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User avatar #1 - iflirtwithanyone [OP](08/27/2015) [+] (29 replies)
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I'm back bitches!
Well, I never left, but I'm back to the daily series. I lost the mention list with a reformat, so if you want a mention for the daily posts, let me know here. Alternatively, subscribe to the channel, everything will be posted there. Multiple things each day usually. Or subscribe to me, but if you do, don't bitch about all the **** I post.

Current daily lineup:
Misogyny Monday
Tumblr Tuesday less feminist related, more random tumblr related.
Weeaboo Wednesday
Tard Thursday
Fat Shaming Friday
Social Media Saturdays
Sacrilege Sunday

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#35 - dedze ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
"I will leap over to them and hold them down while I educate them"
#137 to #35 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
Is that cartoon wearing a fedora?
#153 to #137 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
That's Yahtzee wearing a fedora, you pleb.
#9 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
"Why not go up to smokers and scream about cancer to them??"

.....we do. Smokers are practically ostracised and there's more and more laws coming out dictating where they're allowed to smoke. It's not like there's a warning about heart disease on hamburgers and fat people aren't forced to stand outside to eat them.
#69 to #9 - sairen (08/27/2015) [-]
thats kinda a stupid comparison the reason there are laws on where you can and cannot smoke is because you smoking can injure and effect other people. me eating a hamburger is not gonna make everyone within 20 feet of my get heart disease but smoking can effect on others such as young children who arn't even fully developed.

thats not saying that hamburgers can't effect young children but that kinda up to the direction of the parent if they feed their kid mc donalds everyday then they are not a good parent im in no way justifying being obese im merely pointing out the flaws in your comparison.
#79 to #69 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Except the government say it's putting these laws in place to help people stop smoking, more people die every year from heart disease than from lung cancer.

So where are the laws "helping" fat people? Where's the warning label on the burger box with a picture of arteries full of fat to put people off eating it? Where's the laws forcing shops to hide the fries under the counter so children aren't enticed to buy them? Where's the tax hike on the nuggets to make them more expensive and so people less likely to buy them for their kids? Why isn't there a law saying you have to be over 18 to buy your milkshakes?
#173 to #79 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
I do just have to say smoking is a major cause of heart disease. Yes obesity absolutely is too. Smoking causes vasoconstriction of blood vessels that requires the heart muscle to contract harder to compensate thus leading to damage. It also causes plaque build up within the coronary arteries and can eventually lead to possible earlier mycardial infarction. Didn't wanna detract too much from what you said cuz I agree with your base, just wanted to point out the correlation.
#81 to #79 - sairen (08/27/2015) [-]
last i recalled children don't get money unless their parents give it to them so unless one of them is selling drugs to get money to be able to go and buy their own food then idk what your talking about..

and they have put in some things to help prevent people from getting obese the only thing i can recently think of is my old highschool no longer gives out fries since michele obama is doing that whole we need our kids to be healthier so were gonna change up the schools food distribution. so no more fries at my old highschool sooooo thats soemthing.




soo essentialy its still like i said the children can't get the food unless their parents give it to them once they are old enough to aquire it with their own money and means of transportation they are old enough to decide what they want and like i said someone eating a hamburger will not cause everyone within 20 feet of them to be effected.


obesity isn't as severe as cancer but im not saying obesity is fine. but you really cannot compare food to smoking considering they are exetreamly different and have vastly different results on people.
User avatar #103 to #81 - systemattic (08/27/2015) [-]
haha you're fat
#264 to #103 - sairen (08/30/2015) [-]
you are correct everyone has fat in them good work.
User avatar #265 to #264 - systemattic (08/30/2015) [-]
yup

but u be a mastodont
#159 to #69 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
affect*

affect = verb
effect = noun
User avatar #113 to #69 - quantumranger (08/28/2015) [-]
Obese people put more strain on all infrastructure, increasing taxes. Being fat does affect other people, and not in the direct disgust sense.
#123 to #113 - innocentbabies (08/28/2015) [-]
This is what I'm always thinking when this **** is brought up, it goes for the smokers and everyone else too. What you do doesn't just affect you until you stop seeking medical help when your decisions bite you in the ass.
If you go to a doctor there are three possibilities
A) You pay for everything out of pocket
B) Your insurance pays for everything, and manageably distributes the cost among everyone with your insurance group
C) You have no insurance and can't afford the bill, so it's all dumped onto the people who come in after you.
That last one is the problem with not having socialized healthcare, and the reason why medical care in the United States is so ridiculously expensive. As long as they can't turn people away for not having insurance and there are still people without insurance, medical care will remain astronomically expensive.
User avatar #121 to #9 - mkgt (08/28/2015) [-]
Hamburgers don't smell like tar.
#20 to #9 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
I still can't contain my amazement at prices for cigarettes in western countries. $5.20 for a pack, holy **** , at that rate I'd be spending more than $200 a month.

