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#9 - soule has deleted their comment [-]
#379 to #9 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
George also lied about what Trayvon supposedly did to his head. He said Trayvon bashed his head on the concrete. You get contusions or even jagged lacerations. Zimmerman's head injuries are straight cuts. Not possible from a head bashing. Also Trayvon was shot in the back. Arguing self defense is **** . Zim is a 30 yr old 200 lb guy, Trayvon, a 17 yr old 100 lb boy. ******** . Zim also called the police and was told not to pursue the boy, he did. Again, self defense, ******** . Once your "attacker" turns his back and walks away, the threat is over. No need to shoot him.
#230 to #9 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
Slinking? It was raining!
#190 to #9 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
From what I have read, Zimmerman saw someone walking in the dark with a hoodie behind houses in the rain. He was on the neighborhood watch and somewhat suspicious so he began following him and called the cops. After the 911 operator told him he didn't need to follow him Zimmerman stopped and heading back to his car. But Treyvon confronted him and began throwing punches. Zimmerman reportedly cried for help dozens of times before shooting Treyvon (who was on top of him, punching and banging Zimmerman's head on the pavement.) This wasn't a race issue and the only signs of racism came from Treyvon himself who had referred to Zimmerman as a "creepy ass cracker". If Treyvon hadn't been killed he may have been charged with assault.

User avatar #309 to #190 - Optyc (07/17/2013) [-]
You're incredibly biased
User avatar #322 to #309 - meestaa (07/17/2013) [-]
Yeah, no, he isn't.

Those are the facts seen on countless sources throughout the internet and other media.

There was actually no emotive language at all in his comment, so i fail to see how you could claim that he is being biased.
User avatar #174 to #9 - lilnegro (07/17/2013) [-]
that was dumb. he racial profiled him. he wouldn't have followed a white kid with a hoodie. then again who would? and the police told him to stop following him. trayvon should not have attacked him but he should not have followed him. at the end of the day a kid was killed. they both were at fault but zimmerman instigated. step your game up son.
#312 to #174 - arkem (07/17/2013) [-]
You can't argue against race issues with the name "lilnegro"
#191 to #174 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
Actually, Zimmerman's neighbourhood has had a long history of violent B&E, rape, etc and all of them from teenagers, both white and black. There is no evidence to say that he would have let a strange suspicious white kid go either.
#179 to #174 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
First off, you don't know if he wouldn't have. If I saw anyone in a baggy hoodie slowly walking around a private neighborhood, regardless of race, I would be suspicious. If it was my job, as head of the neighborhood watch, to follow this person and make sure they weren't up to no good, I would follow them.

Second, the police DISPATCH said they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. It was not an order, nor was it an explicit request.

Third, evidence suggested that, although Zimmerman followed, Trayvon was the one who lashed out physically, AFTER making derogatory racial remarks at Zimmerman. At the end of the day, a life was lost, but it was the victim who instigated this. The only legal charge Zimmerman should be found guilty of is Vigilante-ism.
User avatar #180 to #179 - lilnegro (07/17/2013) [-]
first off no one would follow a white kid in a hoodie. Nobody. It was racial profiling. there is literally nothing you can say to change that. and he instigated by following him. if i followed you. you would do the same. why wouldnt he lash out. he is a kid? isnt that what kids do? lash out when something they dont like is going on. He still should have listened to the suggestion because he had 0 grounds to follow him. kid does what he is taught. to stand up for himself. Even though he did it wrongly he shouldnt have followed the kid. ZImmerman started this whole situation.
#305 to #180 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
Also, zimmerman was WALKING BACK TO HIS CAR when the kid attacked. Zimmerman left it be, the kid instigated the fight. Learn your facts first.
#303 to #180 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
first off no one would follow a white kid in a hoodie. Nobody.
Yes they ******* would. Isn't that racism on your part now? Assuming all white kids in hoodies are well mannered and black people aren't? Teens in hoodies look suspicious no matter the colour because of the stereotype that thugs dress like that. I would follow a white kid because where I live there are actually MORE white hoodied chavs than black.

