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I agree

Because it is expertly done :D

May I question as to why?

It's not funny.

Well that's matter of opinion I guess.

My main problem is that it wasn't INTENDED to be funny.

Be that as it may I found it quite humorous

"degenerate furry Lamar Smithgot r34"
"degenerate furry Lamar Smithgot"
"furry"

i dont see furries in the comic

if you read any of the other comments, you will find that the artist who made this commic usually draws furry porn. My comment was to express my surprise at the fact that so many of the fabulous fillies recognized him as such.

if people like diferent things then me i really dont care as long as it doesnt concern me
who am i to judge
at least thats what i think about taboos

im sure the pedophiles, zoophiles, and necrophiliacs share your sentiment. i however do not.

well i said that when it doesnt concern me
when children get scared for lifem,someone have sex with a dead person or a animal and get a disease that can cause severe damage to a human i dont agree
they are interfeering with other peoples lives and damaging them
in those cases they are wrong so i have nothing to do with any of those kind of people

so you are saying that as long as they only masturbate to child porn its alright? and that you have no problem with that?

yeah it may sound like its really bad of me and i probably dont mean it that way
but they arent hurting anyone but be careful with what you interpret from what i just said

*... abusing children isnt hurting anyone (sarcasm)*

im wanted to have a conversation
i dont have that many people to talk about this kind of stuff

understandable, but there was no innocent way to interpret what you said. It was fairly clearly stated.

by the way, comment #222 was a correction because i didnt complete that sentence properly below.

yes, because encouraging and participating in a business franchise revolving around raping and abusing children. Child porn doesn't grow on trees, its made in shady warehouses and stepfather's bedrooms.

what i said is be careful how you interpret that
since there is a crime and children beying messed for life it is a bad thing

even if they were just masturbating to comics of children with adult voice actors acting like children, why would we as a society want to encourage the idea that thinking of children as sexual objects is acceptable? Accepting deviant thoughts only enables and encourages the deviant behavior that they are pleasuring themselves to the thought of. If child pornography was legalized, and made socially acceptable, we as a society would grow used to the concept, and the stigma associated with the act or raping a child would be worn away, untill noone would care.

stop insisting in raping kids i said thats wrong and theres no way around it
also i never said society should encourage something
specially not child pornography

"but they arent hurting anyone"
"if people like diferent things then me i really dont care as long as it doesnt concern me
who am i to judge
at least thats what i think about taboos"
not disproving of something is the same as granting approval.
i am only using pedophilia as an example to get my point across. There are plenty of example of social degradation, many of the less shocking cases are all better for reinforcing my point because over time it has been degraded to the point that we no longer value it at all.

its hard to make a point on the internet i cant really say the things i want they way i want
its just text
also im not good in making a point i have the idea but i cant find the right words to say them
i do find all those 3 very wrong and they do affect others lives in ways mostly not fixable
but what i was trying to refer was to furries they are just cartoons and drawings and people who "like" them arent doing bad to anyone
im not a pedophile at least that i know

true, but by accepting one deviant fetish as "normal" or even "acceptable" we create people who say "I have this horrible fetish, but it's ok, its not THAT much worse than furries" and as a society we grow used the idea and it takes more and more to shock us into caring. Example, if the news reported that one single child died last year in africa, noone would care. Some would even be happy because its normal for over a million to die. A hundred, a thousand, they are just numbers. Two hundred years ago, it was SCANDALOUS or a girl to wear a dress exposing her ANKLES. But over time, societies morals were worn down to the point that the prostitutes of that era were better dressed. Another example, would be ending slavery in the US. That led to black sufferage, and eventually women's sufferage. And now we actually have reverse discrimination. For the people at the time of the end of slavery, if they had know what would result form their decision, they never would have freed the slaves. I am in no way trying to say that we should re-enslave blacks, take away women's right to vote, or that i dont like black people, This is simply the best example of the "slippery slope" concept for a societies morals. By enabling one thing, you open the door for another.

people who do that are weak and pathetic for not accepting their own depravations as sick
i dont like people that use that phrase "well at least im not so bad as him"
but i get your point

the issue is not with the individuals, its with society. If our morals hadnt been so worn down over time, we would never even consider having this conversation.

Just because they arent as bad as people who actually run around fucking horses, corpses, and children, doesnt make it acceptable behavior.

