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SILENCEnight (02/02/2014) [-] 
**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #52 at language of love ** perkele
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catpisseverdeen (02/03/2014) [-] I'm just going to point out that the Russians don't really give a **** about casualties, its all about winning. Which, I'm afraid, they did.
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trollerfin (02/03/2014) [-] We had to make peace that cost us Karjala and Salla, but we kept Finland as independent nation, so against soviet union, I think that was a tie, maybe bit more Finland's victory than loss
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srslyjakecease (02/03/2014) [-] Allow me to introduce you to Simo Häyhä: aka the white death. During the Winter War, he is responsible for over 500 kills. in the course of 100 days. He was so feared by the Russians that they formed anti-sniper unites with the sole purpose of bringing him down.
Also he is the main subject of one of the best metal songs I know: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdngW3qMMco
Also he is the main subject of one of the best metal songs I know: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdngW3qMMco
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studsper (02/02/2014) [-] I'll just conquer russia, what can go wrong?
-Charles XII of Sweden
-Napoleon Bonaparte
-Adolf Hitler
-Charles XII of Sweden
-Napoleon Bonaparte
-Adolf Hitler
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catpisseverdeen (02/03/2014) [-] Well, if Hitler hadn't attacked, they would've lost WWII a lot sooner.
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serotonin (02/02/2014) [-] Finland did kick ass but in the end Soviets took all the territories they demanded and more and Russia hold them to this day
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goblingang (02/03/2014) [-] It wasn't about how much they taxed them (they were actually taxed far less than people living back in Great Britain), it was the fact they were taxed without consent or voice in parliament.
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anon (02/02/2014) [-] Polandball comics almost always hit FP.
Jennifer Lawrence posts almost always hit FP.
What can go wrong?
Jennifer Lawrence posts almost always hit FP.
What can go wrong?
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fuckallthelobsters (02/03/2014) [-] fun fact: we actually did grant Cuba with their independence with the Teller Amendment at the end of the Spanish-American war and we even had another amendment that allowed us to step into Cuban politics anything ***** was going on, but we did **** all when Castro came into power. i just learned that in apush. themoreyouknow.gif
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Whaaaaaaaaa (02/03/2014) [-] you see that dude you guys where on your shirt? yeah the ******** that you make symbol to all your revolution crap.. he's responsible for cuba and countless deaths. themoreyouknow.gif
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/02/2014) [-] "I will just raise taxes to pay for my war debts."
NOPE! Britain LOWERED Tea tax from 112% to 9%!
America, get your history together.
NOPE! Britain LOWERED Tea tax from 112% to 9%!
America, get your history together.
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] Guys, why are you thumbing him down? Isn't he right? the British lowered the tax, but the part that rustled the revolutionaries' jimmies was that Britain gave the East India Trading Co. exclusive tea sale rights on the Continent, creating a monopoly so that all the tea tax would go to the British. (don't get me wrong, that's still some underhanded **** ). Isn't that what happened though?
(ok I think he typo'd the 112% thing)
(ok I think he typo'd the 112% thing)
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/03/2014) [-] Yeah, I was wrong on the percentages. Sorry. It was actually 119% to 12%
Pitts commutation act; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutation_Act
Pitts commutation act; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutation_Act
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] Ah, I see. The lowering of taxes prevented smuggling from being a powerful trade in the Colonies and, because smuggling was so important for their burgeoning economy, they got pissed and this (among other things) led them to begin inciting rebellion.
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/03/2014) [-] Yeah, basically. They were annoyed that Britain was actually helping them. Never can please those god damned colonists.
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] Well lets not forget the whole monopoly thing - East India Trading Co. was given exclusive rights to sale in the colonies in order to prevent international (and smuggler) competition and ensure a steady flow of taxes into England. This mercantilist strategy, while effective for the British, created a big problem for most of the Empire's colonies, especially on the Continent. The money flow was always to Britain, sucking currency out of the colonies (who couldn't print their own, of course, under British law, to protect the situation). The colonists, while the tax rate they had to pay was rather easy, did not want a future in which their money continued to leave for England.
At least, that's what I think happened...
At least, that's what I think happened...
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/03/2014) [-] I don't know enough about this subject to have a proper back and forth with you. We don't really cover American History in the UK so what i know about the subject is only what popped up in my history class when regarding British foreign policy (which, coincidentally, America very rarely shows up in.)
