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#18 - theannoyingFJguy
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It's not too hard.
User avatar #92 to #18 - hierophant
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Why is there a smudge?
User avatar #82 to #18 - chimpaflimp
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Aww ****; here come the lawyers!
#22 - sventrain
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Just on a side note here. Demoman (Tavish Degroot) has had 100s of jobs and has millions of dollars.
Just on a side note here. Demoman (Tavish Degroot) has had 100s of jobs and has millions of dollars.
User avatar #28 to #22 - nikolaier
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Only a hundred jobs? His mother must be so disappointed.
User avatar #57 to #28 - chrispoot
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I feel sorry for Eyelander tho, ol maam is harrasing that sword
User avatar #25 to #22 - eezo
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Still a jobless bum

HIS FATHER ONCE WALKED 5 MILES IN THE RAIN TO KILL THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND

FOR A NICKLE
User avatar #94 to #25 - kristovsky
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just couldn't make that last 495 miles
#16 - pleasantlybaconii
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Internships, volunteer, hold a position in a club,

You gotta be proactive while you're still in school. Everyone has a degree, you gotta show why you've got what they don't.
User avatar #60 to #16 - hellsjester
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one problem with internships and volunteering. they don't pay the bills..... also no one gives a flying **** about volunteer work or internships (at least in CJ). every job is looking for an "experienced worker", but are not willing to take a week to teach someone the ropes. is it me or is their a huge flaw in this thinking.
User avatar #61 to #16 - nigeltheoutlaw
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Internships are great in theory, and I would love to do one, but I have to work two jobs just to be in college. I don't have time for a nonpaying job just to try and prove that I'm different; if they want a good worker, they'll see that I'm a ******* good worker.
User avatar #133 to #16 - leonhardt
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Wow, exactly what I said would happen, happened!
User avatar #93 to #16 - crimsonsunshine
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that feeling when you get turned down for volunteer work...
User avatar #19 to #16 - mrhazzy
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Most places don't give a flying **** about "volunteer work or work placement schemes etc etc.

If you don't have hard experience in a similar role you are applying for, you may as well slam the door on yourself.
#23 to #19 - bann
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I've never not gotten a job I applied for, it's all about how you portray yourself.
User avatar #24 to #23 - adu
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Where the hell do you live? Cause in Arizona, teens and young adult normally have to apply to 10-20 places to get a job.
#30 to #24 - bann
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In RI where unemployment is about 13% in some parts. I only get the jobs I apply for because I only apply to job that I'm over qualified. I just got a job as a host when I'm a certified restaurant manager in about 2 months.
User avatar #98 to #30 - thebaseballexpert
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>in some places

RI is only 1,200 square miles. there are CITIES that are larger than your state, by far
#115 to #98 - bann
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It's not my state, I just work there. What would that have to do with it though?
User avatar #117 to #115 - thebaseballexpert
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just the fact you said "in some places" for such a small area. It's like "Unemployment for my apartment complex is 10%, but down the street its 13%. Across town there's like 5% though!"
#173 to #117 - bann
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Ehh, still a million people in RI, not bad for a small area. But in the town I applied and got the position, the unemployment rate is 13%
#20 to #19 - brobafett
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>"The world is unfair and people don't care about how hard I- I mean we work!"
>We R Leegin mask

pleasantlybaconii had it right. If you show interest in being a a go getter and proactive you're gonna shine above your peers. Even if the only experience you have is cutting laws and your trying for a part time job at a grocery store. If you show you work in the sun and give an admirable performance, you will be singled out (in a good way). Course, if your applying for a law practice with a culinary arts degree, do as much side stuff as you want, just don't hold your breathe on being a lawyer.
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#65 - falanvaul
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All around my town, I work my ass off, driving around or riding my bike looking for a ******* job. With the rare call of getting an interview, if any at all, all I ever get is "We need someone more qualified."   
   
I'm 19. I've only ever had one job. Working at a FootLocker. I ended up losing that job due to me getting an assistant manager in trouble for not doing her job. At ALL!   
   
She would literally sit in the back and sleep while I did all the work. Then her buddy who was also an assistant manager told me that I did not have work the next day, and this is a guy I trusted. He then proceeds to call me the next day, day I apparently did not work, and said "Dude, where are you? DM is here."    
   
