yeah, the only challenges in the game are in genocide run fighting undyne and sans.
That is, if you know what to do. I died to asgore because i tried to ACT instead of flinging my pacifistic noodle arms at him
probably need to off her, not sure unless you can somehow just dump enough money she stops fighting you, which I'm not sure is possible. I don't even know if that is a possible. You could always just restart. Game is not ridiculously long so you can probably speedrun it up to that point.
I originally thought the first time I fought asgore that I was supposed to just keep talking and dodging until he stops, because if you talk to him enough, you get the message: "All you can is FIGHT". I actually had to look up what to do because I was so scared of killing him, aka Toriel crit
That is the only thing they do.
You don't just go from making bad jokes through a door to loving each other.
Not to mention sans is some weird demi-god who has both seen and done some ****** up **** .
So if I walk up to a random girl, make a joke, and she laughs, that apparently means that we are perfect for each other.
No talking, just jokes.
I think you need the refund, buddy.
Id say its atrongly implied that they talked outside of just making jokes, as well as formed an emotional bond. You dont go to the same spot every day without at least being mildy interested in who you are talking to. They found comfort in each other, even if they never saw eachother.
Using an example of walking up to a random stranger and making bad jokes agains a pair of people who went to the same spot every day to keep eachother company is ******* retarded. Who knows what less they talked about, or how long this whole thing went on?
Not to mention that she asked a favor that went against every instinct of Sans. He sayd clearly that if it werent for Toriel youd be ******* dead. He would have ******* dunked your ass. But because he cares about the bond that he formed with this person on the other side of the door, he held his hand.
You are really goddamn dumb if you belive what you say.
Like, if someone said "you have to shoot one of your kids or we're shooting both" and then they said "You have to choose if Toriel gets together with Sans or Asgore" I'd take a longer time decid... oh **** it.
I'm sorry, I don't know where I'm going with this.
They are 20 years into a marriage and still madly in love with each other and just had twins together, mind you the twins make their 4th and 5th child together.
Age is not a boundary when it come to love honestly.
You aren't entitled to video games
Video games are a luxury
If you cannot afford a luxury, you either save up money (a whopping $10 in this case, a.k.a single hour's pay stocking shelves at Walmart) or you go without. I ******* love sushi and wish I could have some right now, but good sushi is expensive so instead of stealing sushi and telling the restaurant that I'll just pay them back later, I will wait until I can afford sushi and in the meantime I'll just eat something cheaper. Exact same deal with video games.
I hate that this seriously needs to be explained to people, that there are people in this world who think that supporting an indie dev who makes games those people love is less important than their instant gratification. It doesn't matter if Toby's sold a million copies of his game already or just one, your support or lack thereof is a direct indication as to whether or not you want more of those games to be made, and refusing to wait until you can afford a game to play it is beyond childish.
Or you can dl it and if you feel its good just buy it
Wouldnt pay for a **** game, but a good one i would support, how i did with the mass effect series
If there's a game with no demo and you decide to pirate it and demo it, that's fine as long as you only play it for a little while. If you pirate it and decide you like it, buy it immediately or you're just a leech.
That isn't what was being suggested here, though. The guy I replied to was just telling destroyer to pirate the game. Undertale has a demo, so there is no acceptable excuse for pirating it. Normally I feel bad when I get red thumbs, but in this case I honestly don't care because the only people who are gonna thumb me down are either leeches in denial or people who don't understand the concept of delayed gratification and think that video games are a right, and the opinions of people like that aren't worth my attention.
Except he was implying pirate it now and pay for it when you have the money
You dont owe game developers **** , but if you like the game you downloaded, support it
If it was **** then you shouldnt pay for it anyway
It sounds lazy perhaps, but i would rather play the game now, and then pay for it when i can, instead of waiting until i can pay and maybe forgetting it
Theres a difference between games and sushi anyway, the developer doesnt lose anything cause you took a copy of the game, the way you say it is like if the developer made the game just for you and you took it without paying
And the people that dont buy the game even if they liked it are ********** that wasnt gonna buy it in the first place, so no lost sale there
See, I knew people were gonna keep repeating what's stated in your first sentence. "Pirate it now and pay when you have the money" is such a *******spoiled thing to say. That isn't how luxuries work. The whole statement is based on the idea that video games are a right, not a privilege, when the truth is Video games are a privilege, not a right. You are not entitled to them.
Do people deserve to know what they're buying before they buy it? Yes. But Undertale lets you know exactly what you're buying via the official demo, so there is no need to pirate the game in order to know what it's like. Beyond that, you don't deserve Undertale. Your continued physical and mental well-being is not dependent upon whether or not you own the game. Owning the game is a privilege for people who put in the work and save up the money to afford it, not a right for everyone.
tl;dr saying "I'll buy it when I can" doesn't work for any other luxury in existence and it doesn't apply to video games either. If you really cannot get that through your head, then it's best we just stop talking.
