Europe and Muslims
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gozoglontz ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-] why is austria lying on the beach chilling? austria doesnt even have a sea at any border
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gozoglontz ONLINE (01/27/2014) [-] Yeah but he should have drawn it in the middle of the island in my opinion , but still an awesome comic , ilove it
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] ******* son of a bitch. I'm tired of holding my tongue on this site. Not that my opinion really matters around here, but, **** them. I'm tired of their absolute horse **** . They leave their country that they are unhappy in, to go and find somewhere to be happy. And when they get there, they decide that it isn't good enough for them, but decide to stay because of free health care and jobs, then try and turn the area they live in, back into the dung hole they came from. At least England realizes that this **** needs to end before it gets out of hand, I just wish the rest of Europe would realize this. tl;dr **** Islamic immigrants
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] As a Muslim, you're being 100% erroneous. Refer to my comment #38.
It wasn't until just recently that Europe stopped colonizing/ ******* up foreign territories. Europe must take full responsibility for what you guys did to Africa/Middle East/Asia.
If you don't want to return the resources you exploited from said lands, then you better expect millions of ******* immigrants. Nobody is trying to change anything.
Rebuttal? I think not. Your views are nothing but a load of **** .
It wasn't until just recently that Europe stopped colonizing/ ******* up foreign territories. Europe must take full responsibility for what you guys did to Africa/Middle East/Asia.
If you don't want to return the resources you exploited from said lands, then you better expect millions of ******* immigrants. Nobody is trying to change anything.
Rebuttal? I think not. Your views are nothing but a load of **** .
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publicservice (01/28/2014) [-] Salam Alehkoum here...(your muslim convert/sister)
A lot of the west doesn't even know of the complete genocide done to Algeria. I won't justify the fact that we do have people from these countries come to Europe and pretty much turn a bit wild but that's how it is for every society at first (let's look at the vikings...our pilgrims in America...conquistadors) it's not the religion but the process of adaptation which people blame religion because it's easier to do.
A lot of the west doesn't even know of the complete genocide done to Algeria. I won't justify the fact that we do have people from these countries come to Europe and pretty much turn a bit wild but that's how it is for every society at first (let's look at the vikings...our pilgrims in America...conquistadors) it's not the religion but the process of adaptation which people blame religion because it's easier to do.
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] Thank you.
It really is people like you that brighten my day.
It really is people like you that brighten my day.
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] If it wasn't for European colonization, the world would be nowhere near as advanced as it is today. Please explain what we did that was so bad in all of those places. My views are well placed. Your countries have their culture, we have ours, and we don't need you coming here, and changing it, especially when it seems that it's working a Hell of a lot better than there ****** homeland.
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] Yeah. Thank GOODNESS for European colonization.
Hey, you wanna know what's Reaaally weird? Almost all of the formerly colonized countries are now 2nd and 3rd world countries!
Hey, you wanna know what's Reaaally weird? Almost all of the formerly colonized countries are now 2nd and 3rd world countries!
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] Know what else is really weird? Practically all of those countries are 2nd-3rd world countries by their own doing. But, every once in a while, you'll get amazing nations out of it, like China, Japan, America, Australia, Canada, etc.
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were historically, philisophically, and linguistically oblivious.
1. Europe removed foreign, formerly prosperous nations' governments. After exploiting the land/enslaving the people, Europe left the colonies with no government. Thus, the people literally had to rebuild their nation from scratch.
2. One or two good deeds do not outweigh countless atrocities. And stop acting like Europe had intended for the US, China, Australia, etc. to exist. They were all accidents/the result of uprisings from rebellious colonies that had enough of Europe's ******** .
3. I said almost all. Uganda, Somalia, both Congos, and Chad are just a few 3rd eworld nations that are the direct result of European colonialism.
1. Europe removed foreign, formerly prosperous nations' governments. After exploiting the land/enslaving the people, Europe left the colonies with no government. Thus, the people literally had to rebuild their nation from scratch.
2. One or two good deeds do not outweigh countless atrocities. And stop acting like Europe had intended for the US, China, Australia, etc. to exist. They were all accidents/the result of uprisings from rebellious colonies that had enough of Europe's ******** .
