I might not like the series very much but Rebels did have a ******* AWESOME AT-TE. An AWOL Clone Trooper was living on it and customised it into a moving house/fortress. Hot damn that **** is awesome.
I knew it was Rex but nothing beyond that and how cool it looks. All I know is I want this as a game. Like, seriously, that would be a ******* amazing game.
that reminds me, I should do my own comp on HK-47. wait do you intend on going in depth with it or doing it like this? i must know before i make an ass of myself >.>
One thing has bugged me for a while: Are all troopers clones? I remember the "prequel" trilogy soldiers and Republic Commandos were. In the original trilogy they weren't all the same though. If not, then why did they stop using clones as soldiers?
All the replies you're getting are from the expanded universe, namely from the game Battlefront 2. Since the EU is no longer considered canon, it's logical to assume that stormtroopers are supposed to be clones. This is reinforced by The Force Awakens, when they discuss multiple clone candidates making up the First Order's military, probably after Jango's DNA was lost or destroyed during the Empire's fall.
Have you SEEN the movie?
Kylo says: "Maybe its time to consider creating a clone army"
and General Hux replies: My men have been trained and conditioned from birth!
Force awakens literally spells out that Stormtroopers are not clones.
That's what I believe it was. While they abandoned the idea of a complete clone army they did have clones from multiple sources as well as random recruits that made up the ranks.
I think they didn't want an entire army made out of one guy because it made it easy to have that army betray something due to them having similar thoughts or whatnot.
no, only the ones at the start of episode IV and V are clones and are supposed to be the 501st legion. after the clone wars, the clones were slowly phased out.
as for why they phased them out, it's because after jango fett's death in episode II, the clones had to...stretch the dna used to make the rest of the clones in the clone wars.
Like agnaraed said, after ep III the cloning facilities were destroyed, so all new troopers were trained recruits.
However, one unit remained entirely clone based. The 501st legion, also called Vader's fist. They're the stormtroopers you see raiding Leia's ship in episode IV, and that is probably the only reason they took the ship so quickly.
In the old canon the only cones that became storm troopers were Anikin's 501st legion. In the new canon no storm troopers are clones, as clones were decommissioned and retired by order of the emperor.
Ignore #22, in TFA they're kidnapping children at a young age and brainwashing. It's explicitly stated that they don't clone, because a character argues that they should just be cloning instead of indoctrinating.
As far as the "old" canon goes (mostly involving Battlefront II), the Stormtroopers were actually all clones until the cloning facilities on Kamino staged a rebellion using clone troopers. The Emperor later decided that an army consisting of entirely identical clones was too susceptible to corruption, and only the 501st Legion remained purely clones of Jango Fett.
As far as the new canon goes, I can't say. Not sure if the LucasArts games are still canon or not.
New canon for Troopers is that they're recruited and trained. As shown in the Rebels show, which is considered canon. While New Order just simply kidnaps kids and Spartan Trains them to be cannon fodder.
Hmmm.. Part of me wants to be hopeful that Rebels takes place after the Kamino rebellion so there's still the possibility that the games are canon, too, but I doubt that. Still, though, good that they're actively deconstructing the misconception that Stormtroopers are clones.
Would you know if the 501st makes any appearance in Rebels?
That's disappointing to hear, because a lot of the games had some pretty good stories in them. And they were published by LucasArts, for goodness' sake; can't see why on earth they'd be considered non-canon, but that's the regime under Disney for ya.
Thanks anyway, though; I'm clueless as to what is actually considered canon nowadays.
I've said this multiple times since 2014, Everything new is automatically canon unless otherwise stated by the Lucasfilm Story Group. Anything from the old canon such as Rakata prime (which is canon now, thanks to the force awakens visual dictionary) from KOTOR and the solo family having their firstborn son fall to the dark side and start a war (which happened during the legacy of the jedi story arch and Star wars Episode VII) and luke skywalker exiling himself because the solo child becomes evil under his watch has a chance to become canon, if it appears in any form of star wars media (via game, book, movie, comic, etc.).
