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#15 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
Why is everyone so obsessed with trying to prove god is not real and that the universe was just a random freak accident. Seriously where did the laws of nature come from without a creator to do the math. If you believe in spontaneous life from inorganic material you should really do more research on the subject. No one has ever created life without using life. I understand that religion is a hard thing to accept when you listen to people telling you that it is illogical and all war comes from it, but jesus only preached about peace and loving one another. Even an atheist should agree that it is a good lesson. Even if you have a hard time accepting "faith" you should still try and read the bible for the message that it carries. I know a lot of people believe that christians try and scare people into believing, many do, but the bible doesn't. It even mentions in the bible about how many of the things from the old testament were strictly for that time period, not for today. I'm tired of the bible getting such a bad rap because everyone thinks it has been disproven. It hasn't. Not one thing in the bible contradicts science. Genesis literally tells exactly how the universe was made in terms that even a scientist would agree on. I know that people like to credit christians as being stupid, but it's simply not the case. Atheism is also a belief system. It takes a lot of hope and pessimism to look up to the stars and think that it was random. You know that gas is invisible because it is still a substance, but what is it that makes something real? My idea of god is that he is everything, he is all substance and material in one body. God is the universe and everything beyond it that we have yet to observe. I do not use the god of the gaps argument because I realize that god cannot leave gaps. If it is god's omnipresence that is intimidating you need to realize that you can't compare the infinite to the finite. Think of a cell, it does what it does without your consent.
#140 to #15 - anonymous (08/16/2013) [-]
I am christian, and i agree with you, but just keep it to yourself. Or else things like this will happen. But this content wasn't really offending anyways, it wasn't trying to prove God's exsistance wrong, it was just taking something that looked like it would end in a God post and added a funny little twist.
#143 to #140 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
yeah i know, I liked the picture. I didn't however like the comments. Seriously it's like funnyjunk is becoming an atheist's only club. I just didn't want to call anyone out in their comment. so I made my own to vent my frustration. I figured I would get red thumbs (not so many lol) but as a christian I felt compelled to speak up against intolerance. I would do the same for an atheist if a christian was doing it to him. I don't like people thinking someone else is lesser for believing in something that could very well be true. even if its someone who has faith that god doesn't exist. I do believe however that everyone should at least read the new testament. Jesus had some really good points about morality that I have never came accross outside of the bible.
User avatar #121 to #15 - juppaware (08/16/2013) [-]
Hey. I'd just like to make the point that Atheism isn't believing that everything came about through randomness. Atheism is about understanding and appreciating the fact that we don't know how the universe was created. It very well could have been made by god. But standing form a scientific perspective i's incredibly unlikely. Also, a good teaching and a religion you can have faith in are two completely separate things. And whilst I do believe that some messages of the bible are good lessons to be learnt but are nothing special compered to what good parenting, counseling or school education could do.
#136 to #121 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
nah, that's not atheism, if you think that god might be real, thats agnostic. Atheists deny gods existence altogether. Good parenting came from religion. Where do you think people learned morals? You can be an atheist and still have them, but if you trace your morals back far enough you will most likely come across religion. I know it seems like science has made religion unlikely, but it really hasn't. It's darwins half baked idea about evolution that brought religion into question. I'm not denying forms of evolution, I know that a new breed can be made by crossing animals, and I even agree that animals adapt to survive. I don't agree however that there isn't a design to it all. Even if it turns out that life can be generated from minerals (which has yet to be proven) I will still say it doesn't disprove god. The bible literally says that he made us out of the dirt. wtf do atheist think that means if not exactly what they are trying to prove?....I know atheists look at christians as morons because some think the earth is young. but the bible doesn't really say it is. Who knows how long a day is to god?. Was he going by our sun? the seven days of creation could easily have been a few billion years. the time frame is not important. The important part is life ended up becoming an intelligent man, and for as long as man has been around, the idea about god has been around. Some of these old stories could be a fairy tale. but its hard to look at every single religion and not wonder why there are similarities when the religions supposedly originated on different continents. The story of the flood is told by many different religions. also, older cultures talked about dragons, but scientists still insist that dinosaurs and man never walked side by side. I wonder how some scientists don't get curious why people talked about giant reptiles if dinosaurs were long gone. Honestly it makes me wonder how accurate carbon dating really is.
User avatar #166 to #136 - juppaware (08/16/2013) [-]
Unfortunately, the fact that you keep switching to different topics makes it hard for me to reply. However, I will try my best. I would first like to point out that you did not acknowledge or make a point about my reference to your "good lessons" idea. Furthermore, the fact that you state Darwin's theory did not disprove the bible, and while this is true it did disprove some of the tails told by the bible, making it progressively harder to believe in the bible whilst distinguishing fact from tail. As for the idea that many religions share the same ideas is due to the fact that many of these religions were born from one another. For example, Christianity was born out of Judaism. Also many prophets, monks, pharaohs priests etc... Crossed oceans to preach stories of their religion intertwining them with others or converting them completely. As a result we see many hybrid religions, resulting in man share stories and tails. Also, with your reference to people seeing "reptiles" although dino's were billions of years ago is simply sue to the fact that people are creative. I mean all you have to do is look around at some creativity - ghosts, ghouls, monsters, orcs, mutants, zombies.
#169 to #166 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I don't disagree with most of what you just said. You could very easily be right about man's creativity being the cornerstone of religion (it's debateable, but still a theory) but I believe devout religion makes people more humane towards one another. It's hard to try and win god's approval in christianity without being loving and kind to one another. I agree that christianity and judaism are about the same, only real difference is that judaism says that christ has not came back yet, and christians believe that he did a long time ago, but either way the lessons from jesus should be read by all parties. I'm not fighting strictly for the bible when I say some moral lessons should be learned by everyone. I think that people should just love one another, I don't care what they believe as long as they fight for the prosperity of all people. I fight for christianity because I don't want it talked down about without a reason, but i'm sure atheists feel the same way about their faith. No one wants their beliefs brought into question, but I think it's best to pursue the teachings of the bible more than it is to pursue the faith. Many christians miss this point and call themselves christians without following any of the teachings...they are the ones who give our religion a bad name, but no one is perfect. I am just a man like any other. I make mistakes and I screw up. I look to the bible to help me be a kinder person. I don't find that to be a bad thing.
#111 to #15 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
you've got 99 problems but a green thumb aint one
User avatar #108 to #15 - mcmg (08/15/2013) [-]
>I understand that religion is a hard thing to accept when you listen to people telling you that it is illogical and all war comes from it, but jesus only preached about peace and loving one another.

