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User avatar #8 - raigen (03/19/2013) [-]
I honestly never saw how useful it is... am I doing it wrong? since I was building it on draven as my attack speed item, but i'm better off with Phantom dancer for crit and movement.
#21 to #8 - kez (03/19/2013) [-]
Post upcoming nerf:

Say the enemy has 2,000 hp. The weapons 5% on an enemy at full hp would grant 100 extra damage, plus 25 AD from the wep itself.

The stats of the BORTK are 25-125 AD (125 when they are full hp) With + 40% Attack speed , 15% lifesteal and a 15% max hp nuke active with a 300 heal.

A BT costs the same and gives 75-100 AD & 12-18% lifesteal.

Completely ignoring the 40% attackspeed and the damage burst and heal active on the BORTK

BOTRK does more damage than a BT if the enemy has 1500 current HP. And for the BORTK to do more AVERAGE damage than a BT the enemy would need 3000 hp. Which most tanks would have or exceed.

And thats not including the 40% attack speed or burst damage and heal active.

Its bassically a BT with a nuke & heal and 40% AS for the same price.
#58 to #21 - killerofcows ONLINE (03/20/2013) [-]
did you just say tanks have 3000hp + and BT have 75-100 ad ? o.O

unless the tanks are feed, they would not have that amount of health before the adc have a IE

and BT is superior in adding damage to crits than BORTK
#38 to #21 - jbkubel (03/19/2013) [-]
Great point! But you forget one crucial thing. Alot of AD based champions has AD ratios on their spells. On these ratioes, the basic attack makes no difference. In other words, it is a very situational item. Great for champions based off of basic attacks (Jax, Fiora, Master Yi, Tristana etc.)
For champions such as Lee Sin, Talon, Zed, Caitlynn, Pantheon etc. Bloodthirsters would do you much better off.
#36 to #21 - xxxsonic fanxxx (03/19/2013) [-]
yes, FOR THE FIRST hit, also the bonus dmg doesn't apply heal so its +15 lifesteal for the 25 dmg, on bt its 12-18% from the 70-100, aka bt is by far superior. also bt gives dmg to ad scaling skills a lot more than bork, just stfu when you don't know the purpose of the item.
#25 to #21 - funnyjunkyeahyeah ONLINE (03/19/2013) [-]
Ah, but you're not really factoring in the huge burst damage done at the beginning of fights by all the everyone's abilities being thrown out, particularly ults being used. This has very significant impact, and reduces the effectiveness of botrk in all situations, but teamfights especially.

Also, you're calculating the on hit effect as if the damage it grants is effectively equal to AD, when it really isn't. BT becomes a lot more valuable in this comparison when you factor in that WAY more skills scale with AD than those that scale with attack speed.
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