Thanks god they're cheaper where I live, $30 a month is a maximum of what I've spent on cigarettes
#53 to #20 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
The high prices are to further dissuade people from smoking. I know quite a few people who have quit or refuse to smoke because it's expensive as ****

Have fun with your cheaper cancer
User avatar #56 to #53 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
Implying, that government isn't just using the fact that they're addictive and hard to quit and raising the prices, fully knowing that a big chunk of smokers will just pay whatever for their cigarettes.

I'm not saying high prices aren't effective way of dissuading someone, but if government really cared that much, fast food wouldn't be so incredibly cheap as well and that's just one of the examples
User avatar #57 to #56 - abesimpson (08/27/2015) [-]
I never really thought about it that way and as a smoker im starting to get very pissed.
User avatar #58 to #57 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
I know right?

The worst thing is, you can't really do anything about it, at this point, smokers are depicted as some kind of egotistical suiciders who drag everyone down with them. That basically makes us voiceless.
User avatar #245 to #58 - ohkirby (08/28/2015) [-]
I really get sick of the "I didn't know you smoke, I can't believe a smart young girl like you would smoke" like damn, I'm not suicidal fam - just because I enjoy a dart like once a day doesn't mean I don't care about my life. I just enjoy smoking I used to smoke more when I was with my ex because bad influences op and really unless I'm hauling back a pack a day, I'm not too concerned with the fact that I do. We're all going to ******* die someday so I might as well enjoy the little things while I still can

Plus the fact that my Canadian Classics cost 12$/pack does definitely keep me in line in terms of spending and smoking if they were cheaper I probably would end up smoking more since I don't like spending much 12$ is about 1/4 of my gas tank
User avatar #247 to #245 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Yeah, we also don't have that attitude. Well, at least as long as you're not too young, like 13-14 or pregnant, no one will judge you if you smoke.
#248 to #247 - ohkirby (08/28/2015) [-]
I'm 19, so it's even legal to smoke where I live but still the judging is ridiculous - small town with a lot of rich snobs around here and I sometimes get the classic "you don't look like a smoker" like **** , not even sure what a smoker is supposed to look like. pic related
User avatar #249 to #248 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Well, 20-30 years ago, if a woman smoked in my country, she was legit considered a whore, so imagine living there
User avatar #250 to #249 - ohkirby (08/28/2015) [-]
Well I'm already considered a whore so I'd get over it

Naw I'm kidding, but **** that's pretty messed up lol
User avatar #251 to #250 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
There are still people like that, but they're the minority now and mostly considered as retards.
User avatar #252 to #251 - ohkirby (08/28/2015) [-]
Whereabouts are you from?
User avatar #253 to #252 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Georgia, a small country between Russia and Turkey.

Life here is as ****** as you could imagine with those two neighbours.
User avatar #254 to #253 - ohkirby (08/28/2015) [-]
Damn dood, sorry to hear that also I feel incredibly uneducated in terms of geography because I had no clue your country existed
User avatar #255 to #254 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Well, booze and cigarettes here are cheap as **** , you can drink from age 18 (or 14, if you go to ****** bars) and that's pretty much it. The landscapes are good, you can google that if you want.

