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mum George Lucas
I sold the rights for Star / N/ ; to Disney. But I didn' t
sell the right to complain about it
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#1 - TrekieTwo (01/06/2016) [-]
Now this is podracing!
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#94 to #1 - nightmarexnxnxnxnx ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Good guy Drogo, working for the team being busy fueling her fuselage.
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User avatar #10 to #1 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
Is that the dragon princess person from game of thrones banging a black dude?
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#12 to #10 - thesovereigngrave (01/06/2016) [-]
Not a black dude.
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#18 to #12 - xsap (01/06/2016) [-]
hes also the new aquaman
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User avatar #28 to #18 - ljxjlos (01/07/2016) [-]
Still kinda pissed that we´re not getting underwater-aryan aquaman
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#76 to #28 - krayon (01/07/2016) [-]
**krayon used "*roll picture*"**
**krayon rolled image** Aquaman was Hitler's wet dream...pun probably intended.
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User avatar #32 to #28 - xsap (01/07/2016) [-]
well. hes half German half native Hawaiian but somehow looks greek and since Atlantes was said to be a Greek city the comic book aqua man is kinda wrong
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User avatar #33 to #32 - ljxjlos (01/07/2016) [-]
Is he, now? Neat.

Not really "wrong", just their own idea of the myth. It´s just that I really like Aquaman (he´s one of my two favorite DC-Characters), so I´d have liked to see a more comic-orientated version...but well, I´m still going to watch the movie...
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#37 to #33 - xsap (01/07/2016) [-]
>aquaman is my favorite

what,next you gonna tell me you like hawkeye

hes german, irish, native american and native hawaiin but hawaiins and americans are pretty much the same so...
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#38 to #37 - ljxjlos (01/07/2016) [-]
Aquaman and Constantine, yeah. Pretty much nobody else in the DCU gets close.

Hawkeye isn´t really a favorite, but his newer series where fantastic.

Nice to see someone even part german being aquaman to be honest. Normally we only get to be the evil guys.
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#39 to #38 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
I take it you must love Michael Fassbender then?
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User avatar #40 to #39 - ljxjlos (01/07/2016) [-]
He´s ************* Magneto, so...duh.

Seriously, tho, he´s cool.
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User avatar #64 to #37 - immatakeaduty (01/07/2016) [-]
native americans look similar to polynesian folks, but we are not pretty much the same.
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User avatar #66 to #64 - xsap (01/07/2016) [-]
both came from asia. hawaiians are more south east asians americans are north east asians
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User avatar #68 to #66 - immatakeaduty (01/07/2016) [-]
well, no...so, alaskan natives were born of the russian native tribes centuries ago, they used the land bridge to come across. Tribes like the apache and navajo came from southern north america, mexico and the like. plains natives, blackfoot and chippewa came out of the north, unsure of their original lineage but I doubt they made the journey from asia to canada.

I can keep going, but iff'n you're thinkin I'm an asian, I've clearly wasted enough of my time.

but keep on keepin on, i bet those militia fellas in oregon could use a hand.
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User avatar #71 to #68 - immatakeaduty (01/07/2016) [-]
and in all actuality, due to the rule of Genghis Khan, we're all a little asian, so I correct myself.
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User avatar #72 to #71 - immatakeaduty (01/07/2016) [-]
additionally, by your logic, all I am is northwestern african, right?

