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OC-Acting like your shit don't stink. Seriously. Have we not learned this by now? And I know what you're gonna say "oh well we don't do that" or &quot

Seriously. Have we not learned this by now? And I know what you're gonna say "oh well we don't do that" or "oh we only point of the bad, cringey ones" or some other cop out excuse. To you, it's not about that. We just want something to hate, it's just that we picked the dumbest ******* thing in the world to complain about.

I'm a grown ass man who likes power rangers, law and order, anime, video games, disney movies, horror movies and yes, even MLP. And I draw porn of a lot of these things. Know why? Cause I'm a grown man and I can do whatever I ******* want and so can you.

Hate in the other direction is still hate, and life is too short to worry about stupid **** like "oh you like MLP, you're bad because I need to validate my opinions by going on the internet and agreeing with the majority cause I'm a mindless ******* sheep"

Like what you wanna like and **** anybody else who ridicules you for it. You don't have anything to prove to anyone.

Rant mode over. Thumb as you wish, I'mma go draw more porn.

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User avatar #6 - goodguygary (10/06/2015) [-]
i don't have a problem with either of those shows, in fact i find them both pretty charming. my problem is the autists who take that **** way too seriously. i'm talking **** such as brony convention attenders and the like.
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User avatar #53 to #6 - KazumaKyu ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
So the only part about people liking a thing that you have a problem with is the part where the people who like the thing get together with other people who like the thing so they can socialize collectively in person. It's the part where enjoyment of the thing is shared mutually throughout a group of people that you take exception with.
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User avatar #59 to #53 - goodguygary (10/07/2015) [-]
do i have a problem with people liking a thing and gathering to socialize and talk about it? no not at all. it's the part where people pay to go and gather. it's the part where you can be paying up to 80 bucks just for a three day affair, JUST to socialize with people who have the same hobby, not to mention the travel expenses people pay just to get there. that's my problem.
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#57 to #53 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
Yes.
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#43 to #6 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
"oh we only point of the bad, cringey ones"
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User avatar #7 to #6 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
Well, conventions I can deal with (I go to comicon every year)

But any fan of any thing can take things too far. I agree with you though.
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#29 - guitarassassin ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
Powerpuff girls was a show meant for both boys and girls. The toys were just easier to market to little girls due to the gender of the protagonists. MLP on the other hand is a show meant for girls exclusively.
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User avatar #30 to #29 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
Lauren faust stated the same thing for PPG that she said for MLP which was basically "anyone can enjoy my shows, I don't care who" and she even said she's glad for her male fans.

Both shows were made for a wide audience to enjoy, it's just that one is marketed towards girls more than the other.
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#42 to #30 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
Lauren Faust is the creator of the show, ergo she gets paid when people like, watch, and buy **** related to it. Of course she said that. Not a solid argument.
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#36 to #30 - guitarassassin ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
Lauren Faust wasn't the creator of PPG, so her statement on that front doesn't mean anything.
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User avatar #37 to #36 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
She wrote on both shows. And Craig McCracken (the creator and her husband) said the same thing.
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User avatar #58 to #36 - scootabot (10/07/2015) [-]
This has gone one for five years. No one gives a **** if it's marketed to little girls. The fans managed to etch a market all of their own. The creators know it and they love the thought that they have ADULTS willing to buy their **** . They just doubled their audience and got even more money.

So what if people like watching **** for kids? Let them. They aren't hurting anyone. If they have any shame outside of their homes.

Honestly, live and let live. If someone wants to watch MLP, let them. It's not hurting you and the only thing that you have to worry about are minor inconveniences at worst.
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User avatar #55 to #36 - peanutsaurusrex ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
no but she was the voice of Bubbles
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#60 to #55 - scootabot (10/07/2015) [-]
Actually, that's Tara Strong.