Don't sweat it, we're pretty much irrelevant, until Russia decides to invade us and finish what it started
User avatar #70 to #56 - jimbobjim (08/27/2015) [-]
As someone in a country with National Health Care, i like to think of it as extra money to the health care pot, as they're likely going to be costing it more money in the long run.
User avatar #222 to #56 - daniboyi (08/28/2015) [-]
well... to be fair it is still only optional and in the end it is always the decision of the smoker, not the government or anybody else.
People are not forced to pay for expensive cigarettes, they choose to do that.
User avatar #131 to #53 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
I wrote a paper about how that is a ****** policy. It doesn't make it so that people wont smoke or will quit, as much as it makes people who smoke tighten their belts because they need a fag.
User avatar #229 to #131 - huginho (08/28/2015) [-]
I see it more as a preventive then a solution, because young people do not have that much money to spend every day/week whatever. It also made some people quit because they can not afford to waste that much money on a addiction, and would rather spend it on food/bills whatever. It also gives government waaaay more money, so that's cool, for them. Of course there is a huge amount of people that were already smokers and still are, but once that generation of people starts getting old and dying, i believe the newer generations will have a lower rate of smokers, then again it will probably be a very small difference, and will be a long term decrease. But that is what I think of course, no studies or scientific facts or anything, feel free to correct me.
User avatar #39 to #20 - loonquawl (08/27/2015) [-]
Where I grew up, my brand of smokes was about $3.50 a pack.
Moved to Canada, and they're like $16.
Made it a lot easier to stop smoking.
#33 to #20 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Here in England a pack of 20 is about £8-10 so about $14 / $15
User avatar #34 to #33 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
NO. STOP.

you're making a non-existent but still very real jew inside of me hurt a lot right now
#87 to #20 - toguro (08/27/2015) [-]
Yeah I know you told me all about it, ****** Georgians

I should really just stop by your profile rather than meeting you like this
#217 to #87 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
oh **** , man, I totally missed your comment!

I sure talk a lot about my country on fj, now that I think about it

you're always welcome
User avatar #22 to #20 - qwarthos (08/27/2015) [-]
Those are very low prices. Where I live a pack of Newport 100's (Very popular here) is $10
User avatar #23 to #22 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
Jesus ******* christ, why would one even start smoking there, it's just digging your own grave in both medical and economical sense...
User avatar #25 to #23 - qwarthos (08/27/2015) [-]
My part of the state is a weird mix of redneck farmers, city dwellers and Guatemalans. I don't know where I was going with that but it was probably somewhere.
#184 to #23 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
Over here in Eastern Canada we look at about $15 a pack and the prices are expected to rise again soon.
#256 to #20 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
In Norway its 13$ a pack. All the brands costs the same because they have so many taxes.
I guess we earn more but **** me, thats alot for a pack of smokes!
User avatar #240 to #20 - civilizedwasteland (08/28/2015) [-]
they tax the **** out of them here, they were actually more expensive a couple years ago now theyre like $3 here
#221 to #20 - gillieweedz ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Try living in Norway. $12 per 20-pack.
#220 to #20 - olesc (08/28/2015) [-]
Ive saved hundreds of dollars just because i roll my own cigarettes.
User avatar #215 to #20 - shenro (08/28/2015) [-]
i spend 0 a month on cigarettes, so i'd say i got an even better deal than you.
#208 to #20 - patchyjosh (08/28/2015) [-]
Jesus that's cheap. I would pay around $23 per pack where I live, but I buy pouches which are about $50 for 30 grams.
#206 to #20 - warioteam (08/28/2015) [-]
people around where i live decided to get big ass bags of pipe tobacco and buy their own filters and papers, which is cheaper than getting a small pack. what this does is effectively get even more bang for your buck, and now its cheaper to smoke here than ever
#205 to #20 - zimmeristheman (08/28/2015) [-]
10 US dollars a pack almost 300 bucks a month but I quit smoking a week ago.
User avatar #201 to #20 - shorea (08/28/2015) [-]
In Poland they are 12-15 PLN and that would be like $3-$4. I remember the times when they were 3-4PLN (like $1)
User avatar #202 to #201 - izaya ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
Well that's what you get for getting into EU, man
User avatar #203 to #202 - shorea (08/28/2015) [-]
yeah. Been to Montenegro 2 years ago and the prices where 1,5-2 euro. Then went back to Poland through Austria and bough a pack for 6 euro, feels bad man.
User avatar #141 to #20 - kewlkrayfish (08/28/2015) [-]
It fluctuates wildly. In the US I can tell you that a pack of camels in West Virginia cost me about 5.50, that same pack in PA cost me 6.40, and in New York I paid like $8 for it. So it really depends on the state tax and the cost of living for the area
User avatar #130 to #20 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
5.20 a pack? You must not live in upstate New York. Cigs go for 9-10 a pack if you're getting them at a store. It's always cheaper to buy them at the reservations but they're usually a ways away and frankly just depressing places to habit
User avatar #239 to #130 - fuzzysixx ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
A pack averages about $7 here, with cheaper brands being about $5. I have always rolled my own since I started smoking. Bugler and similar brand used to be about $1.60 for .75 ounces which is about an ounce, but since the taxes great;y increased it's about $3.70. I buy much better quality tobacco that is legally pipe cut for #2.35 (the exact same tobacco sells for $7 for 1.2 ounce packs) I don't mind the effort and I only average about 5 cigarettes per day, much less during summer because it is too hot.
User avatar #108 to #20 - icameheretotroll ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
they're like from 0.75 to 1.65 dollars where I live
#101 to #20 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Poverty habit
#93 to #20 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
come to australia. 20 dollars a pack for anything good. ******* gg no re for smokers in australia.
User avatar #52 to #20 - alltimetens (08/27/2015) [-]
Im from new york and a pack here is 11.50 to 12 dollars. I have never heard of cigarettes being 5 dollars.
#76 to #52 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Look at the Mayfairs, it's in England, that's £5.20, so around $8.
User avatar #47 to #20 - randomwanker (08/27/2015) [-]
I pay $6.70 with tax, ****** ludicrous man
#44 to #20 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
30 bucks a month?

