Monty Python and Feminism. It is Monty Pyhton right? I don't want to this up.. am DH ‘IT' S A GIRL’ AT BIRTH IT' S MDT HEIGHT ‘ GENDER RULES DH BABIES’ IT' S HE Monty Python and Feminism It is Pyhton right? I don't want to this up am DH ‘IT' S A GIRL’ AT BIRTH IT' MDT HEIGHT ‘ GENDER RULES BABIES’ HE
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Monty Python and Feminism. It is Monty Pyhton right? I don't want to this up.. am DH ‘IT' S A GIRL’ AT BIRTH IT' S MDT HEIGHT ‘ GENDER RULES DH BABIES’ IT' S HE

It is Monty Pyhton right? I don't want to **** this up.

am DH ‘IT' S A GIRL’ AT BIRTH
IT' S MDT HEIGHT ‘ GENDER RULES DH BABIES’ IT' S
HEIGHT ENSURING THE CHILD GETS THE BEST GARE
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anyways what else w-: they say if they can' t !t. gglg% ,' they !
yeah that' s net game want.
Iii sure is a baby alright‘
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #10 - herecomesjohnny
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who says doctors shouldn't say it's a boy/girl?
User avatar #170 to #10 - Rei
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Dickheads
User avatar #27 to #10 - redeadhunter
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Certain parts of the transgender...well, lets call it community just for the sake of argument.

I'm not saying they don't have a point, human sexuality is a lot more fluid than people might think. But sometimes they get ridiculous with their ideals.
User avatar #11 to #10 - OldSnake
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Feminazis.

No, not feminists. Feminazis.
User avatar #12 to #11 - herecomesjohnny
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...wouldn't that be like a white supremacist not caring if the baby comes out black?
User avatar #13 to #12 - OldSnake
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It's not that they don't care. Quite the opposite.
User avatar #100 to #12 - theohnelly
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They didn't think about they're too busy focusing on what they can do to piss us off
#113 to #11 - CptSoapMacTavish
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First time I've seen someone make a distinction between the two.   
Good ******* job. +1
First time I've seen someone make a distinction between the two.
Good ******* job. +1
User avatar #206 to #113 - mitchr
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What is this neckbreaking gif from?
#223 to #206 - wamegor
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monogatari series, I think the second season
monogatari series, I think the second season
#157 to #113 - voltism
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yeah they are so similar I'm glad someone finally noticed the difference...
#266 to #11 - slycoop
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Enjoy your daily dose of rage.
User avatar #292 to #266 - cobaltblazer
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>why can't they say "IT'S A BABY"
Well ******* god damn I would hope it's a baby already.
I don't think announcing that would do much
#293 to #292 - slycoop
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This is the one that really got to me. She seriously BLAMED THE MOTHER for what sex the baby was. I just...
User avatar #317 to #11 - thatguycrow
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I believe you're thinking of Social Justice Warriors (or SJWs for short)
User avatar #315 to #11 - hudis
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Thank you. I was about to go on a three-paragraph rant about the difference between feminists and misandrists-in-feminist-disguise there for a second. You saved me some rage.
#288 to #11 - anon id: 50946f38
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*feminist
fixed it for ya
#289 to #288 - OldSnake
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>Implying it needed fixing.
#242 to #11 - computerlife
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anytime I see your posts I cant help but read it in the old solid snake voice. Only old sake pic I have
#60 to #11 - lfunnymanl
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User avatar #82 to #60 - mitchr
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Feminists want women to be equal to men.
Feminazis want to chop off your cock and feed it to their dog with some filet mignon.
User avatar #136 to #60 - OldSnake
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You dropped your fedora trilby.
#137 to #136 - OldSnake
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Here it is.
#23 - A Pickle
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IF IT HAS A PENIS, IT'S A ******* BOY.
User avatar #180 to #23 - timmity
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what if its transsexual or transgender you dense, insensitive scum
User avatar #218 to #23 - toastedspikes
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I have a dick and I'm a girl.
User avatar #231 to #218 - masterflagger
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Your Y chromosome says otherwise.
#233 to #231 - anon id: d0c4b6eb
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Her potential hermaphroditic...ness says otherwise.
User avatar #166 to #23 - tylerneihoff
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Yes and no. YES, I completely agree. But. It can be a male, but be a girl. Gender and sex are not the same thing.
User avatar #163 to #23 - flomosho
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Tranny
#268 to #23 - fizzleshake
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Why not a normal boy?
User avatar #35 to #23 - derpyhoovezz
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Well thats pretty edgy, i mean its not like you gave it a choice for what IT wants to be
sarcasm
#156 to #35 - anon id: 0d827b24
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your gender it's not something you can choose, it's not like a job or a career. If you have a penis you are a boy, not everyone wants to be transgender.
User avatar #274 to #35 - Ruspanic
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it
#64 - maaarknuuuut
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IT'S ALIIIIIIIIVE
User avatar #114 to #64 - hoponthefeelstrain
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what if it's stillborn?
User avatar #153 to #64 - kanpai
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oh wait... false alarm.
#286 to #64 - thenikohero
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Comment Picture
#107 to #64 - teruterubozu
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I have a firm belief that this guy's comment should be top comment on this page.   
Not stupid feminazi political arguing ********, but actual humor.
I have a firm belief that this guy's comment should be top comment on this page.
Not stupid feminazi political arguing ********, but actual humor.
User avatar #85 to #64 - richardastley
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There are dead people out there too, you insensitive bastard!
User avatar #90 to #85 - aquawolf
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when did he say that it was a person you uncultured swine
#115 to #90 - marioauditore
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Swines have feelings too, you useless restoration mage!
#316 to #115 - twowhiteamigos
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Restoration is a valid school of magic
#198 to #115 - anon id: ed6adb07
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So do restoration mages you narcoleptic cumquat.
#78 - hauntzor
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I've been having to explaining this to a lot of people lately.   
   