3. I said almost all. Uganda, Somalia, both Congos, and Chad are just a few 3rd eworld nations that are the direct result of European colonialism.
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] While those select few that we colonized may have been somewhat prosperous, the majority of what we colonized were natives. They had 10,000 years to get their **** together before we got there, and now, they still can't quite figure it out. We didn't leave those area's that we colonized for the Hell of it, most of them either rebelled, or requested to become sovereign nations. One or two good deeds? The creation of America, Japan, Australia, and all of those other countries I have mentioned not so much China have vastly outweighed those "atrocities". LOL, YOU ******* QUEER. YOU DELETED YOUR COMMENT XD. You said, sarcastically "Yeah. Thank GOODNESS for European colonization", so I replied explaining why it was so good that they did that. While it may not have been what they intended, you cannot say that it was bad that these countries have been created. You do realize that countless civil wars, famine, and disease have devastated those countries, right?
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
As a Muslim, I've got to say it is really quite stubborn of them. I myself am not an immigrant but my grandparents came to the US and they've adjusted fine. I think you're absolutely right that when people come to other countries they need to adapt to the culture. What these immigrants need to understand is that adapting to another culture does not mean abandoning your own, but unfortunately they don't quite understand that distinction. It is important to note however that not all Muslim immigrants are like that and not all like that are Muslim. We just happen to be pretty visible because a lot of Muslim countries are going to hell in a hand basket right now
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] In all actuality, I don't really care who comes to the U.S. It's a melting pot of all kinds of cultures. But, when they go to European countries, they're a threat to their life style. ******* Ireland, of all places, is going to have Islam as it's second religion in about 30 years. What we know now about France, will be completely changed in 40 or so years. The rest of Europe is in danger.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
Well why is that necessarily a bad thing? I mean as long as they're not trying to impose sharia (which is totally made up and not in the Qu'ran but that's a different argument) then what's the problem with a little diversity?
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] Because it's not just a little diversity. Germany, and several other European nations are considering legalizing Sharia law because of them. Any kind of crime committed with them being the victim will get you an extra sentencing for a hate crime, if you try to stand up against them, they will gang on you and mug you, they refuse to integrate, and instead create large communities of Islamic culture. Like I said before, Europe is in danger of losing it's culture to Islam.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
Well in that case I'd have to agree that is just ridiculous. And the thing that gets me is, Sharia law is completely made up by some imams! Yet Muslims are often stupid/uneducated and they think that sharia is actually part of the religion. The Qu'ran even says that you should follow the laws of whatever country you live in, so long as they do not impede the practice of your religion, and as far as I know, none of the European countries do, in my opinion at least.
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] If anything, they're trying not to offend them. Berlin banned public celebrations of Christmas "because it might offend certain people".
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] The loss of WWII has completely destroyed Germany's backbone in saying no to foreigners, especially when they're a different race. Even singing the official National anthem there is looked down upon because of WWII, but that's a different story
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
I'm sorry that's really ******* dumb. I personally don't understand why that's offensive, I mean no one is forcing them to celebrate it. Personally I love Christmas, I may not get presents or anything but the festive mood is always contagious. I don't have to agree with what's being celebrated to enjoy it. I'd consider that non-violent extremism and it will only keep growing within the Muslim community unless we can properly educate our youths. Anyways I could rant on that forever but I won't. A belated Merry Christmas form a Muslim.
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catpisseverdeen (01/28/2014) [-] And a late happy.... Eid ul-Fitr? Or something like that to you, from an agnostic Catholic. God I wish there was an edit button
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] The Koran is completely made up as well. There was no angel talking to a man in a cave relaying messages to him and telling him to form a religion. All religions are based on lies with no evidence to support them.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
You're certainly entitled to believe that and no one is stopping you, however you should also respect the fact that I hold my own beliefs as well.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] I respect the fact that people believe all number of things with no evidence. The ore you learn about yours and other religions, the sooner you will see that they are all scams that control people.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] Oh, a fedora joke! So original and devastating to boot! I think its hilarious that people even think this is remotely insulting and also to categorize atheists as wearing this item is even more ridiculous. Atheists just don't believe in anything with out proof. That is all.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
While I disagree with the fundamental statement that you have made, I can agree that religion is often used as a tool for manipulation. The key is to educate yourself such that you cannot be taken advantage of, and above all, never let anyone tell you what to believe without questioning it. I do not however believe that religion amounts to nothing more than a scam.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] It takes money from people, makes promises it cannot keep and statements that it cannot prove. It's a scam.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
Perhaps the brand of religion you are acquainted with does that but not nearly all. The only money I've ever spent in a Mosque was for A. the building of a new mosque which was sorely needed and we got one. It took a bit longer than expected, but we got it. B. Money that is given to charity, which is required in Islam, but if it's going to help people I don't really feel as though its being taken.
