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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#28 - lesterthered
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when a pro dota player got in a car crash, blinded, hands broken, all his dream is lost after 5 years of dota, when finally he discovers hope again, he discovers lol, which allowed him to play even with disabilities.
#129 to #28 - anon id: 64275ced
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bahahahaha
User avatar #155 to #28 - perform
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If you're not disabled when you begin to play lol, you will be.
User avatar #156 to #28 - mutantunicorn
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cause you can actually control the champions proerply?
#1 - letmetouchyourboob
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i still fail to understand the logic behind comparing Dota and LOL, like i mean they're both Moba's. but that's about all they share (apart from some developers) it's like cod and halo. yer their in the same genre, but they appeal to a widely different audience.
User avatar #31 to #1 - theblargypargler
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What are the differences anyway?
User avatar #99 to #1 - schmuxy
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But really the whole point of comparing two games is to figure out their distances...
#101 to #1 - anon id: 3246f979
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i played dota then moved to lol they are exactly the same, not only lol copied dota and got better but the whole game experience the same everything
User avatar #110 to #1 - whiplasher
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Simple. League players like to remind Dota 2 players that LoL is more popular. Dota 2 players like to remind LoL players that LoL is casual compared to Dota 2. And it goes on and on...


Also, League has ****** art design. **** that.
#161 to #1 - anon id: 335ddddd
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people still argue about which is better between cod and halo though
User avatar #207 to #1 - garymotherfingoak
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Because people like arguing and forget that the thing they like doesn't have to be better than something else.
#3 to #1 - bluemagebrilly
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I mostly agree, but League gets a lot of flak from being a Dota clone back in its early stages, and not being as difficult. I personally prefer Dota 2 over League from what that game has become. It was fun, but Dota 2 is, in my opinion, way more balanced and interesting to play than League is.

But to each their own. These arguments will keep going on until one of them dies, and then it'll be comparing them to the newest Moba, or Smite.

Not HoN though. That one isn't even on the table.

User avatar #15 to #3 - rheago
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I tried Dota 2 and I didn't like it
I tried league and I liked it
I don't think Dota is a bad game, it's just not for me

There should be more people like you
#16 to #15 - bluemagebrilly
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Dota 2 is definitely more harsh than League is, so I can understand not wanting to play it. Personally, I'd say give it a few more tries, maybe play the new tutorial they put out awihle ago. It has an RPG factor, from what I played, then it puts you into a bot match.   
   
Neither are 'bad' games, or really 'better' than each other, but I still enjoy Dota more.
Dota 2 is definitely more harsh than League is, so I can understand not wanting to play it. Personally, I'd say give it a few more tries, maybe play the new tutorial they put out awihle ago. It has an RPG factor, from what I played, then it puts you into a bot match.

Neither are 'bad' games, or really 'better' than each other, but I still enjoy Dota more.
User avatar #39 to #16 - jewbob
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I've played League for quite a while now and for some reason the biggest issue with Dota for me was how ***** the camera felt. Nothing specific about the camera, just... *****.
#43 to #39 - bluemagebrilly
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The camera does get odd sometimes, admittedly. They've been trying to fix it, but... I dunno. It takes some getting used to, just make sure you never press i.
User avatar #66 to #43 - jewbob
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I might give it a revisit some time. The only 'hero' I liked was Chaos Knight (or something). Do any characters in that game have lane harass/good mana pools? I think it's the only way I'd have it smooth.
User avatar #71 to #66 - bluemagebrilly
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Most of the intelligence heroes have great lane harass and mana pools. One of the best is Lion, in my opinion. He's a little ugly, but he has a ranged line-stun, a single target 'Hex' (which makes it so they can move around, but they're slowed and can't do anything but move), and his E allows you to drain mana from the ranged creeps, jungle creeps, /and/ the heroes in the lane so long as they have mana to drain.

Just throwing your Earth Spike (his line stun), and then using your mana drain is great lane harass, so long as you don't put yourself in the middle of them! Along with that, once you reach level 6 with Lion you can use his 'Finger of Death' ability which is enough to kill someone who is at 400ish health instantly, which can be combined with your harass up until that point. (It says 600 damage on the skill, but it's -25% because of base magic resistance on all heroes except for Meepo, who has 33% magic resist.)

Chaos Knight is a 'carry', though, and has high damage and great abilities, but his mana pool is bad because of his low intelligence gain and high mana cost. Mostly because his skills are really strong, too.
User avatar #198 to #71 - jewbob
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Sorry for hoppin' back to you late, I tried Lion out and he's for sure closer to what I'm used to. If you've ever played League it's more often than not chucking skills at them until you can run in and close the deal, ex. Nidalee, Karthus, Veigar, Twisted Fate, Cho'Gath with the right build, (insert everybody but pure melee without poke). Anyways, that was a good tip and I may play DOTA again soon.
User avatar #17 to #16 - rheago
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I just don't like the art style really
I'm more into the cartoon-ish style of league
#18 to #17 - bluemagebrilly
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I...

I don't really have a remark for that.

You really shouldn't base a game just for its art. Plus most of Dota's characters have vanity items you can collect to customize their appearance.
User avatar #67 to #18 - citruslord
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While I play DOTA, I agree with rheago. I much prefer LOLs art to DOTA, I've just always prefered that eastern flavor over the western. It's one of the first things that turned me off of WoW and similar MMOs, I generally can't stand western fantasy art. If you're going to be looking at something the whole time, not liking the way it looks is a big deal.
The only reason I play DOTA is because more of my friends play it, and the ones I have that played LOL got WAY to competitive for me. Lol in general got too competitive IMO.
User avatar #19 to #18 - rheago
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Still, I'm going to stick to league I think.
I'm finally starting to get better at it so starting over with a new game might suck a bit.