why wouldnt he lash out. he is a kid? isnt that what kids do? lash out when something they dont like is going on.
NO thats what pathetic thugs do. If you raise a child to attack whenever they dont like something you have something seriously wrong with you. HE was the one who started with insults first and then attacked first. "Stand up for himself". Zimmerman reportedly didnt attack him first, nor insult him. He just followed him as part of his neighbourhood watch duty. Nobody was causing the kid to 'stand up for himself' when it was the KID who was attacking FIRST.
User avatar #217 to #180 - themongoose (07/17/2013) [-]
I'm white. I've followed white kids in my neighborhood wearing hoodies and running away.

My mom was on the phone with the cops and I got in my car and followed them. And this was in the DAY TIME. Turns out they were just going to a bonfire and they were sneaking around in the trees next to my house where we had a stack of firewood trying to get some of it. Had they asked, we would have told them to take as much as they wanted. Totally innocent, not a big deal, would have been better to just ask.

If I see someone parked for too long sitting in their car on my street, I go talk to them. If I see someone just hanging out on my street, I open my garage, get a chair and just watch. If it's night time, I call the cops and make it very obvious that I'm watching them.

Why wouldn't he lash out? Because a well raised, respectful person would raise his hands to show there is no hostility and begin a conversation. I've been on that side of things too, and I was younger than Martin.

Being black doesn't make a person stupid, you've done that on your own. Same with everyone protesting this crap.
#209 to #180 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
You still haven't provided any evidence on which to support your sweeping accusation that "no one would follow a white kid". I'm sorry man, but without real facts, there's no way to prove this was a racially charge event. You're letting emotion cloud judgement.
#188 to #180 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
Isn't it a bit racist to say that nobody would follow a white kid in a hoodie?

Nobody?
User avatar #42 to #9 - rhetoricalfunny (07/16/2013) [-]
He was explicitly told NOT to pursue the "suspicious man"

I mean, that's about it. It's not about color, or self defense or anything. His job is to observe and report. He shouldn't have gone anywhere near Trayvon, he was told not to.

That's the way I see it.
User avatar #126 to #42 - battledude (07/17/2013) [-]
But if trayvon is so dangerous that walking near him gets you beaten until you decide shooting for you life it the only answer, he shouldn't have been allowed to even be in public
User avatar #66 to #42 - fhqwghads (07/17/2013) [-]
You know if you see a guy hanging off a cliff and you call 911 to report it, and say you're going to help him, they will tell you, "We don't need you to do that." Does that mean you shouldn't go help him?
#50 to #42 - bearsalley (07/16/2013) [-]
The actual quote, for reference, was:
911 Operator: "Are you following him?"
Zimmerman: "Yes."
911 Operator: "Okay, we don't need you to do that."
User avatar #51 to #50 - rhetoricalfunny (07/17/2013) [-]
I am aware
She wasn't implying, "We don't need you to do that, but it's okay if you want to."
What she was saying was, "Don't ******* do that."

I mean, quoting direct words doesn't actually do **** . Any sane person realizes what the officer meant. (Or call person, I dunno the **** they're called.)
#165 to #51 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
You're wrong. When a dispatcher says that, they do it strictly not to be liable. He did not break any laws when he pursued. A law was broken when the first punch was thrown, not beforehand.
User avatar #103 to #51 - bandoslootshare (07/17/2013) [-]
the quote from "911 Operator" was "we don't need you to do that". Why would you change a quote for your ignorant You need to login to view this link was NOT "don't ******* do that". Also you might want to remember that it was from a "911 Operator", with little or no authority (she just answers phone calls and takes information) seriously.
User avatar #54 to #51 - ohaibrooooh (07/17/2013) [-]
Actually the police dispatchers aren't allowed to give orders, merely suggestions.