Is that all? For the cheapest brand of smokes here, Rothman's blue softpack it's $18.40 NZD. Literally the cheapest, nastiest ball-shrinking-est smokes you can get.
User avatar #50 to #44 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
I calculated now, I regularly smoke 1.5 packs a day, usually marlboro red or lucky strikes, both are around $1-2, so around $35-40 a month, yeah
User avatar #78 to #50 - alarubra (08/27/2015) [-]
Holy **** . Marlboro Reds are usually about 7 dollars a pack where I live, as are Lucky Strikes, but almost nowhere even stocks those. The cheapest, nastiest smokes are 3-4 dollars, depending on where you go.
User avatar #32 to #20 - ChuckNorrisVsMRT (08/27/2015) [-]
$7-$12 a pack in Toronto depending on brand ofc.
User avatar #26 to #20 - Daeiros (08/27/2015) [-]
Those are pre tax prices, and it's not just sales tax, it's vice tax or whatever and they keep raising it every other year.
In my state, I end up actually paying about $7.20. I was only paying $4.80 like 5 years ago.
I heard it's like $10-12 a pack in New York
User avatar #27 to #26 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
Don't mean to be rude for asking, but how much do you make? Or more like this, is it worth it?

I know for fact, that if I had to pay more than $1.5 per pack I'd def quit
User avatar #28 to #27 - Daeiros (08/27/2015) [-]
about $300 a week, and I smoked about 3 packs a week at my worst, so that's made it 7.2% of my salary. I'm working on quitting.
User avatar #29 to #28 - izaya ONLINE (08/27/2015) [-]
Good for you, man, good luck on that
#129 to #9 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
It's really starting to piss me off at this point. I don't smoke, but damn do people really want to make smokers not be able to smoke in peace

First they made it so they cant smoke inside

Then they made it so they cant smoke within a certain perimeter of buildings

Then they made it so that you cant smoke in cars

******* hell, just ban cigarettes if it'd make you happy, but stop sidestepping the issue with annoying rules to make life hard on people
#135 to #129 - doucheonmandic ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
cigarettes bring profit
User avatar #136 to #135 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
Raise cigarette revenue with one hand, preach that everyone should quit with the other

Sounds about right
#214 to #129 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
They can't ban cigarettes, how would they take advantage of those with a nicotine addiction through taxing their cigarettes? Government is getting too much money from that little cash cow, so you can buy cigarettes, you just can't smoke them.
User avatar #223 to #214 - enlightednatzie (08/28/2015) [-]
Socialism.
User avatar #139 to #129 - kewlkrayfish (08/28/2015) [-]
Wait, I cant smoke in my car?
User avatar #142 to #139 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
I looked it up, and if you have underage kids in the car read: 18 and under while you are smoking, you will be arrested at least in NY, the state famous for criminalizing manspreading

It's dumb, especially being that my father smoked all the time while he drove, and with the way he did it I never caught a whiff.