But who knows, some day I might play dota again
#20 to #19 - bluemagebrilly
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Completely up to you, and I have no intention of trying to convert you or anything, haha. Not really into that!

But you should definitely look past the art in a game. Most 'good' games don't even look that great, like the ever popular Minecraft or Terraria. Anywho, good luck and have fun.

d(' ')z
User avatar #21 to #20 - rheago
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I love minecraft and terarria
User avatar #147 to #3 - jamiemsm
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but HoN was the real Dota clone though.
had the same heroes with maybe one different ability and the same items too.
+ the map was identical in many ways.

and it was way too easy
#181 to #147 - bluemagebrilly
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HoN was trash, and still is. I feel bad saying that about a game, but it was awful. Literal Dota 2 clone, but everything was super charged. You couldn't live for more than 3 seconds, most of the heroes were straight from Dota 2 with a different name and super charged, like Pudge with his hook doing 400 pure damage and his devour increasing his size...

It was awful, and from what I hear, has barely changed except they made all their 'heroes' free. I'd have to say the main thing I hated about that game was their art style, but not because of its design, but because everything just blurred together. It was hard to tell where I was in a fight, or where anyone was.

League, however, has changed from being a Dota clone over the years and has its own unique characters, but originally it was just like HoN. The map, denying creeps, the characters... Straight rip offs from Dota, but they changed it, so its fine.
User avatar #182 to #181 - jamiemsm
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well actually it was not dota 2 clone just dota clone because it came out before dota 2.
but yea still a super crappy game
#183 to #182 - bluemagebrilly
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Well, I meant that~ It was just a slip to add '2' there.

Sorry ;-;
#117 to #3 - arandomanon
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I had fun with some DOTA 2 stuff but games are way too long for me so I didn't get into it too much. I had fun with juggernaut, the guy with the shield and the hammer and some others but I just hate there's no recall button. Probably it's a stupid reason not to like a game but that's the main reason why I like LoL better. Also, I think you can have more chances to overcome a bad game in LoL than in DOTA, where you basically lost gold to enemies, everything's more expensive, minions don't give as much gold and having 1 item more or less is much more significant.
That's why I've got to ask, how's DOTA more balanced than LoL?
Picture related, only thing I liked in DOTA 2 more than in LoL: the ******* servers work.
#180 to #117 - bluemagebrilly
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I have stated below what I find unbalanced about League, but Dota 2 is definitely more harsh than League is. The recall button, though, is one of the biggest annoyances I had with League. It made escaping way too easy. You can 'sort of' do that in Dota 2 with a Town Portal Scroll, but it can be interrupted and costs 135 gold. It's not something you can just spam every time you're in danger without wasting a lot of gold.

As for how I find Dota 2 more balanced than League, there is just way less 'I've got this so I win' and more skill based combat. No runes or masteries, everything has a counter and there are very few abilities that do the same thing, and you have access to every hero, depending on your game mode.

Not to mention everything has a 'base' damage, so you can't just stack 'ability power' or something. Attack damage, yes, but that requires you to attack them and doesn't influence your skills that much, excluding a few buffs.

I don't know about the gold problems you had though. Minions give a decent amount of gold (30-50 or so I believe), and you actually have far more chances to overcome a bad game in Dota. The items aren't really that expensive, and it just takes one slip up on the enemies side to give you an advantage back.

I've won games where we were 20+ kills down from the enemy but they lost two team fights so we pushed their barracks and won. It was great, and not something we could have done in League because of the barracks in that game respawning and the AP/AD differences. It's really just about how well you play and things like smoke ganking to catch someone out of position.

But to each their own, I'll always like dota 2 better now that I have played it for awhile. I could never go back to League for more than a day.
User avatar #186 to #180 - arandomanon
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Yeah well I'm not arguing over which game is better, I simply stated my experience and asked a question over something I wasn't really agree, but I see your point. Maybe I'll give a try to DOTA again but for now, I'll stick to league.
#188 to #186 - bluemagebrilly
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I was not stating which was better either, simply which I enjoy more and find more balanced, which is a personal preference in the long run.

Though, as for servers, the Dota servers are usually always up, but they can be crappy now and then. I've had... maybe two or three games end prematurely because the servers just stopped. Like, literally just stopped and kicked everyone out. Game didn't count as a win/lose, but it was still disappointing!
#189 to #188 - arandomanon
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That's nothing. EUW server in LoL is the purest piece of **** in the existance. The "attempting to reconnect" song is a must at least several times a month, sometimes there are months when nothing happens and there are months when the server goes bananas and **** **** up every week (last week the whole server went into a maintenence jorney that lasted all the day long). They say that the rest of the servers aren't like that tho but I refuse to pay to go to EUE or wherever else nor to make another account and buy all the champs and runes all over again (yes, that thing I really liked from DOTA, being able to play whatever you want without paying).

Just another question, both communities are more or less alike, right? League has one of the worst communities I've ever seen but I dunno about DOTA, the times I played people were ok and in about 10 games, I only had to deal with russians twice.
#191 to #189 - bluemagebrilly
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They're very similar, but I don't know if League's has changed or not. I've met nice people in Dota, though I'm usually rather polite in-game and don't really get on anyone's nerves, but I've also seen a lot of people that just yell at everyone or get annoyed and just throw themselves into the enemy team, then blame everyone else...   
   