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] Oh one last thing, I just hate that those people thumbed down your comment just cause they thought that's not what happened; the American Revolution and its causes were, as most things are, a pretty complex series of events.
Though I can understand if it was because of that last sentence, though.
Though I can understand if it was because of that last sentence, though.
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/03/2014) [-] You have to admit though (and ill take any thumbs down from straglers on these comments) America does a **** job of teaching its History. History classes in America are full of inaccuracies that means anyone who recites what they have learned to a birt look like a retard. Its not the individuals fault but the systems. Hell, New York state taught, until last year, that the UK Intentionally started the potato famine to kill all the Irish. Now, i don't care who you are, thats a ******* retarded thing to teach in schools.
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] No I don't have to admit that. Everything I say here I learned in the North Carolina public education system (and btw, in the US, each state runs its own education system, excepting federal tests; so what happens in New York is irrelevant to the other 49 and the territories).
Also, I found what you're referring to. It's irrefutable that the British did export other crops which the Irish could have used to stave off some of the suffering, but I agree that this hardly insinuates some sort of secret plot (though I don't know all the information involved, it does seem stupid at first glance).
Also, I found what you're referring to. It's irrefutable that the British did export other crops which the Irish could have used to stave off some of the suffering, but I agree that this hardly insinuates some sort of secret plot (though I don't know all the information involved, it does seem stupid at first glance).
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/03/2014) [-] "Britain" did NOT export Irish crops. Crops were exported TO britain but the British government, and people, had absolutely nothing to do with that. The Landowners in Ireland were to blame for the exports.
And the idea behind the intentional starving was that the British hated the Irish and wanted to kill them. Thats it. There was racism against the Irish so the British introduced blight into Ireland. Its retarded.
And the idea behind the intentional starving was that the British hated the Irish and wanted to kill them. Thats it. There was racism against the Irish so the British introduced blight into Ireland. Its retarded.
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] I see - doing a bit more reading up on it I see that the government had nothing to do with it and that English and rich Irish landlords were exporting otherwise useful crops. And yes, it seems stupid that racism would be the only reason, and stupid indeed that it would happen. This is actually an example of hindsight bias at its best - it seems easy for some to blame the powers of the time for what happened over a century ago.
But a faulty, short-lived piece of curriculum in New York State does not prove that US can't teach history. That's like saying that, because German schools can't teach the Holocaust with at much accuracy/detail (not necessarily true afaik, just an example), the whole of Europe can't teach history.
But a faulty, short-lived piece of curriculum in New York State does not prove that US can't teach history. That's like saying that, because German schools can't teach the Holocaust with at much accuracy/detail (not necessarily true afaik, just an example), the whole of Europe can't teach history.
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aabbccddeeffgghhii (02/04/2014) [-] Well, no. Not really. Germany is a separate country in Europe. Thats like saying Mexicos, Canadas and Americas school system are all one in the same. Its a different kettle of fish. American school systems may be regulated state to state but its still governed by the government as a whole.
Also, do you know how long it was taught? You're assuming that it was short lived. And as a whole i can say that the USA does a pretty **** job at teaching its history. Every child in America believes that America won the war of independence on its own, even though they were only able to win due to the French and Spanis navies keeping British ships away, removing the ability for Britain to replenish troops, you're also seem to be taught that everyone wanted independance even though the majority of colonists liked Britain.
You are barely taught about the Vietnam war and the Korean war is non existent, just because you lost horrifically. Oh, and the best one is the Boston Tea Party, tying this all back up, where you're taught that the tyrannical British Empire increased tea taxes for their greedy king.
Believe it or not, your education system, at least when it comes to the Historical aspect, is very, very poor.
Also, do you know how long it was taught? You're assuming that it was short lived. And as a whole i can say that the USA does a pretty **** job at teaching its history. Every child in America believes that America won the war of independence on its own, even though they were only able to win due to the French and Spanis navies keeping British ships away, removing the ability for Britain to replenish troops, you're also seem to be taught that everyone wanted independance even though the majority of colonists liked Britain.
You are barely taught about the Vietnam war and the Korean war is non existent, just because you lost horrifically. Oh, and the best one is the Boston Tea Party, tying this all back up, where you're taught that the tyrannical British Empire increased tea taxes for their greedy king.
Believe it or not, your education system, at least when it comes to the Historical aspect, is very, very poor.