And I'd say you can't prove that every religion does not deliver on it's promises. If religion promises afterlife, you can't exactly disprove the existence of one unless you've died and come back. You may not believe it, and that's fine, but it's quite a bold statement for someone who demands evidence to definitively say that religions do not deliver on their promises.
And I'd say you can't prove that every religion does not deliver on it's promises. If religion promises afterlife, you can't exactly disprove the existence of one unless you've died and come back. You may not believe it, and that's fine, but it's quite a bold statement for someone who demands evidence to definitively say that religions do not deliver on their promises.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] A mosque is only a perceived necessity, not a real one. And as for your comment about not being able to disprove the afterlife: I don't need to. The burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim. So, if you can assert something, like the afterlife without proof, you can dismiss it without proof.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
Look honestly, we could go on like this forever; me arguing the merits of my religion, you arguing against; and we'd both think we were winning the argument. Instead, why don't we just agree that we each have the right to believe what we will, and as long as nobody is infringing upon the rights of another, then we can all just be friends and fight over other things like oil and politics
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] When religion interferes in politics and public policy, it is a problem. I think its intellectually lazy to not question the validity of a religion that makes so many unsubstantiated claims. And by the way, my last comment about the burden of proof is correct, so I hope you don't mean that you thought you were winning that one.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
You have your own set of moral beliefs which I am sure you apply when making political decisions. So do we, we derive ours from a set of teachings as I'm sure you do too. The teachings from which you derive yours are simply not part of a larger belief system and not necessarily taken directly from a specific source. In the end, we all use our own system of moral reasoning to derive certain political viewpoints, the source is irrelevant, the fact is that they hold a particular viewpoint. A democracy is generally concerned with what the majority want not why they want it.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] Your beliefs are based on unproven stories but secular morality is superior because we look at cause and effect, what works best for most people and do not have to refer to a non-existent sky fairy for guidance.
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
Let's assume for the purpose of argument that I agree that God does not exist and holy books were written by man. In that case what you have is a man writing a set of beliefs based on what he perceives will benefit people the most. Therefore the same thing as your "superior" secular logic. You may disagree all you want, but the superiority of your logic is subjective.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] These stories were written by primitive savages that knew very little about the world compared to us now, so it makes no sense to refer to what these people thought back then when we live n a far more enlightened time. Secular morality can change, but if you think that the koran is a perfect book, and we can see that it isn't, why still refer to something that is so outdated?
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
And referring to your point about these ideas being old and therefore outdated, many of the ideas about society that we hold true today originate from the early ponderings of Greek philosophers, but would you also say these are outdated? That these men were unenlightened?
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] Some ideas are outdated, yes. That is why we scrap the old and reinvent things to be better. The ancient Greeks weren't all as civilized as they are often thought of as being. There were wars and violence all the time....Plato even hated democracy. But if a tenant, such as 'kill homosexuals' is in an ancient holy book, should we not discard it?
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kingoflint (01/28/2014) [-]
I personally don't see any problems with the Qu'ran. Problems wit the way people interpret and follow it? Yes. Due to rampant misinformation and lack of education. I believe that if the teachings in the Qu'ran were followed properly we'd be fine.
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] Holy **** you become more retarded w/ every post you make.
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popeflatus (01/28/2014) [-] Thank you for that insightful comment, I trust your magic sky daddy telepathically instructed you to reply to me. Blabber blabber blue hack bar!
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alltimetens (01/28/2014) [-] Just when I thought you've reached the extent of stupidity.
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badsamaritan ONLINE (01/28/2014) [-] Even though this would be a tragedy just like 9/11 the jokes would be 10x more funny.
