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Civil Rights?. .. That's what you get for trying to escape the world's most feminist religion

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#1 - epicscorpion#459 on commentsRank#459

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(04/18/2017)[-]

That's what you get for trying to escape the world's most feminist religion

#70 to #1 - anon id: 041a69a6

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(04/18/2017)[-]

yeah it's not like you'll be killed or anything if you aren't

#4 - ffinfinity

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#158 to #4 - imapsychiatrist

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(04/21/2017)[-]

the thing is that it doesnt just happen in other countries, it happens here far less often but it still happens. my brother has is dating an indian girl right now and for the past 6 months they have been trying to sell her to some 38 year old (shes 18) guy in india basically for his land. they guy has less than 5th grade education but comes from money. they have been straight up blackmailing her, they took her car cuz her mom had her name on it even tho she paid for the whole thing and they racked up over $1000 on her phone bill. for a while they were trying to get her to come on a "vacation" with them to india to visit family but shes scared they will just trap her there and she will never be seen again. its a shame cuz she does have some family there she would like to see

#160 to #158 - imapsychiatrist

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(04/21/2017)[-]

but i guess im being pretty racist and intolerant huh, i mean its just their culture right?

#159 to #158 - imapsychiatrist

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(04/21/2017)[-]

i realized i ****** that up, her parents are the "they"

#161 to #159 - ffinfinity

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#162 to #161 - imapsychiatrist

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(04/22/2017)[-]

yeah thats exactly it, her whole family turned against her, the saddest part is that her younger sisters (like 13 and 9 or around those ages) have sided with the parents cuz they are so ******* indoctrinated and warped. shes been moved out on her own for a little while now and is sueing her parents over the car (ironically angry texts from her sisters are going to be key incriminating evidence against the parents) but it really just crushes me to think that her sisters are probably going to volunteer themselves to be sold once they are old enough

#16 to #4 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

If their culture is to stick with their own and such, who are you to deny them? Think about it from the parent's POV.

#17 to #16 - Bobtheblob

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(04/18/2017)[-]

The parents don't own the daughter, she can do whatever she wants.

#22 to #17 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

If that's not the way they do things, then who are you to say? What moral authority are you to tell everyone else that they must abide by your culture in their country?

Regardless of whether or not it's backwards or barbaric, it's theirs, and it's unique to them. And this is coming from someone who hates Islam with a passion.

#26 to #22 - Bobtheblob

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(04/18/2017)[-]

First off, I'm 99% sure that ffinity's girlfriend's parents were Indians living in America, not Indians living in India.

Second of all, I gain moral authority when someone else's rights are being infringed by said culture. You can do all sorts of barbaric, weird things to yourself in the name of your culture, but when you start ******* over someone else because they choose to live with another culture, that's where I draw the line. She lives in America, she wants the American culture, I'll stand up for that.

All cultures aren't equal, Trudeau.

#29 to #26 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

1. I was under the impression that she was international and her parents were in India, that's just my experience with Indians though so who knows how it was with him.

2. I was working under the basis that she was Indian, and just living in America. If she was a citizen, then their culture has no place in the states. But their culture has every right to practice whatever it wants, in their own country.

3. I know cultures aren't equal, just as races arent. I'm not about to tell everyone ti give up what makes them unique. Variety is the spice of life.

#39 to #29 - ffinfinity

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#40 to #39 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

...And? I think that's ****, and has no place in our society, but it's THEIR society.

What are you trying to convince me of? That these people are ****** in the head or something? I'm already very aware, but at the end of the day, I have no say in how India goes.

#41 to #40 - ffinfinity

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#46 to #41 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>I'm trying to convince you that at some point just because someone lives a certain way or was raised a certain way, does not make it alright to hurt others.

That's our opinion, culturally, and that is not their way however. But once on American soil that ends of course.

>There is nothing good or just about how they hurt thier own country to uphold old tradition.

Then that's up to them to sort out, not us.

>In your other post it seemed you were defending their actions and I just found it incredulous given how damaging their ideology is.

I defend their actions in so far as it's a matter of cultural preservation. If Indians were to change their traditions, it's not really my business is it? It's not my culture, or my people. If they were to, for example, slap their daughter in my house for disagreeing with them, there's be a problem. But in their own country, their way is the way, plain and simple, no matter how retarded it is.