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Logicaltightrope (02/04/2014) [-] Oh, and I forgot to mention: many schools in the US - including mine - offer a class called Lessons of Vietnam, or similar, which extensively studies the causes, events, and consequences of the Vietnam war. It's not mandatory, as the material necessary is covered in broader US History classes; but from what I've heard, it's pretty interesting.
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Logicaltightrope (02/04/2014) [-] The EU is a federation, like it or not, and the countries have separate school systems and curriculums. The US is a federation, and the states have separate school systems and curriculums. The only things binding the school systems together are some standardized tests, which are distributed on a statewide basis. So actually it is more similar than you might think.
Hmmm, i thought it was added in 1996 and removed in 2001, what's the real length?
Alright, on that last part, as a student in the NC public education system, I have no ******* clue what you're talking about. The details leading up to the revolution, including tea taxes, were stressed to me by my teacher and textbook. We, in fact, are taught that the Revolutionary War could never have been won without large foreign, mainly French, assistance and the fact that it was a small part of a much wider war for the British. We were taught that it was a minority movement (and of course it would be, with most people being farmers, why the hell would they want a major political upheaval that could threaten their lives and/or livelihood?) We were taught the correct thing about the tea taxes and we know that those, among others, were to be used to pay off debts from the French & Indian War. We were taught all about Vietnam, the Tet Offensive, our withdrawal; we were taught all about Korea and McArthur Douglas's idiotic, overboard suggestions to wage war with China and the subsequent ass whooping done by China & NK; we were taught that the explosion of the USS Maine was almost certainly an accident and that the US government under McKinley used this as an excuse to fight the Spanish to gain access to Cuba.
I can't speak for every state/system, but seeing as NC is 46/50 in education and we know this stuff, I'm assuming it's basic knowledge for any high school history class in the US.
Again what the **** are you talking about? I'm starting to think you've never even taken a US history class in the US!
Hmmm, i thought it was added in 1996 and removed in 2001, what's the real length?
Alright, on that last part, as a student in the NC public education system, I have no ******* clue what you're talking about. The details leading up to the revolution, including tea taxes, were stressed to me by my teacher and textbook. We, in fact, are taught that the Revolutionary War could never have been won without large foreign, mainly French, assistance and the fact that it was a small part of a much wider war for the British. We were taught that it was a minority movement (and of course it would be, with most people being farmers, why the hell would they want a major political upheaval that could threaten their lives and/or livelihood?) We were taught the correct thing about the tea taxes and we know that those, among others, were to be used to pay off debts from the French & Indian War. We were taught all about Vietnam, the Tet Offensive, our withdrawal; we were taught all about Korea and McArthur Douglas's idiotic, overboard suggestions to wage war with China and the subsequent ass whooping done by China & NK; we were taught that the explosion of the USS Maine was almost certainly an accident and that the US government under McKinley used this as an excuse to fight the Spanish to gain access to Cuba.
I can't speak for every state/system, but seeing as NC is 46/50 in education and we know this stuff, I'm assuming it's basic knowledge for any high school history class in the US.
Again what the **** are you talking about? I'm starting to think you've never even taken a US history class in the US!
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Logicaltightrope (02/04/2014) [-] *Correction: The EU is more like a confederation than a federation, though not an exact fit to the definition.
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Logicaltightrope (02/03/2014) [-] Fair enough, have a parting gift, being a random picture from my folder.
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fedak ONLINE (02/03/2014) [-] Fun fact: At the time of the Boston Tea Party, the price of tea was at a low. The British government had seen that people were angry over taxes, and therefore removed most, and severely lowered the tax on tea. The Americans, however, saw this as a sign that the British government could still tax them when they wanted, and rioted for the principle of not being taxed on goods
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papastalin (02/02/2014) [-]
The little details in the background are awesome;
1st Panel, Bay of Pigs
2nd Panel Simo Häyhä (White Death)
3rd Panel Boston Tea Party
1st Panel, Bay of Pigs
2nd Panel Simo Häyhä (White Death)
3rd Panel Boston Tea Party
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reginleif (02/03/2014) [-] All England had to do was allow the colonies some autonomy, and MAYBE give them a seat in Parliament.
But the inbred King George had to go and **** everything up. Thinking you're too good to maintain relationships, and promote reasonable discourse is how empires are lost.
But the inbred King George had to go and **** everything up. Thinking you're too good to maintain relationships, and promote reasonable discourse is how empires are lost.
