Jar JAr is a SITH!!!
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shadowbreech (12/02/2015) [+] (10 replies)
stickied by MuahahaOfLore
I don't care if it's true or not, I just want to see how you'd incorporate a Lightsaber into a martial art like the Drunken Fist...
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ofthebrave (12/01/2015) [-]
This is fantastic.
I consume conspiracy videos like a post-911 Fox Mulder
I consume conspiracy videos like a post-911 Fox Mulder
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therockofshame ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] You would love Game of Thrones. Assuming you haven't watched it already.
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ofthebrave (12/04/2015) [-]
I'm more of a "Song of Ice and Fire" guy myself, but the show is pretty entertaining.
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therockofshame ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] My problem with book fans is that they overreact to everything different about the show.
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ofthebrave (12/04/2015) [-]
I think you mean "butthurt and overly vocal book fans"
but I get your meaning.
but I get your meaning.
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protectorofjam ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] I never trusted that pointy eyed big eared ****** when I was a kid.
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lametitan 
(12/02/2015) [-] Even if it's confirmed to be false i still think it would be a pretty fun thing to believe since it makes a gimmicky character that much more interesting to some
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hadrian (12/02/2015) [-] I don't buy for a second that Jar Jar is a Sith, but the argument for him being some other kind of dark side force user is certainly plausible. Perhaps he's a backwater dark side adept that Palpatine used for his agenda. Formerly canon sources show that he had a lot of dark side force users serving him that were not Sith.
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anon (12/02/2015) [-]
I may be mistaken, I'm not too clued up on Star Wars trivia myself, but I think the original plan for Jar Jar was to be an incredible Bounty Hunter, but Lucas was pressured into adding more comedy relief into the saga, ending up with this floppy eared bag of **** .
It would explain why he's so proficient at staying alive and killing, as that would of already been scripted. They just made it more... Cartoony, to make him the Jar Jar we all know and loathe.
It would explain why he's so proficient at staying alive and killing, as that would of already been scripted. They just made it more... Cartoony, to make him the Jar Jar we all know and loathe.
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ultimatebuttercup (12/02/2015) [-] No. I refuse to accept this.
Also I think there are too many intuitive leaps to come to this sort of conclusion. Jar Jar and Palpatine are both from Naboo. Both species were not in regular contact with each other, so Jar Jar learning the ways of the Sith from Palpatine was unlikely. On top of that Gungans were not space faring. A REASONABLE intuitive leap is that the Gungans were so reclusive from the Naboo and would have no desire to explore the stars where they could meet other species. So how would Jar Jar be a Sith Master either trained by Palpatine or by another if his training would have had to exclusively happen on Naboo?
Also, it seems highly unlikely that Jar Jar would have been the Sith Master that trained Palpatine because of the fact that Jar Jar is stuck on Naboo so he couldnt learn the ways of the Sith except through self exploration, something that would take a long time despite appearing to be a youth of his race. So if it is highly unlikely that Jar Jar trained Palpatine, then what if Palpatine trained Jar Jar? There is the Rule of Two stating that there can only be one master and one apprentice. The Rule of Two was broken by Darth Plagueis master, then in turn by Plagueis himself with Palpatine. Palpatine/Darth Sidious took on Darth Maul as an apprentice while he was technically an apprentice to Plagueis. So it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE that Jar Jar is a disciple of the Sith, but the timetable is kind of suspect. It is the fact that it is unlikely that a Gungan would interact or be findable by the people of Naboo, the fact that after Sidious was discovered by Plagueis he was taken to a different planet to train, means that the "discovery" of Jar Jar would be less likely since Plagueis and Sidious were not bound to stay on Naboo. Binks may have been an exile in the VAST wilderness of Naboo, but I still dont see him as being some force sensitive master, it is still unlikely that he would just be found wandering and then taken in, then become a badass Sith, then return to Naboo and act the idiot around every turn. It is a stretch to believe that all the unlikely events would happen that would bring Jar Jar to the dark side of the force. And just because he was, at a couple points, a driving force for the story in Episode 1, IT IS FAR MORE LIKELY THAT PALPATINE/SIDIOUS MANUVERED BINKS AT CERTAIN POINTS IN THE NARRATIVE.
Also the **** with Binks sabotaging the Naboo cruiser is ******** . He would not have a motive for it, if the whole reason that Sidious wanted to control the power of the republic was to create a war that would demand intervention from the senate (which only would have happened because of the escape of the Naboo Cruiser to warn the senate of the plight of Naboo. If Binks was a Sith Master above Sidious (impossible), or his apprentice (unlikely) it still wouldnt have worked to the ends that Sidious was after.
While Obi Wan may not believe in luck, scoundrels may in fact be force sensitive because of the nature of their abilities to sometimes sense events that will unfold unfavorably. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT JAR JAR IS FORCE SENSITIVE, and it is very possible that he plays a guiding role in the path of Anikin Skywalker because the prophecy of the one who brings balance to the force is being brought about by his part because he is SOMEWHAT FORCE SENSITIVE. I mean that is a far more reasonable explination without all the unliklyhoods of Binks being a Master Sith.
Also I think there are too many intuitive leaps to come to this sort of conclusion. Jar Jar and Palpatine are both from Naboo. Both species were not in regular contact with each other, so Jar Jar learning the ways of the Sith from Palpatine was unlikely. On top of that Gungans were not space faring. A REASONABLE intuitive leap is that the Gungans were so reclusive from the Naboo and would have no desire to explore the stars where they could meet other species. So how would Jar Jar be a Sith Master either trained by Palpatine or by another if his training would have had to exclusively happen on Naboo?
