Dead Ringer so if sans has 1 hp even with a dead ringer you still only have to do 1 damage (you will always take damage)
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profhershellayton (12/21/2015) [-] Then we have the demos and engie and one half of the pyros, god have mercy
Then you have the phong
Then you have the phong
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sirfurnace (12/24/2015) [-] One thing though. Although sans has only 1 base HP, you're forgetting something. In Undertale sleeping raises your max health. What does sans constantly do? Sleep. With the dead ringer, he would need to have 15385 HP to survive the 9999999 damage attack, and he would only survive with 1 HP, and would need to sleep for a VERY long time, but still, it is a possibility.
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anon (12/20/2015) [-]
It's fanart, you whiny little bitch. Believe it or not, fanart rarely corresponds perfectly to in-game logic. Last time I checked, Asgore isn't canonically Santa.
Dickheads like you who hold up a great piece of art, wheeze in a breath, heavily exhale a snide "AKSHUALLY" and insult the person who made the fanart are some of the most irritating twats in the world.
Dickheads like you who hold up a great piece of art, wheeze in a breath, heavily exhale a snide "AKSHUALLY" and insult the person who made the fanart are some of the most irritating twats in the world.
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] WAA SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET SAID SOMETHING I DIDN'T LIKE
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hassoutobi (12/21/2015) [-]
Actually Asgore IS canonically Santa.
He has Santa outfits in his wardrobe. How else can you explain ''Santa'' appearing every christmas in the underground? It's Asgore wanting to make everyone happy.
He has Santa outfits in his wardrobe. How else can you explain ''Santa'' appearing every christmas in the underground? It's Asgore wanting to make everyone happy.
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fazbearxplain (12/20/2015) [-] are we sure he has 1 hp? his flavour text says 1 def 1 atk, not damage. And the blow does 9999999 damage, meaning he could have 9999999 health
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nonamethewise (12/20/2015) [-] It's never said in game, but in the code, he has one health. But that's just code. If I were writing a fight scene where you only hit the guy once, I wouldn't bother giving him more health either.
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usernameis (12/20/2015) [-] Remember in Snowdinn someone tells you "Sleeping can restore your health above your maximum?"
Sans sleeps all the time.
Sans sleeps all the time.
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] Knife as an item does infinite damage so lets pretend its a backstab (something that only does base health * 6)
In the code of the Dead ringer it always fails under three conditions, a fully charged headshot, a backstab or a taunt kill
OR
Let's say sans has a **** tonne of health, let's say the knife isn't a backstab and just does infinite damage and lastly let's say the Dead Ringer halves damage, half of infinite > any set of health value that isn't also infinite
ALSO also lets say the knife isn't even involved www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRHOOH2MiZc sans drops his guard and in the world of undertale that's faithful, Muffet, Papyrus, Toriel and Glad Dummy Also you during the fight with sans all die instantly because they stop fighting. So even if its not the knife that kills him, with him mistakenly dropping his guard he also takes extreme damage
In the code of the Dead ringer it always fails under three conditions, a fully charged headshot, a backstab or a taunt kill
OR
Let's say sans has a **** tonne of health, let's say the knife isn't a backstab and just does infinite damage and lastly let's say the Dead Ringer halves damage, half of infinite > any set of health value that isn't also infinite
ALSO also lets say the knife isn't even involved www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRHOOH2MiZc sans drops his guard and in the world of undertale that's faithful, Muffet, Papyrus, Toriel and Glad Dummy Also you during the fight with sans all die instantly because they stop fighting. So even if its not the knife that kills him, with him mistakenly dropping his guard he also takes extreme damage
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] 'Backstabs deal damage equal to 200% of the target's current health and always deal critical hits (increasing the damage to 600% of the target's current health)' the only way to not be critted with basicly with the battalion's backup
Secondly, Deadringer can not just outright prevent death if the number is high enough, that includes backstabs, headshots and taunt kills
So lets say sans health is 1, a backstab is going to do 2 damage + 4 Crit damage
(and for ease) DR blocks 50% that's 1 - 3 = dead
Now lets say sans has 1 + sleep health, backstab does 2 + sleep health*2 + 4 crit + sleep health *4
x*6 - x = dead
Also as someone who has died on low health and backstabs with the dead ringer out i know what im saying
Secondly, Deadringer can not just outright prevent death if the number is high enough, that includes backstabs, headshots and taunt kills
So lets say sans health is 1, a backstab is going to do 2 damage + 4 Crit damage
(and for ease) DR blocks 50% that's 1 - 3 = dead
Now lets say sans has 1 + sleep health, backstab does 2 + sleep health*2 + 4 crit + sleep health *4
x*6 - x = dead
Also as someone who has died on low health and backstabs with the dead ringer out i know what im saying
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] I JUST came from a game, got backstabbed with dead ringer and am dead
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] I have been using the wiki, the wiki even says the dead ringer loses to Backstabs
And no that wasn't me dieing to luck, that was me going out to prove that the DR does not win (its been update since spy vs sniper)
And no that wasn't me dieing to luck, that was me going out to prove that the DR does not win (its been update since spy vs sniper)
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Dead_Ringer
Upon activation, the Cloak meter will immediately drop to 50%, and the Spy will receive a 3 second speed boost. During these first 3 seconds of cloak, the Spy takes reduced damage and the cloak will not flicker on contact with enemies or upon being shot. Intitially the Spy takes 65% less damage, this effect is faded over time to normal cloak and 20% damage reduction when 3 seconds has passed. This damage reduction allows the player to survive some massive damage as long as the user has a sufficient amount of Health before the attack was made with exception of fully charged headshots by Snipers, backstabs from enemy Spies, and Taunt kills. During the first 3 seconds of cloak the Spy is immune to afterburn (this was not mentioned in the patch notes and might be a bug).
