So... whattcha think? Some people consider undertale "cancerous enough", but now Pewdiepie will play it... Will it be good, bad, or it wont change anything? (ya know, every video he uploads has like 2 or 3 million views...)
I'm ok with it. As long as he plays it with... a respect of kind. I've seen him play story bases games It was a phase, ok?! and he usually brings the comedy down to a mundane level. Any blood near a woman? "OOHH NOOO SHEE'S ON HER PERIOD!!!"
Guy gets stabed in the stomache? "NOOOO NOT MY PEEEENIIIIS!!"
Also i'm about 90% positive that penis jokes will be non-stop once he dates Papyrus (if he even plays a pacifist route).
All i'm mainly hoping for is that this isn't the event that tips this fandom into full on cancer. Its not as bad as people say it is at the moment, but this could be a major blow... Inb4 anon says "The fandom has always been cancer you ****
In all seriousness, why be such an ass. I know you're just gonna be thinking "hah lol I totally trolled everybody" when I ask this.
But it is just such a dick move over all and we both know you wouldn't like it if someone ruined something for you.
I know I'm talking to deaf ears but I just felt like saying it, hoping you at least try to understand.
he stickied the han solo spoiler in text, then later unstickied it when he started getting blasted in the comments. but now a different spoiler is stickied, luckily that one is longer and can be avoided.
and since he basically spoiled the biggest plot twist in the movie i went to check out what the movie was about since i already payed for my bloody ticket. i'm not blaming the faggot for spoiling the plot of the entire movie, i'm just blaming him fot the most important part. the rest of the plot isn't really all that exciting to be honest.
this is weird as **** .
I told this to some kid at school, that the badguy would stab Solo in the back with a lightsaber did not mention father son relationship
But i never evn saw the movie.
You are the absolute worst peice of sub-human garbage on earth.
"It's working!" Says the faggot behind the screen who disabled his profile. " Now maybe mommy will buy me a house and dad will stop making me touch his pee-pee!"
You shouldn't be allowed to live.
People have waited nearly two years for this movie, and you go and do this **** ? Man, you are ******* pathetic. If ruining people's experiences is how you get your ******* kicks, you really do need to ove out of your mothers basement. We get it, your father is also your uncle and you look like a cross between shrek and quazimodo. But you can atleast join a freakshow so youre not completely worthless to society. Tell me how he dies, youve spoiled it to the point of where i dont ******* care. Now go suck your dads dick for the fifth time today, I can hear him walking from here.
Pewdipie is my nations (sweden if you didnt know) pride. Dont you dare trsh talk pewdz, our national treassure. i'd let him brofist me if you catch my drift ;)
Sweden is always succesful. Please tell me more about my country you straight uo ******* moron. Wikipedia and 4chan isnt reliable sources you ******* retard.
**Sevenseas used "*roll picture*"** **Sevenseas rolled image**The fandom is cancerous as **** , have you seen half the **** you guys produce? It's bad, it's worse then the ******* frog meme (read as me me because **** all your stupid as me mes).
Yes but aren't most fandoms cancer when it's at its peak of popularity, it could be way worse and unlike mlp there is a reason it's popular and not because it's ironic to like it and then people try to validate themselves and begin actually liking it then spread it around like its the common cold despite the said thing being something meant for kids. Undertale is a story and people enjoy it, your aloud to be annoyed by its spam but it's spammed because a lot of people like it, let it calm gown abit before saying it's completely cancer
I watched some of his things back when i was 16, mostly it was boring but he had 1 mod to a horror game that i though was funny and his new dark souls and bloodbourne videos was enjoyable however everything else is just " le raep xDDDD"
Also i hate how he randomly puts a video of his dog in the video to try make a video funny when the dog was mixed in without context
Pewdiepie used to be funny in, like, 2007.
But his humour and playstyle even then....
it's not good for story based games.
He's the anti-cry, ignoring everything, talking through dialogue and cracking ****** jokes .
I think back then he hadn't sold out to disney. I watched one of his recent videos and he refuses to swear because his audience is all 8 year olds now.
His humour is literally catering to 8 year olds.
And maybe I was a ****** retard back then. All I ever watched were those ****** machinimas.
I don't care for Pewds one way or the other. I hate listening to him talk, and the way he says his youtube name, but whatever that's just me. As for undertale, I couldn't care less about it.