I think she's really pretty.
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User avatar #61 to #60 - peanutsaurusrex ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
shush im right 100% dont ruin my dreams
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#34 - notsohappygamer (10/06/2015) [-]
im just gonna leave this here....
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#54 to #34 - scootabot (10/07/2015) [-]
For fun.
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User avatar #68 to #54 - notsohappygamer (10/07/2015) [-]
okay that is amazing
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#5 - uleaveinpieces (10/06/2015) [-]
It's not really the regular fans of the show that ruined it as much as the extremist fans. The obsessed people that would stampede through the children's toy isle and knock over little kids to get whatever ******** hasbro put out for them to buy. took me a while to look through my reaction folders to find one that wasn't rude since I actually have some respect for you op
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User avatar #11 to #5 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
Again, extremist fans of anything can ruin anything. Bronies just happen to have to more noticed ones. I got a rainbow dash doll. I didn't buy it, my baby brother bought it for me because he knew I liked the show. But I still keep that **** on my shelf cause I don't give a **** .

It's all about not giving **** .

Also, thank you.
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#64 to #11 - brahdin (10/07/2015) [-]
i however have no respect for anyone so, here's my roodest gif for you!
GET OVER IT! People are gonna act stupid and judge everything, best to enjoy what you can while you can and remember the better times. i jest but of course, you know i hold thee dearest....fam.
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User avatar #65 to #64 - inuyuru [OP](10/07/2015) [-]
"GET OVER IT" is exactly my point.
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#21 - captainprincess (10/06/2015) [-]
Puffboys suck for corrupting Powerpuff Girls!
If you like a show marketed to girls you're wrong!
I have no idea if male ppg fans are claled puffboys but Ive decided that they are because it's an adorable as **** name
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#47 to #21 - thousandsuns (10/07/2015) [-]
I like this idea.
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#49 - anon (10/07/2015) [-]
inuyuru, you almost remind me of Totallytito's wisdom.
You might be saying it differently, but your feelings about wanting everyone to focus more on being happy than sad is beautiful.


Pony fan or not, you're human in my eyes, man.
I'll be nicer to the bronies from now on, no sarcasm either.
It's been 5 years, and I'm turning 22. It's time that I drop this 'cancer'/'cringe' hating crap...
I have a wife, a baby girl, and a small house.
I shouldn't be doing this kind of **** anymore, I'm not an angsty 4chan-browsing tween with angst anymore. It's time to move on.

Thank you.
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User avatar #52 to #49 - inuyuru [OP](10/07/2015) [-]
Good to hear. And congrats on the kid.
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#8 - captainspankmonkey ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
The moral of the story kids is shut the **** up and enjoy things.
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User avatar #28 - TheMather ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
There's a difference between just enjoying something and partaking in its fandom. Adults creating and sharing fanart and fanfiction about other children's cartoons is just as cringe worthy as it is for MLP. The point isn't that you aren't allowed to like something for which you're not in the target audience, it's that it's downright disgusting to hijack the fandom like bronies did.
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User avatar #31 to #28 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
So, the Steven Universe fans didn't do the exact same thing? If I made this post about SU fans instead of Bronies, would people even still be arguing about this?
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User avatar #32 to #31 - TheMather ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
Actually no. SU seems to have a much less active fanbase. They do produce a somewhat significant amount of fanart, but they do so on a standalone basis, I've never seen nor heard of them forming any kind of community akin a fandom apart from the infamously cancerous /sug/.
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User avatar #33 to #32 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
Oh Jesus, then you haven't met the people I've met.

