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konradkurze (02/05/2014) [-] well other nations have settled down and kept their borders set,....while artificial israel only defines its borders by what it currently has conquered and holds....more than likely yet to expand further as it steals more land from arabs
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manofchalk (02/05/2014) [-] Isreal is a bit moreso, it was literally created by the UN at the end of World War II as compensation for the Jewish.
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konradkurze (02/05/2014) [-] stupid thing is, jews from europe arent even actual jews, theyre just the descendants of europeans who converted to judaism
thats like saying white people who convert to hinduism are indians
thats like saying white people who convert to hinduism are indians
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manofchalk (02/05/2014) [-] American Christians arent even actual Christians, their just descendants from European Christians who converted from various forms of Paganism to a religion formed in the Middle East.
Thats like saying American Christians are Middle-Eastern.
Your logic seems pretty stupid huh? Judaism is a religion, not nationality, exact same with Hinduism.
Thats like saying American Christians are Middle-Eastern.
Your logic seems pretty stupid huh? Judaism is a religion, not nationality, exact same with Hinduism.
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konradkurze (02/05/2014) [-] theres a difference between the jews of the middle east and the ashkenazi jews of europe
actually i think theres 6 different sects of judaism
yes the bible was written in the middle east but as soon as it hit europe they rewrote it to pamper europeans, such as changing most of the names to english names
you think there are people called peter, paul, daniel, etc in the middle east?
the jews in israel are semites aka arabic....the jews in europe are just the descendants of converts who by and large are white, and dont speak hebrew but in fact yiddish
the big problem is how people generalized jews as jews, not caring that real jews from israel are different than the converts elsewhere....hence how america came up with that phrase 'they dont look jewish" because of all the european jews who dont look like what the stereotypical jew does
actually i think theres 6 different sects of judaism
yes the bible was written in the middle east but as soon as it hit europe they rewrote it to pamper europeans, such as changing most of the names to english names
you think there are people called peter, paul, daniel, etc in the middle east?
the jews in israel are semites aka arabic....the jews in europe are just the descendants of converts who by and large are white, and dont speak hebrew but in fact yiddish
the big problem is how people generalized jews as jews, not caring that real jews from israel are different than the converts elsewhere....hence how america came up with that phrase 'they dont look jewish" because of all the european jews who dont look like what the stereotypical jew does
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darthsalias ONLINE (02/05/2014) [-] no one. NO ONE EVER veryveryverylittle converted to judiasm because of fear of execution or forced to move from their homes. the jews from eruope are still the same as those in jurisalem same blood line. the ashkenazi jews were just the group of people who didnt go back to cannan but rather move up because they werent allowed to because of moses. the jews that started isreal WERE MOSTLY FROM SURVIVORS FROM EUROPE'S WW2
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konradkurze (02/05/2014) [-] same blood line......thats like saying your average italian american is the same bloodline as julius caesar
the bloodline of the european jews has been so watered down they are pretty much just europeans that keep the faith
you look at an israeli, theyre semitic, tan skinned, black or dark brown hair, sometimes arabic features like the big noses of facial features
you look at the ashkenazi jews,..mostly you cant tell what they are till they tell you
one way to help you understand
look at ben stiller, david schwimmer, adam sandler, and jeff goldblum.....they show obvious semitic traits of their jewishness..........but if you look at say lisa kudrow, winona ryder, jennifer connoly, and courtney love...they just look like regular european people
the bloodline of the european jews has been so watered down they are pretty much just europeans that keep the faith
you look at an israeli, theyre semitic, tan skinned, black or dark brown hair, sometimes arabic features like the big noses of facial features
you look at the ashkenazi jews,..mostly you cant tell what they are till they tell you
one way to help you understand
look at ben stiller, david schwimmer, adam sandler, and jeff goldblum.....they show obvious semitic traits of their jewishness..........but if you look at say lisa kudrow, winona ryder, jennifer connoly, and courtney love...they just look like regular european people
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manofchalk (02/05/2014) [-] Eh, I'm not here to argue who or what defines the real (insert religion here). A religion is a system of belief, a persons nationality or lineage shouldnt matter to the validity of their right to a faith.
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konradkurze (02/05/2014) [-] well theres the misconception people have made that jew and israeli are one in the same
but then with interbreeding happening all over the place who really knows who what is
i knew a girl from Ukraine who's family practices the jewish religion, her family dont define their ethnicity as Ukrainian or even eastern european, they call themselves jews
its possible something in the religion makes them relate to all jews across the world as one big race....which isnt helped that the israeli government acts that way too....that people born in any other country who follow the faith can 'return' to israel
(with the exception of blacks, the israelis dont ******* care, they just see them as ******* not jews)
but then with interbreeding happening all over the place who really knows who what is
i knew a girl from Ukraine who's family practices the jewish religion, her family dont define their ethnicity as Ukrainian or even eastern european, they call themselves jews
its possible something in the religion makes them relate to all jews across the world as one big race....which isnt helped that the israeli government acts that way too....that people born in any other country who follow the faith can 'return' to israel
(with the exception of blacks, the israelis dont ******* care, they just see them as ******* not jews)
