The sad reality of last night's debate. .. >.> from what funnyjunk has shown me both "creationsts" and "evolutionsts" guy would be doing what the "creationist" guy is
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The sad reality of last night's debate

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#323 - anonymous (02/07/2014) [-]
Bill Nye's face last night
User avatar #357 to #323 - mephistesulfurion (02/11/2014) [-]
So you had to go as far as to associate Bill Nye with a fedora ****** ?
So basically what you're saying is, Everyone that doesn't believe in the Bible is an euphoric fedora ****** ?
I'm at a loss for words, honnestly.
#322 - jizzonmypants (02/07/2014) [-]
related ....
User avatar #319 - talkingmouth (02/07/2014) [-]
I love this trend so ******* much. I sat down all of my friends and we watched the entire thing and our day was focused around the Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham debate.
#318 - wagenmaster (02/07/2014) [-]
Why can atheists proudly proclaim their beliefs and not be bashed while religious people can not?
User avatar #326 to #318 - leglesslegolegolas (02/07/2014) [-]
Because atheist beliefs are centered around proven theories and facts.
#358 to #326 - kunterz (03/17/2014) [-]
is any fact or theory true? I think we all don't exist and that's a fact to me   THE 						*******					 BEES
is any fact or theory true? I think we all don't exist and that's a fact to me THE ******* BEES
User avatar #359 to #358 - leglesslegolegolas (03/17/2014) [-]
That's because you're a nutjob.
#315 - dickticklerluv (02/07/2014) [-]
Evolutionists fw Bill Nye was talking
Evolutionists fw Bill Nye was talking
User avatar #313 - lateday (02/07/2014) [-]
So.... When did atheists became the minority here?
#332 to #313 - unearthlike (02/07/2014) [-]
an atheist is just as moronic and bigoted as any organized closed minded way of thinking because that is just what it is.
#311 - anonymous (02/07/2014) [-]
While I agree that Ham didn't do a good job, I believe most people are bagging on him because of the lack of understanding they have regarding creationism and the Bible. I studied both the Bible and evolution heavily, and therefore, I can honestly say both men did very well with what they were handed. Likewise, both men messed up in some aspects of their arguments. Bill's argument about Noah was a very pitiful argument that any scholar could easily tear apart. Ken's unwillingness to admit he could be wrong/avoidance of some questions is what hurt him. It also has to be noted that Bill wasn't required to show proof of Evolution, while Ken Ham was required to, since the prompt was "Is creation a viable model in todays modern scientific era." That right there limited Ken and gave Bill much more freedom to attack and defend. There's much more to a debate that meets the eye.

TL;DR: Both men did pretty good, both men messed up a little, and overall Bill Nye probably did better.
User avatar #276 - arnolddusk (02/07/2014) [-]
******** . They've been rubbing it in the entire time. ******* idiots.
User avatar #293 to #276 - staticenhance (02/07/2014) [-]

#272 - spartyon (02/07/2014) [-]
MFW im catholic
User avatar #310 to #272 - akhar (02/07/2014) [-]
I second this. What's better than either Jesus or Science? Jesus AND Science!
#270 - twotwelve ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
For a short time some people thought it was "cool" to be an atheist, rejecting beliefs and being euphoric and such. But now, it's a trend to make fun of atheists as if they're all neck-beards with no better hobby.
Can't we just get past this stupid trend of making fun of people for the retarded outspoken few who create a bad name for their group? I mean there are stupid people in every group.
It makes me not want to admit I'm atheist ever on FJ (which I rarely do anyway) because I feel like I'll be attacked for being a neck-beard ****** . Being an atheist doesn't make me stupid, and being euphoric doesn't make me an atheist.
Stop hating me because I have class and you peasants can't pull of the fedora look.
User avatar #286 to #270 - telmarine (02/07/2014) [-]
>Can't we just get past this stupid trend of making fun of people for the retarded outspoken few who create a bad name for their group.
> 2014
>meme arrows

i agree, but this post states the opposite
User avatar #284 to #270 - myjeren (02/07/2014) [-]
There are three types of Atheist generalizations I've found. One is the hipster fedora neckbeard euphoric blah blah blah. The next is the casual/don't care at all. The third is the Hitchens Atheist who takes part in religious discussion, frivolous as one might depict it in our apologetic internet monarchy that takes part in such extreme measures to what some might say; an apathetic degree of religious, dialectic, and even abhor-prosletyzing interweb culture and societal structure.
User avatar #312 to #284 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
And then there are militant atheists, like me, who are fighting for certain principles such as "Separation of Church and State", that in some countries (read: mine) are completely trampled over
User avatar #329 to #312 - myjeren (02/07/2014) [-]
Realistically, that's a Hitchens atheist.
User avatar #330 to #329 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
Tbh, never heard of the term. Will look it up later
User avatar #266 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
It seems like we are reaching a turning point in our culture. It is no longer acceptable to believe in a higher power without getting the equivalent of slut shamed. Can't we just let people believe whatever the hell they want religious or not? It's not really altering your life so who gives a **** what bob down the street thinks?