I get where they are coming from but it's fundamentally kind of dumb
User avatar #143 to #142 - kewlkrayfish (08/28/2015) [-]
Thanks, Ill keep that in mind. I would have **** a loaf if I was legally not allowed to slowly poison myself alone in my own vehicle though
User avatar #144 to #143 - heilhotwheels (08/28/2015) [-]
Don't worry, they're phasing that in soon. Remember that smoking is sooper dooper evil, and you aren't smart enough to make your own decisions :^)
#181 to #9 - Kaalevv (08/28/2015) [-]
in mexico we use pictures
User avatar #204 to #181 - warioteam (08/28/2015) [-]
that wouldn't be a bad idea if it didnt mentally scar children
but then again, people who are parents shouldn't be smoking anyway so whatevs
#210 to #204 - assrocket (08/28/2015) [-]
"If it didn't mentally scar children"

You know they're not made of glass, right?
#232 to #181 - teranis (08/28/2015) [-]
We use the pictures here in Canada as well, some of which are fairly graphic, specifically the oral cancer one that leaves me wanting to throw up after I see it. look it up if you dare. It's not that terrible, but still pretty gross.

Pic is my favorite one, where we see smoking supposedly turns you into a zombie.
User avatar #242 to #232 - therealchafrador (08/28/2015) [-]
I like the Leroy (Jenkins) one.
#112 to #9 - icefall (08/28/2015) [-]
In Chile, anti smoking advertisement is even more aggresive.
Cigarretes are forced to show some gruesome images. All cigarretes have one of these images, although these are not the only ones.
#198 to #112 - dirtypizza (08/28/2015) [-]
Looks tasty
User avatar #17 to #9 - otisriedel (08/27/2015) [-]
thankfully, there's no thing as second-hand fat. (unless your parents are fat anf they feed you too damn much)
#18 to #17 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Yeah, but they're even banning vapourizers in public places, which is ******** because all vapes give off is water vapour, so I guess they're banning steam rooms and hot showers next.
#19 to #18 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
vapes are ******* horrible for you. and by the way, that's not water coming out. That's propylene glycol. No, I don't condone smoking regular cigs either. Ex smoker after 7 years, on the gum now, it's great.
User avatar #30 to #19 - theism (08/27/2015) [-]
Actually the vapor cloud is more from the vegetable glycerin, and propylene glycol is essentially safe and you would need a massive quantity to actually cause harm.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol
If you have a source for the danger of vaping then I'd love to see it.
#238 to #30 - bobducky (08/28/2015) [-]
Question: what constitutes as a massive amount?
User avatar #259 to #238 - theism (08/28/2015) [-]
The lethal point is 4 grams of pg for every liter of blood, which is quite a bit considering a weeks supply for most people consists of a few milliliters. But those guys are still probably fine because what they're hitting is probably a mostly vg solution to get that much vapor.
#260 to #259 - bobducky (08/28/2015) [-]
So it's kinda like alcohol, a lot all at once can be dangerous, but a lot over a long period of time is less so? I ask because I have an old vape pen and a coworker goes as far to say that vapes are worse than cigs because the "vapor fills the alveoli in the lungs giving a form of pneumonia". I didnt quite believe him but never searched for contrary evidence.
User avatar #261 to #260 - theism (08/28/2015) [-]
I see nothing to suggest that from a quick Google search . All I'm seeing is that the vapor can exacerbate an existing infection, so you should be fine. I'd advise you only to start is you want to quit smoking or were planning to start. Nicotine is still addictive and harmful.
#262 to #261 - bobducky (08/28/2015) [-]
I've been smoking tobacco for about a year now, found that my little Evod pen didn't really give enough to completely satisfy the cravings because the battery kept dying while I was at work. I'm glad you gave me some good info before I went and started saving for a stronger vape to get me off these damn cigs. I hate this addiction, I started for dumb reasons (a chick) and it's getting harder and harder to breathe.
User avatar #41 to #30 - inyourmind (08/27/2015) [-]
The only issue I've ever heard with them is that the Atomizer which if built or modified for a high power output can form things such as formaldehyde and/or put metal/heavy metal particles in to the vapor.
User avatar #49 to #41 - theism (08/27/2015) [-]
I'm curious if you have any information on this and if it involves specific types of atomizers?
User avatar #51 to #49 - inyourmind (08/27/2015) [-]
Its hard to find any major or good studies on e-cigs safety, as they are funded by supporters or opposers, to be honest but In general they focus around two things the atomizer and poor quality liquids. I should mention they still seem to unanimously agree that e-cigs are healthier then normal cigarettes but not necessarily healthy.