It's more hit and miss in Dota 2 in terms of what kind of people you'll be paired with and.... Well, it's not the Russians you have to look out for anymore. I haven't seen many of them at all, but on the other hand Dota 2 has been invaded by 'Pervuian' players who go to a internet cafe and rush into the US servers.   
   
I've only met 2 Pervuain players that were actually good and not total jerks, but I've seen at least over 500, on both the enemy team and my own team. I don't really feel good about putting them down, since it makes me feel a little racist, but they're consistently bad, have awful pings and make sure you know about them, and yell at everyone else for doing bad, or they just straight up abandon.   
   
It is pretty silly.
They're very similar, but I don't know if League's has changed or not. I've met nice people in Dota, though I'm usually rather polite in-game and don't really get on anyone's nerves, but I've also seen a lot of people that just yell at everyone or get annoyed and just throw themselves into the enemy team, then blame everyone else...

It's more hit and miss in Dota 2 in terms of what kind of people you'll be paired with and.... Well, it's not the Russians you have to look out for anymore. I haven't seen many of them at all, but on the other hand Dota 2 has been invaded by 'Pervuian' players who go to a internet cafe and rush into the US servers.

I've only met 2 Pervuain players that were actually good and not total jerks, but I've seen at least over 500, on both the enemy team and my own team. I don't really feel good about putting them down, since it makes me feel a little racist, but they're consistently bad, have awful pings and make sure you know about them, and yell at everyone else for doing bad, or they just straight up abandon.

It is pretty silly.
#193 to #191 - arandomanon
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I understand, it happens sometimes the same with Frenchs in EUW except the percentages aren't so high. Maybe 2/3 of Frenchs are feeders, flamers and kids in general, but the remaining third is decent. I used to play rankeds with a French mate and we were real good, we've played so much together that we didn't need to communicate, we knew what the other was going to do. When EUW and EUE were together, the worst were the Russians and the Polish, they were even worse than Frenchs. So I supposed it was more or less the same in DOTA 2.

Thing is, at the times I play most of southamericans with ****** internet are sleeping so I don't have much problem with them. But when I play at 1-2 am, I start playing with them and instantly remember why do people hate them so much. I don't know how to explain this frustration either without sounding racist.
#102 to #3 - anon id: 3246f979
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> Dota 2
> balanced
trax a champ that can do nothing but auto and a really simple silence
then there is meepo you can control each character differently, go to all lanes and jungle you can only balance them to one player skill lvl, so no dota cant be balanced
#179 to #102 - bluemagebrilly
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Those characters /are/ balanced.

Drow you just have to get close, like the other two have already told you, and she's pretty weak at that point because she is squishy. Then Meepo has like... 500 counters. Like there is barely a hero that doesn't counter Meepo in some way.
User avatar #157 to #102 - rakaka
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for drow just get close to her. Her ult only goes into effect if youre 400 units away so melee heroes can dominate her especially early in the game when you can stop her farm
User avatar #119 to #102 - lokiwins
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Get AOE heroes like qop and es and meepo is a walking potato
User avatar #41 to #3 - meganinja
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I don't know how to say this without sounding incredibly cocky, but I'm kind of a 'high skill player' in that I can master things incredibly easy. I'm not some amazing player, but I'm a really fast learner is what I'm trying to say. I'm a good League player, and I've been playing for about 2 years now. I always play the most difficult champions because the easy ones are so simple I lose focus, but even playing the difficult champions, I feel like I could do more. Like, high risk high reward kind of ****.

Anyways, to the point, do you think Dota 2 is what I'm basically describing here? The two main things I've heard about Dota is that it's hard to play, and that they balance it by making everything OP. I'm kinda interested in trying it out.
#51 to #41 - Tazdingo
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It's harsher on you in many ways.   
   
The first thing you'll learn is that towers don't do **** for you. In LoL turrets will wreck anyone's **** for the first 5-7 minutes of the game due to it's high damage output and targeting, meaning you can pretty much farm without fear of dying - if you have even a hint of skill. In dota you can get tower dived at level 2 by your own laning opponents, no ganks needed, not only will the tower be of little help due to low damage, but it does not switch targets to heroes that attack you unless they're the nearest alive unit to it, meaning it'll mostly just target creeps.   
   
The next thing you'll learn is there's a magic immunity mechanic. You will then consider this overpowered and buy the item for it in the next game   
   
Then you'll learn is that there is magic that goes through magic immunity because **** you and your dreams.   
   
You'll soon find out the spell "Flash" returns in dota on some heroes with 4 times the range and a 4 second cooldown (not a typo).   
   
But you also have gap closers and initiates and stunlocks so that wont be a problem.   
   
You will spend numerous and numerous spells on what you'll find out are merely "illusions" of heroes, and it will take you quite a while to tell the difference, since you can micro control those like the real hero. Think if Wukong's copy lasted 1 minute and he could control it like the real thing - at least 20% of heroes can use these, and most of the time it's 3-4 copies and not one.   
   
You'll have to learn about the day/night cycle and how it affects your field of vision.   
   
You'll have to learn about terrain and how highground affects your vision and ranged attack.   
   
You'll have to learn how to deny your enemy xp through outright denying, pulling jungle camps or certain hero skills, to make sure you have a level advantage.   
   
But there's teleport scrolls and the wards last 7 minutes, so you've got that going for you. Have fun.
It's harsher on you in many ways.