Because we all came from africa, you know, the cradle of life and all?
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User avatar #73 to #70 - xsap (01/07/2016) [-]
well you see ma ***** . yes the human genome came from Africa, but we are homo-sapiens sapiens. the Cro-Magnon aka early modern humans originated from Europe and asi and few areas in the middle east.
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User avatar #74 to #73 - immatakeaduty (01/07/2016) [-]
lol, i've never seena reply to a deleted comment, kinda neat. I just moved them under my other comment.
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User avatar #127 to #18 - arreatface (01/07/2016) [-]
thats badass as ****
if there's a guy capable to portray a badass aquaman then its him
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#130 to #18 - echsa (01/07/2016) [-]
so aquaman ****** the dragon princess? NEAT
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#19 to #18 - applescryatnight (01/06/2016) [-]
canceled
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User avatar #20 to #19 - xsap (01/06/2016) [-]
what? no way, hes in the batman v superman movie
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#22 to #20 - applescryatnight (01/06/2016) [-]
ah **** , my bad fam. a friend and i were talking about it a while back and he told me it was cancelled. i guess i took his word for it and didnt check. i checked just now and i couldnt find a source on the aquaman movie, but i did find some articles about the justice league movie being cancelled, which is probably what my friend was talking about.
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User avatar #89 to #22 - timoyr ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
They start production on Justice League next month. It isn't cancelled. Zack Snyder actually talked about it yesterday.
You probably looked info on the George Miller cancelled Justice League that was supposed to come out on like in 2009
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#90 to #89 - applescryatnight (01/07/2016) [-]
all the knowledge i ever seek out turns into lies.
but at least i have a justice league movie to look forward too.
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User avatar #13 to #12 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
who the **** is that?
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#24 to #13 - skyfoogle (01/07/2016) [-]
The actor also played Ronon Dex from Stargate: Atlantis
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User avatar #15 to #13 - thesovereigngrave (01/06/2016) [-]
Character from Game of Thrones. Dragon Princess person's husband.
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User avatar #16 to #15 - distortedflare ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
Don't watch the show but thanks for the info.
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User avatar #17 to #16 - thesovereigngrave (01/06/2016) [-]
No problem.
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User avatar #34 to #12 - crixuz [OP](01/07/2016) [-]
He has beautiful mascara.
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#45 to #1 - ohemgeezus (01/07/2016) [-]
Can't have podracing without some music, though
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User avatar #78 to #45 - HaloDiego (01/07/2016) [-]
Source?
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User avatar #96 to #78 - absolutelynyet ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Song: Bend Ova - Lil Jon
I don't think there's a source available to find anywhere for the video. Bad luck.
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#55 - sedativechunk (01/07/2016) [-]
**sedativechunk used "*roll picture*"**
**sedativechunk rolled image** < George Lucas's secret mistress
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User avatar #92 to #55 - creamgravy (01/07/2016) [-]
Unreal Tournament Holy Shit Sound Holy **** what a roll
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User avatar #85 to #55 - ogthegreat (01/07/2016) [-]
The roll gods. They are real.
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#111 to #55 - mrsixinch (01/07/2016) [-]
**mrsixinch used "*roll picture*"**
**mrsixinch rolled image** All praise the roll gods
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#56 to #55 - krooze (01/07/2016) [-]
**krooze used "*roll picture*"**
**krooze rolled image**ohhh yeahhh
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#109 to #56 - balasla (01/07/2016) [-]
**balasla used "*roll picture*"**
**balasla rolled image**Jim you are on a roll!
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#9 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
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#4 - puns (01/06/2016) [-]
i have the one without text but i like this better
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#58 to #4 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
i have the one without text but this ones more relevant
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User avatar #61 to #58 - berengar (01/07/2016) [-]
How is it more relevant?
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User avatar #31 - infinitereaper (01/07/2016) [-]
Disney these days gives me that "cult vibe" that even Apple can muster,
something about the Disney towns, the high prices, forced smiles, and the aggressive branding,
they can market anything and turn it into gold by throwing enough money at it
the whole Disney culture is so forced it's kinda creepy
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User avatar #36 to #31 - thepizzadevourer (01/07/2016) [-]
Not to mention they own like, half of the entertainment industry.
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User avatar #108 to #36 - xsap (01/07/2016) [-]
is your avator being forced to smile by didny
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User avatar #139 to #108 - thepizzadevourer (01/07/2016) [-]
Maybe
*sniff*
Maybe
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#95 - paynetrayne (01/07/2016) [-]
How about a whole ******* movie about pod racing. The force can go **** itself. I will trade everything about star wars that is cool for 7 installments of Vin diesel racing pods.
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User avatar #6 - zaggystirdust (01/06/2016) [-]
So wait, why do people hate George Lucas?
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#102 to #6 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Because he's a talentless hack?
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#77 to #6 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Because he's a total faggot who ruined his own legacy with **** films and edits?

