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#4 - joemand (10/15/2012) [-]
Ugh, a bunch of ignorant self-entitled teenage children at it again, thinking they know a damn thing about the world.

Yes, it's true that we have the largest defense budget. However, it's also true that the Military produces some of the most innovative and evolutionary technologies the world has ever known. Our ability to finance such research has literally changed the world in a variety of different ways. The Internet, which we are obviously all using, was originally created by the U.S. military.

However, it is not just our ability to produce technological results, but results that keep the world in a stable position. This ideology that the world is just filled with happy people that want to just prance around is absolutely ridiculous. The truth is that countries/people have been waging wars that result in the slaughter of their enemy since the beginning of our time. Our military is the prime factor for our balance. If they weren't around, the other nations would have taken what they believe to be there's. We are a violent race of people.

The only true way of keeping peace, is through strength. Whether you like it or not, it's a truth we must all come to terms with.

P.S. I actually know one of the first members from one of the original black ops divisions. The man has been in over 100 different countries. Killed 1000's of people. Why you may ask? Because at the end of the day, it preserves the peace of us first world nations. But hell, it's easy to make childish judgments from behind your computer in your cozy little room.
User avatar #95 to #4 - sniperfusion (10/16/2012) [-]
americans kill so many civilians and i bet your black ops friend killed a lot of innocent victems that are not terrorists
americans think you need to bomb a building even though there are civilians in their just because a wanted man went in there
and you kill so many wanted terrorists without a trial so some of them are also innocent
User avatar #105 to #95 - bizzarenight (10/16/2012) [-]
left out how the kill their allies too... and call them mistakes or accidental friendly fire...


... thumb down to oblivion, i know it
User avatar #92 to #4 - Crusader ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
But it doesn't, if the USA hadn't assumed the role of the world's police, then there wouldn't be all this conflict, from people hating the USA for assuming the role of the World's police.
User avatar #72 to #4 - thesoulless (10/16/2012) [-]
I think you mean "the first black OPs division"
#70 to #4 - robopuppy (10/16/2012) [-]
You know what else makes amazing advances in science?
FUCKING NASA
#42 to #4 - N. Korean citizen (10/16/2012) [-]
Joemand I don't think any of us are anti-military. We just think that the budget is a little bloated as it is and that we can't afford, with our debt, to keep funding it.
User avatar #30 to #4 - Nullifier (10/16/2012) [-]
Friend of mine comes from a military family, has family members very high up. He says that although a lot of money goes into good things, there's absolutely no reason to keep dumping money in; our technology is also very far advanced over other countries, if we stopped funding it, it wouldn't be obsolete for a fucking long ass time
#23 to #4 - AresX (10/16/2012) [-]
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#20 to #4 - themanwhoknocks (10/16/2012) [-]
Yes, because without America and our military other nations would destroy each other beyond recognition, which was obviously what happened before America became a nation as we arose from nothing and repopulated the world. Just stop. THe only point you had that was coherent and made sense was the innovation and techonological advancement bit.
#26 to #20 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Probably the most retarded comment I have seen in a while
#31 to #26 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
">Next Freddy Mercury
Yea I'd rather not be a fucking homo."

"This makes me hate gay people even more."

"Because simply put liberals are dumb as fuck"

"I'll say it loud and clear. I'm a racist. I don't like blacks gays and muslims. There you go."

Just some candidates for you to consider, but it isn't very gentlemen like to vote for your own would it?
#33 to #31 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Oh man. You totally got me bro. Nice.
#36 to #33 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
I grew up in North Carolina and you remind me so much of home. That dumbass, ignorant, redneck, patriotism bullshit. God I hate the Bible belt.
#37 to #36 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
There it is. Hurrrrrr you're a redneck!!!! Yea good argument bud.
#40 to #37 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Naw you're a bigot, which was the obvious point of what I said. And being a bigot is bad. Let me guess, you grew up in the south didn't you?
#43 to #40 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Oh wow. Just another typical conversation with I'm sure an Obama supporter. Keep guess about me. I'm sure you'll do just fine.
#48 to #43 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
So you hate gays, blacks, and Muslims and then get a little angry when you're called out for being a bigot? Sucks to be you. And I'll take that as a yes to my question.
#52 to #48 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
It's actually a resounding no. Like I said keep trying though. I'm sure you'll bad a thousand.
#55 to #52 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Then society has failed you, I hope you know your attitude will die with you as you're left as nothing more than an embarrassment to your children/grandchildren
#57 to #55 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Jesus christ where do you idiots get these stock replies from? Do you think you sound intelligent? It's the same thing over and over.
#58 to #57 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Still talking huh? If I ignore you I'll just assume you'll crawl back in your hole. Good bye sad little creature.
#59 to #58 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Look at all the fucks I give!

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#29 to #26 - themanwhoknocks (10/16/2012) [-]
Read his comment, then back to mine. Back to his, back to mine. You realize i make a sarcastic comment about his apparent view of America being the only stopping the world from going into total anarchy. Now look at your comment, I'm on a rant.
User avatar #13 to #4 - Mahazama (10/15/2012) [-]
I was totally with you about the military innovation thing, but later realized you had no idea what the fuck you were talking about.
#8 to #4 - N. Korean citizen (10/15/2012) [-]
cool story bro
#7 to #4 - yunonomynameeh ONLINE (10/15/2012) [-]
You are so full of shit, I'm surprised you're able to sit up long enough to type this crap. You don't know anyone from "the original black ops division", it's fucking pathetic when people go online claiming to know somebody.

