Randy, y u so awesome

Well how about some Creme Fraiche?

But is it a drug -_-

technically yes, considering a "drug" is any substance that alters one's mental or physical state, and one could argue that tv and funnyjunk both kill brain cells...

As defined by Websters a "drug" is something that is a substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease

the key word there being "intended". not everything is used for its intended purpose

I just will say everyone is right an I'm sorry for creating a shitstorm

its all good bro

so crack isn't a drug?

That's true but so is cocaine before it's used the way it is...

cocaine is modified from the plant. Bud isnt

All you do is use an extract of the Cocoa leaf and it can even be ingested in leaf form, sound similar?

"extract of the Cocoa leaf"
"the Cocoa leaf"
"Cocoa leaf"
"Cocoa"

It's COCA not cocoa - cocoa is chocolate.
and fyi - if you ingest coca in leaf form - you will get about 1-2% of the actual effect you'd get from a line.

LoL, my bad, chocolate is pretty addictive though

You smoke the bud. thats it to smoking weed.
Doing cocaine you get the leaves and completely modify it into a much more potent powder that is physically addictive unlike marijuana and coke can actually kill you, unlike marijuana.

Cocaine is not physically addictive.

Uhm, yes? fucking retard

What a well thought out answer. I like the way you insert your sources into the text particularly.
"Cocaine dependence (or addiction) is a psychological desire to regularly use cocaine" (Wikipedia)
"[...] cocaine and crack are not physically addictive like heroin" (Drugscope)
wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_cocaine_physically_addictive

I don't even fucking CARE anymore, so much shitstorm, all around us

wait! its not?

I understand its a drug. I just generally call it a plant because it shouldnt be labeled as a drug and illegal because it is 'one'

Pardon me, as I may be wrong, but OP doesn't seem to be advocating Marijuana. So what are you upset about? Unless you mean the whole discussion on both sides, in which case I agree with you. People should stay out of other peoples lives, and let them do what they want. So long as they don't hurt anyone.

Yeah.. it wasn't specifically for the post.. just for marijuana stuff here in general.

Ah,I then yes I completely understand.

lol, I typed "I" instead oh "ah" but I forgot to erase the "I".
you honestly made me laugh though, so thumb for you.

lmao i know :D i just thought it was funny i THUMBED you too

The problem is that we KNOW we're not special, but when we casually mention it as something we do we get buttfucked by red thumbs and hate comments. We never said we're special or better for smoking pot. We just wish that we could start a comic with "So i was taking a bong hit" with the same level of understanding as "So I was making a sandwich" or "So I was drinking with friends," but no, somebody mentions weed and there's a shitstorm.

tl;dr we never said we're special, people flip shit when weed is mentioned.

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not really because the same argument can be made for cigarettes or alcohol even tv. or anything that can be considered not productive

Not really for the first two because there are blatant detrimental effects to one's health from smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol; there are none for marijuana. However, this is the first time that I've heard weed considered a bad thing because of how it wastes time. It can definitely be grouped with things such as TV and video games with that in mind, but this is the first time I've heard that argument, which is why it caught me off guard.

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thats her fault. she chose to be a lazy bitch and smoke weed everyday. i smoke with friends aevery couple of weeks, and im fine. so weed is perfectly fine, if you arent a dumbfuck with it.

shes addicted. lets make Heroin legal cause its the users fault?

"addicted" you cant get addicted to pot. there is literally no physical dependency to it. at the most theres a small longing for it, but no actual addiction. i know addiction, i was hooked on oxycodone for the longest time, and the longing for pot is NOT addiction.

No okay... i guess that counts for alcohol and smoke aswell then?

She is dependant on the drug and shes getting treatment for it

alchohol has a strong mental dependency, nicotine has a strong physical dependency. weed has at most a little mental dependency. argument invalid, all drugs are not the fucking same.

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im not aying so but im aying that weed is not harmless like everyone seems to believe

it is more or less harmless. just people who do stupid stuff while on it or for it.

Do some research if you want... it is not as harmless as you think

i harbor no ill effects from smoking a few times a month, and from all ive seen, no one else does either. im going off personal experience, not research.

theres a mental addiction to it then can cause spme psycological problems... Im not ssaying its dangerous all im saying is that its not harmless

causes psychological problems when done every day. if you do it once a week or so, you can actually raise your iq.

really...? You can raise your iq with weed... sure!

its been tested, when smoked about once a week, that it can improve one's iq and imagination

im sorry if i sond rude but that sounds like uteeer and complete bullshit

If you're gonna make me belve that you're going to have t obring some proof

im not talking by leaps and bounds, jsut slightly
But among light users (fewer than five joints a week)*, researchers found gains in IQ scores of about 5.8 points. Former users and non-users also had slight increases in their scores -- of 3.5 and 2.6, respectively.”
www.marijuana.com/threads/can-marijuana-make-you-smarter.161714/

http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

read this aswell

All im saying is that it is not harmless

Honsetly thats her fault if she cant be responsible with it and have control of herself i do not care if she fucked herself

yeah okay i see where you are coing from lets legalise everything because its always the users fault...

i never said to legalize anything what are you getting this from

Honestly though in that situation she let the drug get the best of her. I have no empathy for you or your problems

I didnt expect you to

I just gave my opinion but as i forgot if your agains weed everyone hates you here

and where did you get the legalized thing from?