Hell, watch red tails, he's a **** director. Star Wars was saved in editing.
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User avatar #8 to #6 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-]
How should I know?
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#26 to #8 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
fck off retard
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User avatar #29 to #26 - superblade (01/07/2016) [-]
r00d
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#30 to #29 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
its ok, its a running gag
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User avatar #113 to #30 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
So you really do love me after all!
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#138 to #113 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
Kill yourself
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User avatar #140 to #138 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Fck off retard
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#148 to #140 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
fagola
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User avatar #149 to #148 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
kiss me
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#150 to #149 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
you are a genuine retard faggot
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User avatar #151 to #150 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
you are a genuine cutie pie
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#152 to #151 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
this is ******* a homo gay
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User avatar #153 to #152 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Then let me **** your vagina
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#154 to #153 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
you can **** my gf's vagina
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User avatar #155 to #154 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Yours is tighter , that slut can watch us have some fun ;)
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#156 to #155 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
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#160 to #159 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
bye forever retard
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User avatar #161 to #26 - tarabostes ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
See ya on autism ;D
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#7 to #6 - anon (01/06/2016) [-]
Because they are ******** that actively look for things to complain about before shoving their EU up their asses at night
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User avatar #23 to #6 - cheesedreamer (01/06/2016) [-]
Because he made ****** prequels, but people tend to forget he's actually quite a nice guy.
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#14 to #6 - loyallykupo (01/06/2016) [-]
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....circa 1977....a movie was released. This movie whent by the name of 'Star Wars(insert trademark symbol)'. This movie would go on to impress and captivate many a nerd and geek with its amazing setting. The movie ended up becoming a trilogy with all these movies being decent in thier own way.

Fast forward 22 years after the release of "Star Wars" to the release of a prequel movie known as " Star Wars: The Phantom Menance." It had been many years of hiatus for the series and anticipation for this prequel movie was fever-pitch with many fans eagerly waiting to once again travel into a galaxy far away with lightsabers in hand. With the release of the movie on May, 19 1999, it would go on to major financial success. However, critics and audiences would go on to say that the movie was mediocre citing heavyhanded exposition, bland characters, and an infamous Jar Jar Binks for the negative reviews.

The next two movies of the prequel trilogy would go on to suffer the same fate and with this many would come to realize George Lucas' writing was nothing all too good to begin with. Also because of his incompetence it gave way to a mess of other "Star Wars" media that had to be approved according to his vision of the franchise. This mess of contradictory media would go on to cause more disdain with the fans that George Lucas would go on to declare the whole lot not part of the established canon, meaning good gems that actually had some good quality were now nonexistent in the eyes of George Lucas.

TL; DR: George Lucas dun goofed with his franchise and calls reset because of the mess he has made. That is why I dislike him at least.
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#21 to #14 - kewlkrayfish (01/06/2016) [-]
GIF
I like the prequels, something about the politics and the different worlds and spaceships and unique aliens is super satisfying. Palpatine is a ******* boss though, and the prequels made him my favorite character.
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#49 to #21 - LarsGoes (01/07/2016) [-]
gotta say, i like palpatine and i like the actor very much too, but i think they ****** up the "scarred" post-lightning palpatine visually (also the voice was a bit off directly after the incident)
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User avatar #52 to #21 - IrishSasquatch (01/07/2016) [-]
Palpatine's a lil' bitch Compared to Emperor Vitiate at least
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#48 to #21 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
I like the prequels when I watch the anti cheese versions

no cheesy dialogue (for the most part) trade federation and scenes where there are gungans and jar jar have been redubbed with some fake alien language with subtitles.
the big changes are mainly with episode one, tried watching episode 1 for the 2nd time since it's release because of the jar jar being a sith theory, after 40 minutes it was obvious that it was nonsense, and also I was reminded of all the things that were oh so bad about it. So uh yeah after all that I could only finish the non cheese version of the film which I recommend