I was pissed. Also, DM is District Manager. The next week I was stock for work, every day I was working and I was happy for that. Then, all my time disappears and my Manager tells me "After that DM thing, we can't keep you on the work list. We'll call you when we need you."    
   
I was so pissed that I just quit right there. The bitch that I got fired even tried to put a claim on me for some sexual ****. I don't know if that's what is keeping me from getting a job now, or not. All I know is that now a days, that's all I hear. "You need more experience."
All around my town, I work my ass off, driving around or riding my bike looking for a ******* job. With the rare call of getting an interview, if any at all, all I ever get is "We need someone more qualified."

I'm 19. I've only ever had one job. Working at a FootLocker. I ended up losing that job due to me getting an assistant manager in trouble for not doing her job. At ALL!

She would literally sit in the back and sleep while I did all the work. Then her buddy who was also an assistant manager told me that I did not have work the next day, and this is a guy I trusted. He then proceeds to call me the next day, day I apparently did not work, and said "Dude, where are you? DM is here."

I was pissed. Also, DM is District Manager. The next week I was stock for work, every day I was working and I was happy for that. Then, all my time disappears and my Manager tells me "After that DM thing, we can't keep you on the work list. We'll call you when we need you."

I was so pissed that I just quit right there. The bitch that I got fired even tried to put a claim on me for some sexual ****. I don't know if that's what is keeping me from getting a job now, or not. All I know is that now a days, that's all I hear. "You need more experience."
User avatar #81 to #65 - thatoneiranianguy
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....so....why not just burn down the footlocker?
User avatar #127 to #81 - falanvaul
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Because I'm a good guy I guess-.
#166 to #65 - anon id: f2b191fe
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So you quit voluntarily, yet you're blaming your lack of a job on your manager.
Lol great logic, kid. Next time don't ragequit over something stupid then expect people to pity you.
#182 to #166 - falanvaul
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Yet I was the hardest worker in that place from the moment I came in. I quit. Yes. I was angry. Yes. I am in no sense a "Kid." That work place was not proper. I told my DM everything that went on there. How for the longest times I was the only one on the work floor, dealing with multiple customers and selling many things, not having people walk in and out alone. How I cleaned up as my job was, fixed all the displays and to my ability did stocking in the back when there were no people on the floor.

