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42 - chaoticlaw on NE H
3 - As someone who' s played the game and discovered the majority of it' s hidden **** , it' s not all everyone is
hyping it up to be. Neither was Melee, but for some reason people make them both out to be life changing
masterpieces. I see people claim that Undertake made them feel **** , but I honestly have a hard time imagining
F that. How can something like this provoke such emotion? And the characters, how are they any different from
an 'itll
what you' d find in any Best anime? The story is great, and the gameplay innovative, but nothing to get worked
up over. I legitimately don' t get it,
Let' s be honest here. Pretty much every single game that' s considered 'best game ever' is just a hype train in some form. The only thing that
separates the legitimacy is how long that train keeps on chuggin'. For exam ple:
please note, I love most/ all ofthose games, l' mjust playin devil' s advocate)
Melee has (now) **** graphics, awkward control responses, and some ofthe most ridiculous sounds I' ever heard.
is an intersting FPS whose only saving grace is an interesting plot, Even then, is Hm had dropped on schedule and the series had
concluded, it wouldn' t be nearly what it is now.
Undertake just came our this year and looks like some of it was drawn by an 8 yearsold. I mean, **** , the protagonist looks like they' had
a stroke when facing the screen (their whole body slumps to the right and there are almost no player animations.
Fallout 3: The Storyline. Mostly cardboard N PCs. Obligatory 'the overworld is so bland it' s practically a wasteland' pun.
lid Pokemon Games: imbalanced typesets, horrifically overpowered monsters (now Ubers), stupidly repetetive pokemon cries, etc.
Anything by Bethesda: ''It' s a feature!"
WNN: Go get bear asses, (nowadays) Go get more bear asses that are lying on the ground and watch a 3 minute cutscene that phases you
out ofthe zone (and from your friends) to watch what should be a world boss tiered NPC get curbstomped by a bunch of trash and a first tier
raid boss.
etc.
etc.
etc.

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#1 - bluemagebrilly (12/17/2015) [+] (4 replies)

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If this is about the Gamefaq's vote thing, then really no one truly cared about that outside the salt forums, as they've been called lately.

Not only was the vote thing entirely rigged to begin with, but it was all 1v1s. That's not how you handle a 'what's the best game ever?' There has to be categories, because not many games are that similar.

Plus with Undertale, most of the games it "beat" there was a huge amount of people saying to not vote for Undertale. Thus, people who have not even played the game voted for Undertale just to spite the people who yelled at them not to. That's it.

It's a good game, but not the best game. Either way, it's best to just take a single grain of salt from Gamefaq's when it comes to taking anything but walkthroughs seriously.

#6 - vorarephilia

(12/18/2015) [-]

except Deus Ex. I've never heard anyone say Deus Ex is bad.

although the rules of the internet dictate that, by my acknowledgement of this observation, there will come someone to nitpick it to death.

#19 to #6 - vikingfaen (12/18/2015) [-]

I played Human Revolution for the first time some time ago, great game but the boss fights were horrific.

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#8 to #6 - djmaryhikineet (12/18/2015) [-]

**djmaryhikineet used "*roll picture*"**
**djmaryhikineet rolled image**the voice acting no matter how funny it is, is bad

#30 to #8 - elementfall (12/19/2015) [-]

A BOMB

#31 to #30 - djmaryhikineet (12/19/2015) [-]

**djmaryhikineet used "*roll picture*"**
**djmaryhikineet rolled image**OH MY GOD JC A BOMB

#32 to #31 - elementfall (12/19/2015) [-]

A bomb 's bad choice for close range combat

#7 - deltoraquest (12/18/2015) [-]

then there's ocarina of time.
The graphics have been dated sure but **** me does it hold up well today. The controls are simple and not that clunky (though kinda demands a learning curve), every character is waifu material, each area has a unique feel and theme to it (including sound design and overall look) finished with a cool as **** boss battle. There's also time travel, music, horse riding, exploration, music, building your arsenal, dungeons, more characters, more music and let's not forget the amazing soundtrack.

Dis game I don't think will ever be forgotten. 10/10 reason why it's top of the list on metacritic if someone makes mention of sequelitis I won't care, as far as I can tell arin just sucks at video games and has lost all credibility from me

#23 to #7 - severepwner (12/18/2015) [-]

>10/10

Yeah you totally seem willing to look at your favorite childhood game critically and objectively. Not having nostalgia goggles at all, no sir.

#28 to #23 - deltoraquest (12/19/2015) [-]

alright let's look at it critically. The world is very open but there's really not much to exploring aside from the outskirts, and even then what you do find is a generic hole in the ground that's either fairys or a chest with rupees. The game itself it very slow in that there's all the cinematics and story being crammed into your face, however I feel a genuine feeling of saving the world when I'm told ****** going down and when I see what happens after becoming an adult, getting to the guy and vanquishing his dumb face makes it all worth it.

I will admit, the characters who stop to talk to you are solely there to spout exposition or controls that you can figure out for yourself or just random tidbits that you're either well aware of, can't care about or is something you could figure out on your own. But the characters that DON'T stop you have actually become some of my favourites, including the lon lon hillbillys, ruto, gerudos, ganondorf and hell even impa.

Of course the fighting is slow as well, but what if you were in the shoes of the enemy, you have a shield so only let your guard down when you want to attack (which is why when you don't shield yourself they attack more often).

All the temples are good, all of them, except the water temple. My personal favourite would be the forest temple, when I was a kid the place ******* spooked the **** out of me and when I got to a room where ****** hands that live in the ceiling come and grab you out of nowhere, I could never go through there again, which in turn has given me a weird bond with that temple...