I get it from the fact that everyone spams that ti should be legal...

all im aying is that she's dependant on the drug she cant do without it and that caused problems at school so she had to drop out

there may not be physiological addictive qualities, but with drugs there always mental addictive qualities. Im not on either side, im just here.
Ap psychology is my favorite class.

She gets psycologial help for it... whatever kind of addiction it is she really have problems

Yeah im sure you know all about her

I am not saying that it is a horribly dangerous drug... What im saying is that its not harmless like everyone seems to believe and i dont see why it should be lagalized

I know but remember they tried to illegalise alcohol once but it was impossible due to underground trading. It has been intigrated into society since it have existed so long. If you're only argument is to compare it to something else thats bad for you i till dont see a proper reason as to why this is needed

I don't know my friends and I aren't lazy stoners we get super ripped then clean the apartment, reorganize small items, and rearrange furniture. My girlfriend spends this time doing her physics homework, she's a pot head and majoring in nuclear physics, with a minor in applied and theoretical physics. I guess it affects everyone differently, I get lazy and not wanting to do anything when I get drunk. When I'm drunk nothing else matters but me. Thats why I do not drink.

I see where you are coming from... but why do you push the legislation so hard? I mean sinse you people manage fine and can control yourself then the poor people who cant can just go screw themselves?

Do you drink alcohol? Do you smoke cigarettes? Do you eat fast food? Do you drink caffeinated beverages? Have you ever taken a prescription pain medication? Have you ever used NyQuil or Robitussin? I could keep listing things that people use every day that weak individuals take and ruin their own lives with it. An inanimate object does not have the ability to be bad, it exists it's actions follow the laws of nature that govern them. It's us, people, who fuck it up just like everything else.

Yeah but look at this... Weed has NO purpose exept making you stoned

everything else you mentioned has

So i ask again... why do this have to be legal?

I am for mdicinal usage but medicinal usage ONLY

Alcohol and tobacco is only legal since it were invented and intigrated t osociety so long ago...

If it was made today it would be illegal in a hearthbeat

I know that booze were illegal once but the fact is that it didnt work because it was already integrated into society. When a drug have been legal for that long you simply cant remove it due to underground trading.

Thats why this worries me... If we legalise Marijuana theres no going back.

And i agree it is a personal preferance...

I know but does crime justifiy legislation? Anything theres a demand for is produced legally or ilagally.

I mean if you're going to use that as an argument why not legalise everything then?

Then we would have no crime at all

I support it for those uses, i however do not support it being selled legaly as a drug. If material and medicine is all you want it for then i support it if only factories under surveilance and pharmacys ca buy this stuff and use if for material or medicine

I know but remember that this is a drug... I know its not physicly addictive but it got a mental addiction if yor under alot of stress its hard to quit and your situation can get worse,,,

Im just stating my opinion :s

I do see where you are coming from but i dont see the need to it being a legal drug just so you can get high... sorry

I support it restricted for the good reasons you provided though

I know, but people are still going to steal aswell even if it is illegal

it still doesnt mean stealing should be legal

Well i see it a an equal argument to the "Alcohol does more damage therefore it ha to be legal" argument

I am against alcohol aswell buddy. I admit i enjoy having a drink once in a while, but i am willing to sacrifice that for those unfortunate people who struggle with problems every day because of it!

Same w/ me. One of my best friends can't hold a job and every little money he makes he spends on weed. And every time I try to do something w/ him it ends up like that song "Because I got high".

I feel you... Its like people believe tyou cant get addicted to marijuana...

All depends on the personality. There are dumb ass stoners that are complete fuck ups and people who have degrees, families, etc. who smoke pot. Your friend was gonna end up a jobless dropout anyway.

Thanks alot....

''she''. See, there's your problem there.

I am not allowed to have female friends?

Lol is OP the only one thumbing?

I havent thumbed anything up or down

I dont care if you believe me i stated something bad that have happened in my life and thereby explained my reason for bing against the subject duscussed

Cant you sacrifica a little for those unfortunate people who cant control themselves?

Do you drink alcohol? Do you smoke cigarettes? Do you eat fast food? Do you drink caffeinated beverages? Have you ever taken a prescription pain medication? Have you ever used NyQuil or Robitussin? I could keep listing things that people use every day that weak individuals take and ruin their own lives with it. An inanimate object does not have the ability to be bad, it exists it's actions follow the laws of nature that govern them. It's us, people, who fuck it up just like everything else.

All im saying is that Weed only has one single purpose and that purpose is making you stoned...

Why is this needed?