"Sean Noffke, the dispatcher who was on the phone during Zimmerman's non-emergency call, testified regarding his own statements at that time. Noffke said that when he told Zimmerman "We don't need you to do that," he was making a suggestion, not giving an order. He said that dispatchers do not give orders because of liability issues..."
#154 to #54 - littlejewnig (07/17/2013) [-]
reading this comment, all i could think of was this.
#52 to #51 - bearsalley (07/17/2013) [-]
I get what you're saying and agree that Zimmerman should have stayed in his car, but I think you might be misleading some people by saying that Zimmerman was explicitly told not so pursue Trayvon.
User avatar #53 to #52 - rhetoricalfunny (07/17/2013) [-]
Oh hey, you're right.
Amazing the difference one wee word can make eh.
#104 to #53 - bearsalley (07/17/2013) [-]
Very true, very true.
User avatar #41 to #9 - Johnsfer (07/16/2013) [-]
Found it funny how the pictures they used of Trayvon were from when he was in his Basketball team years ago, to make you feel sad about him.
User avatar #105 to #41 - bandoslootshare (07/17/2013) [-]
I was wondering why he looked so clean and shaven, they had to go back ******* years huh.
#39 to #9 - newall (07/16/2013) [-]
the "Self-appointed" leader of the neighbourhood watch.
it's not his job, it's something he wanted to do. he put himself in that situation, and anyone else who followed someone who they suspected of being a criminal for several blocks, before confronting them, would be a moron if they didn't expect to get beaten up.

Except he was armed. so now he's a crime fighting hero. well done George. well done America.
#71 to #39 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
I bet you think women bring it upon themselves to get raped too
#58 to #39 - anonymous (07/17/2013) [-]
he didnt carry the gun to be a crime fighting hero, he had it to protect himself. He followed a suspicious person and defended himself when he was being attacked.

And why does it matter if he wanted to be the neighborhood watch leader? he wasnt putting himself there so he could shoot people. If my neighborhood had a watch group i would make myself the leader. Im a veteran and i would love to help keep my neighbors safe. I would also carry my gun. All that says about america or me as a person is that i take pride in my country and want to keep everyone safe. I wouldnt go around just shooting people but if after following a suspect i was attacked and overpowered i would probably shoot (although at 5'10'' and 210lbs of muscle i probably wouldnt be overpowered easily.)
User avatar #83 to #58 - durgesark (07/17/2013) [-]
I agree.

Another point of information/

Just as Zimmerman stopped following him, and started heading home, Trayvon attacked him.
#22 to #13 - gameshredder (07/16/2013) [-]
He kinda looks like Gordon to me...
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#14 to #12 - varrlegrimscythe (07/16/2013) [-]
I was just trying to help...
User avatar #102 to #14 - bandoslootshare (07/17/2013) [-]
so this was what the jurors saw .. cant argue with the verdict to be honest.
User avatar #17 to #14 - carneymaster ONLINE (07/16/2013) [-]
wow that guys a dick.
"Also, I think people really haven't seen the photos of the damage that Trayvon did to George's head before he was shot. It's nasty."
You post 2 more and he calls you a smartass.
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#260 to #178 - cyanskater (07/17/2013) [-]
In what manner of speaking is the term "smartass" said endearingly?   
I don't know of any English culture who wouldn't interpret that as a sloppy insult.
In what manner of speaking is the term "smartass" said endearingly?
I don't know of any English culture who wouldn't interpret that as a sloppy insult.
#316 to #260 - thighhighkneesocks (07/17/2013) [-]
I use smartass and dumbass as well as dickwad as terms of endearment on an almost daily basis but it's something you have to be careful with. If I'm not almost insulting you, I probably don't like you that much. If they're cursing every other word, obviously being serious and have been doing so for a few comments, that's when we can all agree their being a dick.
User avatar #308 to #260 - Optyc (07/17/2013) [-]
Smartass is used all the time endearingly why the **** would he get 100+ thumbs down i dont even
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