He couldn't adhere to a simple betrothal, he chose love over a logical choice. You can't do things like that and still be a good king. He was a decent military leader though, I'll give you that.
I don't disagree. However, in books, it's a bit more acceptable.
Sure, marrying with a Western girl was a fatal mistake, but the Ironmen, Tywin gaining power though the alliance with the Tyrell, Catelyn releasing Jaime, etc. were all factors to consider as well.
Arya, Sandor, and Tyrion are the baddest ************* in the books though.
It's also nice because none of them really conflict one another.
All of them hate the Lannisters at this point.
Team " **** the King" has it's moments. I didn't like them at first. but they're starting to have really good scenes. Tyrions my favorite, The trailer for the next episode with Oberyn vs. the mountain made me so excited. Though I accidentally read a spoiler for the next episode. And they've apparently changed a lot from the books already, so I hope it doesn't happen the way it did in the books. I'm rooting for Danny though, Even if she is a dick to Jorah by ******* whats-his-face before sending him to kill the slave masters.
I was a little irritated by how it happened in the books, too. I was hoping that Gregor would die down the road and everyone would be like "Well, Oberyn DID TECHNICALLY kill him, so Tyrion is innocent." So I also hope they just make it simpler in the show. I also really hope Dany starts being nicer to Jorah; he's such a nice guy and he's been through so much, and let's be honest: age differences don't mean **** in the GoT universe so I'm rooting for them to get together. (I'm only pages away from finishing the third book, so I don't know if they do or not.)
In the books Jorah is considered ugly by Danny and most people in general. Age difference doesn't mean much but he is 30 something years older than her which even for there is pretty extreme. And she doesn't treat him better. Their relationship just gets worse.
Lame. I feel like Daenerys is really pretty immature at times, overreacting often and whatnot. She is only 14, so I guess I can understand, but jeez. And she contemplates making Jorah and/or Daario her bedmates at one point.
In the series they have made her more independent and intelligent but in the books she is just a typical teenage girl. She is immature, annoying, rash and rpetty much useless on her own. All the right decisions she has made as queen were actually either Jorah's or Barristan's, they're basically backseat leading for her. All the decisions she makes usually end up in disaster.
The show tries to make her more likable but really she's just a stupid girl.
if I'm up to this current point in the show, Is it necessary to read through books 2 and 3? or would i be able to skip ahead, more or less, to book 4 and come back and read the other books when I finish
I would say start from the beginning of the books, they give a lot more back story and you understand a lot more, plus the show hasn't gotten to the end of book 3, and it cuts out a storyline of what's happening in Dorne. Plus, it cuts out Kevan Lannister, who becomes pretty important later. Everything in general is more in depth in the books as well. definitely would not recommend skipping to book 4
The series strays severely at some points from the books. They have also simplified and condensed it. I suggest reading all the books. I read the books after season 3 and I never felt like it was boeing because I roughly knew what was gonna happen.
Hm... Very good question. I think you should probably read through them only to understand mainly what's going on up by the Wall. I feel like the show doesn't properly give us the details about the wildling/Black Brother battles that go down. But you might be okay just skipping it if you plan to go back and read them some other time.
Like, I'm not missing any major plot differences between the show and book? I'm not too invested in the wall story anyway. The show makes it appear dull and uninteresting to me. Maybe they just haven't gotten to the action-y or heavily important parts yet, but it's my second least favorite story next to Brans story (wtf happened to rickon and Osha in the series? I thought they were travelling with Bran, Hodor, and the twins)
Osha and Rickon also disappear in the book and are never talked of again (at least as far as I've read) so that part in the show is true to the book. lol And I also find the Wall fight very uninteresting because the Others don't really make many appearances although in the book the fights are pretty interesting what with the Giants and the Mammoths and such. Though I don't think that if you don't read the books (because many haven't) you won't be missing much as the show just seems to leave out little details but remain true to the main storyline, so you should be okay.
I would recommend watching the show as opposed to reading the book. Seldom can one find a series as good as Game of Thrones, in which the quality doesn't decrease after a few seasons.
Thank you for the advice! I do a lot more reading than TV watching, so for the moment I'll stick with the books. I might watch the show episodes/seasons when I reach a point where there will be no spoilers, though. I've heard nothing but good of the show, so I'm excited to see it. (I''m just more excited for the books, is all. :p)
I think you should do both, read first book but then got a lot of other books in the way so haven't gone further with the others.
Read the books first and then check the series, it almost blows you away how well done it's.
That would be really great, seeing something done well after reading the books. :p Not to be facetious, but I find that books can honestly ruin a lot of series that would be awesome without the knowledge of the
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fault on the book's part, of course.
I will definitely watch the series after reading the books. My sister watches the series (she started the books last year), so she and I will likely watch it together when I'm done.
A book from one of my favourite authors, The Fifth Wave, is currently being turned into a movie and I'm terrified that they won't do it justice. (Still wish they'd gone with The Monstrumologist instead, but that's another discussion entirely.)
Yeah but thats also why you read all the books first, the watch the seasons as the memory of the first books have gotten a little foggy.
I know of books turned into movie disappointments, I read and loved the book series Eragon and then they literally butchered it in making the movie making it impossible to do sequals cause they ****** up to much in the movie.
Broke my damn heart and made me mad for weeks.