"Gender" and "sex" are two different subjects.  Your sex is determined by your reproductive plumbing and your gender is what you identify yourself as- either a man or a woman- and most of us are perfectly fine with what we have at birth, so we are cisgendered (yes, that is a real word and not just some term that a group of Tumblr activists conjured up to make themselves feel like special snowflakes) because we are born with a dick or a vagina and never once think, "you know, I don't feel right having these things on me."  Some people aren't and may decide to change it, either by dressing or portraying themselves differently and most of the time by taking hormone therapy, but with no body-augmenting surgery (transgender), or by going all the way under the knife and having their genitals switched to the gender they are most comfortable with (transsexual).  Yes, transgender and transsexual are actually two different terms.   
   
   
Sorry for acting like a butthurt faggot.  I'm just sick of the FunnyJunk community's general intolerance and lack of understanding towards this issue.   
   
 And about the content, I believe that babies should be raised as whatever gender they were originally born as unless the child decides otherwise.
I've been having to explaining this to a lot of people lately.

"Gender" and "sex" are two different subjects. Your sex is determined by your reproductive plumbing and your gender is what you identify yourself as- either a man or a woman- and most of us are perfectly fine with what we have at birth, so we are cisgendered (yes, that is a real word and not just some term that a group of Tumblr activists conjured up to make themselves feel like special snowflakes) because we are born with a dick or a vagina and never once think, "you know, I don't feel right having these things on me." Some people aren't and may decide to change it, either by dressing or portraying themselves differently and most of the time by taking hormone therapy, but with no body-augmenting surgery (transgender), or by going all the way under the knife and having their genitals switched to the gender they are most comfortable with (transsexual). Yes, transgender and transsexual are actually two different terms.


Sorry for acting like a butthurt faggot. I'm just sick of the FunnyJunk community's general intolerance and lack of understanding towards this issue.