In conclusion, I don't care about this, but I felt like commenting.
Seriously do not understand what this all is about. It's a good game. All fanbases are pretty retarded. How is this different from literally anything popular?
It's "Indie." Any popular game under a certain developer count is considered cancer.
Undertale isn't even indie tho, the credits list is ******* massive on that thing.
Theres cancer in the community, ill admit, but there's alot of good in it too, the good stuff is rarely posted on FJ since its usually full series, examples, Swaptale, or Sans Time Line Journal. There's also fans who will put it where it doesn't belong, but theres also alot who just stick to themselves and in their own clicks, such as r/undertale, so the only people we ever see are the finatics.So i don't think its fair to judge the whole fan base on a small percentage of it.
Well, it's a mouth full to say, "The fanbase except for a few who aren't". When I say, "The fanbase is pretty cancerous", of course I don't mean all of them. But the majority, yeah.
Its not the majority, its just theres alot of fans, alot of them just stay togeather and dont really expand, so the only ones who are outgoing seems cancerous and make the whole fan base look bad.
For that matter there's nothing wrong with the fanbases, just individuals in them. The whole is fine. The only fandom I've seen that defeats that is Steven Universe. Which is a shame because it's a great show if you ignore the obvious feminist overtones. But literally the majority of its 'active fandom' are comprised of the ONLY fanbase I'd say ever qualifies as 'cancer'.
The other fandoms are fine. Most of the people in them are fine. FJ just likes complaining about **** it doesn't know much about.
Hadn't realized there was distinct social difference between being a fan of something and being a member of a fanbase.
I was more looking at the grouping as whole including people who like something but don't necessarily talk about it much or make content for it.
Guess that's what makes you part of a fanbase to begin with.
Ok for starters I never understand this "I like this thing but generally(inb4 I said none individual) dislike other people that like it" mentality.
It just sounds kind of hypocritical when you disassociate yourself from a fanbase that you also admit you are a part of.
Isn't just anything that becomes popular cancerous?
Isn't it just generally a handful of over obsessive and loud people that do all the dumb **** and post cringy **** while the others just enjoy their thing and talk about their thing with others who also like their thing?
I'm also a part of the human race, but dislike a big portion of it.
No, it's not just a handful. The majority of the fanbase of Undertale obsesses over it too much. Have you not seen all the posts on here about, "Go to gamefaqs and vote this the best game evar!" The majority of the fanbase is cringy, and the minority not.
I made one of those posts, the entire reason a lot of people were doing it was because the amount of salt produced from fans of SSB Melee and other diehard bostaligic fanboys like Legend of Zelda fanatics for Ocarina of Time, in getting beaten by a random indie game a good few people irrationally hate, which honestly shouldn't have cleared nominations.
It was a trolling attempt to say say the least. Rigging Polls is the oldest trick in the book, and 4chan has been doing it for over a decade, with acts like getting Moot to be be considered the most influential person to live in the "Marblecake, also The Game" raid.
Almost nobody takes internet polls seriously, and those that do are the people the laughs are being had at the expense of, when they're almost always rigged.
Schadenfreude feels good to be honest. Some people who don't even like Undertale claimed they were voting for it just to rustle people's jimmies, since their favorite game already lost in another bracket.
Nobody got physically hurt, nor singled out and emotionally/socially abused, like the Steven Universe fiasco; I mean, there's no real harm done, the only people who got mad are those that chose to be irrationally angry about it.
Slinging **** and havin the 'bants about one's personal tastes in entertainment media is basically the internet's favorite past time. No harm, no foul, since it REALLY doesn't matter, but people get cranked up by ot none the less.
A few people (or a lot, don't know) actually only voted Undertale for the salt. I did too, though I actually voted for the other game if I truly loved it more than Undertale.
>"Go to gamefaqs and vote this the best game evar!"
No I didn't notice that I guess.
I do remember how popular the content for it was on here up until recently.
He's mentioned in a few videos that he plans on doing it all in two big videos. One Pacifist run video and one Genocide run video. It'll only take like 3 years to render when he actually does it.
So, I watched a few videos from him, and he just isn't funny. He doesn't understand comedic timing. He also turns into a massive pussy at the slightest "scary" movement. I watched him play a 2d horror game and he got scared by one of the enemies just walking.