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#50 to #48 - LarsGoes (01/07/2016) [-]
but like with all the hobbit fanedits you just notice that those versions are extremely cut, mainly because of "empty" (yes even more than the full versions) dialogue and sudden scene changes, especially with interrupted sound
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#81 to #50 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
these weren't "empty"
it just out alot of the stuff that wasn't needed. scenes that just didn't add anything to it at all, and all the poorly written dialogue between anakin and padme
you might say that it's important to establish the chemistry and relationship but the fact is it doesn't do that with the scenes fully intact, all the important stuff is there, you still have jar jar, the gungans and the podracing.
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#110 to #14 - saintlich (01/07/2016) [-]
Phantom Menace was bad, not gonna defend the movie as a whole, but the things to break down are
1. Jar Jar **** wit was a character of significant importance unlike C3P0, he wasn't a plugged in there character, he served a purpose. Also Sith lord theroy
2. Of all the Characters in Star Wars Obi-Wan has become mine, and many others, favorite because of how well the prequels portrayed him. Luke was a pair of pants, a good pair, but a pair none the less. I only began to care for him in The Return of the Jedi, it toke 3 movies for me to care for a character. Anakin on the other hand was a cunt, he was an annoying kid, an emo teenager and stupid adult, despite that i cared to see where he would go, what would become of this lil prick to turn him into Darth Vader and Episode 3 did a ******* amazing job of why. Point i'm making is characters where slightly better in prequels I would point out the good ones of the original trilogy but all you fanboys already know that
3. The star wars world was best portrayed in the prequels which lead way to even more and IMO better EU.
4. Also the prequels may have contained the The Phantom wreck but both the clone wars and especially the Revenge of the Sith where good stand alone but also helped improve the Original trilogy. Some opinions will vary depending on whether or not you before knowing Vader or not.
Tl DR Nostalgia is a dangerous thing and you should not let it lead cloud your judgement. Revenge of the Sith best movie
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User avatar #147 to #110 - loyallykupo (01/07/2016) [-]
I agree completely. I first watched the prequels before touching the original trilogy and I enjoyed them immensely. I was just in the mood to write some condensed history before I whent to a 7'o clock showing of "The Force Awakens" yesterday, coincidentally. I love "Star Wars" no matter what time period of the history they put it in. That being said I can see why people have some disdain for certain points in its overarching story. I have even tried to introduce my friends to the series and they would leave my house dazed and confused at what they just watched. Maybe my friends are not "nerd" enough to get it but it shows that some people that walk into it will be grasping straws. In the end I believe if you enjoy the series then that is all that matters. I know I do.
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#137 to #110 - anothergun (01/07/2016) [-]
The thing is, whether or not you analyze the crap out of a movie, the story, structure etc, what really matters is if you are having a good time watching it. And even though the prequals have some amazing lightsaber battles, the rest of the movies are boring ******** that makes one fall asleep. I watched the two first prequals before the original trilogy when I was a kid, and I loved the originals while I thought the prequals were boring. In other words, the prequals should be nostalgic to me, not the originals, but I knew what movies were exciting or not.

I agree that Revenge is the best prequal though.
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#27 to #14 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
they SHOULD to a reset. with the prequels at least. they dun goof'd when they didn't make darth maul the main baddie of all 3 prequels then it would have been consistent.
originals: darth vader
prequels: darth maul
sequels: kylo ren
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User avatar #42 to #27 - sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Palpatine will forever be the best villian in Star Wars history. If you watch the Clone Wars you will see just why.
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#43 to #42 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
I watched a few episodes, couldn't get into it knowing how many episodes there are
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User avatar #51 to #43 - sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
RIP.
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User avatar #11 to #6 - ogomer (01/06/2016) [-]
Because he started revising the original star wars movies; adding cgi and swapping out original character appearances such as Anakin's ghost in The Return of the Jedi. Also Jar Jar Binks and Ewoks.
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#41 to #11 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
I actually kinda liked the Anakin ghost, gave it some more closure. However, most of everything else I really don't see the point. He just seen empty spaces and thought "you know what would look great there? A nice goofy alien."
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#25 to #11 - caette (01/07/2016) [-]
there's a lot more changed to the originals than just the adding the ghost. even in return of the jedi in the club scene with jaba the hut, the fat alien singing lady was originally a puppet then it was replaced by cgi with a changed voice that is waaay more annoying that the original
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User avatar #35 to #6 - thepizzadevourer (01/07/2016) [-]
G.L. is actually quite a nice guy IMHO, but he's not the best movie maker. He's excellent at creating deep and believable universes, but he's not the best at creating characters. He can also get fixated on ideas that he thinks would be great and shoehorn them into the story regardless of whether or not they fit well. He used to rely on outside help (good writers/directors) to make up for his character creation issues and to help him weed out his bad ideas, but after Empire Strikes Back I feel like the success went to his head and now he acts like his ideas are beyond reproach.