And about the content, I believe that babies should be raised as whatever gender they were originally born as unless the child decides otherwise.
User avatar #124 to #78 - roflsaucer
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The difference between "gender" and "sex" is more of a social thing than an actual language one. If you go on, say, vocabulary.com or dictionary.com and look at their definitions for "gender", dictionary.com will literally have "sex" as the definition for it, and vocabulary.com will tell you that sex and gender are synonyms and that gender means "the properties that distinguish organisms on the basis of their reproductive roles".
User avatar #140 to #124 - lyiat
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No, the non-difference is a social thing, because a lot of people incorrectly use the terms interchangeably. Dictionaries update frequently to include slang and demonstrate the evolution of words in language; if people start using words for a different meaning and that enters common vernacular, a dictionary will update to show it. This is why 'Cool' both shows something as cold and interesting in a dictionary. Sex and gender have two completely different meanings in biology, psychology, medicine, and science, which is where hauntzor is getting his information (correctly). If you opened up a biology textbook, you'd get vastly different info.

TL;DR, Gender is a social construct and sex is a biological trait.
User avatar #146 to #140 - roflsaucer
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www.medilexicon.com/medicaldictionary.php?t=36609 - Medical
www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Gender - Biological
psychology.about.com/od/gindex/g/gender.htm - Psychological

That, combined with my previous makes for most of the sources having "sex" included in the definition for gender, or saying that they're the same thing.

I'm well aware that Gender and Sex are two different things, but that's a social construct.
User avatar #148 to #146 - lyiat
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You going to keep tossing me online links? Alright, I can do that too.

www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363.php
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction
www.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201110/sex-difference-vs-gender-difference-oh-im-so-confused

We done? I can cite websites that say the holocaust never happened and that the Earth is flat too. Doesn't mean they're bloody right.
User avatar #151 to #148 - roflsaucer
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No need to get so heated, I'm not even disagreeing with the fact that gender and sex is different. They ARE different.

As you said (sort of), words and language changes to accommodate changes in slang and such, which is pretty much what I'm saying. The differentiation happened as a result of social change, not necessarily a literal one.
User avatar #119 to #78 - justmedude
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Just to add to this.
You can generally call transsexual people transgender, some even prefer it because many people focus too much on the 'sexual' part of transsexual (and there's some left over negative feelings towards transsexuals attached to that word (mostly from decades ago)).
This is also why transgender is now a more political correct word.

Many transsexuals prefer to be called either a man or a woman anyway (or even transman or transwoman).

Of course, everything differs from person to person, which makes it all the more difficult for outsiders. But that's pretty much the case for most labels.

Another misconception I see a lot on FJ is that people seem to think transsexual people are attracted to the same sex they identify themselves with. Which is not true. There's gay, straight, bi, a-sexual, etc, etc, etc transsexuals.
#142 to #78 - anon id: bb975e2e
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Yes I think the main (and justified) anger is directed at morons who don't want to say it's a girl/boy at a childs birth. They can **** off and jump off a bridge.
#203 to #78 - erpee
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Only part I kinda disagree with you on is the last bit about raising your child. I don't think children should be raised differently just because they are a boy or girl
Only part I kinda disagree with you on is the last bit about raising your child. I don't think children should be raised differently just because they are a boy or girl
User avatar #250 to #203 - hauntzor
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You're right, I worded that kind of ******.

Just because someone identifies as a boy doesn't mean they'll automatically want boy things and vice versa.
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User avatar #181 to #78 - pootismang
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I learned today.
User avatar #97 to #78 - ichies
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You forgot about the transvestite term, which implicates dressing as the opposite sex, which is the least serious out of the three.
#88 to #78 - psyachu
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You have to be pretty much the most sensible person on FJ I have EVER seen!
You have to be pretty much the most sensible person on FJ I have EVER seen!
User avatar #83 to #78 - laelaps
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That actually was very informative. I've never really understood what the term cisgendered meant nor have I ever really taken the time to understand the difference between sex and gender. Also, now I know the difference between transgender and transsexual, because before I just used the terms interchangeably.