The first thing you'll learn is that towers don't do **** for you. In LoL turrets will wreck anyone's **** for the first 5-7 minutes of the game due to it's high damage output and targeting, meaning you can pretty much farm without fear of dying - if you have even a hint of skill. In dota you can get tower dived at level 2 by your own laning opponents, no ganks needed, not only will the tower be of little help due to low damage, but it does not switch targets to heroes that attack you unless they're the nearest alive unit to it, meaning it'll mostly just target creeps.

The next thing you'll learn is there's a magic immunity mechanic. You will then consider this overpowered and buy the item for it in the next game

Then you'll learn is that there is magic that goes through magic immunity because **** you and your dreams.

You'll soon find out the spell "Flash" returns in dota on some heroes with 4 times the range and a 4 second cooldown (not a typo).

But you also have gap closers and initiates and stunlocks so that wont be a problem.

You will spend numerous and numerous spells on what you'll find out are merely "illusions" of heroes, and it will take you quite a while to tell the difference, since you can micro control those like the real hero. Think if Wukong's copy lasted 1 minute and he could control it like the real thing - at least 20% of heroes can use these, and most of the time it's 3-4 copies and not one.

You'll have to learn about the day/night cycle and how it affects your field of vision.

You'll have to learn about terrain and how highground affects your vision and ranged attack.

You'll have to learn how to deny your enemy xp through outright denying, pulling jungle camps or certain hero skills, to make sure you have a level advantage.

But there's teleport scrolls and the wards last 7 minutes, so you've got that going for you. Have fun.
#55 to #51 - bluemagebrilly
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Couldn't have explained it better myself, Taz. Also, I greatly enjoy that .gif, haha.
User avatar #54 to #51 - meganinja
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wow. Sounds awesome. Do the graphics suck or something? There's gotta be a catch.
User avatar #190 to #54 - justanotherblablab
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Very, very steep learning curve.
#64 to #54 - anon id: dcdda495
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the graphics are shown in that gif, and nah theyre pretty good
User avatar #63 to #54 - zzRedzz
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Nah, the game looks pretty good
#46 to #41 - bluemagebrilly
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They don't make everything op, so I don't really know what you've been hearing. There are definitely some things that are stronger than others, but everything has a counter.

Everything

But there are some 'high risk, high reward' characters that are rather fun to play, such as Invoker who has 10 spells, but he needs to level up to use them effectively, making his early game fairly weak.

Along with characters like Phoenix, who uses health to fuel some of his attacks, along with mana, but can turn into a giant ball of flame that burns everything around him, then explodes and revives him with full health/mana. The ball, however, can be destroyed by a number auto attacks, making it risky to use in the middle of a team.

Also the way to say what you wanted to say would be to claim you are a 'quick learner,' I think.

Anywho, if you're interested in trying it... then do it! They have a tutorial to figure out the system and all that, and it's pretty short. Just play a bot game or two after that and you can probably start playing if you're really a quick learner.

However, since you are coming from League, there are certain things you do need to look out for, such as the shop being different, denying, and that you lose money when you die. I believe most of this is explained in-game, but... It's definitely a more harsh game than League is.
User avatar #48 to #46 - meganinja
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When I said everything is OP, I meant that in League, it's almost impossible to solo an enemy team unless they're low, or you catch them in a really bad spot where they pretty much set themselves up for failure. I think what it is, is that League is so CC heavy that if you're 100/0, you can have all the damage in the world, and still get stunlocked and not be able to do **** until you die. There's only like 3 or 4 champions who can solo the enemy team, and even then 1) you have to be rediculously fed (obviously) 2) they have to be incredibly behind and 3) they have to have little to no crowd control.

So basically I've heard so many stories of soloing the enemy team in Dota, so it just seems like they've balanced it by making everything OP, is why I worded it that way.
#52 to #48 - bluemagebrilly
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I have had that, in the far past, happen to me in League several times. A Zed, I believe, was the last one I saw who just ran through our team super quickly, and before that it was a fed Caitlyn or whatever her name is. Couldn't even get in range to attack her.

However, in Dota, the CC is the same way. Most heroes can be locked down to the point that they can't do anything to stop from dying if they're alone. However most 'team soloing' heroes in Dota are built for that, but have many drawbacks.

Warlock is a fine example. He's normally known as an initiator/support as he has a spell that links enemy units together, up to 6 at max rank. If one target gets hit, the other 5 take 20% of that damage as HP removal. He then has a DoT heal/damage (heal on allies, damage on enemies), a very large AoE slow that increases over time, and his ult summons massive golems that hit for 75 at level 1 of his ult, have a 60% chance to deal 100 damage in an AoE, and deal 30 damage per second around their body.

His kit can potentially wipe a team out in seconds. Drop your ult, use the 'link' ability, toss the slow out and let your golem attack them. Many heroes can't escape this combo, and that's all from one Warlock.

But he has huge drawbacks.

Warlock's golem can be killed quickly at mid game, and there's an item that kills it instantly, which gives the killer 100-200 gold. The actual hero is extremely squishy, and if he gets silenced, he can't do anything at all. Anyone with a stun could easily stop him from getting his combo off and keeping him from soloing the team.