We do not need a military large enough to take on the whole world at one time, this stupid redneck "murica!" attitude is disgusting, and I can't wait for you all to pass out of history like every other sect of past ignorance.

Real peace will never be achieved through fear.
User avatar #84 to #7 - joemand (10/16/2012) [-]
Lol, I'm just going to skip all this other bullshit that was written and just make it to this first comment of yours.

I can't think of one reason to lie about it. I'm not a 12 year-old troll. More importantly, I do not doubt this man's past. He has the attitude, the medals, the connections, etc.

Sure it sounds crazy, but to me it's not much considering the fact that I've known him for so long. Therefore, after all this being said I don't think there would be any reason for me to lie.

#87 to #84 - yunonomynameeh ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
Oh, well if you say so -I guess it must be true. I mean, you're so intelligent that you resort to calling everyone with a different viewpoint a 12 year old troll -obviously you wouldn't lie on the internet about knowing someone you think makes you cool.
User avatar #93 to #87 - joemand (10/16/2012) [-]
...I was saying there would be no point in lieing as I'm not a 12 year-old troll...I wasn't calling anyone anything.
#12 to #7 - horismoku (10/15/2012) [-]
You're a fucking idiot. That is all.
#17 to #12 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/15/2012) [-]
He really isn't.
#18 to #17 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
He actually is.
#19 to #18 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
And how is he?
#22 to #19 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
http://www dot cnn dot com/2012/08/09/opinion/bennett-sequestration-defense-cuts/index.html
#24 to #22 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Well that was a retarded article, who exactly is going to go to war with us again?
#25 to #24 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Yea so let's cut the shit out of the military so when someone does go to war with us we're unprepared. Good idea.
User avatar #96 to #25 - Crusader ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
You have more than enough arms that the USA could survive several wars before they started to run low on anything, excluding ammunition, because that stuff goes fast.
The US Army has entire bases, just parking lots full of tanks that are of no use, thousands of tanks, and the still produce more, there is such a massive surplus, that the USA could easily arm every man woman and child with North America with a single gun, and still have a surplus.
#28 to #25 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Implying that a smaller military makes us unprepared. I love how you didn't even answer my question (I know you can't so I'll move on out of kindness)

Do you how almost impossible it is to start a war in the modern era, not to mention how idiotic it would be? Surveillance from advanced countries make it nearly impossible to get any sort of unexpected attack. Then did you consider how hard it would be to fight the fucking usa, especially since most world powers are our allies? Even with the proposed cuts we would still be far and away the most militarily advanced country. Do you even know what you're talking about?
User avatar #98 to #28 - Crusader ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
Hate to play devil's advocate, but many countries are simply looking for a reason to cut ties.
If there were to be a war between the USA and say Russia, many countries would join Russia purely because of spite, many nations simply want to bring the USA to it's knees.
#99 to #98 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
No actual, powerful nation that really mattered will cut any ties with us. It's in too many countries best interests for us to succeed.
User avatar #101 to #99 - Crusader ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
Not really, a lot of the trouble in the world right now is due to the USA being this superpower and being the world's police.
The US economy is going down the tubes, and even more so is the world's image of the USA.
Instead of the scholarly, strong, charismatic soldier, they now see the leader who is out of touch with the people, the thug who doesn't think of anything more than his surroundings and the soldiers that are looking for things that are not there.

If a war starts between the USA and any other major power, I predict the USA may win, but it will be because of their own military stockpile, not do to overwhelming support.
#32 to #28 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
http://usatoday30 dot usatoday dot com/news/opinion/story/2012-08-02/Marion-Blakey-Aerospace-Industries-Association /56720838/1

Yea I do actually.
#34 to #32 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
That link didn't work and I don't care what some article says that wasn't even intended to answer my questions. Either answer them yourself or stop arguing all together and admit you're an idiot.
#35 to #34 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
It's called facts backing up my argument retard. It has studies that prove that cutting defense is not good for the country. Go ahead and keep acting like a retard tho.
#39 to #35 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Let me guess you can't even remember those "facts" unless you pull up the website. All your doing is arguing from authority, which is a logical fallacy, and something I'm not going to waste my time with. Enjoy being stupid though.
#41 to #39 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Sorry your argument only works if the other side doesn't have facts on it's side. I guess you can ignore it but that doesn't exactly make you a winner now does it? No. Enjoy being stupid though.
#44 to #41 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Whatever you want you to tell yourself buddy.
#46 to #44 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
You too. I'm the only one that actually presented hard facts in this argument. You just sat there and talked out of your ass.
#50 to #46 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Whatever you want to tell yourself buddy.
#51 to #50 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Good argument buddy.
#53 to #51 - gritsreborn **User deleted account** (10/16/2012) [-]
Are you still talking?
#54 to #53 - horismoku (10/16/2012) [-]
Are you?
User avatar #27 to #25 - yunonomynameeh ONLINE (10/16/2012) [-]
With a military larger than the next15 largest spenders combined -how exactly are we "unprepared"? That article is ridiculous, and is exactly the kind of fear mongering this image is making fun of.

Are you retarded or do you just not understand the point?
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#5 to #4 - results (10/15/2012) [-]
why would you want a technological version of me...
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