While I still think the activists who preach this **** as "equality" are ******* insane, it is nice to understand the terminology and even a little of the philosophy behind their beliefs. +1
User avatar #87 to #83 - hauntzor
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it's all good mang. Even my friends who are LGBT activists didn't know for themselves what the terms meant, so it's obvious that it's not common knowledge at this point.
#101 - thesticklebricks
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#323 to #101 - anon id: 0f865aa1
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this looks like the start of some european bdsm video

ive seen enough in my time to recognize it..
User avatar #1 - scaratel
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silly crazy people. boy = male, girl = female. There's hermaphrodite and A-sexual too but human languages don't have casual terms for these (as far as I know). Nothing to do with gender, it's the child's sex which is a biological thing. It doesn't matter if they grow up and alter their sexual organs or what their sexual preference is, they will fit one of these categories based on genetics.
#8 to #1 - xxmemosxx
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Humans can't be asexual.
User avatar #19 to #8 - critique
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asexuality is pretty much non-sexuality... you want emotional relationships but you just have no biological interest in sex.
#80 to #19 - anon id: eded6046
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That is actually called pansexuality.
User avatar #109 to #80 - meganinja
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Except you're wrong. Pansexuality is (in simpler terms) more like being bisexual What I just said was incorrect, but bear with me here. Asexuality is the opposite of pansexuality, meaning you're not looking for any sexual relations at all. You can still have emotional attachment and **** like that (for example, I can be attracted to girls if they have a really nice personality, or hell, even if they're really cute. I don't want to have sex with them, I just wanna cuddle up with them for eternity.
User avatar #14 to #8 - malhaloc
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they can be they just cant reproduce asexually. you can be attracted to yourself.
#128 to #8 - xxmemosxx
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My bad, I was always under the impression the term was exclusively used for reproduction asexuals reproduce on their own .
#16 to #1 - deckbox
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No this **** is worse, parents don't tell their kid is a boy or girl and raise it as a thing.then they wait until like 12 and say now what you wanna be a girl or boy and then get all the hormone **** and operations done. Some kids end up like this and have gender dysmorphia I get that, was but the neutral **** is just retarded
User avatar #2 to #1 - godtherapist
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The word you are searching for is Intersex.
User avatar #3 to #2 - scaratel
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I could google that word but I'm going to ask you what you mean by it. Which part of my comment means intersex?
User avatar #4 to #3 - godtherapist
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A person that has an ambiguous sexual assignment such has "hermaphrodites".
#5 to #4 - scaratel
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oohh, thanks!
User avatar #31 to #1 - Leopard
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Gender and sex are no longer considered the same.
User avatar #103 to #1 - meganinja
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>implying Asexuals don't identify as male or female. I'm a male asexual, being asexual doesn't mean you have no sex/gender, it means you're not interested in sexual relations.
User avatar #117 to #1 - tazze
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technically a hermaphrodite needs both sexual organs (male and female) to be functional to be called that (in other words, a true hermaphrodite should be able to impregnate itself) and as far as I know there have been no documented cases
User avatar #131 to #117 - scaratel
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hermaphrodite still has a clear genetic definition for humans so it still applies.
User avatar #251 to #1 - xdeathspawnx
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asexual people still can be classified as male or female, they just don't have or don't act on sexual attraction.
User avatar #15 to #1 - mutzaki
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"It's a hermy."
#18 - monarkh
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I am lost and a little stupid, can someone explain me why it is wrong to announce the gender outloud? Is it summoning some kind of dark force or something?
User avatar #21 to #18 - critique
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I GUESS announcing what gender they are physically is supposed to automatically label them as that gender when in the future their sexual orientation and identity might change. You can be born a girl and later identify as a boy when you become an adult.
#22 to #21 - monarkh
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Damn! And I thought I was stupid...
Damn! And I thought I was stupid...
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User avatar #34 to #22 - critique
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no, go ahead. What about that is stupid? I'd love to hear what you have to say.
#65 to #34 - anon id: b05c07a1
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if the baby has a penis it is a boy, if it has a vagina it is a girl.
Why would we stop saying their gender?They can change if they want to.
User avatar #69 to #65 - critique
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I don't know. I can understand that calling them what they prefer makes sense when they're old enough to make that decision, but babies don't care what you call them.