My point is, hating all bronies because of a cancerous bunch on the internet would be like me hating all SU fans for the same reason. And it would be just as stupid.
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User avatar #45 to #33 - TheMather ONLINE (10/07/2015) [-]
Except "brony" is an identity stemmed from a fandom. SU fan literally just means "someone who enjoys watching of SU."
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#9 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
That's a pretty basic and solid argument, but you know people will be stupid and hate things that are "popular" or seem weird to them without really thinking about it. However, I have to say one thing that does bother me about the "bronies" and always has is not that they enjoy the show that is "meant for children", it's that they sexualize it. I know, I know, it's practically human nature to sexualize anything at this point. I mean, Power Puff Girls, for example, got sexualized and even the creators are guilty of making a 'Teen' version where they flirted with the Rowdy Ruff boys. Definitely PG-13, but not everything is. But the main issue is that what was being sexualized wasn't human. Unlike the Power Puff Girls who were about 90% human, the ponies of MLP did not have these features, especially early on before the "equestria girls" or whatever it's called. They were horses being sexualized and that's... well, a realm of fetishness that I would prefer remain to the side with Vore and Gore. Which is another subject entirely. If they looked human, it would have been one thing, but it was typically just them as horses and that's... well, to be blunt, pretty gross. Needless to say I don't think all Bronies fall into that realm, but that's the reason I could never get behind anything they did or ranted about. There was also some argument about this I saw that said it was "for their personalities, rather than their bodies" and that's complete crap since none of the characters would actually do any of the stuff seen in pornography. Which is a factor for almost any pornography in general. Most of the time, characters in that stuff act nothing like they do in their show, thus making that argument rather moot. Now, if they had given them human looks from the very start, and simply included added features such as a "horn" for the character or small horse-like ears instead of regular human ears... That'd be fine. Even differently colored skin would be fine. But having 'hooves' or the shape of a horse at all would be crossing into the realm that shouldn't be touched. Basically, the problem I personally had with MLP and "Bronies" was that a majority fall into a group that wants to screw horses. And that's not right, to me at least. If you also fall into that group, then I apologize for the off-handed insult, but if you are not, then I have no problem with you enjoying the show. I enjoy shows "meant" for children as well, such as several animes and not to mention cartoons / movies like the Emporer's New Groove. Nothing wrong with liking that stuff. But bestiality is... different, I think. Sorry for the long comment.
That's a pretty basic and solid argument, but you know people will be stupid and hate things that are "popular" or seem weird to them without really thinking about it.

However, I have to say one thing that does bother me about the "bronies" and always has is not that they enjoy the show that is "meant for children", it's that they sexualize it.

I know, I know, it's practically human nature to sexualize anything at this point. I mean, Power Puff Girls, for example, got sexualized and even the creators are guilty of making a 'Teen' version where they flirted with the Rowdy Ruff boys. Definitely PG-13, but not everything is.

But the main issue is that what was being sexualized wasn't human. Unlike the Power Puff Girls who were about 90% human, the ponies of MLP did not have these features, especially early on before the "equestria girls" or whatever it's called.

They were horses being sexualized and that's... well, a realm of fetishness that I would prefer remain to the side with Vore and Gore. Which is another subject entirely. If they looked human, it would have been one thing, but it was typically just them as horses and that's... well, to be blunt, pretty gross.

Needless to say I don't think all Bronies fall into that realm, but that's the reason I could never get behind anything they did or ranted about. There was also some argument about this I saw that said it was "for their personalities, rather than their bodies" and that's complete crap since none of the characters would actually do any of the stuff seen in pornography. Which is a factor for almost any pornography in general. Most of the time, characters in that stuff act nothing like they do in their show, thus making that argument rather moot.

Now, if they had given them human looks from the very start, and simply included added features such as a "horn" for the character or small horse-like ears instead of regular human ears... That'd be fine. Even differently colored skin would be fine. But having 'hooves' or the shape of a horse at all would be crossing into the realm that shouldn't be touched.

Basically, the problem I personally had with MLP and "Bronies" was that a majority fall into a group that wants to screw horses. And that's not right, to me at least.

If you also fall into that group, then I apologize for the off-handed insult, but if you are not, then I have no problem with you enjoying the show. I enjoy shows "meant" for children as well, such as several animes and not to mention cartoons / movies like the Emporer's New Groove. Nothing wrong with liking that stuff.

But bestiality is... different, I think.