#43 to #22 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Who gives a **** if its theirs or unique to them? Your **** traditions, **** culture, and **** religion doesn't give you the right to oppress people and make them do things they don't want. Nobody is saying the parents can't think whatever primitive, backward ******** they want, but that doesn't mean they can subject their daughter to that ********. ESPECIALLY in America of all god damned places.

**** off. ******* stupid leaf, no wonder you're going to end up like Swedistan and the rest of the United European Caliphate.

#50 to #43 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>Who gives a **** if its theirs or unique to them?

I do. The world is much more interesting in colour. Even if some of that colour is blood red.

>Your **** traditions, **** culture, and **** religion doesn't give you the right to oppress people and make them do things they don't want.

Might makes right. It's their land, they can do whatever they want. If they want change, they have to be that change, but it looks like anyone who wants change figures to just leave. Human rights are not universal, they're backed with weapons and threats. These do not extend to the third world unfortunately, where even the UN doesn't tread.

>Nobody is saying the parents can't think whatever primitive, backward ******** they want, but that doesn't mean they can subject their daughter to that ********.

If that's their culture, they have every right to. As much as I might disagree with it.

>ESPECIALLY in America of all god damned places.

You're right.

>**** off. ******* stupid leaf, no wonder you're going to end up like Swedistan and the rest of the United European Caliphate.

I literally want to eject 90% or more of all non-whites from Europe, Canada, and America. Try that again.

#53 to #50 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>It's not my place to decide the fates and cultures of other peoples, unless those peoples are in my country.
>I literally want to eject 90% or more of all non-whites from Europe, Canada, and America.

Really fires those neurons.

#55 to #53 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

... And? Of course, it's not up to me to decide the fate of any country than my own, but I'd be lying if I said I was going to keep quite and let them walk blindly into the fire.

#149 to #55 - cabbagemayhem

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Ignore the thumbs in this case. Good work trying to explain how people should see things from another point of view. Western culture is the best culture, but it's not the perfect culture, and we need to understand that in order to retain our own liberties, we need to allow others to have theirs.

#155 to #149 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/19/2017)[-]

I agree, I've been trying to say it's not up to is to force every culture to be like us. They must make the reforms themselves if they want, but we can't do it for them.

I'm a traditionalist, I really dislike the decline of western culture into this modernity and consumer culture. It's bland and inhuman, and I don't want anyone else to follow the path.

#56 to #55 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

America and Europe aren't your country.

#57 to #56 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

I literally just said that.

#58 to #57 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

And then you said that you want to affect enormous change on their culture, people, and religions just because it fits your sensibilities better. Yet earlier you said you don't give a **** about people abusing and enslaving others because you would not try to force your sensibilities onto another country.

You are a grade A hypocrite, my dude.

#59 to #58 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

I don't want to change their people, culture, or religions at all. I just want to preserve demographics. It's not a matter of sensibilities. Though some of the people would argue that all whites are "our people", thus we're allowed to have a say in what goes on in the Eurosphere.

Nothing hypocritical, maybe a bit of bending the rules though.

#60 to #59 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Dude, it's straight up hypocritical. You could make an argument for Europe that you're "preserving their demographics" (which would still be violating your own rules you stated, but I could at least somewhat get it based off of what you said before), but that's complete and utter ******** in the U.S. You WOULD be changing our people, cultures, and religions by deporting non-white citizens. Most have been here for generations, and have contributed hugely to American culture. You're not preserving ****, you'd be destroying America as we know it.

And, in case you forgot, you're still breaking your own rule about not interfering or caring about other countries. So it's cool to care about some countries, but **** the others? You're a straight up hypocrite dude, and your logic is broken as hell. If you were at least honest and consistent then I could respect your views, even if I found them reprehensible, but you just pick and choose when you want to follow your own code. Even after defending said code vehemently.

#61 to #60 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>You WOULD be changing our people, cultures, and religions by deporting non-white citizens. Most have been here for generations, and have contributed hugely to American culture. You're not preserving ****, you'd be destroying America as we know it.