Deviant behavior should never be encouraged simply because you have to think about what will be acceptable when your children are growing up. At this point, being a total fucking whore and fucking half your school is almost an achievement or a goal. Kids are having sex younger and younger and while i obviously had no objections when i was in school, hearing about kids in elementary school trying to get it on just makes me sick. Society has pushed the ideal of sex is good so much that kids who dont even have the hormones to WANT to have sex are trying to fuck. Imagine what it will be like in 20 years, when (or if) you have kids growing up, and think real hard about what will be "socially acceptable" then. If you let something slide now, something twice as bad will be normal then.

i pretty much agree with all you said
i even want to have a daughter in the future but at the same time i am really scared
i dont want to have to beat her for beying a slut and bringing shame to our family
but i really dont know how to deal with something like that other than raising her "like a nun"

well seeing as how "beating them" is illegal (which is completely retarded)
its fairly simple. Aside from doing your best to ensure the world doesnt go to shit and allow the morals of society to degrade to the point that they are barely even visible (something our parent's generation failed at quite abysmally), you just do your best to teach good morals and character. you really cant do any more than that.

i wouldnt beat someone even if i wanted to
but nice talking to you mordin
i dont have many oportunities to have these talks =)

Look at all the pretty purple lines!!!

i enjoyed it as well, to be honest you were the most reasonable and intelligent out of all my discussions over this below as you are the only one to understand what i was trying to say :) i have a great many controversial opinions which usually get me right into the middle of shitstorms because i am about as not "politically correct" as it is possible to be. I speak my mind regardless of how much flak i will get for it which unfortunately tends to piss people off, so if you ever feel like diving headfirst into a shitstorm, hit me up :D

Hey, you probably recognize this couch without having anything aside from the room it's in near it. Heck, you might even know what company uses this couch.
And yet it is a simple black couch, in a simple white-walled office.

I honestly do not recognize that couch at all ._.

I don't either, but apparently it's in an office that is frequently the setting for a porn movie.

oh, okay.

a vast majority of men masturbate, that is why porn is such a booming buisness. But at some point you have to draw the line between men watching porn and degenerate fucks.

I'd like to point out, right now, that masturbating is a "degenerate fuck," literally.
But, as it has so frequently been pointed out to you, Jay Naylor's name is on the picture, and in the description. Also, furry art has many different appearances (sketched, colored, semi-realistic, glossy, etc.), whereas porn is usually (exception of R34) photo-quality, due to being shot with a camera. Already, this categorizing narrows down the artists quite severely. Filter out the artists who don't draw ponies, and you only get a few well-known ones.

right, but heres the catch, a name by itself means nothing. If someone had asked you who Barrack Obama was before he became president, you wouldnt have any idea who the fuck he was. The fact that his name means something to them, they recognise it, know what he usually draws, and then discuss his "work" would be what i am referring to. Reading, and recognition are two completely different things.

The difference, of course, is that there are more people who read Naylor's mostly-SFW comic Original Life than there were people who followed Obama's career before he was running for president.
In case that is wrong, it is incredibly easy to Google a name, and verbal contact and internet commenting operate on two very different time scales; i.e. if your Barack Obama question took place on FJ, I would have much longer to tab to Google, search for his name, and get some quick facts from Wikipedia or somewhere else before I had to answer, whereas in conversation, any more than a few seconds' pause is a faux pas.

fair enough, but i reserve the right to be absolutely disgusted that people are jacking off to animals from a childrens show, regardless of who the fuck they are.

I share that disgust, but there's nothing that will stop them.
Well, short of killing the internet or blowing up the planet.

personally i would recommend lethal injection, but apparently that isn't "politically correct" either. -.-

you got that right, so i toenail clippinged you up

Wow, isn't that a very intellectual and original opinion. It's not bigoted and at all.

Sarcasm

if something is based on fact, say the number of fabulous fillies below who are discussing a furry porn artist's work, how could it be bigoted. I was simply expressing my surprise at the number of fabulous fillies who have lived up to one of thier steryotypes.

I was actually just pointing at the fact that you called us "Lamar Smithgots". Everything else in your comment wasn't even proper English.

I apologize for the fact that i did not submit my previous statements for an editorial review before publishing their contents for the world to see. If you could understand it, and seeing as you know i called you Lamar Smithgots I can quite clearly see you did, then it's correctness was meaningless as my point was still made.

When I said I didn't understand your comment, I meant that everything after you first sentence (kind of a shitty excuse, but it's true nonetheless). Also, it's not just the grammar that is off, it's also the wording. I could barely see the point that you are trying to make.