But things i can say is that any situation where you have metal heated to high temperatures small amounts of it will come off into a liquid along with the potential to react with the liquid to create harmful chemicals.
User avatar #213 to #19 - neokun (08/28/2015) [-]
Just because Propylene Glycol is lethal in large doses, doesn't mean that the eCigs are dangerous.

That's like saying Apples are dangerous because they have cyanide in them. (they really do btw)
User avatar #24 to #19 - qwarthos (08/27/2015) [-]
False information is ******* horrible for you. And by the way, it is scientifically to be 95% safer for you than cigarettes. Don't just listen to whatever lies the news tells you.
User avatar #48 to #24 - cousin (08/27/2015) [-]
And the only reason for the 5% difference is because they can't prove about the long term effects of the propane glycerol when it is inhaled. But they can guess. Their guess is that it is won't cause any problems.
#117 - tomtomvdp (08/28/2015) [-]
As a smoker , every pack I buy tells me how I am a **** up , and I'm ******* up my body. I always preach at other people how I hate smoking , and how I hate myself for doing it. Tell them to please never even try smoking because it's **** and it really ***** you up and the short and long term.
User avatar #15 - syntheticdoll (08/27/2015) [-]
To be fair i also seen people with Anorexia glorifying it and trying to convince people that it's good and it makes you "beautiful" but that's a heavily frowned upon minority, most anorexic people know that they have a mental illness and try to help each other go through it.
#4 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
actually, there are groups of "pro anorexia" people out there. (they're called "supermodels".)
#84 to #4 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Also so-called "Pro-ana" sites in general where people egg each other on. That ****** serious, a friend of mine died of anorexia a few years ago.
#110 to #84 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
I actually happened upon one of those sites once, they post some ****** up things
#148 to #110 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
Would you know the URL?
#43 to #4 - doktorandus (08/27/2015) [-]
On the one hand, I would argue it's more a health hazard of the occupation, because the fashion industry is ******* cutthroat so I'd say they're pressured into becoming as paperthin as they are. There's a certain 'mannequin' look to "properly" show off the clothes. And for the one model who protests, there's 25 to take her place. So it's a vicious cycle, really.

On the other, it's true that they keep the trend of showing clothes on inhumanly thin physiques fashion show after fashion show. And while I wouldn't say they're 'pro anorexia' in the sense that they advocate unhealthy thinness, they make it pretty ******* hard to argue otherwise considering they do encourage and maintain it.

In short, I'd say the models themselves are just caught up in the unfortunate choice of job and environment. It's the industry itself that's pro anorexia more than anything.
#55 to #43 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
Can I just point out that in less stupid circles the "unrealistic body ideals" sjws love to rag on are actually just anorexics and photoshop rather than people who are healthy?
It seems like a reasonable place to remind people that just because a sjw ragged on a thing doesn't mean there isn't a problem at the core
#61 to #55 - doktorandus (08/27/2015) [-]
I must admit, I'm a bit confused by a combination of your phrasing and my tiredness.

If you're saying that they do - in fact - perpetuate an unrealistic body ideal, then I wholeheartedly agree.

If you're saying they're not, I'd have to say that if you need anorexia and photoshop in order to sell your product in the best light, then it very much is an unrealistic body ideals because it requires photshop and anorexia. With one of them being possibly life threatening due to malnourishment.

Though body image issues will persist regardless of the fashion industry and its models, I feel it wouldn't hurt to show what clothes would look like on an average person. Be it long and lanky, or short and with a little bit of extra stuffing on the stomach, it'd give a clearer view. Though that'll never happen, because that wouldn't sell as well.