Sorry for the long comment.
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User avatar #10 to #9 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
I enjoy MLP from time to time. I used to be into it but not really anymore, I kind of fell off.
But the thing with this is, MLP wasn't meant for children it was MARKETED to children. Lauren Faust said so herself (she said the same thing when she made PPG)

As for the porn, I say let them have it. It's weird yeah, but whatever. Plus, I'm a porn artist. I draw porn of everything, MLP included. I have to room to judge.

But even so, the common consensus I'm against overall is the immidiate knee-jerk reaction FJers and Tumblrtards have to bronies or anything different (i.e. instant distaste)

Example: in a recent episode, Big Mac (AJ's brother) crossdress for...some reason. I dunno. But he was accused of transmisoginy or some such nonsense and everyone loses their ******* minds.

Steven of Steven Universe crossdressed and did a ******* song and dance routine in a recent SU episode and no one bats an eye. Sugar was ever praised for it. My point is, it's a double-edged sword.

I say, just like what you like, do what you do and keep it moving.
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#12 to #10 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
Regardless of if you draw it or not,, I think there is a bit of a line in porn that shouldn't really be crossed, but is crossed anyways. As someone who does not draw porn, I don't have the same values in that regard.

Beastality, Vore, Gore, and a few other things shouldn't really be... I dunno. Stuff you just shouldn't shrug to. I commend your attitude to turning the other cheek, but some things I feel need to be asked "why?"

I mean, if everyone followed the "just do what you like" mentality, then we'd have a lot more mass murderers out there as they'd kill people just because of an insult. I know the context is very different from sexualized stuff to that, though the "just do what you like" could also lead to rape scenarios, but it should still be taken into account when using it in an argument like that.

That being said on your other stuff: I don't have instant distaste for anything about Bronies other than their sexual fetish with horses. Beyond that, I think it's fine to like that show and there's nothing wrong with making non-sexual fan stuff about it.

As for your last bit, about the crossdressing, I do have to say the context and the overall fanbase for both are probably very different. You may say they were praising SU for such a thing yet yelling at MLP, but there were probably very different groups doing the talking. Not to mention it is a bit different when a horse is the one cross dressing... Not really sure why they'd even be wearing clothes. Most of the stuff I've seen of the actual show tends to leave them "Naked", by our standards, beyond glasses, a harness, or a saddle... despite having no one riding them.

... Hm.

Anyways, I do think people shouldn't care if others judge them harshly for something simple. But other stuff like sexual fetishes and their overall mentality should be questioned, because they may not understand what is "wrong" with their actions. Like murdering and what not. Not to say the sexual stuff is in the same realm as that, but should still be sort of on the same page in regards to what should be questioned.

That's all I really have to say.
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User avatar #13 to #12 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
For the crossdressing thing I think it's something you shouldn't think about too much (but we do)

As for the fetish thing there are some lines even I won't cross (like vore, or full on clop) but don't care if other people do (mostly because I just don't wanna ******* know, you know?)
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#14 to #13 - bluemagebrilly ONLINE (10/06/2015) [-]
Definitely. I mean, a lot of stuff gets switched around a lot over the years. Girls used to be the "Soft blue" and guys were the "manly pink", you know? So long as they aren't wearing something harmful, like a guy wearing something that pinches down there and ruins his body, then it should be fine.

That's more or less what I was getting at, haha. Most fetish things are okay, even if I don't like them myself, but stuff like Vore is just... ugh. It's just gross and weird.

Anywho, sorry for leaving walls of text on your post. <(' '<)
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User avatar #15 to #14 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
It's cool.
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#38 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
Yeah **** people that have an own opinion

How dare they?!
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User avatar #39 to #38 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
That's not what I said.
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User avatar #40 to #38 - magicalfruitbasket (10/06/2015) [-]
Well my opinion is that you're a stupid cunt.
Oh wait it's only an opinion if you agree with it.
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#22 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
You're a Brony. Anything you say makes your argument completely invalid.

Sick freaks.