However, I understand that he must be doing something right to have such a massive fanbase and I just haven't found it yet.
It's funny for a while before you realize it's their "shtick" and they're milking it for all it's got. That's the moment you can never unsee the forced, unfunny nature of every "over-reacting" letsplayer
Most americans seems to love to act sentimental thought. Whenever i look at an obnoxius american letsplayer he talks all the damn time and cries whenever he hit a dog with the car.
Anybody who worries about whether a fanbase is "cancerous" has the mental faculties of a grade schooler. Who cares what Pewdiepie plays? Watch him or don't. Who cares about Undertale? Play it or don't. Any other course of action, like making content about it on FJ like it's news-worthy, is the only thing that's cancerous. All this Us vs. Them ********* does is make gaming, anime, and other Internet sub-culture more toxic and less fun. You think your opinions are informed, of a high standard, and overall just plain superior, but it's really just an escalating arms race of who can be the most hyperbolic asshole, hate the most things, and **** on the most people. If you actually hated Pewdiepie, like genuinely disliked who he is and what he does, you wouldn't ADVERTISE HIS NEXT ******* VIDEO ON AN INTERNET FORUM!
>All this Us vs. Them ********* does is make gaming, anime, and other Internet sub-culture more toxic and less fun.
Level with me for a second:
Pewdiepie does what he does for money. He does not care about Undertale. It's become a cult classic in a short time, and all it is, is publicity to try to cash in on more viewers who give him money.
His fans have utterly no interest in Undertale, nor will they care to take the time to understand it's qualities that the rest of the community enjoys it for. All they will care about is that thier god-king Felix played it and spouted out ****** irrelevant jokes.
You're right in that the point of the community is to keep it fun for other people in the community long after the content of rhe game has been completed. But the community being flooded by people who do not care about Undertale, who do not care to understand Undertale, will do nothing but make it less fun for the earnest members of the community.
The community should be a friendly place for people to enjoy themselves in, but a certain amount of gatekeeping and quality control is just common sense to give security to the fun of the people who were already there.
You wouldn't and shouldn't let a registered sex offender into Chuck E. Cheese. Excuse the exaggerated metaphor but it's best I have. That's common sense gatekeeping.
Likewise, the last thing the Undertale community needs --one already hated by most outsiders-- is to be filled with posers by someone looking to for monetary gain. If the community becomes unbearable to even us, then where left do we have to go?
This... is surprisingly well thought out. Thing is... as an Undertale fan myself, I know we can't win that "war." As with everything else on the internet, nothing is sacred. More importantly... No one's taking the game away from you. Or the friends you made and share it with due to it. You as a person aren't changing, just the overall view others have of your interest. And so what? Eventually, you'll tire of it and it'll be a fond memory and not much else. Just like everything you enjoyed as a kid. It's in your nature to move on and grow. Just... enjoy what you get from it for now, ok? It was, and still is a great game, with memorable characters. Take it at face value and smile because you got to experience it, and still can. Don't push it on people who don't want it, and ignore the people who give you **** for talking about it. People are capable of politely declining conversations about it. If they don't give you that tiny common courtesy, then they're not worth talking to anyways. As for PewDiePie.... he's not stopping. He won't stop. He steps on artwork and garbage alike with little differentiation and makes farting noises while doing it. It's his job to be a horrible person on camera. Little kids are his target audience and he knows that. A lot like a clown.... the people who take him seriously aren't really the smartest.
Well you see that's the thing, the game isn't going to be taken from us, but for many of us, there's no point in continuing the game itself. The community is largely conversing hypothetical what-if scenarios in the forms of these fan comics we contantly share, and accentuating the parts of the game we enjoyed through that. There's not necessarily friends made that we would be able to easily find and commune with privately should the community actually fall apart from an influx of very differently behaving outsiders, which is why I'm so concrete about the community needing to be consistent. I love all of the autistic ************* that join me in *********** and theorizing Undertale and it would be impossible for me to track them all, should the community somehow collapse.
But thanks for your advice, everything has to eventually die, I'd juat prefer it be with a happy wimper instead of a hellish bang, to leave the memories fonder.
I kinda feel sorry for Felix though, it's like he's stuck in clown hell.