Case in point: it was Lucas that (almost literally) forced the ideas of aliens in Indiana Jones 4 down Steven Spielberg's throat. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Kingdom_of_the_Crystal_Skull#Development
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User avatar #47 to #5 - sgtmajjohnson ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Seriously, he compared Disney to slavers when he was talking about selling Star Wars, ignoring the fact that if anyone ****** up his franchises, it was him. Indiana Jones rape Video related, essentially what Lucas (and Spielberg) did to Indiana Jones with the 4th movie. I can deal with the ******** in the prequels, but it's irritating that he retroactively worsened the original trilogy with his ******** changes. It's also difficult to respect Vader as a villain when you know about how much of a little bitch he was as Anakin.
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User avatar #75 to #47 - gawkycrayon (01/07/2016) [-]
holy **** that text, please the eyes have never hurt so much
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User avatar #80 to #75 - austinrocket (01/07/2016) [-]
Ctrl + a
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User avatar #82 to #80 - pyrointheface (01/07/2016) [-]
holy **** your a genius
thank you so much
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#128 to #80 - thrifty (01/07/2016) [-]
10/10 amazing use of select all.
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User avatar #126 to #47 - cisdroidcommander (01/07/2016) [-]
He did apologize for the slavers analogy.
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#53 to #5 - ygdosst (01/07/2016) [-]
"Just because the fans seem to like their ideas"
HOLD THE ******* PHONE
I've heard damn near nothing but complaining about episode VII, and sure it's a loud minority, but it contains a massively disproportionate higher percentage of dedicated fans, since the total populus that saw the movie are far from exclusively just the hardcore fans of Sar Wars.

Lucas is a hack that has more of an addiction to CGI, thsn Charlie Sheen had to Cocaine, Tiger's Blood, and Adonis's DNA, but Disney definitely needs to step up their game. Especially on the clarity and explanation front. They commit a lot of the same sins as Lucas in that they asked "What would be cool?" rather than "What would be cool because it makes sense?"
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User avatar #97 to #53 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
From everyone I've talked to, the only complaints we have are that the new sith lord is too forgettable.
Spoilers for anyone who somehow hasn't watched it yet below...
Also, the way that Kylo Ren throws those temper tantrums makes it hard to take seriously. I know that jedis are supposed to keep their emotions under control all the time and siths give in to emotions, but that's just too over the top. Also, I don't think it was bad that the episode 7 plot was so similar to episode 4 - they had to prove that they could make a good Star Wars movie after the distrust the prequels left us, and now they should have the trust and creative freedom to do what they want with 8 and 9.
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User avatar #135 to #97 - questionableferret ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I'll give you some complaints.

1) Poe Dameron:
When you write for long enough you start to see the skeleton of other peoples work and it's pretty clear when you watch TFA that Poe was meant to be with Finn and Rey for a while. However, in the film he disappears (almost literally) and then out of nowhere re-appears on a different planet despite not having even attempted to complete his mission on Tatooine (yes I know they call it Jakku but it is visibly and functionally indistinct from Tatooine so I'ma call it Tatooine).

What is more, he actually gets back BEFORE the main characters make it to Yavin IV (See Tatooine complaint) because he then shows up in an X-Wing to blow some **** up.

Now it's obvious what actually happened here. Poe was meant to be with the main cast and Poe was meant to be the one that flew the Falcon because Disney wasn't sure wether or not they would get Ford back for the role, however once Ford re-appeared there was no need for Poe (except to take-off from the planet's surface which they could get Rey to do instead), however they didn't write Poe completely out of the movie because Finn still needed to escape and BB-8 needed an owner so Poe just appears, does cool stuff, disappears, and then re-appears later.

That is shoddy scriptwriting and it is symptomatic of the problem with the film. Namely that the people in charge 'almost' cared enough to make it good. I'll elaborate.