You don't know me. You do not know the situation. And guess what? You not logging in alone makes think you know how unpopular that comment will be.
#192 to #182 - HordeyWordey
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We have scientists working around the clock to decipher what the bloody **** you said in that last sentence.
#194 to #192 - falanvaul
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Thank you.
Thank you.
User avatar #184 to #182 - princeofbrokensoul
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dat setence
You not logging in alone makes think you know how unpopular that comment will be.
#185 to #184 - falanvaul
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I derped. Hush
I derped. Hush
#189 to #185 - princeofbrokensoul
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yfw
yfw
#212 to #189 - evilwheatleycore
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#214 to #212 - princeofbrokensoul
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User avatar #215 to #214 - evilwheatleycore
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I have a search with your name in my favorites now
#216 to #215 - princeofbrokensoul
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#187 to #182 - ghostofmikail
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YFW that last sentence.
YFW that last sentence.
#190 to #187 - falanvaul
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YES
YES
#191 to #190 - ghostofmikail
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#186 to #182 - hangingtree
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That last sentence.
That last sentence.
#78 to #65 - delio
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I know that feel bro. I managed one job and that was thanks to my dads connections. Ended up quoting due to nearly the same circumstances and now I can't seem to find this "experience" that employers want that even college graduates can't seem to get either. This system is ******** IMO.
User avatar #128 to #78 - falanvaul
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It is ********. How are you going to have experience if they won't give you a job? I've even resorted to not putting Footlocker on my Applications because I'm worried its costing me jobs.
#144 to #128 - landcucumber
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ok, I want to help. First thing you need to do is go get a **** ass job. Doesn't matter what it is. Well don't work at like a porn shop or something like that. IM thinking fast food. Use a little good judgment. while you do that keep applying to any job opening. At the same time volunteer at a nonprofit of some kind. Habitat for humanity is a good one, especially at the restore locations if there is one near you. These count as experience. Anyway as long as you can keep the bad job for a year you can get a descant job and start moving up the ladder from there. Good places to slowly work your way up are, UPS/FEDEX, Homedepot, or other large stores, a car dealership as a detailer, work a seasonal job like holiday help these get your foot in the door. But the number one best way to get a job is to have a hook up. Talk to your relatives, friends, and neighbors.
And good luck to you bro!
P.S. it also has a lot to do with location some places just have bad job markets, you may need to move.
User avatar #155 to #144 - falanvaul
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I am planning to move away. From Florida to Georgia.
#193 to #155 - delio
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Ill help you with your judgement. If you are Black then Georgia is fine. If you are white try places like Missouri, colorado, kansas and nebraska. If you know spanish try texas, california and new mexico. Personally I would avoid the west coast like its the plague but since there really aren't that many jobs in the US that aren't being out sourced or given to college graduates who can't get a job (AKA under employed people who were promised this better life if they got a degree). Worst comes to worst you can always become a trucker. Personally Im planning to hopefully either move to canada or aim at getting into a university overseas. Not like I have any friends IRL...
Ill help you with your judgement. If you are Black then Georgia is fine. If you are white try places like Missouri, colorado, kansas and nebraska. If you know spanish try texas, california and new mexico. Personally I would avoid the west coast like its the plague but since there really aren't that many jobs in the US that aren't being out sourced or given to college graduates who can't get a job (AKA under employed people who were promised this better life if they got a degree). Worst comes to worst you can always become a trucker. Personally Im planning to hopefully either move to canada or aim at getting into a university overseas. Not like I have any friends IRL...
#195 to #193 - falanvaul
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If worse comes to worse, I'm joining the Marines
If worse comes to worse, I'm joining the Marines
#196 to #195 - delio
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Honestly I would love to join the army or air force but since I don't really agree with how I would be used when I enter ( IE ruining other countries for the sake of stupidity or selfish demands of a handful of people that don't represent the people but the companies inside of it). Im looking into seeing if other countries allow foreigners into their militaries. Wouldn't mind joining canada's.
Honestly I would love to join the army or air force but since I don't really agree with how I would be used when I enter ( IE ruining other countries for the sake of stupidity or selfish demands of a handful of people that don't represent the people but the companies inside of it). Im looking into seeing if other countries allow foreigners into their militaries. Wouldn't mind joining canada's.
#113 - zombiejew
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#134 to #113 - anon id: f2b191fe
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Maybe try getting off the internet for a day and see where that takes you.
#171 to #134 - zombiejew
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Taking the internet seriously again are we
#86 - DrollHumor
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While I was looking for a job I actually had a few places just straight up kick me out without even formally applying because I didn't have any experience.    
I applied to a Verizon customer service job and they wanted to hire me so badly because I did excellent on their little questionnaire thing, but the corporation demanded at least six months experience so she begged me to come back once I had that.    
   
My stepmother kicked me out of the house for eight hours a day, six days a week all the blazing goddamn summer. I was not allowed to be home, or even come home for lunch, unless I'd been out job searching for eight hours. I was not allowed to job search online. Do you realize how much gas eight hours of driving a day costs? I had to pay for that ****.    
   
You know where I ******* found my current job? Online, on my phone, while sitting in a parking lot sweating to death.
While I was looking for a job I actually had a few places just straight up kick me out without even formally applying because I didn't have any experience.
I applied to a Verizon customer service job and they wanted to hire me so badly because I did excellent on their little questionnaire thing, but the corporation demanded at least six months experience so she begged me to come back once I had that.

My stepmother kicked me out of the house for eight hours a day, six days a week all the blazing goddamn summer. I was not allowed to be home, or even come home for lunch, unless I'd been out job searching for eight hours. I was not allowed to job search online. Do you realize how much gas eight hours of driving a day costs? I had to pay for that ****.

You know where I ******* found my current job? Online, on my phone, while sitting in a parking lot sweating to death.
User avatar #88 to #86 - certifiedidiot
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That's when you start doing nasty **** to things she uses but where she won't find out.
User avatar #89 to #88 - DrollHumor
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I took granola bars out of the pantry to eat for lunch so I wouldn't starve. They were apparently hers.
Oh the **** I got for that.
User avatar #95 to #89 - certifiedidiot
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I'm talking about /b/ kind of **** to do in order to get revenge.
User avatar #99 to #95 - DrollHumor
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I bought her daughter Pokemon and play that and Minecraft with her, because she's 11 and should be able to be a kid. Not corporate mommy's little servant.