I'll be real with you. I played the game twice. Two 3 to 4 hour sessions. Once neutral. Then pacifist. I have not touched it since. Because i have gotten all I want out of the subject material for now. I may go back and play it some time, but only for nostalgia, updates, and picking something apart. The sheer joy of playing it for the first time is over. And that's ok. It doesn't mean I don't still talk about it. Hell, I masquerade on steam as "Prince Goat Kid" now and again because it's fun to play the part. I don't force it on people or act it out mid game, but if someone gets the reference or plays along, I'll play back. I even create artwork sometimes of it when the mood strikes. Additional fans that I don't agree with won't stop me from doing any of that until I feel I have let this fanaticism run its' course. The community won't die just because of some pewdiepie kids. If anything, it'll grow. People aren't ironclad archetypes in fleshy suits. They may see the community how it is and conform to it. Not all of them will, but a large number will.
As for Felix...? He's rich. He doesn't care what people think of him. Don't feel bad for him; He made money by playing off of the easiest audience in the world.
"Pewdiepie does what he does for money. He does not care about Undertale. It's become a cult classic in a short time, and all it is, is publicity to try to cash in on more viewers who give him money. "
Pewdiepie does what he does for money, like literally everybody else on the planet who has a job. That doesn't mean he doesn't care about video games, just because he is essentially paid to play them. If he's going to play Undertale, it's probably because he's heard about it and likes what he's heard, like most people who played Undertale. He's a pretty cool, normal guy, who just happens to have become financially well-off in a weird, new way that our technology has only recently made possible. He also donates a ton of money to charity and works with charitable organizations. He's just some dude who got lucky, not Satan.
"His fans have utterly no interest in Undertale, nor will they care to take the time to understand it's qualities that the rest of the community enjoys it for. All they will care about is that thier god-king Felix played it and spouted out ****** irrelevant jokes."
That's kind of a big, dumbass generalization to make about several million people. I've watched a few of his videos, liked his Amnesia and Happy Wheels videos, but not much else. I think he's a fun guy and a good person. So, arguably, I'm a fan. I care about Undertale. Not enough to play it any time soon, but I've pieced together enough of it to gain a substantial appreciation for its charm and design goals, and its place in video gaming as an art piece.
"You're right in that the point of the community is to keep it fun for other people in the community long after the content of rhe game has been completed. But the community being flooded by people who do not care about Undertale, who do not care to understand Undertale, will do nothing but make it less fun for the earnest members of the community. "
Again, stupid generalization, especially considering the only people among Pewdiepie's fans who get involved in the community will probably be people who saw it, liked it, and decided to try it for themselves. How are they less of a fan of Undertale than you just because they heard about it from a particular source? How would your dedication be superior and more genuine than theirs? That's pretension talking. Stop it. Don't be a cunt.
"The community should be a friendly place for people to enjoy themselves in, but a certain amount of gatekeeping and quality control is just common sense to give security to the fun of the people who were already there. "
Ban people from your forums or blogs who actually break the rules. Don't **** all over people who are new and haven't taken as many blue pills as you, yet. Again, don't be a cunt. A lack of, and in fact an opposition to, inclusiveness is still a huge problem in many fandoms like video games, tabletop games, anime, and other niche communities. The solution is to stop being part of the problem. It's an indy game. Not everybody has heard of it yet. Your appreciation of it isn't somehow better just because you heard of it first.
"You wouldn't and shouldn't let a registered sex offender into Chuck E. Cheese. Excuse the exaggerated metaphor but it's best I have. That's common sense gatekeeping."
So, you recognize that it's a bad metaphor, but still use it, anyway? Don't be stupid. New fans aren't pedophiles. They just aren't as immersed or invested as you, at least not yet. Treating them like lepers will discourage them. That's how you create trolls and a poor impression of a fandom, then word of mouth takes its natural course.
"Likewise, the last thing the Undertale community needs --one already hated by most outsiders-- is to be filled with posers by someone looking to for monetary gain. If the community becomes unbearable to even us, then where left do we have to go?"
I think my other replies have illustrated why this is a ******* retarded mode of thinking. But, if not, feel free to ask.
As does almost anyone else looking to boost their PR. Any time someone brings up that Pewdiepie is **** , someone goes "he donates to charity" and people do the golf clap and some actually go to get sucked into his ****** , cancerous fandom.