But it's still possible, and I accept that, but there's so many counters to it that it rarely happens in an actual Dota match. Team fights are where the wipes come in, since a lot of abilities combo very well with each other. Their whole team getting stunned as Warlock's golem is hitting them, for instance, would be hard to counter.
User avatar #57 to #52 - meganinja
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Anybody can solo a team in league, but like I said, with most champs to do that you either have to catch them with low hp, or with them at some kind of focusing disadvantage (distracted with an objective, spaced apart, or for some reason not everybody's throwing their all at that one person for some reason or another). Only 3 or 4 champions can legitimately solo their team with them all at full hp, Nasus, AD Sion, Master Yi, and Katarina. Unless your entire team is 4 or more levels below the champion in question. Zed is an assassin, and his lack of AoE and general assassin kit makes him bad for teamfighting, although he can blow a single target up like nobody's business. Caitlyn is generally not a very good fed champion. She has great range, yeah, but that's about all she has going for her. Her abilities have low cast times and are easily avoided, she also doesn't have the AoE damage going for her, and she's easily killed. Once most of your team is around level 18 she won't be able to do that, as you'll be able to reach her before she kills you at the very least.
User avatar #11 to #3 - cancer
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Explain how this is balanced
www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-20pQ7aX1w
#12 to #11 - bluemagebrilly
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How is it not? The team could /very/ easily interrupt it. Ursa has always been the Roshan killer, and anyone who has played long enough to know this would know that doing Rosh at level 1 is a possibility, especially with SK.

Plus, doing Rosh at level 1 isn't even that much of a game changer. I've been against that and won several times.
User avatar #13 to #12 - cancer
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I'm now curious as to what you consider unbalanced about league.

As far as the two man Roshan what does it actually give you at that level?
#14 to #13 - bluemagebrilly
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A two man Rosh, as you saw in the video, gives around... 200 gold to their team, 300-400 to the killer I think, and the nearby heroes get a split amount of experience. Two heroes get very close to level 3, while one hero would go straight to level 5.

Just a small boost, really, nothing that game changing. Definitely makes it harder, but not unwinnable.

I consider a lot of things 'unbalanced' in League. The leveling system, the way their characters are built, runes, and lets not even go into the whole 'currency' thing that makes you buy characters.

The leveling system does gives you a unique way to customize your gameplay, but no one has to build it the same way and anyone with a level disadvantage of 2 or more has their game gimped more than the one higher level than them. It becomes easier at level 30, but you still have to 'customize' your level ups to suit the 'champion' you're going to play, and you may pick the wrong ones.

Runes are just awful. Plain awful. Game changing boosts that you can only by with currency. If you buy the wrong ones, then oh well for you! And you don't even have access to the strongest ones at an early level, but can still buy them. Meaning if you buy early level ones, you're practically wasting your money. (And no I don't mean real money)

Only way to get more is to play more games, which you lose or just have an awful time at because your character is weaker than someone who has the same character is stronger than you with the same items.

The characters, too, are horribly unbalanced, despite having very similar abilities. The whole ability power + power ratio is... dumb. It's better to just have base damage and that's it, maybe some percent damage like HP removal for the tanky characters. But there's always that 'flavor of the month' champ that gets nerfed 5 weeks after his/her release.

I could honestly go on, because there's just a lot of unbalanced things in league, but I'm out of space in this reply!
#176 to #14 - anon id: d26c13bf
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You don't play league do you? Cause if you did, you certainly don't now with that plain awful outdated information or just plain out wrong stuff. Runes ain't **** when you're outskilled. Heck, you're probably a troll, good bait man.
#178 to #176 - bluemagebrilly
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I don't anymore, but I know for a fact that runes are very important. The fact that you say otherwise just makes it seem like you don't play League enough. Probably not even level 30.
I don't anymore, but I know for a fact that runes are very important. The fact that you say otherwise just makes it seem like you don't play League enough. Probably not even level 30.
#104 to #14 - anon id: 3246f979
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you don't understand the word unbalanced
#177 to #104 - bluemagebrilly
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I do.
User avatar #42 to #14 - meganinja
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Most of your qualms eliminated by the matchmaking system, who doesn't match you with players of different level first of all. That, and games before level 30 don't matter anyways besides as training for ranked.
#45 to #42 - bluemagebrilly
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Doesn't match you with players of different level? Perhaps not anymore, but when I was playing on my way to level 30, everyone was either 2 levels below or above me.

'Ranked' barely matters in terms of gameplay too, which is still decided by the match making. You get the wrong runes, or the wrong masteries, and you're boned. Plus ranking in general is pretty... dumb. Only the highest ranks even matter, and the only way to get there is to play 24/7 or you go down a rank.
User avatar #47 to #45 - meganinja
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You can get placed with players a level or two up or down, but generally only if there's not many people searching for a match your level.

I don't know what you mean by wrong runes or masteries though. 1) they aren't very important, the boosts are pretty much insignificant and are just for that tiny edge you'll occasionally need. 2) I don't know what you think they are, but you can have more than 1 set of runes or masteries. There isn't some fear of picking the wrong ones unless you're a horrible player who can't build anything worth ****. There is a reasonable fear of picking attack damage runes and not switching them to ability power if you're playing a mage, but all that **** is user error.
#49 to #47 - bluemagebrilly
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I apologize for my rudeness, but... The fact that you say runes and masteries aren't that important probably means you haven't played very long. If you fight against someone and you have the wrong runes, or no runes, equipped and they have the 'right' ones... You lose.

That makes it important.

At the very least, when I played, runes and masteries were game changers and my friend, who played more consistently than me and didn't mind spending money on the game, was bothered by my lack of runes, since I didn't have very strong ones.

Not to mention if they weren't important, then they wouldn't be in the game period, or have a 'do this and this for the best masteries' in all of their guides and what not.

Skill is still a factor, of course, but half of League's game is building your stats up as quickly as possible, rather than being more skillful. Even a 'high skill' player will have a hard time reacting to someone just walking up and two shotting them because they don't have their 'defensive runes.'