Look, I don't care if you dislike MLP:FIM. But don't ruin the fun of it for those of us who do. Please, if do want to understand fabulous fillies and the brony community better, watch the 1 (or both) of the following videos: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7... or www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbB...
They're pretty lengthy so brace yourself. Again, please watch them to better yourself and your understanding of us fabulous fillies.

i have watched the first few episodes. I have no desire to watch any more. I really didn't use to have a problem with fabulous fillies, until the Lamar Smithgots on here starting posting thier disgusting brony porn, and plagued things i enjoyed with their childish nonsense. If you as a community are going to shove your degenerate porn tendancies on me, and insert your ponies into things i like for example, space marines, then i am going to do my level best to shove my space marine's boot through your ponies' grey matter. And if i get attacked for stating my surprise at how many of the fabulous fillies viewing this page recognized thier favorite furry artist, all the more reason to rage.

I'll give you a break and say that there are fabulous fillies out there who are into weird things. But that only makes them human, we shouldn't condemn them for it. I see nothing wrong with enjoying furry porn or in that case, any other form of porn. I don't discriminate any fetishes other people simply because I don't enjoy it. Although, I understand that it can be irritating to see it shoved at your face almost everyday. But that doesn't you should hate us as a whole.

Also, the links I gave you are not episode links. They're college presentations of fabulous fillies who explain to non-fabulous fillies why it became so big. It explains every aspect of the show (what it used to be, what it is now, and much more). Like I said, please watch them. And if you're not going to watch neither, then please tell me so that I at least feel like I tried to make a difference.

your about to create a LOT of purple lines with this guy.

Eeyup.

You have my sympathy sir.
*hands you an oar* To swim through the ocean of bullshit coming your way.

Porn genres i take exceptional issues with:
Child porn
Necrophelia
Bestiality
gang rape (i am reffering to their equivalent of snuff videos)
down syndrome porn (and all other porn abusing retards)

making something socially acceptabe to be discussed or thought only leads to making it socially acceptable to do. This is a proven fact of social evolution.

I completely agree with you on this point. Not everything is black and white, there are exceptions. No argument here.
I'm sorry for spamming this but please tell me whether or not you're going to watch the videos I linked you. This is very important to me if watch them or not. Read the last few sentences of my last comment before this one if want to know what they're about.

i will most likely watch them, even if only to be able to say i have in future arguments. But you have missed the point. The fact that we can agree that there are in fact standards as to what is totally unacceptable to be used as porn material, implies that it is not a stretch for me to say that brony porn be added to that list. Also, saying that one fetish is socially acceptable, means that some really sick fuck out there can say hey, i like to fuck horses, but since brony porn is acceptable, im not THAT weird. And steadily, even THAT becomes socially acceptable, and as peoples minds adjust to that, an even worse man comes along... that is how society works unfortunately.

The problem is that you are relating "brony" porn (which is just furry porn in most situations) to a more abusive fetish, ergo saying that accepting furry porn could lead to accepting bestiality. It's simply not the same thing. I believe that as long as someone has a fetish or watches porn that does not: endanger the well being of another human being and/or animal (dead or alive). As long as it doesn't fall into those categorize, then it's fair game.
Also, I appreciate you for watching those videos I linked you. But trust me, I will never use this as an argument to another person. This will stay between you and me (and everyone that read this thread I guess).

thoughts beget actions. and accepting thoughts enables them. As we become jaded to one thing previously thought to be degenerate, we subconsciously accept something even worse because our minds are "opened". For example, for the first few months of a drawn out war, people are horrified and staggered by casualties and death tolls. As people become used to it, it takes larger and larger death tolls to shock us, and more horrific atrocities to cause us to even begin to care. After hearing of millions dying daily in Africa, people care less. Its nothing new, and is the same as it always was, is and will be. The fact that simply by saying "ive seen worse" allows us to dismiss what we see before us does not make my point any less valid. I don't expect you to understand or appreciate my point, i am simply stating it as that is what and how i think. And when i said i might use it in a future argument, only so much as when someone says "you obviously dont know what you are talking about/havent seen the show/etc."

I understand and accept your point. But to me it sounds too similar to the argument against gay marriage which is: "If homosexual people are allowed to be married then people will soon start marrying toasters or animals". I think we can both agree, this is stupid and bigoted. Also, I extremely doubt that fucking animals will be socially acceptable just because there is a group of people watch furry porn. Another problem with your argument is that you are relating all fabulous fillies to furries, which is stereotyping.