I also got her a bouquet of flowers for her birthday with an orange lily and a chrysanthemum. In flower language, it means "I hate you and I hope you die."

So that's been my subtle revenge thus far.
#101 to #99 - Orc
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Wow, you little faggot.
User avatar #104 to #101 - DrollHumor
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Eh I guess. I just don't want to waste energy and risk consequences by doing anything actually bad to her. Besides, I got a kick out of her thanking me for those stupid flowers. I hope she had friends over so she had to spit out that her stepdaughter got them for her.
User avatar #170 to #86 - leonhardt
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See, this is what gets you a job.
Going out and pounding the pavement 8 hours a day.
#175 to #170 - DrollHumor
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It also gives you suicidal thoughts and may lead to clinical depression.
It also gives you suicidal thoughts and may lead to clinical depression.
User avatar #178 to #175 - leonhardt
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Oh god, working 8 hours a day. How horrible.
User avatar #181 to #178 - DrollHumor
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No, being kicked out of your own home for eight hours a day, with nowhere to go. Working is fine, I have something to do, somewhere to be. Job searching for eight hours a day is murder.
User avatar #183 to #181 - leonhardt
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Funny, I had to do the exact same thing.
8 hours a day. If I wasn't out by 9am I would be beaten with a belt.
The deadbolt was locked until 5pm.
Only I wasn't allowed to use a car.
But yeah, pity it up.
#91 to #86 - saltyfries
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why are step parents such assholes to kids? Is it just me or this like the step parent stereotype that all step parents hate kids?
User avatar #103 to #91 - TardytheTurtle
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both my parents remarried at least once after they split up
only one was a truly horrible person but she lasted less than 5 years
she was the reason they divorced though so how good a person could she really be
but yeah, I've felt bad because my step parents weren't assholes like a lot of my friends' are
User avatar #96 to #91 - DrollHumor
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I think she hates me for one of two reasons:

1. I was a bratty thirteen year old to her because I didn't like the idea of my Dad marrying someone else and seven years later she hasn't gotten the **** over it.

2. I am the product of fifteen years of my parents being together and I remind her that my Mom exists.
#100 to #86 - knightkao **User deleted account**
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wow, I've heard of parents who get fed up with their unemployed kids(since they dont understand how hard it can be for them at times) but 8 hours a day? seriously?

I'm currently in college and to help with my school loans/fees I tried my best to look for jobs(preferably something that could get me good exp), I didnt have insane high expectations, I even scraped the bottom of the barrel and in the end the only thing I could find part time that fit my school sched(within a 10 mile radius from where I live) and didnt want experience was some depressing, and extremely physically demanding factory job(which I eventually got laid off for..)

now, im still in school and doing random office work partime and but parents compare me to friends kids of the same age as me(19) and have plans for med/law school and moving out.
User avatar #109 to #100 - DrollHumor
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When I finally found a job, she wanted me to get a second one because I only worked weekends. Apparently going to college classes every week day, and work every weekend, is not enough.
#118 to #109 - knightkao **User deleted account**
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yeah, there's being an evil step mother and then there being a complete bitch.

while I'm in college I usually get a random day of the week off for each semester, I usually use that day of to catch up with my studies, but parents think i use the day to sleep in and play games. while I work afterschool and on weekends.

I think it has something to do with parent not knowing how screwed up the job market is, especially for recent highschool grads with next to no experience.
seriously even the lowest of jobs want you to pretty much have a specific degree with a certain amount of related experience which is screwed up...
User avatar #122 to #118 - DrollHumor
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I live in the dorms because she hates me too much to let me stay at my Dad's, which is only like fifteen minutes from campus.

The lack of downtime has ****** me up, pretty bad. I moved to this state for this school and for my Dad's support. Now I have no friends, no support, no time for myself. I plan to transfer back to my home state and live with my mom, before I lose my mind.

#129 to #122 - knightkao **User deleted account**
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I considered moving into a dorm/cheap place but they're just so damn expensive.
So i decided to save up instead while looking for a decent place. I know many people my age who rushed to move out and be "independent" and eventually moved back with their parents since they weren't ready and now in debt.