2) Creative Bankruptcy:
This is the biggest complaint that the film could receive given that it is a Star Wars film. Kylo Ren? That is a stumble that can be fixed in external material, similar to Greivous, but the creative bankruptcy of the film can not.

To put this in perspective, Lucas is now and has always been a ******* MASTER of worldbuilding. Lucas worldbuilds like nobody's business and it is what made him a billionaire. His ability to paint a picture of a vast and expansive universe with only so many strokes is evident even in the prequels. The Cantina and Podrace scenes are the best example of this skill of his because they are him at his best and his worst.

The Cantina is an homage to the Wild West. It is a raucous but not intrusively loud scene whereby the vastness of the galaxy is alluded to through the patrons of the bar, and the hostility of the galaxy is alluded to firstly through the confrontation at the bar, then through Greedo, then through the Empire. All the while we are learning important details about our characters and the universe.

Meanwhile the Podrace is an homage to Ben Hur's chariots and it feels 100% at home in the Star Wars setting, even if it realistically didn't need to happen and actually makes less sense than the logical alternatives the characters had to choose from.

So at his best Lucas bathed the viewer in relevant information beyond the reach of the scene, and at his worst he distracted with something ridiculously cool but pointless.

Why do I say this? Because TFA has 3 cases of this. TR-8R, Phasma, and BB-8. Nothing else in the film is new to the universe, or at least in a meaningful way. We see new planets that are copies of old ones. We see a new superweapon that is a copy of an old one. We see a new order to replace the Empire that is functionally just the Empire without even a new coat of paint.

The point is that Star Wars has always been as much about compelling and unique visuals as it has been about its story and morals, but TFA is utterly bankrupt in that regard. The only indicator that any time has passed at all in the film is Leia and Han look older. Beyond that this could have taken place a week after RotJ because of how poorly information is given to the audience.

Whereas the difference before and during the Empire is instantly apparent visually, nobody cared enough to even update the Tie Fighters in the apparent 30 year gap this time.

TFA in so many ways just rides on Lucas' coat tails. He says they didn't take his ideas? They did. And they added almost nothing to them.
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User avatar #162 to #135 - cisdroidcommander (01/07/2016) [-]
This comment is beautiful, well said.
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User avatar #99 to #97 - kotess (01/07/2016) [-]
Just gonna throw my 2 cents in

Kylo Ren isn't a Sith Lord, or even a Sith, he's the leader (and last) of the Knights of Ren, which we still don't know much about (although the new Aftermath novel trilogy will almost certainly go into it), and he's also an apprentice keep in mind, so he doesn't have full control over his anger and rage, and without that control it seems to be his downfall rather than his source of power as in the teachings of the Sith. So IMO the tantrums are in line with where he's at in his training, still being an apprentice and highly force sensitive as part of the Skywalker bloodline he has issues controlling himself. Idk, they seem a little over the top, but I still think it fits well with his character and progression
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User avatar #100 to #99 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah, I know why it would make sense on all those levels, but it still just seemed a bit too silly. Like, Vader crushed the entire room around him with the force when he first got in the suit because he was emotional, and that falls in line with the sith and what not.
And when I'm calling Kylo a sith, it's because he's training under the new sith master (I can't even remember his name it's so forgettable...) who stated at the end of the movie that it was time to complete his training. So I get that he's going to be emotional because of what he is; that doesn't mean that it won't seem silly.
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User avatar #101 to #100 - kotess (01/07/2016) [-]
Fair enough, I do think his tantrums are a little overdone, but yeah I get what you mean

Oh and you're thinking of Supreme Leader Snoke
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User avatar #103 to #101 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
Oh yeah, that was his name!

...I don't know if I want him to be that size in person or not (since those were just holograms). It might be cool to see a giant using the force and just being imposing like that, but it could also look really silly. I guess I'll just have to wait until 2017 to find out.
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User avatar #104 to #103 - kotess (01/07/2016) [-]
Can't wait for Rogue One!

And the only thing I disliked about Snoke, was the all-CGI. In a film where Abrams has gone back to the way the originals were made with puppets and animatronics, why in the hell does Snoke need CGI? Some makeup could have the same effect as his facial scarring, and then just blow up a hologram of him.
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User avatar #106 to #104 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed and disliked that aspect of Snoke...