That... is unbalanced. Because it isn't about skill, or anything that took place in the actual game. Just something that was predetermined beforehand.
User avatar #53 to #49 - meganinja
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No, they aren't very important. If your opponent starts the game with the exact same champion and you go in and fight at level 1 with you not having anything equipped, well, you'll lose. Because it's level 1. But you're not going to be against the same champion first of all. And once you start getting items, you won't notice the difference for not having runes. 17 AP at level 18 or something is incredibly small. 10 percent attack speed is next to meaningless, being worth only about 370 gold (a dagger gives 12 percent attack speed and is 400 gold, very quick estimation don't do the math for me because 370 will be wrong). I mean yes, it technically is a boost, but it doesn't amount to much unless you're in a deadlock with your lane opponent. If you're losing lane, you can turtle, cs harder, or call in jungle help. If those fail, you can always outplay your opponent in a fight, making their advantage worthless. You don't automatically lose, and League doesn't actually require no skill. A good analagy would be walking into lane and dying right at the start. It's a set back, but not lethal if you play your cards right.

Also masteries are both free, and offer incredibly low variability. It's hard to **** up on those in the first place. And for runes, I mainly only run 2 runepages that I've made so generic that one of them will work on anybody. I'm ranked in Silver, which is better than half the ranked players. I'm not a pro or anything, but I at least know what I'm talking about.
#56 to #53 - bluemagebrilly
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I apologize, again for my rudeness because the game may have changed since I have played it, in fact I know it has in terms of items and what not. I do want to clarify I never said it takes no skill to play League, I simply said that building your stats up as quickly as you can takes up most of the gameplay, rather than actual 'skillful' play, at least for certain characters.

However, I do wish to say that most of my information on Runes and Masteries taking effect comes from not only my own experience, but from the mouth of my cousin who reguarly gets up to Diamond/Platnium ranking and states that they make a large difference. He does, however, have a page for /everyone/ he plays. Well, every type.

Like if he's playing a 'Tanky DPS' he has a page for that.

Or a mage. He has a page for that.

But if those didn't exist, then it'd be based more on the item builds and skillful play, especially early game. The fact that I have lived through a fight and obtained a Penta because of having +health from my rune pages as Mordeikai, or however you spell that, makes them a pretty heavy game changer, since it was only because of that health that I survived.

But if I got the wrong ones, and didn't get those +health runes, I would have died, and we would have lost.

Though that was a long time ago, a year or two at least.
User avatar #60 to #56 - meganinja
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honestly it matters more to diamand/platinum players because around that point the game functions more like a well oiled machine than a fight. In lower levels, your opponent is much more likely to make simple mistakes that you can take advantage of, so in a way, I'd say skill matters even more. Yes, in Diamond and Platinum, it does matter a lot. But if you're up there, you'd know how to do it correctly, and you'd have the IP to buy whatever runes you needed.

And I misunderstood one of your earlier points. Yeah, the early game is pretty much only about farming. Somebody else said that in Dota turrets don't do ****, and in League they do, which I suppose is what makes the difference. In League you have to farm the first ten or fifteen minutes of the game. You can't dive them really unless you're fairly far ahead, and even then you shouldn't because you shouldn't be taking risks if you're ahead in the first place. Once you're sufficiently farmed up, you head to other lanes to help them out, teamfights ensue, yadda yadda yadda, defeat or victory.
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Well even if you "have to farm the first 10 min.", it is entirely possible to kill and get feed through intelligent trades and plays... Because the towers do damage and focus the killing in lane shifts to trading blow while farming and then getting the kill when possible.
User avatar #174 to #170 - meganinja
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Well I didn't say it's impossible. It's hard to do though, and not every champion is meant for trading under tower. Riven, Rumble, and Vlad are my favorite 3 for trading under the enemy tower. I think harassing the enemy under their own tower is fantastic, because you're massively denying farm. You can push the wave as much as you please, so you're probably csing them 3 to 1, and you're drawing jungler attention. Now normally this is a bad thing, but if you're so far ahead sometimes you want the jungler to gank so 1) you can get a double kill and 2) to take pressure off other lanes.

I'm just saying you have to be sensible about it.
User avatar #197 to #11 - jewbob
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I play League a **** load, the closest comparison I can make is that Lee Sin regularly kills the enemy jungler at level 2 and all it takes is pre-school level thinking. Start Q, take red/blue depending on what they'll do (easy estimate), take E, roll up while they're almost dead taking the buff, and blow them the **** up before they can see what just happened. Nobody can really stop it, MOBAs will always have little gimmicks like this. Sorry for the late reply.
#141 to #11 - anon id: 16295337
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Well firstly roshan is harder to take anymore and secondly if the enemy team sees them do that it's a free double kill. Also it takes a rather long time to get to lane afterwards.
#26 - donmakemehlaf
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mfw Lamb of god is mentioned
#23 - thechosentroll
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People are arguing over Defense of The Russians 2 and the League of Extraordinary Cunts and I'm just sitting here, playing SMITE.
#134 to #23 - sinery
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HoN master race.
HoN master race.
User avatar #142 to #134 - thechosentroll
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Ah yes, HoN - the bottom of the MOBA/DoTA-like barrel. I forget it still exists sometimes.
#149 to #142 - sinery
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The worst people we have to deal with are the Swedish.   
EU, **** yeah.
The worst people we have to deal with are the Swedish.
EU, **** yeah.
User avatar #150 to #149 - thechosentroll
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Why, they keep speaking in arabian?
User avatar #151 to #150 - sinery
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Nah, it's just that their accents are slightly annoying.
User avatar #32 to #23 - LOLHunter
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agreed sir
User avatar #59 to #23 - rhiaanor
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last time I played smite i got called a hippie