I am currently, right now, most resent update, playing the game, dead ringer in no way saves you from back stabs
Upon activation, the Cloak meter will immediately drop to 50%, and the Spy will receive a 3 second speed boost. During these first 3 seconds of cloak, the Spy takes reduced damage and the cloak will not flicker on contact with enemies or upon being shot. Intitially the Spy takes 65% less damage, this effect is faded over time to normal cloak and 20% damage reduction when 3 seconds has passed. This damage reduction allows the player to survive some massive damage as long as the user has a sufficient amount of Health before the attack was made with exception of fully charged headshots by Snipers, backstabs from enemy Spies, and Taunt kills. During the first 3 seconds of cloak the Spy is immune to afterburn (this was not mentioned in the patch notes and might be a bug).
I am currently, right now, most resent update, playing the game, dead ringer in no way saves you from back stabs
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] The same can be said on your article
I just came from a game, this most update, valve server, got backstabbed 3 different times and died to all 3
The math is there to support it, 125*2 + crit damage(125*4)
The dead ringer does not protect you from backstabs, test and coded not to.
I just came from a game, this most update, valve server, got backstabbed 3 different times and died to all 3
The math is there to support it, 125*2 + crit damage(125*4)
The dead ringer does not protect you from backstabs, test and coded not to.
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dndxplain ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-] uh...
it's (target health * 200)*3 backstabs are always crits, but do x3 damage instead of x2. this can not be blocked by the battalion's backup.
Either the deadringer just recently got nerfed which would explain the buff that's coming out, or you're super ******* wrong.
it's (target health * 200)*3 backstabs are always crits, but do x3 damage instead of x2. this can not be blocked by the battalion's backup.
Either the deadringer just recently got nerfed which would explain the buff that's coming out, or you're super ******* wrong.
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] I am literally playing the game right now, the dead ringer for a while haven't saved you from headshots and backstabs for a while
also yes im aware i might be fuking up my math there but it still adds up to 600% damage the DR can't block
also yes im aware i might be fuking up my math there but it still adds up to 600% damage the DR can't block
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dndxplain ONLINE (12/20/2015) [-] the deadringer still blocks against head shots as long as they are not fully charged. it's never blocked fully charged headshots.
this is because headshots always crit for four times the damage, unless the target has any form of damage reduction, which completely nullifies the crit.
a fully charged headshot will kill absolutely any class in one hit, regardless of any outside sources. this includes a completely overhealed heavily.
Backstabs are very special cases with only a few ways to block them. as I said, this buff would have to be recent (as in within a month). because deadringer would completely reduce the damage, removing the multiplication and crit elements (essentially doing 100% of your current health with the damage reduction added on to that.)
that being said, it's still entirely reasonable to make this joke, which is stupid to be arguing over in the first place.
this is because headshots always crit for four times the damage, unless the target has any form of damage reduction, which completely nullifies the crit.
a fully charged headshot will kill absolutely any class in one hit, regardless of any outside sources. this includes a completely overhealed heavily.
Backstabs are very special cases with only a few ways to block them. as I said, this buff would have to be recent (as in within a month). because deadringer would completely reduce the damage, removing the multiplication and crit elements (essentially doing 100% of your current health with the damage reduction added on to that.)
that being said, it's still entirely reasonable to make this joke, which is stupid to be arguing over in the first place.