I have friends who constantly tell me how bad the dorm can be(especially with an annoying roomate) and how evil their douchebag landlords can be.

sometimes I feel regret for going to college but at this point I might as well just finish what I started(2 more years) then try to look for something related to my studies.
#31 - robuntu
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In college I roomed with the same guy all four years...we were both majoring in the same thing and we got along pretty well.

Freshman year of college, he worked during the summer (I went home to chill with my parents)
Sophomore year of college, he worked in the computer labs (I repeated a class I'd failed)
Junior year of college, he moved up to a sweet 'Help Desk' job and that summer he had a cool internship. I stayed on campus and played World of Warcraft and hit the level cap
Senior year of college, he founded a club related to our major and kept doing his part-time work. He even entered some dumb contests and would go to on campus lectures and junk outside of class. I did Ultimate Frisbee and drank every Thursday night.

When we graduated, we both had the same degree. Our GPAs were almost the same too. But when we went to the job fair, everyone he talked to, offered him a job. He had job offers before he graduated. Everyone I talked to said, 'Sorry, we're looking for someone with experience!'. It was crap, nobody would hire, so I couldn't get experience. And I couldn't get experience because nobody would hire me. We're even the same race and gender, so I couldn't explain it. Why would anyone want to hire him over me? We had the same degree and almost identical GPAs. Just because he did all this extra stuff and demonstrated his abilities and drive....that doesn't make him a better person or anything. Anyone can waste their summers.

#33 to #31 - robuntu
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And before people call me a liar - at my University if you repeated a class you failed, the F was recorded on your transcript but only the new grade was used in your GPA calculation.
User avatar #36 to #31 - tvfreakuk
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I actually do try to get summer jobs and **** though, even from my first days of university (I'm in 2nd year now) and I've always been told that I need more experience and stuff
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I want to get a job in childcare or education or the like. I have 9 years experience payed and volunteer working with, instructing and coaching children. I get passed up on jobs because Im a guy. A girl i had an interview on the same day as, had no experience, showed up in a t shirt and shorts and got the job. Dat oppression of women man
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Probably because people think that women would never do anything to harm a child and that every guy who is in the childcare or educational field is a pervert who just wants to diddle kids.
User avatar #54 to #41 - wthree
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A few jobs I've applied for will have their emails marked with slogans like "Advancing the careers of women in science". Sure doesn't feel like I have much of a chance when I see that.
User avatar #66 to #31 - nigeltheoutlaw
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>Just because he did all this extra stuff and demonstrated his abilities and drive

It doesn't make him a better person, but it does make him a better worker, which is all these people care about. On paper, you look like a lazy ****, and on paper he seems like a hardworking go getter. Is this really difficult to grasp?
#73 to #66 - robuntu
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So, it's almost like life doesn't magically start when I finish college at the age of 23-25? And that employers are going to consider everything I've done?

So by not doing anything except attending school, I've put myself in the bin of least desirable college graduates? And that, possibly, my inability to find a job is....at least partially.....my fault?

I dunno man. That's like, just your opinion.
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Yes, they will consider everything you've done. A good GPA is one small aspect of a good worker.

Yes, that's entirely your fault, you lazy cunt. "Wow, you mean these employers consider things other than my academic success when seeing if I'm suitable for work? Who would have thought that things like being able to hold a job and operate well under stress would be desirable qualities." You don't know how to work like your friend does. You don't know how to time manage like your friend does. Ten to one your friend has much better social skills than you as a result of having to hustle for work and as a result of the work he did, and you're wondering why he's more suitable? I'm amazed you even graduated if you can't handle that amount of critical thinking.

It's not my opinion only, it's the opinion of employers too. It's one thing to be content in your subpar underachievement, but don't expect the world to choke it down just to make you comfy. mfw you.
User avatar #120 to #31 - schneidend
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Did you run/lead your guild in WoW? If so, put it on your resume if you're going for any kind of job that involves leadership or management. Even if it doesn't, make it work, explain in your cover letter how your WoW experience would help you do the job to which you're applying. If you don't have a resume or cover letter, write them immediately or go to a workshop and write them after, and tailor it to the job to which you're applying.