Now I guess I should just consider myself lucky that the Republic Commandos actually appeared in the Clone Wars CG series; they're safe in the new definition of canon. The 501st Legion I'm not so worried about - they already featured prominently in Clone Wars, so they could reasonably get more attention in the form of new novels or shows that are part of the canon. More pertinent to my interests, however, is Delta Squad. The presence of Clone Commandos was already set up to be in the new canon due to commando Gregor's appearance near the end of the Clone Wars series, but the small cameo Delta Squad had in season 3 pretty much saved them from a fate of uncertainty. Even if nothing in the canon ever mentions them again, they technically still exist, and that's good enough for me.
I am now much more satisfied with the new definition of the canon.
Ep 7 implies they're clones but Finn isn't really a clone he was a slave brought in to be The Janitor but for some reason became a clone trooper and his immediate first battle he turned traitor and ran.
no they don't, Kylo just says "Maybe supreme leader snoke should consider using a clone army." after Fn-2187 defects. Fn-2187 actually says at one point that he was kidnapped as a child, and current canon supports this.
The Kaminoans tried creating their own army of clones in an attempt to rebel against the Empire. The Empire found out about it and invaded Kamino, killed all of the Kaminoan Rebel Leaders, massacred that entire generation of clones, including murdering many of them while still in their cloning tanks, then destroyed most of the cloning labs. Then Palpatine decided that this somehow proved that they needed more than just one template for their army, and some other templates were brought in for cloning, but ultimately it was abandoned in favor of just regular recruitment/conscription, which most of the clones who were still serving in the Imperial Armed Forces heavily resented, because it resulted in an extreme decline in overall combat efficiency.
main reason is after the events of episode III the kaminoans started seeing what was going on with the galaxy and what their new troops were being used for. Long story short, Empire attacked Kamino and the clone labs were destroyed, requiring troops from there on out to be trained normally.
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They're essentially the same ship with different uses for the secondary segment; for bombers, it's a warhead bay that utilizes a bomb chute. For shuttles, subtract the segment and convert the warhead bay to a cargo one and use it to hold two passengers comfortably.
The Stormtroopers are not clones, at least not in the way that most people are thinking. When the Republic fell, and transitioned into the Galactic Empire, the clones were replaced with volunteers and conscripts over time due to their rapid aging, as explained clear as day in Attack of the Clones. Some of the original clones remained, becoming training instructors at the Imperial Academy. Thirty years after the fall of the Galactic Empire, Stormtroopers were captives taken from their families, trained to fight for the First Order. FN-2187 admits this to Rey, and Kylo Ren states to General Hux that perhaps Leader Snoke should consider using a clone army, which we can infer that no clones are used in the armies of the First Order. In the Original Trilogy, when you see a Stormtrooper, you are not looking at clones, but these volunteers and conscripts. When you see Stormtroopers in The Force Awakens, none of them are clones.
I've seen this one a disturbingly high number of times as well. When Darth Vader kills The Emperor, saving his son Luke on the throne room of the Second Death Star, he fulfills his destiny, as the Chosen One, bringing balance to The Force. This event does not occur in the waning moments of Revenge of the Sith, as their are (as some people unfortunately think) two Jedi, in Yoda and Obi-Wan, and two Sith, in Darth Vader and The Emperor. Balance in The Force does not mean that there are an equal number of Jedi and Sith in the galaxy. Think of bringing balance to The Force as synonymous with bringing peace to the galaxy. The prophecy is referring to the one that would bring the eradication of the Sith, not the one that makes their numbers equal. There are two Sith in The Phantom Menace, are people really believing that there is a prophecy stating that if the Jedi numbers were also brought down to two that The Force would be in balance? What the Jedi know as balance in The Force is peace to the Galaxy, which Anakin ultimately brings with the destruction of the last of the Sith.
The first Star Wars movie I saw was attack of the clones and that was it for another couple years so I always thought that all the troopers were clones