Not everyone donates to charity because they have pure intentions. Most don't. Especially if you KNOW they're doing it. That means they want people to know what they're doing. "Look at me I'm doing the nice guy things!" PR, all of it. It's not like he earned that much money in the first place. Least he could do is give most of it away.
Nothing makes it different. Dumbassed ***** are just looking for reasons to hate, especially if they get more material to hate on BY remaining ignorant. Majority of bronies don't **** with anyone and just want to be left alone/not shat on. Majority of UT fans just want to enjoy their community and not be attacked.
Neither of them got what they wanted. Both have been blown apart to hell and back by every edgy hipster asshole on the internet who wants to look cool by hating what everyone else hates, using the awkward actions of the extreme minority to justify their hatred to people who aren't hating on that **** yet.
"Like what we like or go kill yourselves." is the message of channers and FJers alike.
Theres cancer in the community, ill admit, but there's alot of good in it too, the good stuff is rarely posted on FJ since its usually full series, examples, Swaptale, or Sans Time Line Journal. There's also fans who will put it where it doesn't belong, but theres also alot who just stick to themselves and in their own clicks, such as r/undertale, so the only people we ever see are the finatics.So i don't think its fair to judge the whole fan base on a small percentage of it. The main reason this is a bad thing is that the people who just like the game and wanna share content will be represented even worse by the large influx of cancer fans, just throwing fuel into the fire that the whole Undertale fanbase is **** .
It's not though most reviewers and neutral party's thought that going in but after playing it learn it's not just another 2d game that's overhyped, well before resently anyway.
I knew this would happen... every time something worms its way into me liking it, this **** happens. Guess I'm part of ANOTHER cancerous fanbase. D'oh well.
There is nothing wrong with the fanbase. There's just people TELLING you there's **** wrong with the fanbase. It's essentially a huge hate circlejerk. Every fanbase will have a minority of people who are absolute jackasses (who in many cases are the same people also jerking it in the hate-circle) because every fandom is made of human beings.
The larger the group, the more assholes in it. And since the largest group is the 'normies' who think they're above all this, it stands to logical reason that they have the majority of the kind of people who are used to make fandoms look like **** .
**anonymous used "*roll picture*"** **anonymous rolled image** Now that I think of it, I've never had to deal with Pewdiepie fans.
I've never seen some bratty fanboy **** himself silly trying to defend the guy; nothing I frequent has ever been flooded with asinine Pewdiepie content; his videos don't clog my feed.
It's reached the point that people complaining about Pewdiepie are more annoying than the man himself, simply because I don't see his or his fan's stuff.
I get the feeling that his fanbase isn't as loud and dangerous as we give them credit for.
I stand by my statement. Sure, I think it's the lowest form of entertainment, but they know what to do, how to do it, and when to do it to get the most amount of attention and as a result the most fame. That's a talent.
I say hurry up with it pewdiepie. Think about it, it's near Christmas, people are buying and gifting gifts, small chance Undertale will have a steam winter sale (probably like 10% off at most). The game is friendly to casuals and kids alike. Toby will get lots of money by the end of this year.
The game has already been ill since it's been out, held a few cancer cells known as homestuck. The game also struck luck when it released half a month before october (aka "SPOOKY SKELTAL RIDE LEL") and my how relevant Papyrus and Sans are to that topic. I'm pretty sure everyone has now put Undertale as a semi-cancerous fanbase (like Avatar, they were cancerous like people once said.. but where are they now?) Unless Toby makes a sequel soon enough this game will end with a bang as the tumor pops spreading it's cancer among the new fans who will also die down. Better to do that than simply let Undertale die a slow gradual death.
I predict Undertale will be so cancerous that rolling an undertale image may result in red thumbs almost all the time by February or March 2016. Undertale will die off from the center of attention after the summer of next year. (However, Papyrus and Sans will always revive every October.) This is if Toby doesn't make another sequel or even update Undertale.
So yes, it's bad. At least Toby could make big bucks from the publicity pewdiepie will give to the game though.
So to all fans I say, if it happens at least the dev benefits and who knows maybe it'll bring new fanart, non cringy fanart, maybe it'll arrive at something you never thought i could arrive at. At this point Undertale will disperse it's seeds as the main tree dies.
And to the haters I say.. wait till March and you won't see Undertale as much as you used to, barely in fact. It'll be as common as any other fanart so don't fret about the seeds.