But, yeah, internships are a pretty huge deal and look good on your resume. It was foolish of you to not at least try to apply for one.
#42 to #31 - eminesser
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So what you're saying is, that your roomate wasnt better qualified for the jobs 'just because' he showed drive and dedication to his career early on, as opposed to you?

because if that's your thought you're wrong big time. Even with a degree in a certain field you're not even close to being a valuable asset to companies, unless you're really extraordinary. Newly educated employees almost always need to learn how to convert their theoretical competences into practical skills that are valuable for customers etc. This furthermore requires skills such as the ability to dedicate yourself to a job, co-operate with colleagues and communicate with others in general - skills you don't necessarily acquire by attaining a certain degree.

Any employer would any day prefer someone who from an early age shows interest in his/her job, loyalty and so on, which is why it is more than fair that your roommates hard work and dedication pays off.

My personal experience likewise tells me that anyone who is qualified for entering a certain college educatement, either by having the required grades or the financial ressources, can get the degree in the end just by keeping up, studying and being to classes - its what you do beside this, that really makes you stand out and defines you as a valueable employee and asset
#43 to #42 - robuntu
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So what you are saying is that, just because I showed up to class and got good grades like everyone else at my University - companies want to hire the most qualified people available?

#47 to #43 - eminesser
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grades are something you get once during each semester at the university, and while they help you progress career-wise, they dont necessarily show the bigger picture - which HR-reps and recruiters know. This is why having personal reccomendations on your job applications, lots of former job experience (or any kind of experience, you can pretty much put anything you've done on your resume and make it sound like its something special) and anything else that helps recruiters getting to know you, is such a great idea.

If you're looking for jobs that are meant for employees to be there for the long haul, and that are supposed to encourage ambitions and personal development, the ability to show that you've been doing stuff that legitimately interested you, that you've been working on, and solving, cases and generally that you can prove, that you've shown interest, a passion for learning and understanding and dedication to things beyond the specific field for your degree, these things are all indications of you being capable of developing as a person and adjusting to new things, which is vital for any business.

So in short, yes companies do of course want the hire the most qualified people but the parameters that define 'qualified' goes beyond grades.
User avatar #1 - leonhardt
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Oh boy, another round of "16 year olds bitching about how they can't get a job because they're too good for McDonalds or WalMart."
User avatar #132 to #1 - leonhardt
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And look what happened. Exactly what I said would happen.
User avatar #219 to #132 - nigeltheoutlaw
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That's probably because you ignore the fact that most entry level positions now require prior experience in some menial job, as I said before. You obviously aren't competing in this job market since you make these false generalizations. I have literally shoveled **** to pay the bills before, but even jobs like that are becoming hard to come by, and more and more require prior experience, which I don't have. Unless I should intern in dishwashing?
User avatar #221 to #219 - leonhardt
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You ever think that it's maybe because you're just a **** candidate, and that's why they tell you that you need experience?
User avatar #222 to #221 - nigeltheoutlaw
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They're in the postings. I'm not told after I inquire or apply, they tell everyone up front. You ever think that you're delusional and have no idea how the modern working prospects look?
User avatar #223 to #222 - leonhardt
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I think I have a job that I had to take a week long, unpaid workshop in order to get experience for, which, surprise! Actually got me the job.

But yeah i don't know anything about getting a job because I don't make it as hard as you do just so I have something to complain about.
#224 to #223 - nigeltheoutlaw
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Wow, there are week long, unpaid workshops for dishwashing and cashier jobs? Please, tell me where they are, I'll gladly do them if it means work.

I make it hard by applying? Or I make it hard by taking any and all work I can get? Or maybe I make it hard because I'm not an asshole like you? I guess being an asshole is where I go wrong.
User avatar #225 to #224 - leonhardt
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I get it, you're sad that I have a great job making easy money and you're too **** to even be considered by McDonalds.

Yeah. You have to be an asshole to sell cars. This is not news to me.
#226 to #225 - nigeltheoutlaw
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No, I'm trying to explain to you that not everybody has had access to jobs like that (can everyone sell cars?) and that many entry level jobs, which you criticized people for not taking, require prior experience, even for menial, minimum wage labor. You're delusional though, so have fun in your fantasy that the only reason other people aren't big shot car salesmen like you is because they're "too ****".