In conclusion, I feel like this "argument" can go on and on and on and on. We are obviously no going to meet middle ground. So, lets just move on with our lives. No one "won" or "lost". If I had to give my final statement, it'll be:
Not all fabulous fillies are furries or vice-versa. Stop stereotyping us and we'll leave you alone. The second you start insulting us is the instant we retaliate.

Because you type smart dose not mean you are smart.

Your logic is based on that you know the exact number of fabulous fillies looking at this stuff (which i dont look at) and amount who do look at it. Its bigoted. No hard facts.

so what you are saying is that before stating an observation i have to have to hire a professional scientist to interrogate every single brony, and then proceed to calculate how many more fabulous fillies are closet fabulous fillies, before my point is valid? The fact that there is so much brony r34 porn in existence is proof enough to substantiate my claim. One degenerate fuck masturbating to animals in a children's show is one too many. the rest are a bonus.

So by your logic since one brony is a furry and faps to r34 then all fabulous fillies do it automatically?
Again fucked logic.
i am living proof that shit is false.
And just from the amount of it dosent even matter.
I avoid the shit out of it cause i dont like it. and hardly see it.
For you to see so much of it you must actively seek it.
So what is it? are you a furry?

I have had to use this picture to often. its getting annoying.

thats because there is only one panel :I

and it says whom made it in the top left corner

For one, glance for a moment at the top left of the panel.

For two, if you know someone's art or music enough, simple giveaways (like the style or body structure) or the first few measures (depends on the artist or composer, iGuess) can give away the creator of the piece.

yes, but my entire point was where they would know his work from. I had no idea who this guy is, but quite a few fabulous fillies appear to know him for his furry porn.

It appears to me that your point was that, from this single panel, people figured out who the artist was... when it was obvious by the upper left text.

Where the artist's name is written.

Maybe I completely misunderstood the part where you didn't say what you meant, and then called a group of people degenerates. /sigh.

Idiot.

very few people have only said "oh that is jay naylor's art". almost all of the people who bothered to mention his name continued to discuss his "work" and regardless, if they know his work well enough to know WHO he is, and associate his work with his name then they fit into my statement perfectly well. Just knowing a name means nothing if you dont have immages to stamp it on in your mind.

No, they don't.

"when you glance at the comments, and notice that all of the fabulous fillies can recognize exactly which degenerate furry Lamar Smithgot r34 artist made this from just one fucking pannel... and then makes wonder how it is that these freaks can hate on you for finding it disgusting that people are jacking of to furry/bestiality rule 34 shit from a children's show. "

You're assuming that the people that know of the artist are those people that jack off to furry/beastiality/rule 34 ponies. You're generalizing, which makes you look stupid.

Not everyone that knows of Jay Naylor and can tell his works by looking at the style are these people. Some may just like his style and may not be fabulous fillies at all.

so what you are saying, that a man knew the name of a gay porn actor, knew his work, and could hold a discussion on the matter, it would not be a fair assumption to say that he most likely used the material he was viewing for it's intended purpose?

Not the best comparison, but okay.

You're now assuming that Jay has created his work for the intent of people fapping to it. How sure of that are you?

personally, i don't know of many uses for "furry porn". But hey, if you want to print out posters to decorate your little kids new room, go for it!

You do realize that Jay has a comic that isn't furry porn, which is probably where a lot of people that do know him really know him from, right? He has an adult section, but the SFW comic looks pretty good, tbh.

You sure like to assume things...

P.S. I would gladly print out posters of the SFW comics for my kid's room.

Let's hope I don't have a kid until I get out of high school, neh?

All i had to go on were the fabulous fillies below discussing his furry porn. i apologize that your fellow little girls didn't go into detail on anything besides his furry porn, next time someone brings up some random disgusting genre of fetish porn that i want nothing to do with, ill be sure to look him up and ask if he has any other unrelated work

K.

You know the world has gone to shit when men jack off to a children's show...

You know rule 34 didn't start with MLP, right?

exactly. and you know its really fucked up when you get raged at for pointing out that this MIGHT be a bad thing -.-

they don't care, they think its "cute" and they consider themselves "mature" for liking something that a normal person their age wouldn't like...

