There seems to be some confusion in the comments as - #116779862 added by hydromatic at Last night's GoT episode summed up

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(05/13/2014)[-]

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There seems to be some confusion in the comments as to what "trial by combat" is.
I'll clarify here for people that wanna know, and then stick it.

In Westeros anyone who faces a trial can demand "trial by combat". A trial by combat can be fought by the accused themself, or they can choose a champion. The accuser will then choose a champion themselves, and there will be a fight.
If the accused's champion loses the accused is sentenced to death, there's no middle ground at that point. If he wins he goes free. Again, no questions asked. They believe that whoever the gods favor will win, so the outcome will be right no matter what.
Hope someone found this helpful!

#279 to #44 - neoexdeath

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(05/13/2014)[-]

If you'd actually read the FJ user agreement, you can challenge Admin to trial by combat to contest a ban. He gets to choose the weapons you both use though, used to be pistols, but ever since he started lifting, he's been going with warhammers and ****.

#255 to #44 - efdinthea

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(05/13/2014)[-]

so it makes sense that anyone sentenced to death in westros get at least one more shot? like wouldnt this be an option for any sane person all the time?

#268 to #255 - gerfox

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I'd imagine that if you are already sentenced to death by a jury, like the one Tyrion was facing, and their verdict is handed out - it is final. No backsies. The trial was in progress when Tyrion demanded it, and thus he was eligible for a trial by combat.

#396 to #268 - efdinthea

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(05/14/2014)[-]

oic that makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up

#280 to #268 - quiescat

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(05/13/2014)[-]

also while i cant find real proof outside of i could have sworn i read it in the books but you have to be high born or knighted; in say the case of bronn, to demand a trial, i am a little less sure about knights, other then i think its accepted policy to not dick around the guys in trained and equipped to stop people from killing you

#228 to #44 - PubLandlord

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(05/13/2014)[-]

so if you're a badass fighter you can do what you want?

#292 to #228 - tehlulzbringer

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(05/13/2014)[-]

no because the gods wouldn't favor you

#248 to #228 - anonymoose

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Trial by combat can only happen if there is no definite proof.

#275 to #248 - gerfox

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Definite proof meaning a confession, I guess?

#200 to #44 - nicholastheawesome

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(05/13/2014)[-]

thank you!

#165 to #44 - anon id: 810788bf

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(05/13/2014)[-]

What if the accused chooses the accuser as his champion and the accuser chooses the accused. Either way the accused will both end up losing

#166 to #165 - Keoul

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(05/13/2014)[-]

You can refuse to be their champion.

#154 to #44 - randomwanker#103 on contentRank#103

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I don't really watch the show and I don't think I ever will, Is the short guy super strong or does he have a super strong friend who he can choose as a champion?

#351 to #154 - capslockrage

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Why would you not?

#206 to #154 - adriaan

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(05/13/2014)[-]

the guy in the third picture, is his brother and was one of the best knight, but he lost his right hand.

#246 to #206 - anon id: e39eb705

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(05/13/2014)[-]

He chose prince Oberyn to fight for him, well knowing that his father will choose the mountain

#269 to #246 - gerfox

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Well, thanks for the spoiler mate - but I guess this isn't really too serious for the main story.

#252 to #246 - anon id: d6e237a6

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(05/13/2014)[-]

...Aaaand this would be the perfect place for a spoiler tag.

#146 to #44 - zaphodcoolfrood

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Minor correction, only those of noble birth in Westeros can demand trial by combat.

#91 to #44 - azraelwalker

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(05/13/2014)[-]

That is 100% correct IF you basically remove the words "In Westeros".

Trial by combat was an ancient Germanic tradition which was utilized in this fictional universe because it fits the general theme of the word and adds dramatic tension.

When you are defining something please don't make it sound like it was made up by the author if it was an actual thing.

I do apologize for being nitpicky but the tendency for GoT fans to make like the series is the sole creator of all that is interesting annoys the hell out of me.

#261 to #91 - olioh

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(05/13/2014)[-]

maybe, just maybe, he explained it in GoT related way since even the god damn content was from about GoT`?

#147 to #91 - xcoreyx

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(05/13/2014)[-]

What? How it originated doesn't have any effect whatsoever on the fact that a trial by combat exists in Westeros. It's not like he said it only happens in Westeros, he was just making a statement that it's a thing there. I mean the content was from that fictional place, so it's pretty relevant to talk about. I don't really see what your problem is.

#148 to #147 - xcoreyx

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Oh pardon me, I meant to start that comment with "What the actual ****?" Not just "What?"

#93 to #91 - hydromatic [OP]

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I apologize, i didn't intend to offend anyone. I didn't know that.

#84 to #44 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I wonder if they will allow him a proxy since it's the trial of the murder of the king. I didn't read this far into the books to know.

#109 to #84 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

No matter the crime, even regicide, they can't deny either party a champion to fight in their place, since the champion is putting their life on the line for their party. The champion does have to be willing though, so demanding trail by combat doesn't guarantee you can get a champion

#116 to #109 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I am thinking, and I haven't read that far into the books so I don't know, but he may not get a champion and have to fight for himself. And/or the queen picks Jamie as her proxy, this next episode is going to be one of the best.

#118 to #116 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I haven't seen the show, but I've read the books, and this is the time when it really picks up and gets a lot more interesting and intricate. Honestly, George R.R. Martin amazes me, I'm usually exceptionally gifted at deducing things, but with my future predictions on the books, I wouldn't be shocked if he surprises me on 70% of them, that's why I'm fine on the wait times despite being an impatient person, because he has to go through so much to get the endings he wants without plot holes. He could have been one hell of a criminal master mind in another life

#119 to #118 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I like George RR Martins myself, I am a picky reader. It's hard to deduce things when the author is bipolar though. That man writes whatever pops in to his demented little head.

#121 to #119 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

He has a demented head, that's for sure, but I can tell, he's had a set idea from the beginning, and he hasn't written a thing as far as I can tell to differentiate from that. If he writes whatever pops into his head, he at least manipulates it first so it suits his grand idea. Imagine if he was planning crimes with a mind like that, that unpredictability, where even seemingly minor things end up singularly important in the end, he's such a fun puzzle, that's why I will accurately predict the ending to the series, its a competition for me between me and him I'm weird, I know

#127 to #121 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I did the same thing with the Sword of Truth series. I hated waiting for so long for that series to end.

#129 to #127 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I haven't heard of that series, but from talking to you its probably worth the read, so I'll read it now, thanks mate

#142 to #129 - anon id: 6fa8bac0

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(05/13/2014)[-]

Terry Goodkind is the author, it's a wonderful series (pillars of creation is hard to get through)

#130 to #129 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I got my brother, one sister and my mother to read that series, who in turn have gotten some of their friends to read it. it's 11 books long, just for the series, and now he (Terry Goodkind) is releasing a sequal to the series. Same main characters, different plot line.

#132 to #130 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

You can add me to the list, I already have the first book on my phone. Once I decide to do something, I act right then lol

#133 to #132 - luderudecrude

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(05/13/2014)[-]

****** right. buddy.

#137 to #133 - rimjobmcgee

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(05/13/2014)[-]

I'm sending you a friend request, you seem like we could cause a lot of chaotic fun