That's where I can't see any sense in it. Personally, calling as it is at birth is fine. If you're still calling them the wrong gender after they've corrected you multiple times, then there's a problem.

The people making a big deal out of this don't understand babies very well...
User avatar #219 to #65 - toastedspikes
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Sex =/= Gender.
User avatar #36 to #22 - hackmon
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apparently you are, lol
User avatar #70 to #21 - lordmoldywart
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If you're a born a boy, you're always a boy. You can identify yourself as a girl but you're still a boy. And vice versa.
User avatar #72 to #70 - critique
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If you say that to somebody who actually identifies as the opposite gender, they will get very angry. I used to think like that until I got corrected and yelled at so many times that I just accepted it.
User avatar #74 to #72 - lordmoldywart
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They can get as angry as they want, they're still wrong
User avatar #76 to #74 - critique
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whoa... I just had scary deja vu except I'm on the opposite end of the argument. than last time I had this conversation... trippy...
#164 to #72 - anon id: 433c11ad
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I don't understand why someone would "identify" as the opposite gender despite their genetics/genitalia. They're only kidding themselves. If they go to a hospital, the doctor will identify them by their true gender. If they actually want to switch genders, there is a procedure for that. I mean, it sounds as absurd as someone insisting their hat is red despite the objective fact that it is green.
#161 to #72 - anon id: dcb2e8d1
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That's not learning to be correct, that's giving up because you don't want to put the effort in to argue your opinion. That's stockholm syndrome, not a revelation.
User avatar #116 to #18 - hoponthefeelstrain
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I think what they meant by imposing gender roles is like.. if it's a girl, you'll get most of her baby clothes in pink with flowers and fairies on it, if it's a boy you'll get blue stuff with dinosaurs and cars/ airplanes on it. Your friends will give your baby gifts based on it's gender.
#25 to #18 - steppeden
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If im correct, feminazis think it's bad just say "boy", "guy", "he" or anything related to males. Because its rape towards women or some **** these feminazis think.
#53 to #25 - anon id: 72488a4c
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It's not fem-nazis (not everything wrong with the world is), it's people who want to live gender neutrally.

Jesus Christ funnyjunk, no wonder most of you don't have girlfriends.
User avatar #73 to #53 - techjoker
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Found the feminazi
User avatar #92 to #53 - hates
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gender neutral =/= banning any mention of males
User avatar #62 - zytherman
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This makes no sense.

Do the parents who refuse to 'label' their kids refuse them to do anything that may be deemed as "too boyish" or "too girlish" like if the kid is a boy, and he stands up to take a wizz, do the parents say "Don't do that, or you'll be come a boy"

If theres a dick = boy
If theres no dick = Girl

It's not labeling, it's just factually correct.
User avatar #67 to #62 - fishinyourface
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I wish that any parent who thinks it's a "label" would not be a parent at all....
#106 - timetostopposting
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>doctor's fw
#202 to #106 - championofglaceon
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How do you explain THIS!
You can't
#155 - lumberjackery
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I hate that gender decision is now a thing. you're born with what you have, and that's what you are. if a man thinks he's meant to be a penguin does that make him a penguin? i support gay and bisexual rights all the way and I don't mind if you do become a transexual, i'm just not going to feed whatever is making you unstable with your own self, and pretend that you are now a different sex because you suddenly chose to be something other than yourself.
User avatar #159 to #155 - agentchaos
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it isn't a sudden decision most trannies have always been trannies, but 99.9% of us are in the right gender so lets not bend over backwards for someone else's feelings
User avatar #167 to #155 - lorddarkskull
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You can identify as whatever the **** you want
they just need to know that their dna says otherwise
there's a copy of it in every cell in your body
that's about 37.2 trillion little pieces of evidence telling them they're wrong
User avatar #168 to #155 - kanadetenshi
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You must be very ignorant if you assume trangenders just "suddenly" chose to be something else like it was some random decision they made on a sunday.
User avatar #169 to #168 - lumberjackery
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I misused the word suddenly, I know it's a long process, but i morally disagree with it for non-religious reasons. It's not safe to let people live out fantasies where they are something they are just not.
User avatar #172 to #169 - kanadetenshi
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I highly disagree, i think it's extremely unsafe to deny people to be who they are just because you are too close-minded to understand how they feel. It's not just a fantasy to these people, they literally are simply in the wrong body, neurological evidence has shown this.
User avatar #174 to #172 - lumberjackery
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Like the man who thinks he's a penguin. they are not mentally stable if they are so insecure with their own gender they believe they should be the other. It is not who they are, it is a mental issue. it's close minded, but then it seems sanity is indeed close minded these days.
User avatar #175 to #174 - kanadetenshi
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No, you're not close minded based on sanity, you're close minded because you haven't done your research and are completely unqualified to talk about it.

