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User avatar #271 - turtletroll (01/06/2013) [-]
The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world with 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2009 compared to the United States' 3.0 (over 40 times higher) and to Germany's 0.21 (3 times higher)
User avatar #347 to #271 - paintbucket (01/06/2013) [-]
and yet gun crime is higher than before the gun ban.
#302 to #271 - caras (01/06/2013) [-]
They still have an insanely high homicide/crime rates.
User avatar #290 to #271 - cmcghie (01/06/2013) [-]
You need to login to view this link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%932012) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre Arson, Stabbing Rampage in Seoul South Korea : 10/20/2008. 6 people dead, 5 from stabbing. 7 others wounded, 4 seriously. An angry man felt people “looked down on him.”

Anti-police stabbing spree in Shanghai, China: 7/2008. 6 Police Officers stabbed to death, 4 wounded. 28 year old man angry at police attacked a police station with a knife.

Akihabara Massacre, Chiyoda City, Tokyo, Japan: 6/8/2008. 7 people killed (3 struck by car, 4 by stabbing), many more injured. Man slammed into a crowd with his car, then jumped out and began stabbing people to death.

18 year old slashes 4 to death in Sitka, Alaska, US: 3/25/2008. 4 people killed. 18 year old (old enough to purchase a rifle over the counter) kills 4 people, related to him, with a 5 inch knife.

Stabbing Spree kills 2, Tsuchiura, Japan: 3/23/2008. 2 killed, 7 wounded. Man “just
wanted to kill anyone.”

Stabbing spree wounds 41, 6 seriously in Berlin Train Station: 5/26/2006. 41 wounded, 6 seriously. Thankfully no one died in this attack, but not for lack of trying on the part of the drunk 16 year old.

4 killed in stabbing spree in London, UK: 9/2004. 4 killed, 2 wounded. Mentally ill man attacks mostly older people.

6 killed over Xbox dispute in Deltona, Florida, US: 8/6/2004. 6 killed. 4 men (all old enough to legally purchase firearms) bludgeon 6 people to death with baseball bats over purloined Xbox.

Daegu subway fire, Daegu, South Korea: 2/18/2003. 198 killed, 147 injured. A 56 year old unemployed taxi driver, dissatisfied with his medical treatment, sets fire to a crowded train.

Osaka School Massacre, Osaka Japan: 6/8/2001. 8 children dead, 13 other children and 2 teachers wounded. Committed by 37 year old former janitor armed with a kitchen knife.

The violent crime rate in the UK is higher than in the US as well.
#368 to #290 - thegamegestapo (01/06/2013) [-]
I hate to be that guy as your argument is well researched enough that you've proven not to be some gun totting moron but according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime puts the 2012 						******					 rate at 1.2 for the UK and 4.8 for the US.    
   
That, to me anyway, means that provided your statement that the UK has more violent crime is correct that make violent people more dangerous. However, as the Anon below said, the UK and US are very different societies so it's not really a great example.    
   
After spending longer than I'm proud of comparing levels of 						*******					 by countries with similar socio-economic conditions I've concluded that countries with low levels of firearm regulation and countries with high levels were roughly the same with the favour leading slightly towards tighter restrictions (I can't conclude that the laws are the reason though as the difference is usually by a rate of only about one). The only solid conclusion I could make is that countries with moderate levels of gun control had a slightly higher rate of violent crime than the other two. Take from that what you will.   
   
My figures were taken mostly off UNODC website. Sorry I wrote so much.
I hate to be that guy as your argument is well researched enough that you've proven not to be some gun totting moron but according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime puts the 2012 ****** rate at 1.2 for the UK and 4.8 for the US.

That, to me anyway, means that provided your statement that the UK has more violent crime is correct that make violent people more dangerous. However, as the Anon below said, the UK and US are very different societies so it's not really a great example.

After spending longer than I'm proud of comparing levels of ******* by countries with similar socio-economic conditions I've concluded that countries with low levels of firearm regulation and countries with high levels were roughly the same with the favour leading slightly towards tighter restrictions (I can't conclude that the laws are the reason though as the difference is usually by a rate of only about one). The only solid conclusion I could make is that countries with moderate levels of gun control had a slightly higher rate of violent crime than the other two. Take from that what you will.

My figures were taken mostly off UNODC website. Sorry I wrote so much.
User avatar #540 to #368 - whaawhaa (01/07/2013) [-]
But the US has almost 5x the population
User avatar #548 to #540 - thegamegestapo (01/07/2013) [-]
That's why the figures have been calculated per capita.
User avatar #559 to #548 - whaawhaa (01/07/2013) [-]
Plus we have a lot of black people and mexicans.
#284 to #271 - anonymous (01/06/2013) [-]
An irrelevant comparison. There are more guns in the US (what with them being legal and all), so obviously there's going to be more gun violence. Compare the actual violent crime (unarmed, knife, bludgeon, gun, whatever else) statistics.
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