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Stannis's face when he has less fans now. I'm nominating Stannis for my weekly Machiavellian hero of the week. I'll be trying to put up a gif or a person every

I'm nominating Stannis for my weekly Machiavellian hero of the week. I'll be trying to put up a gif or a person every week of someone i feel embodies my usernames namesake in terms of doing whatever it takes to succeed. So this is part 1.

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Tags: stannis the mann | Stannis Baratheo | king of the ande | protector of the | game of thrones

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#5 - machiavellianhumor [OP](06/08/2015) [-]

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Just to keep everyone safe there may or may not be spoilers for the show and books in the comments, it happens. but if you comment spoilers try to use the spoiler tag.

#4 - Sarampintolas (06/08/2015) [-]

The true fans will understand his choice and stay at his side

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#11 to #4 - anon (06/08/2015) [-]

Except they're ******** reasons.
Mellisandre's magic is blatantly explained to be just powders that she uses to convince people she knows magic.

He burned his daughter alive because some phony magician told him to.

#21 to #11 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

But, she pushed a shadow out of her vagina to kill Renly.

#31 to #11 - motorwaffle (06/08/2015) [-]

Maybe in the show, but in the books her POV segments blatantly saw her powers are very real.

#14 to #11 - Sarampintolas (06/08/2015) [-]

Shut up non-believer. You should join her for not beliving in our Lord of Light, R'hllor. Did Renly died falling down on a kitchen knife? Did not Robb and Joff died like Melisandre said they would if a sacrifece was made?

Stannis is our Azog Ahai and shall lead us all trough the darkness. For the night is dark and full of terrors

#6 to #4 - machiavellianhumor [OP](06/08/2015) [-]

still the mannis

#10 to #6 - Sarampintolas (06/08/2015) [-]

He sacrificed his own daughter to save us all. His courage knows no limits. He is the hero we dont deserve but we need.

Stannis the true Westeros King!

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#9 to #7 - anon (06/08/2015) [-]

May want to put that in a spoiler tag m8

#3 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

They made him into the dislikable boogieman so that eventually the strong womyn brienne, will kill him.

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#13 to #3 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

They don't really have to "make you" the dislikable boogieman if you burn your own daughter alive to power magic. That takes care of itself.

Really, he was actually a pretty good dude up until this last episode. Regardless, he's an awesome character. So much going on with him.

#15 to #13 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

That's what i was saying... Burning his daughter was completely irrational and stupid. And that's what made him into boggieman.

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#17 to #15 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

But, was it really irrational and stupid? The blood of kings actually can allow Melisandre to perform crazy magical shenanigans.

#22 to #17 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

At cost of being seeing as a mad lunatic infront of your soldiers ? and burning your blood. Producers don't like stannis, so i don't know what i expected anyways

#23 to #22 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

A lot of his soldiers, aside from the mercenaries, are devotees of the Lord of Light. they stopped the queen from attempting to prevent the sacrifice without even being ordered to do so.

The Producers don't like Stannis? Really? Then, why have they made him so sympathetic and awesome in this season and the last? Writers don't flesh out characters they hate. Tone down the butthurt and look at this rationally. Melisandre can literally perform some kind of ********* miracles. If your choices are to have hundreds of people die and the world end because you don't achieve your destiny, or sacrifice your daughter to have a chance at saving the world from calamity, it's not really much of a choice. Remember, Stannis has seen a prophetic vision of where he needs to be and what he's supposed to ultimately do, and whatever it is he knows he needs to get there by any means necessary. This squarely fits into that scheme.

#24 to #23 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

Amm... They actually said they don't like him...
First of all most of his soldiers and mercs... so not so many devoted fanatics.
Second, he probably ordered them before to stop them.

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#25 to #24 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

I did mention the mercenaries thing. Doesn't really refute any of my other points, anyway.

Link to them saying they don't like him?

#26 to #25 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

www.youtube.com/watch?v =mWQMqaFm5X0&feature= youtu.be &t=3m23s

Only found this one, where he says that stannis would be a terrible king. there was a whole thread on 4chan like two years ago so i can't say more since i dn't remember much. (if would suggest looking up on the internet).

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#27 to #26 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

Said he would make a terrible king, which is arguable. That doesn't even remotely imply a bias against the character.

#28 to #27 - steelcrasher ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

They hate Stannis because they make comments about the character that are factually wrong, and then change the character in the show to represent how they see him.

#29 to #28 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

They also work quite closely with Martin on the direction of the show, so it's not like things are happening which Martin is totally against.

Either way, his character's a ******** more interesting than before.

#1 - kanyesfishsticks (06/08/2015) [-]

Tywin Lannister was the utlimate Machiavellian ruler. I wish he was still around.

#20 to #1 - xaja (06/08/2015) [-]

Except for the fact that, ya know, the public now hates him.

#30 - jcjohnson (06/08/2015) [-]

#8 - horsehat (06/08/2015) [-]

Its not that I really like what he did, just I dont hate him for it. He had really no choice, they would eventually all just die. I think he is kinda cool

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#12 to #8 - anon (06/08/2015) [-]

Hint: Mellisandre can't actually do magic and burning Shireen alive didn't do anything.

#19 to #12 - schneidend (06/08/2015) [-]

What do you mean she can't do magic? She turned her unborn child into a shadow to assasinate Renly.

#16 to #12 - xaja (06/08/2015) [-]

That's not what the book says. Unless of course that's the twist at the end of Book 5 .

#2 - akulakhan ONLINE (06/08/2015) [-]

I was rooting for Stannis up until the last episode. I hope Davos will put a sword through his skull. And Mel's too, for that matter.

#32 - EdwardNigma

ONLINE (06/09/2015) [-]

SOME SPOILER **** .
Apparently this still happens in the book. Just hasn't happened yet.
But my problem is, in the current situation of Stannis and Shireen and all that, Stannis literally could not be the one to order his daughter burned. Shireen is at the Wall, so is Selyse and Melisandre.

I don't feel like writing a thousand words about why this makes no ******* sense and why I am so god damn pissed off about it. But the short version is, Selyse WOULD do this. Stannis would not. They made it very clear he wouldn't. But they still made him do it. And thats ******* stupid.