There is a huge difference between a man identifying himself as a penguin and a woman identifying herself as a man, namely that it is genetically impossible for a human to feel like a penguin. The androgen receptor (AR), also known as NR3C4, is activated by the binding of testosterone or dihydrotestosterone, where it plays a critical role in the forming of primary and secondary male sex characteristics. Hare et al. found that male-to-female transsexuals were found to have longer repeat lengths on the gene, which reduced its effectiveness at binding testosterone. Do you find any of that kind of genetic evidence in people identifying as penguins? No.

It's not a mental issue, it's a genetic issue, and these people are not mentally unstable, they're simply aware of the fact that they are in the wrong body and it's uncomfortable for them.

If anything it's you who are the mentally unstable it's you trying to talk about things you have literally no education on.
User avatar #177 to #175 - Lainge
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**** YOU. HOW DARE YOU SAY HE'S NOT A PENGUIN. DON'T YOU FORCE YOUR CLOSED MINDED HATE ON HIM.
User avatar #176 to #175 - lumberjackery
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First off, I have looked into it, and that's only one of several theories, which even if true, would only shift the issue into the fact we probably should not be fueling any sort of issue, genetic or mental. And i am personally sorry if you do not like the penguin expression. would you prefer an albatross? or how about an Arctic Puffin?
User avatar #178 to #176 - lumberjackery
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and you can totally feel like a bird as a result of genetics, since many mental issues are the result of genetic issues
User avatar #182 to #178 - kanadetenshi
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Uhm no, once again you're showing that you have absolutely no background education on genetics whatsoever.

Yes it's true that genes can influence specific parts of the brains to cause cognitive dissonance making you delusional and think you're a penguin (or that transexuality is a mental issue rather than a physiological one) but i'm specifically referring to genes that literally changes their genders.
#189 to #182 - lumberjackery
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I love the fact that i've created a word wall out of the comments using a man dressed in a penguin suit. I'mma go get a haircut. Ya'll have a good night
User avatar #190 to #189 - kanadetenshi
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Aww running away from the argument? Are the facts too hurtfull for you?
User avatar #230 to #190 - jooby
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*****, shut up.
User avatar #191 to #190 - lumberjackery
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Bitch i don't care about your gibberish, I'm going to go get a mutherfookin haircut and that's final. don't try and stop me it's who I am!
User avatar #216 to #176 - ugottanked
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arctic puffin/10 would lel again
User avatar #179 to #176 - kanadetenshi
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Several theories backed up with evidence proving that they are in what the way they are instead of it being a mental issue. And it's exactly the fact that they are in the wrong body that we should allow them to be called by the gender that they are. I'm sorry if you don't like facts and prefer to live in your own ignorant little fairy tale. And i don't like the penguin expression because it's a strawman.
User avatar #183 to #179 - lumberjackery
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No, they are living in the ignorant fairy tale, and you are the one refusing to wake them up
User avatar #187 to #183 - kanadetenshi
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It's been scientifically proven that they are in the wrong body so it's the complete opposite of an ignorant fairy tale, it's a scientific fact. To ignore the fact that they are in the wrong body is pure ignorance. And since you completely failed to provide any scientific evidence for your points and just rambled like a delusional idiot i can say with confidence that you are the one living an ignorant fairy tale.