"Oh but Anon, I am not a clopper or someone who jerks off to Ponies!"

No, maybe, maybe not, the majority of your 'kind' do though and you meet those people actively (albeit only online). For ***** sake, you watch a show for little girls, PPG was a Cartoon Network show that targeted 12 and up most of the time. The Apple/Pear comparison is completely skewed here.
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#23 to #22 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
I'm actually a little impressed. You both missed my point and proved it at the same time. That takes effort.
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#24 to #23 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
Need citation.

What points? Where validated ánd missed?
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#25 to #24 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
For starters I'm not a brony. Second, Lauren Faust made both MLP and PPG and said the same thing about both shows when asked about her male/older fanbase which was essentially "I made (show here) to be entertained by all parties, just MARKETED to girls because of their nature. Anyone can like my show(s)"

For further points the writers for MLP worked on Dexter's Lab and Johnny bravo, even reusing voice actors. She's also married to Craig McCracken who pretty much made CN at the time. Her IMDB in the spoiler, for more info, google it

www.imdb.com/name/nm0269260/

My other point was that, if you're going to bash someone for liking something made for girls and you yourself like a show made for girls (or any cartoon as most of marketed/made for children) then the opposite is true for you. Glass houses, anon.

You should't bash people for liking something because of the few on the internet you've seen because it's a gross misrepresentation. Didn't this **** happen in the 90's with male PPG fans too? Most bronies are just regular dudes who like the show. And sure, cons and **** with people dressing up like that. You know who else does that? Anyone, ever. Comic fans, Sports fans, Anime fans, they ALL do that. It's called being fanatic. You seem to have forgotten, everyone has to propensity to be as cancerous as anyone so don't generalize.

Brony hate is just regular knee-jerk hate with a different coat of paint and it's just as stupid and pointless now as it was then.
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#51 to #25 - catchphrase (10/07/2015) [-]
>Not a brony
>24 year old male that watches mlp

okie m8 ;^)
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User avatar #26 - xerlexer (10/06/2015) [-]
Preach it brother
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User avatar #16 - Zaxplab (10/06/2015) [-]
At what point does critique become "going on the internet and agreeing with the majority cause I'm a mindless ******* sheep?"
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User avatar #17 to #16 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
Citique is one thing, instantly hating someone or something because you wanna look cool, or agree, or can't form your own opinions is quite another.

If you're a critic, you have a well thought out, formulated opinion on the matter at hand after looking at both sides of the situation or product, then coming up with an opinion that reflects the well researched.

A mindless internet sheep just hates and bashes whatever because other people do it. Essentially, what Tumblr and FJ (recently) does.
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User avatar #18 to #17 - Zaxplab (10/06/2015) [-]
Say if I had a suspicion that I would not like something (say, a TV show) based on what I had seen of it, and formed a simple opinion after watching it. Now, say the opinion I formed after watching the show confirmed my previous opinion, which matched the opinion of the majority.

Would saying "That show was so bad I almost died" make you a mindless sheep?
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User avatar #19 to #18 - inuyuru [OP](10/06/2015) [-]
If you didn't think you'd like it before, and didn't after, that's another matter entirely.

For instance, I thought Monster Musume was going to be boring. A friend told me to give it a try, I did and I still find if boring. I don't think less of fans of the show, I just don't see the appeal.

If you said it in a way like"this show is garbage" (like how I refer to M and M's) then that's fine because you made a deduction, you tried it, and you were correct.

A mindless sheep would just hate it because reasons.
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User avatar #3 - navadae (10/06/2015) [-]
i dont like MLP.. but i`m not gonna scorn people that do, i mean some of my friends like it, one would probably be considered a 'brony' but.. whatever floats your boat, doesn't affect me so like whatever you like
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#2 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
Penile
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#44 - kwanzalord (10/06/2015) [-]
I think moderation is a key thing here.
It's fine in moderation to watch something or to show an interest.
It is NOT, however, fine to obsess over something that really wasn't meant for you.