10/10
User avatar #73 to #23 - cozer
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"Defence of the russians" I play a ton of dota and can confirm that this is true. Smite is hella fun though, whenever me and my friend get stomped in dota we go and play some smite, we usually do bad there as well and then just go to be depressed.
User avatar #86 to #23 - Leveling
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My fellow god, I feel you.
In game name for Smite is Leveled, by the way.
I feel it's so much more engaging and exciting for me, in my opinion.
#93 to #23 - kevintothemax
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User avatar #118 to #23 - totalynotxewi
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Smite is fine and all but I get so bored with it. It doesn't have the depth that dota has accumalated over the years.
User avatar #111 to #23 - whiplasher
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I like Smite, it's fun. I play it from time to time, but I enjoy Dota 2 more.
User avatar #115 to #23 - northleech
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I might enjoy Smite a bit more if it wasn't made by High Rez which is a company i despite with all my being.
User avatar #205 to #115 - Johnsfer
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Tribes?
User avatar #206 to #205 - northleech
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I like Tribes, and then they decided to just say "Naw, **** Tribes, we aint updating that **** anymore". **** Hi Rez
#90 - easternigguh
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The question is: Why would you play a MOBA in the first place?
User avatar #100 to #90 - depends
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When you're in too deep you're in too deep.
User avatar #126 to #90 - crobog
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Maybe because - get this! - maybe, it's because different people like different things and you shouldn't give a **** about what kind of video games other people play!
#145 to #90 - anon id: 16295337
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Fun.
User avatar #109 to #90 - justanotherblablab
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I prefer the term ASSFAGGOTS. Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides
#112 to #109 - easternigguh
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Jesus thats a good one
Jesus thats a good one
#24 - Jabberwocky
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"Walk With Me in Hell" is an excellent song. I know that metal isn't for everyone, but I'd recommend checking it out.

Pic unrelated
User avatar #25 to #24 - roflbacon
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Eh "Descending" is better. "Walk with me in hell" is kinda mainstream
User avatar #114 to #25 - haydentheviking
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dont understand what being mainstream has to do with it...its a good song_
User avatar #184 to #114 - roflbacon
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It doesn't change anything to someone who's new to the band but it gets real ****** old fast. I ain't a hippy but I meant that it's overused to represent the band.
User avatar #187 to #184 - haydentheviking
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I get ya
User avatar #27 to #25 - Jabberwocky
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"Descending" is certainly more left-field. I enjoy both.
User avatar #44 to #24 - cmndrfatty [OP]
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Laid to Rest is best for me
#36 - spleed
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DotA came much earlier than LoL.

Sooo... DotA's the SSB.
#37 to #36 - anon id: 6373fd93
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***** if you really wanna take that route, we can talk about wc3....
#38 to #37 - spleed
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It's in terms of MOBAs.
User avatar #72 to #38 - alexthesiro
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no
#91 to #36 - unholytiming
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Just a note here: LoL came way before DoTA >>2<<, and DoTA 2 is just a graphical remake (with some tweaks and buffs here and there, not sure if they really make new heroes and such) of DoTA, but all other MOBA's, LoL SMITE HoN I know there is another but can't remember it, are just based of the same idea as the original WC3 map shortened to DoTA.
User avatar #123 to #36 - chaosascendingx
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League of legends was the spiritual successor to DoTa
Then dota wanted in on the action adn remade dota 2
So they are both in the same boat really
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remade
#89 - kaboomz
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guys   
relax   
guys listen   
guys   
both games are the same ****   
they both have the same camera style, point and click starcraft/warcraft-like faggotry and only 6-10 players per match controlling 1 character each   
stop discussing wich one has the bigger penis   
you both have vaginas
guys
relax
guys listen
guys
both games are the same ****
they both have the same camera style, point and click starcraft/warcraft-like faggotry and only 6-10 players per match controlling 1 character each
stop discussing wich one has the bigger penis
you both have vaginas
#146 to #89 - Enternal
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that aint b8 m8
#33 - dawnofelements
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I prefer league. Why? I'm glad you asked, because I spent over $1,000 on it, I think. But that's besides the point. I dislike Dota because the community is more toxic, (which is ironic) and because of how non-team oriented the matches can get. I.g. Phantom Assassin gets fed a little and the game is over and she can 1v5. Sure, Dota has a higher skill cap, but what's the point if, as I said, a single character gets fed and can snowball to an almost retarded degree. Bounty Hunter, Weaver, Anti-Mage, PA, that weird guy who's name I forget who throws dust on the ground. RICKI! They are just a few examples of heroes in Dota that if they get just a little going the game is over.
Even my own experience, I played Lone Druid to **** for a while, I could go 1v5 if I got fed and not even be in the fight, just let my bear **** everyone over.

User avatar #75 to #33 - helion
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go get some ******* gems and wards and lockdown bounty riki and weaver at the start of the game
stun anti-mage or get something to stun him with
same goes for PA plus she has **** health so just 2v1 her whenever you can
#143 to #33 - timelimit
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This isn't an issue because while carries are indeed stronger, disables are also much stronger. Just pick Vengeful Spirit or Sven or something, jesus christ it's not that difficult.
#70 to #33 - avocadomessiah
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>$1000 spent on LoL
Why spend $1000 on champions and skins when you can spend 100 or less on item sets for heroes you already have?

btw still waiting for built-in download and replay system for LoL
btw still waiting for LoL ability draft
btw still waiting for destructible trees
btw still waiting for "cheat lobbies"
btw still waiting for increase in skill cap
btw still waiting for $10 million dollar prize pool for your "championship"
Custom HUDs? Announcers? Couriers?