Yes, because all fabulous fillies are into furry and r34 ponies.

obviously not, i was simply reffering to the fact that a staggering number of the posts by fabulous fillies below are discussing his "work". even for someone expecting shit like that to come from fabulous fillies, the sheer number of them is surprising.

He's a damn good artist.

yes, and Adolf Hitler was a very charismatic man, a good tactician, and one of the best leaders this world has ever seen, doesn't make him any less fucked up now does it?

I prefer neither

OR. You could read the text near the top of the fucking picture. Fucking Fa­ggot.

i was not refering to people reading the text on the picture, i was refering to all the fabulous fillies below talking about how great his furry porn is -.-

Quote: "notice that all of the br­on­­ies can recognize exactly which degenerate furry fa­ggot r34 artist made this from just one fucking pannel"

Look in the upper left of the panel and be enlightened by using your amazing sense of vision, which appears to be lacking in your case.

Don't assume things.

Speaking of things, I am quoting what this other fa­ggot is saying. Look at comment 116.

Then I should take my own advice and not assume that you're quoting something from someone to use as emphasis for his point.

Try and expand on why you quoted next time, or I'll continue to assume you're as stupid as theOH PEEof this thread of evil purple lines.

If you read his reply to my comment, you'll see why I quoted him.

I have been enlightened.

I am retarded.

Quite.

I would justify my own community and try to point out all the things that were wrong with what you just said, but no. you sound like the kind of person who wins arguements by using allcaps, swearing and calling people Lamar Smithgots.

no, i find those types of arguments quite lame and boring. i never thought that this many fabulous fillies actually jacked off to furry porn, i always thought most of that was a joke. But if you scroll down, it is fucking ridiculous how many of them recognized that a furry porn artist made it... now if they had simply said oh "that guy" made this didnt he, i would have been so disgusted, but when they talk about how great his furry porn is, its kinda obvious where they know his art from...

He doesn't R- 34 Ponies he makes his own.

Well, the internet is a horrifying place, what can I say. I recognize that people actually wank to this shit, but I definatley don't. I may have joked about it in the past, but I dont. believe it or not, as a brony, I too get a little mad at the people who give us a bad name. but seriously, don't tell me your SURPRISED that people jack off to that kind of thing? what do you think rule 34 MEANS? if you take it seriously, you'll be a lot less surprised and pissed off about a lot of things.

i wasnt surprised at the fact that people do it, i was surprised by the number of fabulous fillies here who recognised the name of an artist like i would a band. Regardless of wether or not the name was written, they have viewed enough of his work that they know who he is. I always cracked jokes at fabulous fillies expense on this topic, but never have i seen so many fabulous fillies confirm those steryotypes at one time.

well, in all fairness here (and sorry for using such a cliche'd comeback) just because you don't like something, doesn't give you the right to call it wrong. I don't care what people watch in their own spare time to... god save me for saying this... "pleasure" themselves, and you shouldn't either. if you saw some people out on one of these posts who were gay talking about how much they love men, you wouldn't say a word because going against it would be "ignorant" or "politically incorrect" and yet you see people talking about this and all of a sudden "OH GOD, these people are masturbating to ponies, urgh, it's horrific!" even though it doesn't look like the case. it's quite obvious that the picture includes humans, not ponies, even if they are based on characters from the show. I still wouldn't fap to this, but my point is that nobody can decide what's right or wrong.

well personally, i dont like pedophiles. Who the fuck am i to get involved in their buisness? If you don't care what they pleasure themselves to, what does it matter? I think necrophelia is wrong, and i think beastiality is wrong. Its just plain fucked up. When you make something socially acceptable to be discussed, you open the way for it to become socially acceptable to be practiced. We already have plenty of degenerate idiots fucking horses and marrying pigs, we really dont need anymore, and we REALLY dont need anyone telling them that its normal and some fucking therapist to tell us that we are all just bastards who dont understand what they are going through and who are we to tell them that loving ponies from a childrens show is wrong, and if they want to fuck blowup ponies, who are we to say its weird. -.- yes i understand my comparisons were on different levels on the fucked up scale, but saying that you believe its wrong for men to masturbate to children, you would have to agree that there are moral standards for what is acceptable to view as a sexual object (most people would a agree having sex with children is a bad thing). And if you can agree to that then you can understand my point.