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profhershellayton (12/20/2015) [-] -Yes I meant fully charged-
I can't find a date when this update was added tbh, i remember it being for a while, but for all i know it could have been added removed added removed
I can't find a date when this update was added tbh, i remember it being for a while, but for all i know it could have been added removed added removed
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sequel (12/20/2015) [-] If Sans slept then he would have 11hp and you strike him in the chest (butterknife) apparently dealing 9999999 damage so Sans would be hit with 65% of the damage or 6499999.35 damage. This means Sans would be dead and the dead ringer would not activate. I think the fact that he has 1hp due to coding should be true since people had to dig into the Undertale files to find the secrets such as Gaster.
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sphincterface (12/20/2015) [-] I hope that if Hard Mode is ever finished, they keep going with the alternate timeline idea and have it where you can kill Sans earlier in a genocide run, and where Papyrus is the big final boss. I mean, they established that he is much stronger than what lets you believe, it's just that he's too nice to hurt anyone. Imagine what it would be like if he went completely unhinged.
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hierophant (12/21/2015) [-] Much Stronger does not mean Stronger than Asgore or any of the other characters. Just that Papyrus isn't at his full potential. I'm with you though.
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sphincterface (12/21/2015) [-] Well I mean, if Undyne even mentions how impressed she is at how strong Papyrus is, then you know he's strong.
That being said, he wouldn't stand a chance against Asgore for sure, considering that during your fight with Asgore, he is holding back quite a bit and isn't even looking at you the whole time. And his fight while holding back is much tougher than Papyrus's who was also holding back a lot. That being said, the Papyrus fight is actually pretty tough.
Another thing to consider though is that technically Sans is the weakest character in the whole game but is still the hardest. So even considering how powerful some characters are can still not make much of a difference in the fight. But I totally agree with you though.
That being said, he wouldn't stand a chance against Asgore for sure, considering that during your fight with Asgore, he is holding back quite a bit and isn't even looking at you the whole time. And his fight while holding back is much tougher than Papyrus's who was also holding back a lot. That being said, the Papyrus fight is actually pretty tough.
Another thing to consider though is that technically Sans is the weakest character in the whole game but is still the hardest. So even considering how powerful some characters are can still not make much of a difference in the fight. But I totally agree with you though.
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motherfuckingkenji (12/20/2015) [-] Gotta love me some BelowAnecdote.
I wish there were more to the game, though.
I wish there were more to the game, though.
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fazbear (12/20/2015) [-] I love Undertale as much as I love FNaF.
And I love Papyrus more than both of those things.
And I love Papyrus more than both of those things.
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australiumwrench (12/21/2015) [-] Then some random whiney person sees your comment, and now you represent the entire fanbase... why are people like this
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anon (12/21/2015) [-]
Oh look. Under Autism.
AUTOMATIC THUMB DOWN.
Back to my gay pride posts. Much better then this garbage.
AUTOMATIC THUMB DOWN.
Back to my gay pride posts. Much better then this garbage.
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justsans (12/24/2015) [-] *Hey look, admin has added a new cool feature! You can block channels.
*It's made especially for those like you, who just don't want to accept the fact that things they don't like exist.
*Here's how you do it: you go to the channel's url, then you click the "block channel's content" button.
*Crazy right?
*Well, take care.
*It's made especially for those like you, who just don't want to accept the fact that things they don't like exist.
*Here's how you do it: you go to the channel's url, then you click the "block channel's content" button.
*Crazy right?
*Well, take care.
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justsans (12/24/2015) [-] *Hm
*Well i guess it does indeed fit better in that case
*Allthough isn't it a bit extrememe swearing just because you see content you can easily skip?
*Well really the point i'm making here is that he's not just simply annoyed.
*I'd call it advancely annoyed.
*Anyways, yeah the wording was pretty poor.
*Well i guess it does indeed fit better in that case
*Allthough isn't it a bit extrememe swearing just because you see content you can easily skip?
*Well really the point i'm making here is that he's not just simply annoyed.
*I'd call it advancely annoyed.
*Anyways, yeah the wording was pretty poor.
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bluemagebrilly (12/20/2015) [-] The lamp one got me... Wasn't sure how to feel about the Rocking Papyrus though.
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hungrycheeseburger (12/21/2015) [-]
haven't played under tale still but like under tale content
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anon (12/21/2015) [-] **anonymous used "*roll picture*"**
**anonymous rolled image** Get your stupid cancer game tf off my internet
**anonymous rolled image** Get your stupid cancer game tf off my internet
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buddywuggle (12/29/2015) [-] I'm conflicted. That roll is funny as hell, yet it's text is anon being cringe like always.
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buddywuggle (12/29/2015) [-] I suppose I wont green or red. there should be a grey thumb in the middle for things like this.
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purdon (12/20/2015) [-] I thought the title was underfoot.
So now I have the song Trampled Under Foot by Led Zeppelin stuck in my head.
So now I have the song Trampled Under Foot by Led Zeppelin stuck in my head.