(I am not coming to this conclusion based on the debate, I base it off of a growing trend over the past 3 or so years.)
User avatar #299 to #266 - goddamnwizard (02/07/2014) [-]
Because bob down the street can vote. Meaning he can contribute to the outlawing of gay marriage and other human rights simply because they go against his own beliefs. As well as the fact that his beliefs, when shared by enough people, may also interfere with the furthering of human knowledge. The idea of "Let's not ask questions because god said so" or any variation thereof, is ridiculous. Willful ignorance is intrinsically harmful. This being said, I know plenty of religious people who absolutely do not fit this demographic. So I think we shouldn't so much hate on religion, as hate on the idiotic minority who spread this ******** . You know, like the ones in relatively high government positions right now.
User avatar #300 to #299 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
Just...scroll down and read some of my other comments. I don't have much more to say.
User avatar #281 to #266 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
" It's not really altering your life so who gives a **** what bob down the street thinks"

Tell that to the gays who are not allowed to marry (or be in "a civil union", call it whatever the **** you may, I'm talking about the fact that the state should be the one who legally weds you) because "God said so".
That's a basic example of violation of human rights in my book, just because the Church wants to have its saying in the legal system.
User avatar #294 to #281 - telmarine (02/07/2014) [-]
its not religion as a whole its people using religion as an excuse to try and "protect" their children from being ridiculed for being different becuase they grew up in an age where homosexuality was a shameful thing

they don't want their kids to be different so they want to make everything a soft cornered politicly correct world

its ******
User avatar #296 to #294 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
Yeah, just like they tried to "protect" women from education some few hundred years ago
User avatar #302 to #296 - telmarine (02/07/2014) [-]
that was opression and in some cases protection, change has to happen slowly like a fish in a new fishtank

imagine being the only girl who was in school and smarter than most of the men in your town

User avatar #282 to #281 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
It's not the belief, it's the bad people who use it as an excuse.
#290 to #282 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
I have nothing against the belief itself (as long as it's not a completely ****** up belief, like Muslim fundamentalist/extremists)... as long as it's kept to each his own.

In my country, "belief" shoves its nose into every possible corner. For instance, go figure, our Church wanted the state to remove sewage lids (tops, whatever these things are called) that have something similar to our country's coat of arms because "people shot not be stepping on the holy cross!" (yeah, if you look closely, the falcon is holding a cross in its beak.

And yes. True ******* Story.
User avatar #297 to #290 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
Because god really give a **** (no pun intended) about sewage tops right?
User avatar #314 to #297 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
Just read my comment 289, I had to take a few moments to find the relevant links
User avatar #303 to #297 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
Well, it's THIS level of ******** that we have to put up with from the Orthodox Church.

Also, you might want to read/hear about their completely megalomaniac project, called "Catedrala Mantuirii Neamului" (just so you can google it, in rough translation it would be something close to "Cathedral of Nation's Redemption"... or similar; and guess out of who's money that ******* Taj Mahal is being built...)
#271 to #266 - implication (02/07/2014) [-]
Religion and "beliefs" are holding science and advancement down.

This is 2014, we are not mad brutes, we should question everything we believe before coming to a conclusion.

People are becoming enlightened and are realizing that religion is a scam.
User avatar #275 to #271 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
I believe in god, I live on a street in the middle of god damn nowhere. How am I holding science down. It's not the belief, it's the bad people who use it as an excuse.
#280 to #275 - implication (02/07/2014) [-]
If you don't have any evidence to back up your theories then they will remain theories and thus irrelevant.

If you really believe in a heaven or a god, then put your theories to the test, if you know what I mean. Otherwise your theories are in part with a global fallacy which is oppressing science, thus you are a part of the problem.
User avatar #291 to #280 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
Science doesn't need saved, it's ******* science. No force on earth can stop it. I simply believe in something grander that helped shape everything. And afterlife because it makes a bit of "sense". Also I take into consideration that everything on this planet is based off our way of thinking. Who is to say that there isn't something out there that we can't comprehend. Can't be proven, can't be disproved. That is why they call religions "faith". Now clearly we are not going to be changing each others minds, i'm fine with that. I believe one thing, you believe another. The world will still be spinning tomorrow....hopefully.
User avatar #301 to #291 - goddamnwizard (02/07/2014) [-]
You I like. You actually use your brain.
User avatar #305 to #301 - ninonybox (02/07/2014) [-]
Thanks, I enjoy thinking rationally.
#262 - swagbot (02/07/2014) [-]
The Bible is not supposed to be taken literally.

At it's core, it is a story about the fundamental struggle between Good and Evil in the Soul of Humankind. THAT'S. ALL!

Both Spirituality and Science are a tool to bring your understanding close inline with 'Truth', when they are being used correctly.

The closer you get to Truth, the more you appreciate, understand, and enjoy the breadth of the universe, and so the richer your existence becomes.