You're not entitled to anything
There are things you can acquire and things you cant
How you morally see how you acquire it and if you should is up to you
My moral view is that a good game deserves to be bought, and a **** game shouldnt be
I dont deserve jack **** , but that doesnt mean i cant enjoy it
You dont get things because you deserve them, the world isnt perfect dude
Yeah the world isn't perfect, but that doesn't mean we can't have some principles. I was raised to believe that if someone's starving, they deserve food and water, if someone's suffering from exposure to the elements they deserve shelter, and beyond that if someone wants something, they better have the means to acquire it themselves. As a kid my family didn't have a lot of money to blow on me, so I got used to the concept of wanting games and just not being able to have them. Instead of being handed everything I wanted, my family taught me to just appreciate the things I did have and to be willing to wait for the things that were beyond our means at the time (instead of just stealing them and swearing I'd pay for them someday), and that's shaped who I am today.
I find pirates to be disgusting, spoiled, entitled leeches that represent a cancer on the video game industry, and that's never gonna change.
People like you make me feel proud for pirating things.
The salt on you is real.
Yes, I pirated Undertale. Yes, I loved it. And yes, even if I completed it, I will buy it because whoever made it deserves the money.
Is naïve to think that we should pay for things we don't know we'll like, or that demos are enough to see what the game is about.
But hey, to call a 80% of the population leeches and scum just for pirating things is a pretty moralfag thing to do. I really enjoy how mad you get for this **** . I want to thank you because every time I pirate something, I will remember you and laught, because some retarded kid doesn't like pirating.
To be honest i dont really care how you see it, i know its an illegal act
But that doesnt really matter to me dude, your morals are yours and yours alone, not everyone in the world can see things the way you do
My principles are the way i see the world, and thus they are based on what i feel is fair
Me paying later is basically me borrowing the game until i pay for it
Besides, pirating is a means to acquire it yourself, if you disagree then you must feel that if you dont find the seeds and sow them yourself you cant have anything based on wheat, there are shortcuts to things because its convenient you know
This isnt relevant to the pirating thing, since you cant be starved for games
But how would you judge a person that robs another man to be able to afford food for his family?
Depends. If the man lived in my country I'd judge him pretty harshly, because we kind of have a whole government system in place to ensure that poverty-stricken families can get food, partly to prevent the scenario you described and partly because the people that make the laws around here see eye to eye with me on the matter- I literally just said that if someone is starving, they deserve food. Also, comparing not growing my own food to not paying for games makes literally no sense. I pay people to grow food for me and I pay people to make games for me, because I am neither a farmer nor a game developer.
Ultimately I guess it doesn't matter what either of us thinks. The law agrees with me, and I'm fine with that.
My point with the man being that he was willing to hurt others for it, thus making him a criminal
The comparing thing was about how pirating apparently wasn't a way to acquire it for yourself
I know pirating is illegal, but i dont think that its immoral if you have a moral standard yourself
Just dling every game youre interested in and never buying any, thats just being an asshole, otherwise i dont really care, not like the game developers are in the deep brown and my pirating is gonna hurt them cause they didnt get the money now
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I get in a debate with admiralen and he responds to my points with well-worded counterpoints, doesn't resort to namecalling, and generally acts in a mature manner. You on the other hand insult me, make statements with no other purpose than to try and piss me off, and then immediately block me so I can't reply
Forgive me if I only find one of you to have an opinion worth respecting
What part of "don't annoy me" you did not get? This is the reason I blocked you, can't you accept rejection? Yes, both questions are rethorical, please don't answer.
I didn't even read this comment. I just don't care mate.
But I'd make you a favour, read the last line, and say:
Well dude, not that nobody cares about what you find respectable, your morals are ****** up anyway. Now please make both of us a favor, and hush.
If I wanted to buy this game, I'd have to work 17 hours. If I wanted to buy the average $60 game, it'd cost me over 100 hours of minimum wage labour, at a whopping $0.58 per hour. So I'm beyond childish for not waiting 5 more years until I can emigrate before playing any games.
Yes. You have access to the internet, meaning there are a vast number of free sources of entertainment literally a single Google search away. Maybe there aren't any libraries where you are, though I doubt it, but if there aren't - ever hear of Project Gutenberg? All sorts of legally free books on there that thousands if not millions of people without access to video games managed to entertain themselves with. I've downloaded a few books from there myself, they're an excellent way to pass the time. If you absolutely have to play some sort of video game - ever hear of websites like Armor Games and Kongregate? They have all sorts of ****************** games for you to play. Sure they aren't as good as triple A titles and the like... but as I keep saying over and over again, video games are not a right. My ****** Honda isn't as good as some rich dude's Lamborghini, but I don't complain because I know owning a ******* Lamborghini is a privilege for people who can afford it, not a right.
There are tons and tons of ways to entertain yourself, if you actually want to spend a bunch of time entertaining yourself instead of, I dunno, looking for a way to improve your situation so that you can get to a place where you don't have to work 16 hours to earn $10. So yes, stealing a luxury item that you don't need to survive, just because you think you're entitled to it somehow? That is childish.
Fun characters. Cliche, but well-done story. Some feels. Gameplay's got a nice little twist, where you don't have to actually kill anything that attacks you. I can't say if it's worth getting or not, because it depends on what you look for in a game. If those things seem like something you'd like, try it.