I understand your point, yes, but you clearly didn't read mine.
"even though it doesn't look like the case. it's quite obvious that the picture includes humans, not ponies"
I never said having sex with horses was okay, or marrying pigs, or whatever the hell rednecks enjoy doing that they deserve to be in a tightly locked cell for.
This stuff is harmless. it's not gonna hurt anyone, and doesn't show potential.
comparing cloppers to sheep fuckers is like comparing voreaphillia to cannibalism. One is real and dangerous, the other is harmless and fantasy.

so if someone dresses a pig up as a human, that makes it ok? the fact they need to humanize an animal for thier sexual pleasure, as opposed to enjoying something that was human in the first place, really doesn't make much difference in my mind. that would be why i didnt respond to that part initially, because i dont see how it changes things. In thier mind they are masturbating to "rainbow-dash the pony". They just needed to give it tits and a vagina to help thier horribly disturbed imagination along the road to self-induced orgasms.

okay ignore the "dresses the pig as a human" and focus on the "dresses the human as a pig". I really doubt the people who like this kind of thing are thinking about ponies when they look at it.
you don't seem very open minded about this. look at the picture. are you looking at a pony dressed as a human? no. your looking at a human.
you clearly don't watch the show either, so you wouldn't really understand that the characters in the show are more or less human other than the fact they are physically ponies. they have strong characters, which is one of the reasons why the show is as popular as it is.
There is rule 34 of humanised pony characters for the same reason there is rule 34 of any other show. the fact they are ponies is irrelevant to the matter.
You do sound very narrow minded, that may be why you don't watch the show. I'm not suggesting you do, but I'm just crediting you for only going at the people who clop, not the REAL fans. I don't normally fight with haters, but hope if I have any other fights in the future, I hope they can be as calm as you are right now. there are some pea brains out there.

what it comes down to, is that giving things a free-pass is a slippery slope. Today, being gay is socially acceptable, being an absolute fucking whore is an achievement, being a convicted pedophile will only get you a slap on the wrist, and most people really into beastiality, who actually go around fucking animals, get on the news for laughs. In our culture today, we blame the women rape victims almost as much as we blame the rapist. We allow the government to take a fat shit on the constitution we cherished for over two hundred years. Society is going down the fucking shithole, and what you have to ask yourself is this. One hundred years from now, how will my thoughts and words be twisted to justify people raping children, and marrying dogs. and that is the end of my rant.

I couldnt think of a single example where what you said was true. convicted pedophiles don't usually get out of prison, let alone "a slap on the wrist", there is nothing wrong with being gay, being a whore certainly isn't an achievement and is illegal in some countries (such as my own) and if a woman is blamed for rape, then explain why a woman and a daughter would be considered more fit to keep a house after a parents divorce than a man and his son?

there is so much wrong with what you are saying. I honestly fail to see how you can think that paedophillia would ever be considered okay, how black slavery was a good thing (don't try and turn that around, you did indirectly say that), or more importantly how allowing people to look at what they want on the internet could possibly cause problems in the future. you know what, there's a government bill that wants to limit what people can view on the internet. it's called SOPA.

also, about the pedophile part, i was bitterly reffering to a specific incident near where i live. A man raped a young girl, was convicted, sent to prison, and let out three years later on parole for "good behavior". Two months later, he abducts, rapes, brutalizes, and murders another young girl. She was killed by the liberal douches and "human rights activists" going on and on about how convicts and degenerate scum are people too! and they deserve thier lives back and second chances! I personally believe STRONGLY in the death penalty, the revival of chaingangs, and hard labor. None of this bullshit about regulations about how soft thier beds have to be, free healthcare, flatscreen tv's, mandatory free time, making sure they are happy, and that they get good food. For fucks sake we treat our inmates better than we treat our poor and homeless. If that man had been given a life sentence for hard labor, or lethal injection, my friend would still be alive. Degenerate scum like that dont deserve to live, and ill be damned if i have any sympathy for any sick fucks like that.