In the end it comes down to how you feel in your skin. Personally I've got a little bit of an issue which I'm not ashamed to admit, but in the same vein; models don't exact rub any salt in the wound either. But there's plenty of people who are far more impressionable than me who might look at such people and go "I wish I could look like that" without knowing what exactly goes into it in terms of touching up.
#92 - jouten (08/27/2015) [-]
Cancer sucks
#46 - anon (08/27/2015) [-]
ummm... but anorexics DO pat themselves on the back for reaching an unhealthy weight and all the things they haven't eaten today. Even worse than fatsos, they try to convince everyone to try it too. Ever googled 'pro ana' ?
User avatar #244 to #46 - implicationsofcrap (08/28/2015) [-]
But isn't pro ana a very frowned upon minority though? Even more than pro fat?
#72 to #46 - simplicitron (08/27/2015) [-]
That's because anorexia is a legit psychological disorder.
User avatar #176 to #72 - talldumbdork (08/28/2015) [-]
Certain forms of morbid obesity are as well. Severe obesity and anorexia are lumped together in many categories of psych diagnoses books. A disturbed body image often correlating with delusion and malnutrition. Both are often in denial of their unhealthy behavior. Often, there is correlation to mental trauma at younger age. Molestation, death of someone close, stuff like that. In nursing school anorexia nervosa, bulemia, and overeating disorders were discussed in detail. Clinical experience at psychiatric hospitals allowed experience with patients with both anorexia and binge eating, usually for severe depression and suicidal attempts.
#65 - demonfone (08/27/2015) [-]
**** you mean smokers don't get flak? We give ourselves more flak than anybody else!
"You are aware that smoking gives you cancer and can kill you, yes?"
Bitch, you're aware that the reason why I smoke is because I think my life is insignificant, yeah? When people go on and on about the health problems, I'm busy thinking about the psychological dependency and then immediately turn to self loathing.

When I see a commercial about ****** up fat people that are missing their throats and telling us how hard it is to live, I'll stop shaming fat people. Until then **** YOUR FATNESS YOU OBESE WORTHLESS **** !!!! Get on a treadmill you ******* whale.
#82 to #65 - demonfone (08/27/2015) [-]
Sorry... I'm a little grouchy because I really want a cigarette...
User avatar #98 to #82 - Shiny (08/27/2015) [-]
Bum one off a fat guy by being nice to him :^)
#5 - mrchris (08/27/2015) [-]
**mrchris used "*roll picture*"**
**mrchris rolled image**

www.forestonline.org/

"Forest, the voice and friend of smokers" I'm actually a member, it's message isn't pro smoking. It's " **** off and let us smoke in peace"
User avatar #6 to #5 - mrchris (08/27/2015) [-]
My ******* rolls today, jesus christ.
User avatar #3 - xskullgirlsx (08/27/2015) [-]
We reach a point in society where they try so hard to push negative attributes as positive that it's getting scary on how hard they're tricking themselves
User avatar #157 - agentdennis (08/28/2015) [-]
I smoke cigarettes and I tell everyone not to do it and/or stop while they're ahead. Addiction is real and impossible to understand on the other side.
User avatar #59 - chuca (08/27/2015) [-]
Except there are plenty of people who believe smoking isn't as bad as it really is, I've even heard people arguing it's not addictive. And the anorexia one is complete ********* , most people with it either are in denial that they are to begin with or don't think they're "that bad yet".
#138 to #59 - sneakytree (08/28/2015) [-]
In my case, I didn't even know I was anorexic. I thought I was being healthy.

What I was told back in high school during a PE class was exactly this: "If your thighs don't have a gap, you're obese."

So for close to a decade, I starved the crap out of myself to get that gap. Not because some model had it, not because I was in denial, none of those things.

I behaved like that until I found out it was an outright lie. I didn't know it was unhealthy to have that gap because I figured teachers wouldn't lie to me in school.

Boy was I wrong.
User avatar #219 - terafyde (08/28/2015) [-]
Well actually I know there's a lot of Pro-Anorexia pages and blogs, I remember the Blog Thinspiriation used to post pictures of Anorexic girls telling them that was the definition of skinny.
#188 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
my aunt has a ridiculously fat kid, age 10, and she can hardly fit through the door. DOCTORS told her she needs to lose weight, but my aunt wont hear any of it, no sirree
#154 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
but what about the anorexic positive people. they exist too. :/ there are literally whole tumblr pages dedicated to it.
User avatar #152 - nadam (08/28/2015) [-]
To be fair, "pro-ana" is very much a thing.
User avatar #126 - Rei ONLINE (08/28/2015) [-]
I hate smokers more than fat people for one reason. Even if they don't justify themselves I still have to put up with some the same risks they have from 2nd hand smoke.
#243 - anon (08/28/2015) [-]
I'm fat and I don't expect people to think it's beautiful, but it is really crushing when people think its okay to be an asshole about it.
#200 - crimsontyyde (08/28/2015) [-]
Meanwhile I'm just the cigar smoker and no one really bothers us about it. In my experience, anyway.
User avatar #236 to #200 - palmsspaghetti (08/28/2015) [-]
That's gross you sick **** . jk, I enjoy a good stogie every now and then as well.
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