Have you actually done the research into the medical benefits of marijuana? It has been shown to help slow the progression of Alzheimer's disease. It's an anti-depressant, a pain reliever, an anti-emetic, sorry there's more but that's what I have off of the top of my head. I could go into political blah blah blah, but why? As it stands now the "war" on weed is dwindling, state by state they are adopting laws to make it legal for medical consumption, and slowly those states that already have the medical use passed, they are pushing for legislation to fully decriminalize it for recreational use. What we think/say here is irrelevant. Within the next ten years I see it being fully decriminalized nation wide and on the federal level. If you don't like weed don't use it thats fine, but democracy be damned if we "potheads" let people from stopping us from enjoying a harmless, yes until you show me scientific research to back up the claims of it being harmful not just personal experiences then it will remain harmless.

I support medicinal usage if it actually is needed.

It sounds like most people here believe smoking weed is 100% harmless or even healthy...

ANd if you actually do some research on the drug you will see that it paralyzes brain cells

another person on here already addressed that issue, scientific research has found that because of the cannabinoid receptors in the brain, it kills cancerous brain cells that form independently from the actual brain structure. Heavy marijuana use has been proven to do less damage to the brain than drinking alcohol.

Im not saying its worse than alcohol... Im saying that its not needed and wouldnt do anything good if legalised.

And i support medicinal usage if its NEEDED

I dont support it just fore the sole reason of people getting stoned...

Fair, I can find that a reasonable stance. It's not gonna stop me from supporting legalization but, I can respect your stance.

Thats all i ask for.

Im just getting sick of all the people hating me for being against legizlation

And people believing that it is compleately harmless in every situation...

Well to be fair as pro marijuana as I am I agree introducing any form of combustible anything into your body will do some level of harm. In fact putting anything that you body didn't have in the first place will have side effects. Nothing is perfect the side effects of these pharmaceuticals that the FDA pass are scary as fuck. I mean come on ,anal seepage, really? It's all a guess when it comes to the stuff. But we keep shoving down our throats, anti biotics, pain killers (i.e. asprin, tylonol, bayer) all of these slow destroy the body and together cause's a lot of damage.You have to take one medicine to mask the side effects of this other one. And so on and so forth. I am empathetic to the plight of your friend I really am, but is it bad to let people such as my self, whom are productive members of society, hold down a full time and part time job to pay for school and housing. Also have never done anything, short of smoking pot and maybe speeding every now and then, illegal. Would it be a travesty for us not to have to worry about being sent to jail for consuming marijuana for recreational use? I don't like to drink alcohol father was an alcoholic, and I get bad hangovers, but a joint every couple of weeks is that bad?

I understand how you feel.

But i dont look at this law as a way to punish private users i see them as laws to pusish the drug sellers and screen society against this. That is why medicine with side effects are restricted.

Medice whitch can become addictive is always protected this way and dome drugs are illegal if they dont have that much of an useful purpose

Well through logical, respectful debate we have exchanged ideas and opinions without calling each other names. I rather enjoyed conversing with you.

Thank you for the constructive conversation :)

That made no sense at all...

Sorry anon but theres alot of people struggling with addiction to drugs and if you are allergic you avoid something... The problem is the body keep longing for the drug

You still dont make any valid points. Weed has litterarly no purpose exept making you stoned... is that really badly needed?

I actually would support that

However it is impossible due to the fact that it have been intigrated into society due to countless generations

If it had been invented to day it would be illegal in a heartbeat

Yeah so lets legalise EVERYTHING

there you go now you can do ANYTHING you want

Screw the people who get consumed by drugs i want my kokain

Fuck you anon

Im sure weed doeas good for you...

Give me the law in portugal and the statistics if you want to prove something

Someone tries a drug once believing they wont get hooked and gets trapped. Not everyone can get out of it, but you seem to have no respect for those people at all

I care more for other people. If this is illegal then it becomes expensive and fewer people will try the drugs.

And if weed does good for you by all mean smoke it, but i believe you could relax just as fine if you never tried it

Lets say that the person wont start with the drug because of the dangerous enviroment... but then it is legalised and she can buy it from the store so she tries it and gets hooked?

No...

Do you honestly believe that the user rate would stay the same if you could get kokain from your lokal supermart for 10$?

Its okay for me if you have different views

just dont hate me for mine.

And yeah goodbye!

I honeslty believe we would live in a much better world if drugs were not invented

I dont support that system because it is capable of killing people.

If you buy all the herion you crave, no matter how clean it is it will propably lead to an overdose or bankrupcy anyways.

Alcohol is legal still some people are bankrupt because of it

Well getting drugs is expensive tough and sometimes risky. Dont you think those three factors help in any way to reduce drug abuse?

I am not holding on an idea im simply stating that it is hard to predict the results global legizlation and we might not be able t oge back if it have a negative effect we dont want

I do not agree. I believe we would get a society with alot more drugs and suffering.

And by te way what you linked was an activistblog...

no to your claim that the user percentage would stay the same.

ANd as i said i need statistics on that befoere believing it

Have your opinion if you want to just dont hate me for mine

If all drug abusers are weak then there are alot of weak people in the world... and if laws can protect them i support it

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