But then again, I think we only notice CGI when that's all we can focus on. When the character interactions/development, plot, etc. are all great, we tend to not notice things like CGI. But when we're not invested in the character or the scene, we have too much time to notice stuff like that, and Snoke really wasn't given much more than just a few short appearances, so picking at the CGI is the little amount we can focus on. Idk, that's just my guess.
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User avatar #107 to #106 - kotess (01/07/2016) [-]
I'd say that about sums it up. It'll be interesting to see his backstory, because JJ has confirmed that he's new to both the canon and non-canon star wars universe, so hopefully he has more full development in 8 and 9
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#121 to #100 - toboz (01/07/2016) [-]
"Vader crushed the entire room around him with the force when he first got in the suit because he was emotional, and that falls in line with the sith and what not. "

Any force user can do that.
That has nothing related to a Sith.

And so far Snoke, isnt a Sith.
And as far as i know, there wont be any Sith in the new movies, because they are being "replaced" by the Knights of Ren.
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User avatar #141 to #121 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
No **** any force user could do that. I was pointing out how even Vader would become destructive and take out his anger when he'd become emotional. It's just instead of swinging his lightsaber around, he'd crush things or choke/kill his subordinates.

And really, what's even the fundamental difference? They're force users who give in to their emotions to use the dark side of the force and the new ones are directly trying to accomplish what the sith tried and failed to do.
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User avatar #142 to #141 - toboz (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah, you just pointed out how retarded Vader was.
Kylo Ren better(as in smarter) alone for not killing random people unnecessarily.
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User avatar #143 to #142 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
He hasn't started doing that yet, you mean. He seems pretty new at it, especially compared to Vader. He also seemed to be struggling on whether or not to fully go to the dark side, and if he does fully embrace it he may become completely ruthless.
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User avatar #144 to #143 - toboz (01/07/2016) [-]
No he isnt.
He is already a better force user than Vader ever was.

And going full dark side isnt not equal to being completely raging faggot.
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User avatar #145 to #144 - AnomynousUser (01/07/2016) [-]
What has he done to show that he's better than Vader? Because I think pinpointing and force choking a person from who knows how far away is pretty ******* impressive... www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV2DLkDPwM8&ab_channel=StarJedi951

I haven't seen Kylo show that level of fine control or range. Nor do I remember seeing him use the sheer amount of force that Vader has used.

"Swinging one's lightsaber around, causing a lot of damage is perfectly fine but crushing rooms and killing people that you don't trust makes you a raging faggot."
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User avatar #146 to #145 - toboz (01/07/2016) [-]
All Vader ever did was force choke.
Which is pretty lame compared to completely freezing people, even laser shots mid-flight.