Besides, once I graduate I'll make 95 grand out of college. Have fun in your great job.
User avatar #229 to #226 - leonhardt
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Oh wow, 95 grand, that's cute.
I'll catch you on the news sitting in the park with a bunch of other hippies who are pissed that, oh, you still have to actually look for a job when you get out of College.
User avatar #2 to #1 - megavoir
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And more top comments talking about Volunteer Work.
User avatar #159 to #2 - leonhardt
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Like clockwork.
#17 to #1 - anon id: fbd9eb9f
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A lot of entry level jobs will pass you over for people that have more experience in the field.

Sorry that this is news to you.
User avatar #21 to #17 - leonhardt
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Sorry you have to be snarky because you can't get a job.
#50 to #1 - anon id: 2a0e42c0
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Even THEY turned me down :/
User avatar #87 to #1 - certifiedidiot
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Said the guy who refuses to take it up the ass for nothing less than a hundred dollars.
User avatar #106 to #1 - tvfreakuk
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McDonald's rejected me.
We don't have Walmarts here (Asda is the Walmart subsidiary, but I still got rejected fromt there)
User avatar #143 to #1 - darkangeloffire
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*****, you don't talk **** about Walmart. Actually I work there, pretty much everyone above the store manager is an ******* retard.
User avatar #3 to #1 - thunderchanter
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To be fair, it can be difficult to get a job at either of those depending on where you live
User avatar #4 to #3 - leonhardt
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Not really.
User avatar #5 to #4 - thunderchanter
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There is one McDonalds where I live and they won't even consider hiring people because they already have too many workers there
User avatar #6 to #5 - leonhardt
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So there are no other fast food restaurants or department stores in your entire city.
Just your house, and the McDonalds.
User avatar #7 to #6 - thunderchanter
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To be perfectly honest, there are about four places that will hire anyone under the age of 21, one is the McDonalds and the other three being computer repair shops. Everywhere else you either need to be 21 because they serve alcohol or you need some form of special education because you have to get a license.
User avatar #8 to #7 - leonhardt
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Lol you can work at any place that serves alcohol even if you're under 21. You just can't handle the alcohol.
User avatar #9 to #8 - thunderchanter
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Yeah? Tell that to the 9 places that threw out my resume as soon as they found out I was 19
User avatar #10 to #9 - leonhardt
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You sure it was just because you were 19?
User avatar #63 to #1 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I tried to apply to a dishwashing position at a restaurant. The guy said he wanted someone with at least a year of official dishwashing experience. I'm not too good for anything, but so many menial jobs require prior experience in **** that you can be taught to do in three minutes that it bars me from most work.
User avatar #107 to #63 - rokkarokkaali
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dishwashing experience
wat
User avatar #108 to #107 - rokkarokkaali
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wait you could just say you did chores in the ******* house
User avatar #218 to #108 - nigeltheoutlaw
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I tried, they said paid dishwashing experience in a restaurant environment. Such ****.
#11 to #1 - fareastbrainseer [OP]
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You're missing the point, beyond that, looking for a "real job" the issue is "relevant" experience. Experience in fast food is only good for so much. People want to hire people who they know are capable of doing the work they want them to.
User avatar #12 to #11 - leonhardt
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So start in an entry level position. It's really not as difficult as you're making it.
#51 to #12 - anon id: 2a0e42c0
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You can apply all day long but they still have to make the choice to hire you for even those entry-level jobs.
User avatar #157 to #51 - leonhardt
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So you make yourself the right choice. Jesus ******* Christ. No wonder you kids have trouble getting experience.
#13 to #12 - fareastbrainseer [OP]
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I understand what you're saying, but employers can be difficult with this. I'm not disagreeing with you in that one should put in the work to get a job, but it can be hard to get your foot in the door sometimes.
#59 - chrispoot
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Also, guys, just putting this out here. Demoman is one hot merc
#241 to #59 - ThatTFguy
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#62 to #59 - arkanios
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Are you implying that the Pyro isn't hotter?
#97 to #62 - dehnoobshow
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But, alas, how very possible he's still a virgin.
User avatar #69 to #62 - chrispoot
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Not sure if you made a intentional pun there Yes, He/She/it is hot aswell
User avatar #70 to #69 - chrispoot
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But Demo is the hottest