The America as you know it is not America, it's being or has been destroyed. More and more people see this, it's why the Alt-Right is growing. We vet double digit newcomers each day, and most of them are converts or new to politics. But you don't see that, like you've been taught not to see, like we were all taught not to see. It was subtle, but was intentional, but not done out of malice.

>And, in case you forgot, you're still breaking your own rule about not interfering or caring about other countries.

I said I would not interfere unless there was a crisis, criticism and opinions are still game. You can't just build a world of self-contained units whom never interact. How boring and anti-human.

>So it's cool to care about some countries, but **** the others?

Do you give a **** about Africa? Not many do. As Japan-anon put it, you don't notice **** in the toilet, but when it's on the kitchen table there's a problem.

>If you were at least honest and consistent then I could respect your views, even if I found them reprehensible, but you just pick and choose when you want to follow your own code. Even after defending said code vehemently.

I think the issue is a matter of what constitutes involvement where it's not warranted. Doesn't really matter though, I haven't really deviated from what I've been saying all along.

You should know what I think, or at least have an idea, you've seen my posts and comments, many of which you thumb down.

#64 to #61 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Damn son, this is feminist levels of double think and hypocrisy.

#68 to #64 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Ok.

#63 to #61 - anon id: 53035af5

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Right wing? Growing? I knew you had your head up your ass but **** man.

#62 to #61 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Hang on, I ****** up the first paragraph. I forgot to mention that it falls within a country's borders where the natives are dealing with foreign elements, not to mention the international nature of the movement makes not being involved a nigh impossibility.

#144 to #22 - randomzdude

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Look I'm all down for people having diverse cultures and following their own traditions and whatever. But if you aren't able to say that you don't agree with a tradition without the fear of DEATH, than you're not much more than a slave at that point.

#154 to #144 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/19/2017)[-]

I agree, but it's not my place to decide for them.

OK look, let me position this another way ok? We all know Islam is a backwards **** fest right? Now, in my opinion as an outsider to the religion, it's not my business to try and reform the religion, it's up to the followers to do that. I have no real right to go around the world telling other cultures and people's how they must be, they have to do it themselves.

#145 to #22 - swagbot

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(04/19/2017)[-]

"What moral authority are you to tell everyone else that...[something something]."

Congratulations....

.... you've just poisoned this thread the most common, cliched, overused-yet-COMPLETELY-MEANINGLESS phrase ever to spawn from the English Language.

No go sit in a corner until you realize how little (no) sense that argument makes.

#21 to #16 - ffinfinity

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#23 to #21 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>>#22

It's culture, and I am for it's preservation. If she doesn't like it, that's sad, because a culture needs people to preserve it. And only they can preserve their own culture.

I'm not saying I condone the practices, but I would hate for everyone to adopt the same way of life, it's more interesting this way.

#36 to #23 - ffinfinity

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#38 to #36 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

For Christ's sake, one moment I'm a white supremacist, next I'm Trudeau. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

#44 to #23 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>it's more interesting to have people be abused, raped, psuedo enslaved into unwanted marriages, and terrorized in their own home

Are you a psychopath? Have you ever tortured small animals because you found it "interesting"? Serious questions here.

#48 to #44 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

It's not my place to decide the fates and cultures of other peoples, unless those peoples are in my country. Use your damn head. What right, for instance, does anyone in China have to say how Americans live their lives? They may offer criticisms or opinions, but they have no right to demand change until it affects them.

#49 to #48 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

That's a needlessly wrong way to say "yes".

#137 to #49 - anon id: 1e555ecb

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(04/19/2017)[-]

You're a ******* faget

#51 to #49 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

I don't think I said yes there at all.

#52 to #51 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

And all you did was throw a lot of ******** to distract from your initial comment. You said that you were cool with people living in terror and having their rights stripped because "it's more interesting this way". That's a far cry from "it's not my place to decide the fates of other people".

#54 to #52 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

It is not my duty to play world police. I'm willing to help in states of crisis, but I'm not for patrolling the globe so that everyone subscribes to the same social norms. If *********** in ************* want to be backwards cavemen then so be it, not my business.

#25 to #23 - giobrando

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(04/18/2017)[-]

#27 to #25 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

No.

#28 to #27 - giobrando

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(04/18/2017)[-]

yes

#30 to #28 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Ummm... No?