I actually enjoy the puzzles presented as well, even if it is simply pointing at a diamond in a room with an eye in the middle, because the feeling of finding the puzzle, getting that little jingle and seeing the door open fills me with determination.

overall yes the game is slowly pased and the gameplay is too but atmosphere and cinematic elements (characters, themes, settings, soundtrack) all work which gives me a sense of fullfillment and hype to wherever I go and just all around works.

my actual vote: 8/10 reason why it should atleast be in the top 25 of metacritic

#29 to #28 - deltoraquest (12/19/2015) [-]

I should also add majora's mask fixes everything and is superior to oot in many ways, but oot still has a spot on my shelf.

#13 to #7 - badsamaritan (12/18/2015) [-]

Slap my ass and call me Egoraptor but OOT was boring as ****

#9 to #7 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]

OOT is terrible. the plot is boring and irrelevant, the puzzles and dungeons are simple and also boring, the combat system has none of the pizzazz of earlier zelda games, and the 3d is used poorly. I'll grant you the musical magic system is worthy of remembrance for it's originality, and it's 'open world' feel, but that's about it. "Building your arsenal" is something that exists in literally every zelda game (and, frankly, some of the earlier games like link to the past and minish cap did it better)
I know a lot of people tout it's "awesomeness", but it's still one of my least favorite zelda games. I just felt that it was bland and tedious.

And this is all just gameplay stuff. IDGAF about graphics or sound- a faded diamond is still a diamond and a painted turd is still a turd.

#12 to #9 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]

I disagre with the puzzle part bro...
have you ever seen the water temple?

#18 to #12 - ogomer ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]

It isn't though. If you pay a little attention to what you are doing, what to do next is self explanatory. The only reason some people say it is hard is they become frustrated with the puzzle they are currently at and leave, thus they get stuck trying to find the way back to the puzzle when they realize they were supposed to do it all along.

#17 to #12 - internetexplain (12/18/2015) [-]

it's not hard , the problem with the water temple is precisely what he said , it's boring , have you ever taken a closer look at it? It looks all the same , the water temple is the most repetitively designed dungeon in the entire game , and when everything looks the same you get lost easily.

The Water temple isn't difficult , it's just poorly designed.

#10 to #7 - anon (12/18/2015) [-]

I'd rather plat windwaker than OoT

#2 - evilkingganon (12/17/2015) [-]

**evilkingganon used "*roll picture*"**
**evilkingganon rolled image** no such thing as best game ever seeing as it all based on opinion and those are constantly wrong. If you enjoy a game play it **** what someone else says. I had a buddy that played a viva pinata game and liked it. I called him retarded but he still played it till he lost interest.

#11 - borderlineparanoid (12/18/2015) [-]

Some games hold up but a vast majority really, really don't.

we've all had that moment where we go "OH MAN THIS GAME WAS THE BEST i CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY IT AGAIN" and then you get it and well... you just begrudgingly play it hoping to get the old spark back but then you realize that it's not great after all and you've been blinded by nostalgia.

#27 - totallytito (12/18/2015) [-]

Yet here I am in the glorious "obscure fandom where all of our games are rated 7/10 for containing mechs" master race.
Seriously, we rarely ever get an 8/10 rating even though we have excellent mech simulators with high end graphics and advanced gameplay mechanics.

#20 - vikingfaen (12/18/2015) [-]

Melee awkward control responses? What does that mean?

#26 to #20 - dragonofhoenn (12/18/2015) [-]

It means that the game doesn't always respond the way you expect or want it to. This is most likely due to Melee not having the ability to buffer inputs like the newer games do. Honestly, this is only a problem if you have played Brawl and/or Sm4sh but not Melee or if like me you haven't played Melee in a few years.

#33 to #26 - vikingfaen (12/20/2015) [-]

I play melee probably once a day, so i can't say i notice anything.

#21 - JHoYouKnow (12/18/2015) [-]

That was very poor reasoning. Not convinced at all. There are a lot of mega famous games that have no innovation

#15 - tittylovin (12/18/2015) [-]

That's not what made Half Life 2 good at all.
And that's not what made Undertale bad.

#5 - amuzen (12/18/2015) [-]

This is why i think League of my overall favorite game. It's never been my favorite game of any particular year but it's been on my top five games of the year for 4 years now so for that it wins my heart.

#4 - einsen (12/18/2015) [-]

honestly, every single person has its own favorite, why bother trying to make others feel the same? i dont understand... anyways, undertale is, for me, the best bullet dodging game ive played so far, But to call it the best videogame ever, would mean it has at least 1 part of every genre (sports, racing, life simulator, trading card, sandbox, etc) which it doesnt. Please, some of us love the game, itd be nice if others loved it as well, but if you keep filling this fandom with this kind of rubbish, well i doubt more people will feel motivated to play it.

#16 to #4 - thatoneiranianguy ONLINE (12/18/2015) [-]

It's hard to say this without picturing myself in all black with a turtleneck sweater and a french beret but - the issue is more that the general populace lacks the ability to critically look at pieces of art and accept inherent flaws.

It has never been a problem with people having favorites, it's an issue with people having favorites and not objectively admitting to a piece's faults. One can enjoy mediocrity, everybody does. One of my favorite guilty pleasure movies is The Mummy, and I don't think I need to go into why that movie is objectively poorly made. Realistically one can sit there and probably list more reasons as to why Fallout 4 is objectively a bad game than it is a good game - but because of hype and fanboy mentality it has this "omg 10/10 best game ever" label to it.

Which, this whole issue is again a big problem for games. In the normal world, every either type of art may it be movies or paintings are subjected to often harsh critiques by not just average viewers but industry renown reviewers - however in the gaming industry despite the outcry for demanding that the public accept games as an art form - gamers themselves have not yet accepted the realities and responsibilities that being an art form has with it.

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