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thismustbeseen (01/28/2014) [-] Ha! Next step is to trick them into a shower!
... I'm gonna get so many reds for that. :|
... I'm gonna get so many reds for that. :|
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jackchillin (01/28/2014) [-] doslo vreme da se srbi svete, sve djamije u oblake lete, nema ante azema i tite, da te opet od srbina stite
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alhemicar (01/28/2014) [-] Hej ko na Božić u Kravicu dođe
Naser Orić nije Karađorđe
kad vidješe sa svih strana puca
stadoše im u grudima srca
ostaviše i Božić i Slavu
samo živu da izvuku glavu
ej ostaviše i Isusa sama
da ga Turci pogaze nogama
a na stolu torte i kolači
neka jede ko je bio jači
džabe što su tehniku imali
opet im se Kravica zapali
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Naser svojim borcima govori
vi slavite dok Kravica gori
nema više gnijezda dušmanskoga
baš na Božić ogrijala Boga
mjesto popa što sveti vodicu
došetao Naser u Kravicu
hej šta je ovo Naser borce pita
nemam kome Božić da čestitam
hajmo kući braćo Muslimani
mi smo ovdje došli nepozvani...
Naser Orić nije Karađorđe
kad vidješe sa svih strana puca
stadoše im u grudima srca
ostaviše i Božić i Slavu
samo živu da izvuku glavu
ej ostaviše i Isusa sama
da ga Turci pogaze nogama
a na stolu torte i kolači
neka jede ko je bio jači
džabe što su tehniku imali
opet im se Kravica zapali
..................................
Naser svojim borcima govori
vi slavite dok Kravica gori
nema više gnijezda dušmanskoga
baš na Božić ogrijala Boga
mjesto popa što sveti vodicu
došetao Naser u Kravicu
hej šta je ovo Naser borce pita
nemam kome Božić da čestitam
hajmo kući braćo Muslimani
mi smo ovdje došli nepozvani...
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jackchillin (01/28/2014) [-] Never heard that one brate but I like it. *offers handshake* I'm messing by the way I have no problem with Bosnians, **** they know how to drink haram . Odakle si?
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alhemicar (01/28/2014) [-] whoops, otiš'o bio spavat
Pretpostavljao sam, nemam ni ja problem sa Srbima *accepts handshake*
jebiga, haram je i kurvat se pa opet ovdje imaš "vjernike" tipa Selam gore bujrum dole
Živim u Sarajevu, ali sam rodom iz Kladnja You need to login to view this link ako ne znaš gdje je
You?
Pretpostavljao sam, nemam ni ja problem sa Srbima *accepts handshake*
jebiga, haram je i kurvat se pa opet ovdje imaš "vjernike" tipa Selam gore bujrum dole
Živim u Sarajevu, ali sam rodom iz Kladnja You need to login to view this link ako ne znaš gdje je
You?
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jackchillin (01/28/2014) [-] Rodio sam se u Beogradu a kad sam bio mali ziveo sam u Novu Sadu dve godine. Sada zivim u Manchesteru u Engleskoj; nisam pravi srbin, kume, tata je iz Beograda, mama je iz Varsave. Ucim jazik a jos ne govorim dobro ocigledno , hocu da govorim bez gresaka jednog dana, najlepsi jazik!
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baitman (01/28/2014) [-] Most of them died when their boat magically caught flames near an Italian island. Serves them right.
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anon (01/27/2014) [-]
Ha! ******* great! Put it in my favourite folder and gave you a thumb. Nicely done!
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DerpDerpDerp (01/28/2014) [-] But then when Asia asks what happened "its the police ma'am, your son has been killed, the driver was an alcohol."
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Shiny ONLINE (01/28/2014) [-] Most Muslims that leave the Middle East want to get away from the bomb happy extremists. The nations that lower standards for Muslims and refuse to deport Sharia advocates because of "cultural differences" just goes to show even more ignorance by assuming being militant is somehow a modern cultural cornerstone (hint: it's not).
Call me PC or whatever, but I might not even exist if anti-Irish America refused my ancestors' immigration during the potato famines and starved, so I guess I can relate.
Call me PC or whatever, but I might not even exist if anti-Irish America refused my ancestors' immigration during the potato famines and starved, so I guess I can relate.