#31 to #30 - giobrando

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(04/18/2017)[-]

y e s

#32 to #31 - carlonord#143 on commentsRank#143

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Did I ******* stutter?

#139 to #16 - buttkickerboy

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(04/19/2017)[-]

go away cuck

#98 to #16 - ritzrules

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(04/19/2017)[-]

>Think about it from the parents POV

M8 if you ever cared about your parents POV you'd ******* off yourself, you miserable little cunt.

#13 - lazorking

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(04/18/2017)[-]

> Muffled "**** off, we're full!" shouted in the distance

#110 to #13 - noseybonk

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Let in untold numbers of Vietnamese and Chinese because "we're full", but turn away woman who will be gang-raped by her own family then set on fire as a punishment for having been raped ....? Really dodged a bullet there Australia.

#111 to #110 - lazorking

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Mate, calm down, it was a joke.

#116 to #111 - noseybonk

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Then I cheerfully retract my comment. There's just some nasty ******* cunts on here, at times it's hard to seperate the bants from the rants.

#126 to #116 - thirdjess

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Can agree with that, lot of nasty, racist, splendiforous cunts in Australia

#9 - esioh

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>not reading our wikipedia article which says, and I qoute "WE ARE ******* FULL"

#11 to #9 - subaqueousreach

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(04/18/2017)[-]

I mean yeah, you have 3 times as many kangaroos as you have people down there.

#33 to #11 - autumnanubis

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Australia, where your predators are plants, and those get eaten by something too.

#20 - lotengo#88 on commentsRank#88

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(04/18/2017)[-]

They got her a few days back, she's probably dead already.
Its not evn the Saudi regime that hunted her down, it was her own family.

#67 to #20 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

The Saudi embassy helped detain her.

#135 to #20 - anon id: 1e555ecb

Reply0

(04/19/2017)[-]

apelsapje?

#45 to #20 - anon id: f08c9db6

Reply0

(04/18/2017)[-]

I kinda feel bad, but this **** is how it starts. You make exception for one sob story, and next you're drowning in millions of unemployed, uneducated, violent rapefugees.

They should stop ******* goats and actually work to overthrow their oppressive cult dictatorship instead of trying to jump ship and **** up our relatively ok nations.

-nigeltheoutlaw

#34 - admiralen

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(04/18/2017)[-]

It kinda sickens me that Saudi Arabia can get away with all their ******* awful **** just because they have oil

#37 to #34 - sentinelzero

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(04/18/2017)[-]

It sickens me too, that we're allies with such a piece of **** nation.

We honestly should go in and raze their disgusting monarchy to the ground.

#47 to #34 - nigeltheoutlaw

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Politics is filled with a lot of horrible hypocrisies. It's made me realize that all the **** about freedom, democracy, and human rights is all just a bunch of fluff and lies we're fed to make us feel good about ourselves.

#69 to #34 - buttlickerr

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Well theres 2 sides as to why. One is because of the oil and is why we started fighting them. The other is the people who dont want a war and dont want to make things worse. But i agree they should know who the badies are and use the special ops troops we have to just take them out

#10 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

**** yeah cunts

#66 to #10 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

>>#20, >>#9, >>#13, Hell yeah boys, let's celebrate the fact a woman tried to flee from a forced marriage and was forced back by her own family where she will likely be honor killed.

Wait.

www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents...

#71 to #66 - esioh

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(04/18/2017)[-]

YOU'RE ****** RIGHT CUNT

ALL TOGETHER NOW LAWDS

**** OFF, WE'RE FULL

#152 to #66 - lotengo#88 on commentsRank#88

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(04/19/2017)[-]

I'm not celebrating anything

#153 to #152 - elsanna

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(04/19/2017)[-]

I didn't say you were, I tagged you just for the sake of showing you my post. Sorry if I implied I was upset at you.

#73 to #66 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Not our problem

They had their chance
And they ****** it up

#112 to #73 - noseybonk

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(04/19/2017)[-]

How did she **** up being born female? Like all those Abbo kids that ****** up by choosing to be born in their own country?

#114 to #112 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Not what I meant
I mean refugees in general
After the Lindt café siege and threatening to bomb the mcg
We'd had enough

#74 to #73 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

What chance did this woman have that she ****** up?