Also, it seems highly unlikely that Jar Jar would have been the Sith Master that trained Palpatine because of the fact that Jar Jar is stuck on Naboo so he couldnt learn the ways of the Sith except through self exploration, something that would take a long time despite appearing to be a youth of his race. So if it is highly unlikely that Jar Jar trained Palpatine, then what if Palpatine trained Jar Jar? There is the Rule of Two stating that there can only be one master and one apprentice. The Rule of Two was broken by Darth Plagueis master, then in turn by Plagueis himself with Palpatine. Palpatine/Darth Sidious took on Darth Maul as an apprentice while he was technically an apprentice to Plagueis. So it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE that Jar Jar is a disciple of the Sith, but the timetable is kind of suspect. It is the fact that it is unlikely that a Gungan would interact or be findable by the people of Naboo, the fact that after Sidious was discovered by Plagueis he was taken to a different planet to train, means that the "discovery" of Jar Jar would be less likely since Plagueis and Sidious were not bound to stay on Naboo. Binks may have been an exile in the VAST wilderness of Naboo, but I still dont see him as being some force sensitive master, it is still unlikely that he would just be found wandering and then taken in, then become a badass Sith, then return to Naboo and act the idiot around every turn. It is a stretch to believe that all the unlikely events would happen that would bring Jar Jar to the dark side of the force. And just because he was, at a couple points, a driving force for the story in Episode 1, IT IS FAR MORE LIKELY THAT PALPATINE/SIDIOUS MANUVERED BINKS AT CERTAIN POINTS IN THE NARRATIVE.
Also the **** with Binks sabotaging the Naboo cruiser is ******** . He would not have a motive for it, if the whole reason that Sidious wanted to control the power of the republic was to create a war that would demand intervention from the senate (which only would have happened because of the escape of the Naboo Cruiser to warn the senate of the plight of Naboo. If Binks was a Sith Master above Sidious (impossible), or his apprentice (unlikely) it still wouldnt have worked to the ends that Sidious was after.
While Obi Wan may not believe in luck, scoundrels may in fact be force sensitive because of the nature of their abilities to sometimes sense events that will unfold unfavorably. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT JAR JAR IS FORCE SENSITIVE, and it is very possible that he plays a guiding role in the path of Anikin Skywalker because the prophecy of the one who brings balance to the force is being brought about by his part because he is SOMEWHAT FORCE SENSITIVE. I mean that is a far more reasonable explination without all the unliklyhoods of Binks being a Master Sith.
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ultimatebuttercup (12/02/2015) [-] Another thing, there were moments where Binks talked people into to doing things. A different explination that I could pose was that Palpatine was a Sith Lord and possessed the power to control Binks because he was such a colossal idiot. It is far more likely that Binks is so stupid that when he makes his speeches to the Senate that he is speaking because Palpatine was controlling him.
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planetpluto (12/02/2015) [-] Damn that's a long spoiler, i kinda want to read it but i didn't come here for a novel
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likeacupcake ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] Long story short:
Gunguns are extremely xenophobic, there was next to no chance a non ambassador like Jar jar ever meeting any human, specially seeing as they're on the opposite side of the planet (core is quickest route)
Unless Jar jar is far older than he appears to be, Palpatine would have had to train him, not the other way around.
Naboo was a fluke, it was the one time when the Sith's plan was in the most jeopardy. Maul was sent to get their asses into gear and scare them into running to the senate.
There is the possibility that Jar jar is a Sith, but it's "Throw a ball to the moon" likely (i.e. its possible, just not going to happen any time soon)
Gunguns are extremely xenophobic, there was next to no chance a non ambassador like Jar jar ever meeting any human, specially seeing as they're on the opposite side of the planet (core is quickest route)
Unless Jar jar is far older than he appears to be, Palpatine would have had to train him, not the other way around.
Naboo was a fluke, it was the one time when the Sith's plan was in the most jeopardy. Maul was sent to get their asses into gear and scare them into running to the senate.
There is the possibility that Jar jar is a Sith, but it's "Throw a ball to the moon" likely (i.e. its possible, just not going to happen any time soon)
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schneidend ONLINE (12/04/2015) [-] Jar Jar was banished. He could literally go anywhere he wanted.
We don't know how gungan aging works, as far as I'm aware. Also, the Force, particularly the Dark Side, can sustain a practitioner in their prime for upwards of hundreds of years longer than their normal expected lifespan.
We don't know how gungan aging works, as far as I'm aware. Also, the Force, particularly the Dark Side, can sustain a practitioner in their prime for upwards of hundreds of years longer than their normal expected lifespan.
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ultimatebuttercup (12/02/2015) [-] I could not have summed it up better myself. Thank you.
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ultimatebuttercup (12/02/2015) [-] Basically, I rant about why I dont accept Jar Jar as a Sith Lord and possible plot holes in the conspiracy of Binks being a Sith. A lot of my point is based around reasonable intuitive leaps of logic. The video takes this to the extreme with the most outrageous explanation as the one he believes is correct vs the probable explanations for his evidence that make more sense and the more sensible conclusions that could be based off of that.
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MuffinMan ONLINE (12/02/2015) [-] This theory makes two fatal assumptions, that the worst character to ever curse the Star Wars universe is at all competent at anything, and that 2000's George Lucas went that far out of his way for an idea he wouldn't capitalize on.
And people seem to think that this would make the prequels better. No, they'd be even dumber if this were true.
And people seem to think that this would make the prequels better. No, they'd be even dumber if this were true.
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professorrowan (12/02/2015) [-]
I think this is interesting but I think clumsy accident prone jar jar is more entertaining
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professorrowan (12/02/2015) [-]
that's because they expect him to be a serious character, when he is supposed to be a comedy character