Anyway, just gonna reiterate what the guys below me said:
Don't feed the carries. Besides, a lot of those carries you listed can fall off depending on how much their opposing team catches up with gold/experience. Anti-Mage is hard to get farm with if you don't have a proper support, and without proper support, you're ****** and it's gg. Even if you manage to jungle a good bunch later in the game and snag a few goodies, the enemy team is going to get their farm too and shut you down, maybe even constantly. Same thing with Bounty Hunter, Riki, and Weaver. If you don't get **** for gold, you ain't gonna do **** for damage. Riki on the other hand can easily catch up, unless you carry some dust, gem, or those sentry wards placed. Phantom Assassin? Not a problem, throw a stun on her and she's dinner. She got BKB? If you got carries, just right click. No right-click carries? You and your team's fault for not picking responsibly.

TL;DR Don't feed the carries, it goes for both games.
#95 to #70 - unholytiming
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Why wait for a built-in replay system for LoL when there is one working perfectly fine already that Riot didn't make? And what do you mean "ability draft", I genuinely don't know. Don't know what you mean with "cheat lobbies" either. Custom HUDs exist, custom announcers are just gay as ******* **** and annoying.

I've played pretty much every MOBA, and by far HoN is master race in terms of skill needed, while DoTA 2 is just as easy to pick up and play as LoL, SMITE has the best community, while the LoL community can go suck a dick in a tirefire. Best out of game depth goes to LoL because that's the only one that has it, i.e masteries and runes, while none other that I know of has one, or a really unbalanced one.
User avatar #195 to #95 - avocadomessiah
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Ability draft is when you are given a random hero and you choose 3 normal abilities and one ultimate.

A cheat lobby is where you get cheats like -gold 999999 or -lvlup 25 and you just **** around. You can also spawn extra units and buildings.
#122 to #95 - anon id: 47d302a6
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The custom HUDs and the replay system are not in the game. They are a third-party mod, that Riot somewhat approves of. While in Dota, that is already in the game.
You should not count on your community to finish making the game.
#194 to #122 - unholytiming
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Why fix something that already works then? If Riot wanted to, they would do it. They're just waiting for the right time.
#35 to #33 - spleed
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It's called strategy.

You're supposed to coordinate and kill them before they snowball out of control.

And the whole "your community is more toxic" argument really is subjective.
User avatar #68 to #33 - citruslord
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While there are a few hyper carries in DOTA, most are easy to shut down if you aim to do so.
When I played LOL, Vayne, Akali, Jax, and Jayce didn't even need gold to carry. Vayne got a dagger and it was GG.
And I honestly think the LoL community is far more toxic. DOTA has it's Russian problem, but LoL has gotten so focused on competitiveness and making money it ruined it for me.
In the end, both have balance issues, both have terrible people in the community, but LoL is more accessible skill-wise, and Dota price wise. I have full sets for my 5 fave characters, and only spent 5 dollars on it because of the community shop. I can't get a single skin for that much on LoL
User avatar #82 to #68 - vohcaz
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>Vayne, Akali, Jax, and Jayce didn't even need gold to carry. Vayne got a dagger and it was GG.

what? I don't know when you played, but in the last 3 years, that has not been the case. The champions you named have 0-1 CC spells, and their best way of carrying is to deal damage. Without items their damage suffers a lot, since they all have amazing scaling.
User avatar #136 to #68 - KIKORBV
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While I agree you you in the comunity part (lol comunity is so toxic I'm used to mute at least one guy each game), I must disagree with you saying that Lol is focused in getting money from players. Riot is so focused in the competitive scene that it is actually losing money out of it. The good point of the competitive level of Lol is that it creates new users every day which gives them the money to pay their bills
User avatar #185 to #136 - citruslord
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I was mostly tired of them continually releasing new champ after new champ, charging more and more money for them, without balancing the existing ones hardly at all.
And there is no way they are losing money with their playerbase.
User avatar #2 - xspencerxxx
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ps all stars aint that bad, its not as good as smash, but its a nice change
#4 to #2 - bluemagebrilly
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I don't like it simply because the characters are balanced in what they can do. I've literally won a game by spamming a 'Punch' attack which gave me like 1/8th of my 'special' bar per hit. If I hit someone 8 times, I'd level it up, and at 24 hits I had a level 3 special.

Which kills everyone on the screen.

Despite that, I still lost to Kratos who was able to get 7 kills with one level 3 special, after using it /once./

The game would be a lot better if the characters were at least somewhat balanced, and if the specials actually took some skill to use. Most of them are just 'press the button to kill someone or everyone.'
User avatar #6 to #4 - xspencerxxx
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to be fair, they made a massive patch balancing the game lots more
#7 to #6 - bluemagebrilly
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Did they? Was that super recent, cause I played it like a month or two ago when that happened.
User avatar #8 to #7 - xspencerxxx
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it was most likely about 2 weeks ago
#9 to #8 - bluemagebrilly
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I haven't played it since then, but if they've really balanced it then I might try it again.
I haven't played it since then, but if they've really balanced it then I might try it again.
User avatar #10 to #9 - xspencerxxx
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like i said, its not as good as smash but its good
#5 to #4 - bluemagebrilly
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Are not balanced* I meant. I forgot the not, because I suck at typing.