It's fine to watch an episode or two of MLP. It's fine that you watch it with your younger sister or niece.
It is NOT fine to dedicate your being to a show catered to young (female) children. It is NOT fine to hijack the show and take over from the actual targeted demographic.

"But it was made for everyone to enjoy"
There are a few problems with this argument.
1) This is a method to try and appeal to more people for the sake of the show's success. Not because the show was actually made like that.
2) It was made to not be so mind numbing for the parent or adult to watch with their children (not fully grown men to watch by themselves).

"it's a good show with great messages"
If you have to learn about friendship and morality through a show catered to little girls, you're pretty ****** .

"But what's the difference between Steven Universe and us?"
1) Steven Universe is clearly catered toward an older fanbase
2) Steven Universe is catered toward everyone and it is VERY clear about that

Yes, the fans obsess over it, and they are **** as well...but they still are a step above MLP fans by two points.

When you have to try so hard to justify something to so many people...it's probably because there's something wrong with you.
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#46 - scootabot (10/07/2015) [-]
I've been told constantly that what I like devalues me as a human.

I've heard it for the better of four years now. I've noticed that it's slowed down considerably, but still, the harassment still comes. I just ignore it like any adult would, but deep down I just wanna tell them off.

Like, what sort of person goes around telling others what they should and shouldn't like? Isn't it up to the person themselves to determine what they feel is good and entertaining to them?

Everyone is going to have an opinion, but you're an ass when you just go out of your way to insult someone who does or watches a certain thing because it doesn't fall into your category of 'entertainment'.

It shouldn't be up to anyone else who determines what I say or what I do. This is the internet. This is where I celebrate being a pegasister and I'm not about to give it up anytime soon because someone has his sensibilities offended because of cartoon mini-horses.
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#41 - anon (10/06/2015) [-]
Now listen, OP. I like you, you're cool... but this comic was A) a lovely use of a strawman and B) a complete waste of time. Everything you've said has been said before, and even had it not been, you're not going to change anyone's mind with this. Me, I don't care about bronies. If I know you masturbate to cartoon horses or draw dicks on SU characters that should not have dicks you soulless monster I might think, "Huh, wish I didn't know that", but I won't try and **** on you for it. I've jacked it to some ****** up **** myself, I can't exactly cast the first stone here. The people who will think less of others for doing that kind of stuff, though, they've felt this way for a long time and they won't change their minds just because some guy on a random website posted a condescending rant calling them out.

The only assholes you should bother with focusing on are the ones you draw and the ones you dick. The kind of assholes you're talking about here aren't worth your time.
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User avatar #69 - dalokan (10/08/2015) [-]
I have a problem because i have ******* little sisters that have seen MLP porn back when google filter was **** /it was still booming it.

There's also the fact that the extreme fans of something (Whovians, Bronies, Literal weeaboos and homestuck fans) will make stupid, senseless crossovers and use those to butt in any conversation.
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#67 - catx (10/07/2015) [-]
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**catx rolled image**mfw liking something makes it okay to sexualize it. i got no problem with people liking mlp and various different cartoons, but making sexual comics and videos, and posting them online ruins any purity that might be expressed in those shows to a young group of people. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with any kind of sexuality, but my daughter likes mlp(loosely from watching some of the cartoons) and it would probably **** up her entire view of it if she searched online and found your nasty ass porn. Now, i won't just let my daughter go online and look at whatever she wants, so I don't have a whole lot to worry about as far as that goes, but should any other parent not be as mindful as i, their child might see your ****** up **** . children aren't developed enough to understand what sexuality is. if mlp is cool with you whatever, good on you. I liked comic books when i was a kid. I found some that my father had hidden that were pretty much porn. I don't blame my dad, or hate the fact that i found them as a seven year old, but they have forever effected my mind on sexuality....and can i just say...I'm a fiend for sex and like it. is that healthy?? It hasn't proven to be. that's just me though.
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