#119 to #74 - anon id: 03cb49e1

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(04/19/2017)[-]

usa ****** up the middle east and sent millions of arabs into everyone elses countries, and australia is ****** tired of it

#120 to #119 - elsanna

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(04/19/2017)[-]

>>#118,

#75 to #74 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

We simply don't give a ****
Being a country founded by immigrants
We know when to stop

#76 to #75 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

You don't have an answer because you know you're full of ****.

#77 to #76 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Alright look at it this way
About 70% of our population is very racist
We're all good and fine as long as you have the proper credentials and there's nothing sketchy.
If there's even one thing out of place
It's back to where you came from
And you get banned from ever coming here again
End of story

#78 to #77 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

She didn't get to Australlia. She was stopped in the Philippines on the way to Australia by the Saudi embassy and the Filipino gov't. Which you'd know if you had read the article I linked.

#80 to #78 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

Well then why are you even making this a problem with us Aussies
We dindu nuffin in this case

#81 to #80 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

You didn't do nothing except celebrate the fact she was sent back to Saudi Arabia.

#82 to #81 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

And so she should
America and Russia ****** their country up
She can seek asylum with them
Not us

#84 to #82 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

What the **** are you talking about?

#117 to #84 - anon id: 03cb49e1

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(04/19/2017)[-]

hes referring to post-ww2 russia and usa have been against each other and since a direct war would be too brutal theyve been playing proxy wars using middle eastern countries

and as a result theres a ******** of kebabs flooding out of the middle east and its usa's fault

#118 to #117 - elsanna

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(04/19/2017)[-]

This woman is from Saudi Arabia, one of the most consistently "stable" countries in the middle east. People wanting to flee that oppressive hellhole has nothing to do with the proxy wars going on.

#85 to #84 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

During the Cold War, America and Russia have weapons to small tribes to fight for them
Fast forward to present day, they still have these guns
One tribe pops up on top lotsa weapons and a lot of hate

#86 to #85 - elsanna

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(04/18/2017)[-]

This is Saudi Arabia, not Syria or Afghanistan.

#127 to #86 - thirdjess

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Honestly, don't bother. My parents are the same as this ********. If there's an attack, they assume its Islam related. If it is Islam related, it's confirmation bias. Ha, told you so, they're all garbage. If its not Islam related, then it's oh well it usually is because they're all garbage. Drives me ******* insane.

#136 to #127 - elsanna

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(04/19/2017)[-]

You're the only Aussie who hasn't disappointed me today.

#141 to #136 - thirdjess

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Unfortunately we're the third most racist country in the world, the other two are third world countries. Really breaks my heart, because it's such a lovely country otherwise.

#156 to #141 - elsanna

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Finally a good use for this.

#157 to #156 - thirdjess

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(04/20/2017)[-]

I honestly meant like the trees are nice tbh

#87 to #86 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/18/2017)[-]

**** spreads dude
Angry tribe plants people spread the hate
It was already a part of their religion
They just needed people to press the button

#122 to #87 - anon id: 03cb49e1

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(04/19/2017)[-]

on a side note shes saudi

real ****** cute how the civilised world allowed women to have rights 100 years ago while the saudis are still talking **** like "we're thinking about it"

not australias ******* problem to save people from a ******* medieval country

#113 to #77 - noseybonk

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(04/19/2017)[-]

Like being female?

#115 to #113 - awsomegreatmadwolf

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(04/19/2017)[-]

By seeking asylum with us
Stop being a stingey cunt mate

#15 - churchguy

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(04/18/2017)[-]

oh, she's definitely dead or worse...

#6 - herecomesmaverick#2 on commentsRank#2

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(04/18/2017)[-]

That is the sad thing too, is that amidst all of the sensationalism of small issues by social and televised media, alot of the actual problems like this get glossed over in favor of what's been "trendy" in the news lately.

People are too busy making up issues and end up ignoring the real problems at hand, and it's just painful to watch.

#12 - anon id: f33e9452

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(04/18/2017)[-]

The feminist outrage will be about the fact Aussies are sending someone back for not meeting their strict criteria of immigration, not over the fact that Sweaty Arabia and Islam are a tyranny over women.