There is enough Mystery in the universe to satisfy any curious researcher... and there's enough Meaning in the universe to satisfy anyone looking for a purpose to their existence.

When misused, Spirituality and Science become tools to convince, deceive, cow, and ultimately control others... to disrupt their quest for Truth.

Don't act like retarded, feral sub-humans by contributing to this ********* and continuing on this nonexistent debate.
#317 to #262 - godleftmefordead (02/07/2014) [-]
are you trying to write like a gaylord?

Because you're doing fantastic
#353 to #317 - swagbot (02/08/2014) [-]

I'm being totally serious.

Please point out anything in that post that sounds gay... I think you might need to reread it...
#260 - mrmamric (02/07/2014) [-]
Bitch, shut the **** up. Front page has been littered with touchdown dances of you neckbearded ***** celebrating Bill Nye's domination in the debate for the past few days.
#244 - anonymous (02/07/2014) [-]
it's funny because its actually the opposite, hence all the fj posts
#239 - anonymous (02/07/2014) [-]
Atheists of FJ, as a serious question..

don't you ever get tired of whining about Christianity?

I feel like you talk about God more than actual religious people.
#278 to #239 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]
Some of us actually have legit reasons to hate, if not the religion, then the Church, as an institution.

For instance, in my country the Orthodox Church is up to so much ******** & niggotry, I can actually relate to Varg & the like burning them down.
Seriously, when the Church SUES people for not wanting to allow ANOTHER Church being built in the tiny open space between 2 blocks of flats (that could be made in a tiny park or children's playground), in a country where in almost every city or village churches outnumber schools & hospitals 3 to 1 (all the while subtly claiming that "nothing is more important than our faith in the Lord"...), in some cases even 5 to 1...
And where the Church is exempt from ALL taxes, including taxes on land ownership (that the Orthodox Church still has a ******* of, not to mention being involved in some real estate business in certain areas), yet they still ask for ridiculous amounts of money for religious services such as weddings, baptisms & funerals (which are IN FACT payed for BY THE STATE, just like their wages!), on how they preach about modesty & simpleness of the regular human being while they literally BATHE in luxury... (inb4 not respecting some basic principles of "Separation of Church & State")
...and to top all that, taking into consideration that most of the older priests were actually collaborators with our country's former Communist secret police ("Securitate") that basically were the 2nd ******* KGB here, since people obviously ignorantly confessed their deeds to them, so they basically had a "record" on almost everyone... and who now pose into persecuted poor beings, oppressed by the Communist regime...

...yeah, I'd like to see you maintain a calm view on this whole subject. And that's just a LITTLE depiction of how our great Orthodox Church is like.
Couple that with the fact that there are so many ********* that actually LISTEN to these dirty, rotten thieves & ******* called "priests"...
#289 to #278 - anonymous (02/07/2014) [-]
I won't argue, because i've never even heard of that before.

however, I do request a source.
#308 to #289 - tkfourtwoone ONLINE (02/07/2014) [-]

You might be interested of the parts from "Communist Period" downards...


THIS is one our biggest beefs with those ******* scumbags, who are, if possible, more corrupt than our politicians.

Just to give you a perspective (this is obviously a virtual image of the project), the building in the background is the Parliament Palace (formerly known as "People's House"... or something similar). Which is the 2nd biggest administrative building IN THE WORLD, after the Pentagon.
#264 to #239 - implication (02/07/2014) [-]
Religious people of FJ, I propose a question:   
Don't you ever get tired of losing debates and 						***********					 by calling everyone that has proven you wrong a fedora?   
I feel like you religious people have no other reason to be religious other than "morality", which in religion comes with the exception holy war.
Religious people of FJ, I propose a question:

Don't you ever get tired of losing debates and *********** by calling everyone that has proven you wrong a fedora?

I feel like you religious people have no other reason to be religious other than "morality", which in religion comes with the exception holy war.
#254 to #239 - xdeadpoolx (02/07/2014) [-]
I don't wine about ****

i just wish everyone would shut the **** up really
User avatar #240 to #239 - breastestvillainy **User deleted account** (02/07/2014) [-]
Bitches n ****** n hoes
User avatar #229 - atrumaliger (02/07/2014) [-]
That kinda hurt.
User avatar #218 - sovietsamurai (02/07/2014) [-]
I do not understand what hell is going on?
#242 to #218 - thorseph (02/07/2014) [-]
first guy talking is a creationist, second guy is bill nye, the basic gist of the joke is that the evolutionist listened to both sides while the creationist listened to what it thought was important...
#331 to #242 - sovietsamurai (02/07/2014) [-]
I see!   
thank you for explaining it    
I appreciate it, therefore, have this picture in return!
I see!

thank you for explaining it

I appreciate it, therefore, have this picture in return!
#217 - hollowmajinbuu (02/07/2014) [-]
This debate will always be impossible. Evolutionists will always say "Well then make God appear!"... and Creationist will always say .."It's God's will!"

I felt sorry for Bill, it was like he was trying to convince cavemen that fire was good....
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