Things I read don't get too foggy, and if something gets a little foggy I tend to go back to the book and find it. If something happens in an adaptation I don't remember, I'll check. Even if I'm just running over things in my head and can't remember an exact quote I find that I have to look up up again. (hence I buy my books instead of borrowing them). Personal choice. I don't feel comfortable with not remembering.
I heard that the movie was horrid compared to the books. :/ I haven't read that series (which is strange, as I've always been obsessed with dragons), but after seeing the movie and, being familiar with the hype from the books, I know that it couldn't have actually done them justice. I hope one day they get a new adaptation that truly does them justice for you.
I can understand that, prefer owning my books also, nice feeling to always know you can pick it up and read them.
If I forget I usually ends up rereading the whole serie.
As do I, I really do recommend the series of Eragon cause to me it's purely an amazing story and will likely be my favorite all time book series for a very long time.
I'm pretty good at remembering exactly where on a page something is, whether I remember the exact page or not, so it doesn't take me too long to find things. I'm also one of the fiends that highlights her favourite parts and dog-ears pages instead of using bookmarks, so owning my own books is also a polite measure to those I would otherwise borrow from. (I treat my friends' books well.) When someone borrows a book of mine, I ask that they also highlight their favourite parts in a different colour, signing their name in that colour in the front. I find it gives the book more personality.
I will definitely read it! It's been on my list for a while. I didn't get much reading done this year (only fifty books, which was initially just my summer goal) due to school work, so I still have a lot of reading to do before I can get to it. I have the entire Redwall series, A Song of Ice and Fire, Tales from Earthsea (the series of them), and a few others.
I cant bring myself to do that, just feel I have to keep my books as intact as possible xD
If it's only a line or something I usually finds quickly after I open the book.
I dont go through that many books, usually goes for book series of pretty large books so they last a while.
I can understand that. I have a few really old books (oldest being an 1899 edition of Boswell's Life of Johnson) that I keep in top condition, as well as a few newer but old-looking leather-bound editions of ancient medical texts (ie The Aphorisms of Hippocrates, De Mortu Cordis, etc.) that I refuse to even breathe on too closely. But if it's a modern thing, generally 1960-onwards, I'm okay with highlighting and such.
I read pretty quickly (I read The Lord of the Rings for the second time in two days), so I can get through quite a bit.
Even if it's a new book or old I try to keep them as new as possible, although I got no especially old books, unless I find them interesting and fun to read I dont buy them, and that I sneak borrow some from the family when I find the chance.
When you reread books you always goes through them pretty quickly, about half the time of what it took originally. I also try to not spend to much time reading a day since it feels like you lose the day if you do that like when you sleep to long.
That's a good way to keep them. I see a well-worn book as a happy book. It's all a matter of personal choice. I try to keep dirt and food away from them, obviously, but I don't feel like ink will do any harm.
All I really do (when not in school or working) is sew and do art, so I find reading to be a nice break. I don't see it is a waste. I see it as an adventure.
Yeah but it gotta be well worn from pure out reading from me, I'm never afraid of reading a book even if it will hurt it. Ofc each it to their own.
It's not a waste, just dont want it to be the only thing I do a day.
I have a few books that are worn purely from reading. My copy of Dreamcatcher by Stephen King I've read a minimum of six times (it's my go-to book for rereading when I just want something I've read before) and it's pretty run down. It doesn't help that I bought it second hand to begin with.
Apologies for cutting our conversation short, but I really have to get to bed. I worked all day and normally would have been asleep two hours ago. A good night to you (or good day, depending on where you are in the world. Peace and love from Canada.)
Because the books are so much better than the show. The show is great, yeah, but if you prefer reading books then why on earth would you watch the show first
As someone who's about half way through the third book, I can tell you that that's a load of wrinkly ballsack. They're both as good as each other, and they both have their own little perks that make one better than the other in certain places.
Like the Battle of Blackwater was far better in the TV series, but Tyrion's journey to the Veil was a whole lot better in the book.
To read the books before watching the series will ruin the latter in so far as suspense is concerned. The question of "books turned to movie disappointments," as below, is nonsensical, since books are always more detailed, and movies more condensed.
As I've said, the written plot behind Game of Thrones is hardly unique -- what gives it its appeal is that a "great" motion picture is based off of it. I've read into the first book, and feel as if the author makes up for a lack of atmosphere with sexual digressions. It isn't exactly the Bible, and I've seen better.
Don't mistake me. I too prefer suspense in books, and feel that, despite my criticism, the first book is superior to the first season, which mirrored it. Indeed, the show, in acting as a summary of the literature, does the atmosphere no favors.
But how often do you find a show, based off of a book, which is produced so well? I guess I feel the way I do because I've read dozens of books, many of them thick trilogies, on medieval-fantasy.
Until the series goes the way of the Walking Dead or Lost, I'll continue watching, rather than reading, an imp's sexual exploits.
That's true, the show is beyond amazing compared to other movie/show adaptations, but I feel as if the best parts wouldn't be missed or ruined if you read the books first. Though I don't think the best parts of the book would be ruined if you watched the show first. Idk, I just feel as if you should read and watch it, though it probably doesn't matter which you do first
**kanatana rolled image** "In Which the Nicest Character in the Show With the Most Clouded Backstory is Absolutely Adorble" would be a good title for this post. Just saying.