I see your point and I understand why you would feel this way. I still however stand by my opinion. It sounds horrible, but what you are saying is true. The world would most likely be a better place if laws were stricter and the death penalty was still existent. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, but I still believe that living a life of hatred and opinions such as the ones you spoke about can mislead people as I was. You clearly aren't racist and you seem like a nice person, I just believe you may be clinging on to events which are in the past and cannot be changed. Killing off pedophiles wont bring anyone back, and the death sentence. is gone for a reason. You must consider false acusations, the family of the murdered and the minds of the people who have to kill dozens of people each day. I want pedophiles dead as much as the next person, but you see my point.

thankfully, one of the few things my nation has done right is that we still have the death penalty. and no, killing people like that wont "bring them back", that is a silly notion. What it would do is prevent any other good people from suffering at the hands of those worthless sick fucks like that who arent even worth the air in their lungs. Wanna know the best part? after proving he was a repeat offender, and was inclined to rape and kill again, he got a whole 15 years in fucking prison. Meaning that 15 years from now, someone else's friend, and someone's little girl is going to suffer quite horribly because people believe that he "deserves another chance" and "is still human too". And that isnt even counting if he gets out for "good behavior" again. people like that are monsters and i wont stand for any of that "tolerance" bullshit. We are far too tolerant already. And no shit im not racist, i have no problem with my black, mexican, or asian friends some of them are the best people i know. Every race has it's degenerate sick fucks and while japan may have a world record for the number or perverse fetishes, and the percentage of black males who are rapists is absurd, allowing my hate spectrum to be broadened and expanded would only make me an asshole, and cause my arguments to seem more bigoted than they are. I am full well that my arguments are those of a zealous bigot, and i dont give a damn because i know they are correct.

as for your argument of "false accusations". I don't think there was very much room for error when they swabbed his semen off the corpse of my friend. at the time, we were 15, and the bastard still tried to plead that he was innocent, she lied about her age, and that it was consentual sex and he left after that and had "no idea" how she died, why the weapon he used to bludgeon her head was found in his shed, still coated in blood. And honestly, if i ever meet that bastard lawyer who defended him, i can honestly say i wont ever meet him again.

no. what i said was this "Picture the mindset of any of the northern men durring the civil war if they looked at our society today" Almost everything about our society would be horrendously unacceptable to any of ancestors from the days of the civil war, let alone our founding fathers. Ben Franklin would have heart attack if he even walked down the street (keep in mind it was SCANDALOUS in that era to even show off your fucking ankles. The prostitutes back then were better dressed than most of the women wearing modern "formal" attire) My apologies, i was specifically referring to American history for much of that, as i know it best. But let me dig up some examples from European history, as a majority of the sites users are on one of those two continents, my chances are good. In the medieval era, deformed children were left out to the wolves, gays were executed, witches were burned, heretics were killed (and tortured untill they confessed), oh and lets not forget adultury was also punshable by death and there was no such thing as divorce. If anyone from that era, were to look at our society today they would be absolutely horrified, disgusted, and ashamed. The would likely have killed their own children to prevent such a time from ever happening. A society's morals are peeled back one layer at a time, until things that would have never been even considered are suddenly common practice. How far will the world slip and slide, how low can we go before nothing is left of human morals, and we descend into depravity and chaos and tear ourselves apart like ancient rome? Simply because you cannot fathom the fact that society is degenerating and degrading, and we have very few morals left, doesnt mean that it is not happening, and that your children will live in a completely different world that is up to you to allow or impede.

The following will most likely make you hate me, but it would be nice if you read it through to the end with that "open mind" of yours. personally, i don't view myself a "closed minded". I am very intolerant of a great many things, but i don't view it as a bad thing, and i certainly don't view open-mindedness as a desirable trait. Honestly, i think any male who does not think of himself as a child should have any interest in ponies or a children's show. But for the sake of the argument i was ignoring that to focus on a specific group who are quite exceptionally fucked up in the head, as choosing a broader spectrum would only cause my point to loose it's credence and value. I believe that being too open minded quite literally leads to destruction. All of this political correctness bullshit is just us suffering from the weakness of our parents generation. I believe having morals is a good thing, as letting them slide will never end.
the following examples are not meant to show that i believe them to be wrong, but they are to show what happens when society gives leeway to "special" groups and makes what they want or do socially acceptable.
First example: Emancipation for african amerifats.
Picture the mindset of any of the northern men durring the civil war if they looked at our society today, black sufferage, a black president, and dont even get me started on the crime, murder, rape, and prison numbers for blacks. If they could see where it led, they never would have freed them.
Black sufferage: led to woman's sufferage, and if the politicians at the time saw this as a result, they never would have passed that bill.
woman's sufferage: led to equality and then to the reverse discrimination of the modern world. and that doesnt just apply to women, it is ALMOST illegal to discuss black crime rates now, because it might be viewed as racist. There are so many issues to bring up here, but i dont have the space. i will continue this in an additional comment.

I'll wait for the second comment before I reply

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