You're right though, i should not let people live their fantasies, which is why i'm giving you a reality check.
#241 to #187 - guanyu
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Constantly slinging "ignorant" and "close minded" around isn't helping your cause.
I understand if you take this subject to heart. I'm guessing this gender/sex stuff has affected you in some way or is something you really care about and, thus, you found his comment offensive, which I also understand, since he's kind of implying that there's something wrong with transgender people.
Keep in mind, though, that setting him ablaze like this is not doing your arguments any justice. He even stated that he has nothing against "gender reassignment", he just doesn't understand it and finds it a bit strange.
Also, if somebody has an opinion based on incorrect information, correct it... without resorting to petty insults, because that'll just makes you look like a douche. Trust me, I've been there. shamecube.jpg
#210 to #172 - mummyslittlebitch
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>literally

Suppose a man walks into a hospital claiming he is an octopus. They do neurological tests on him and run him through a cat scan and a bunch of machines which determine he does in fact 100% believe that he is an octopus. Is he literally an octopus?

And listen, I don't give a **** what an informed, of age person chooses to mutilate on their body for aesthetic reasons, but I just think your argument is completely retarded.
User avatar #211 to #210 - kanadetenshi
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No. Because genetically and neurologically he is not an octopus, his belief that he is an octopus is based on a cognitive dissonance. Where as transgender people actually have genes that literally express and determine the gender on a cognitive level. They are literally a male/female in the wrong body. It's really simple if you actually paid attention at your highschool biology class.
#213 to #211 - mummyslittlebitch
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Is the brain any less chemical than your genetic argument? (Genetics which, by the way, are imprinted with X or Y chromosomes. But we'll just ignore that detail for now)
User avatar #215 to #213 - kanadetenshi
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"any less chemical than your genetic argument"......is that even a proper english sentence? I have no idea what you're even trying to say.

And yes they are imprinted in the X or Y chromosome, but the X and Y chromosome primarily determine what gender they are from the outside, not what gender they are within the genes and neurons themself.
User avatar #186 to #155 - weinerdick
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I'm fine with it, myself.
Just as long as the person give a heads up about what they were born as.
I don't care if you identify as female, you had/ve a dick, you're a dude, no thank you sir.
#221 to #155 - anon id: 6598b16a
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
#158 to #155 - glaciel
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I would suggest reading about transgenderism before writing about it in public, as what you wrote suggests you do not fully understand the issue.
#185 to #155 - helenwheels
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Well friend. There's gender and there's sex.
Gender is social construct.
Sex is biological.
You can choose what role you wish to play in society. But you can't REALLY change your sex.
#209 to #185 - mummyslittlebitch
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But isn't making that choice implying that there is in fact a difference in the capabilities of the sexes within society? Wouldn't the gender equality arguments coming from people who want to change genders then be completely hypocritical, coming from them that is?
User avatar #227 to #209 - helenwheels
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That man could be woman and woman could be man. How does that disprove gender equality?
User avatar #165 to #155 - TATTYBOJANGLES
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I kinda agree with you, I'm one open minded mother ******, but this just seems so ******* stupid to me, I just cringe when I hear some one refer to a guy as she. If I was ever in that situation where I met a transgender person, I would be respectful but I just couldn't bring myself to call them that. Saying that, I don't think people just randomly decide one day that they'd like to be something else, even for the most impulsive people I think that would be pushing it quite far. From what I understand these people have deeply rooted gender issues and it would be a little presumptuous to just write them off as unstable nut jobs. I don't really know how I feel about it, just calling a guy she just doesn't seem right to me, maybe I'm wrong and I'm just an insensitive prick, but I think trying to help that person come to terms with their god given identity is a better first step than just saying "OK, welcome to the club, you're a guy/girl now, whatever, do what you want."
#160 to #155 - spanishninja
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