You see, Vader never shown this level of control and power.
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#120 to #97 - ordog (01/07/2016) [-]
Yep I felt the Kylo Ren was just some angsty teen rather than a danger to the galaxy.
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User avatar #59 to #53 - captinchikin (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah, it really is just a loud minority, the majority of both fans and non fans have enjoyed it from what I've seen and heard
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User avatar #60 to #59 - berengar (01/07/2016) [-]
I really liked it, but I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore fan though. Although I'll admit that it was similar to the plot of A New Hope, however, I felt that that was done well. If they keep that model and start copying the other ones more blatantly, then I might have a problem. But all in all, I had great fun seeing the VII, actually thinking about rewatching it in IMAX this Friday.
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User avatar #62 to #60 - captinchikin (01/07/2016) [-]
I've been a fan since birth because my father was, and I've grown up with the films as my favorite movies. This one was a great experience for me, when the movie ended, I turned to my friends and said "Holy **** ...they actually did it...JJ actually did it!". After watching it more and more, I've noticed some stuff I don't like, but yeah, all around it was pretty great.
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User avatar #63 to #62 - berengar (01/07/2016) [-]
Well, you can't make everyone happy, people were already upset about the Extended Universe bit This movie made me feel like a kid watching the originals with my parents though, so it gets a thumbs up in my book. That scene where the planet starts absorbing the sun actually got me far more excited than any movie has in a long while.
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User avatar #65 to #63 - captinchikin (01/07/2016) [-]
I wasn't a big fan of Starkiller, that and the Rathtars were the main two things I disliked. As someone who read the Expanded Universe stuff after RotJ, I'm glad they didn't try to adapt it into film, and I like these characters more anyway, Kylo Ren is basically the "Jacen Solo" character from the EU
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User avatar #67 to #65 - berengar (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah, I actually like that they didn't try and go the route that was in the book, too complicated to be accurately made into a movie but that's just my opinion. I didn't mind the bit with the Rathtars, but it could be cut out and I wouldn't care too much. I guess I just have a burning indifference towards that part
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User avatar #163 to #67 - captinchikin (01/07/2016) [-]
Yeah, I agree. Welp, some anon keeps coming through and thumbing down this whole conversation for no reason, good talk though.
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User avatar #165 to #163 - berengar (01/07/2016) [-]
Likewise!
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User avatar #129 to #53 - cisdroidcommander (01/07/2016) [-]
How did he have an addiction to CGI?
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User avatar #44 to #5 - akkere (01/07/2016) [-]
The price he sold Lucasfilm and its accompanying assets (i.e. Star Wars which altogether sold for 4.05 billion) always struck me as something unusually low, especially given that Star Wars' biggest appeal from a business perspective is how easy it is to market out merchandise, which is the single most essential component to Disney's franchise management. I figured when I read that he was going to be an advisory for the movies, I thought that meant they were contractually obligated to consistently run by him at least for SOME of his uh... "good ideas", and I was really surprised his actual relationship was limited to a (undisclosed) percentage of revenue from the films and merchandise.
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User avatar #125 to #44 - cisdroidcommander (01/07/2016) [-]
He also donated most of the money he gained from Disney to charity.
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#93 - anon (01/07/2016) [-]
For as much crap as pod racing gets, I think it's one of the most redeeming parts of that movie. The sound design for all the pods was absolutely amazing and still is. The shot towards the end of the laps with the all the pods (literally car seats wired to straight up jet engines, which is awesome by itself) barreling through the desert for the weekend amusement of some random outer rim civilians takes you away from the overall plot and lets you imagine the world they live in, which adds so much more immersion to the story.
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#54 - frostinius (01/07/2016) [-]
**frostinius used "*roll picture*"**
**frostinius rolled image** this is pod racing
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#87 - sherlockbatman ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
**sherlockbatman used "*roll picture*"**
**sherlockbatman rolled image**
"Greedo would've missed anyway." - George Lucas (1944-2022)
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#115 - atheistzilla (01/07/2016) [-]
I'm a pizza delivery driver, and every time a pass a car or make like a risky turn I say "now this is pod racing"out loud.

It can't control it, it just happens. you guys ****** me up
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User avatar #98 - thesinful (01/07/2016) [-]
Don't forget 20 minutes of tax law.
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#132 - jdizzleoffthehizzl (01/07/2016) [-]
I will follow my lord Lucas to death for the universe he gave us, all you whiney EU fanboys can blow it out your ass. The prequels weren't terrible no matter how much you're gonna say "but muhhh taxes and Jar Jars"
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User avatar #133 to #132 - shadowmaul (01/07/2016) [-]
i liked the prequels they werent THAT bad
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User avatar #119 - andywazowski (01/07/2016) [-]
The pod racing was one of the few thing I enjoyed about the prequals. The other side of Tatooine was cool
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#79 - iamrexraptor (01/07/2016) [-]
its funny because something the best part of episode 1 was Darth Maul, duel of the fates, and pod racing. the best part about episode two, 10 minutes of clone wars, best part about episode three, watching anakin burn at the end.
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#131 - benadryl (01/07/2016) [-]
I liked the pod racing scene in Phantom Menace. I liked the how they took care of the non-visual details, like, each pod had it's own characteristic engine sound instead of generic spaceship noise. And the action was actually pretty good in that scene in general. I only hated how most of the characters in the entire prequel trilogy were designed. They looked way too cartoony and silly.
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User avatar #91 - buddywuggle (01/07/2016) [-]
GabeN song
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#88 - captainprincess ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
I liked the pod racing part
I only lament it was completely pointless to wedge it into the movie
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