Never understood worrying about the butterfly effect. That's always going to be a possibility no matter what.

Do you ever go driving, and think "Holy **** maybe if I take a different turn a convoluted series of events will bring about a totally undesirable future!"

Probably not. Just as likely right now as it would be if you were time traveling.

Yeah i'd rather if people would stop ******* with the middle east and remove muslim extremists from there.

Basically it's just doing it before we can see it. Anything faster than the speed of light is considered time travel, since we can't see or hear it while it happens. I'm 100% sure we'll never be able to go back in time, but we may be able to go several minutes into the future

well, they're both fiction. We don't really know what would happen since nobody has done it... as far as we know...
If you like time travel movies and have a lot of free time to go through forums to understand what the **** you just watched, I highly recommend "Primer".

I think you mean soundofwinter.

I always see time travel this way: If time travel would ever happen, then anything they would do would have happened already(or the future would change when they changed it). Therefore anything that would happen, is set to happen. The idea that the story from TSoT could happen is laughable to me. The changes that occured to elect the new fuhrer-type ****** would have existed all along. Therefore the idea that the hunters would experience the changes doesn't make sense.

There is no such thing about the butterfly effect. Everything that could have happened has already never happened. If someone actually does go back into time, you'd return to the same reality in the present than when you left. If you where to span other dimensions (according to the multiverse theory) you would likely find dimensions that you had never chosen to go back into time in.

I could draw you a picture if you wish.

There is such thing as the butterfly effect. As in the actual butterfly effect, not the ****** movie version you're thinking of.

Please do. At least you're not a sarcastic and an ass. Those movies had some scary outcome so that'd be cool if you can disprove it.

If you change past, present stays same, but future change?

What if I go eat a lot, then I go poop a lot. I go back in time and stop myself eating a lot, then I go to the present where I am pooping. Wouldn't that change the present? Because I told myself not to eat a lot so no food means no poop. Wouldn't that happen?

I use this example because I'm about to eat spaghetti and I feel my stomach ready to erupt.

wait.. the end says the past changes. I'm sorry. That is incorrect. The future changes, but yeahh.

If you look though, the photon is returning to it's original starting point, not going back further. All it's doing is looping through the same course the can only be measured in Plank Time.

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Quote an Ashton Kutcher movie and a Sci-Fi original.... yeahh you have the basic knowledge to judge something.

I didn't quote anything, nor did I say I have a basic knowledge of it. I'm just saying that I watched those movies and they seem scary possibilities.

Never let a fictitious tail dictate your opinions, my friend. That's one of the worst problems going on with mankind right now.