Okay, sure, Jesus said peace. Religion does not ******* practice peace. They preach and practice hate and bigotry. And religion does cost most of the wars...

>Even an atheist should agree that it is a good lesson.

>Even if you have a hard time accepting "faith" you should still try and read the bible for the message that it carries.

Rape, Incest, Misogyny, Homophobia, Slavery, and Child Abuse are -according to the Bible- perfectly fine. No. No an atheist does and should not agree that religion teaches a good lesson. Christians tend promote hypocrisy because very few of them actually follow the bible (Don't eat shrimp, cause if you eat it you're going to Hell; Leviticus 11:9-12) like they want to make other people follow the parts they like.

>I know that people like to credit christians as being stupid, but it's simply not the case. Atheism is also a belief system.

>You know that gas is invisible because it is still a substance, but what is it that makes something real?

Yes, it is the case. And no, Atheism is not a belief system. Most atheists can test what they know. What we believe if testable. We can see gas, measure it, etc

>If it is god's omnipresence that is intimidating you need to realize that you can't compare the infinite to the finite.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then, he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then, he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
- Epricus (33 A.D.)

Tl;Dr? Your argument makes my head hurt/is pretty stupid.

However, I applaud you for having the faith you have, but not for trying to make arguments for ignorance. You use Faith as a masquerade for ignorance, hate, and bigotry. And there is nothing I detest more.
User avatar #104 to #15 - acidreign (08/15/2013) [-]
**** you helium is so chill
#102 to #15 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
you uneducated piece of **** , LEAVE HELIUM ALONE
#97 to #15 - thesinful (08/15/2013) [-]
God is everything and all matter. So what you're saying is, I 						****					 god.
God is everything and all matter. So what you're saying is, I **** god.
User avatar #93 to #15 - rainbowrush (08/15/2013) [-]
>No one has created life without using life.

Either you're saying there is no God, or that God is a no one.
#87 to #15 - brettyht (08/15/2013) [-]
What if you just don't really care if there is a god or not?   
   
I mean, if he is real, I don't think he would have a problem with the way I live my life and I will thank him/her for it all when I meet him/her.   
   
If not, then It honestly doesn't affect me considering that I am completely happy with the way I live my life right now.
What if you just don't really care if there is a god or not?

I mean, if he is real, I don't think he would have a problem with the way I live my life and I will thank him/her for it all when I meet him/her.

If not, then It honestly doesn't affect me considering that I am completely happy with the way I live my life right now.

#88 to #87 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
Believe what you want to believe. It is your choice. I'm just tired of people bashing each other. A smart atheist knows that the bible might be true, and a smart christian recognizes that it could be wrong, but still has a good message.
#101 to #88 - brettyht (08/15/2013) [-]
I think if you had simply said that you would have gotten a lot less hate, because I completely agree with the comment you just made. Your first comment was more of a challenge/insult to most readers, because you missed every single ideal that most atheists, or just non Christians have and then judged them on it. And I am not judging your beliefs, just how you are presenting them. It isnt a very ideal way.
I think if you had simply said that you would have gotten a lot less hate, because I completely agree with the comment you just made. Your first comment was more of a challenge/insult to most readers, because you missed every single ideal that most atheists, or just non Christians have and then judged them on it. And I am not judging your beliefs, just how you are presenting them. It isnt a very ideal way.
#160 to #101 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I think everyone just misunderstood what I meant, and it got worse from then on.
#85 to #15 - hitlersgayabortion (08/15/2013) [-]
you're just awful you know that?
#83 to #15 - furiousmarshmellow ONLINE (08/15/2013) [-]
Over-reacting, aren't we?
User avatar #79 to #15 - enkmaster (08/15/2013) [-]
Every single point you made was wrong.

Js.
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#89 to #79 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
Not one thing I said was wrong, but you are free to believe who you choose. just be civil about it.
User avatar #91 to #89 - enkmaster (08/15/2013) [-]
"No one has ever created life without using life."
Yes, they have. Test have been done that recreated the atmosphere of Early Earth in a test tube ad ran an electric current through it. What formed was amino acids; the building blocks of life.

Thats just one point
#57 to #15 - Grom (08/15/2013) [-]
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#55 to #15 - holololland (08/15/2013) [-]
mfw reading this
mfw reading this
User avatar #53 to #15 - rosette **User deleted account** (08/15/2013) [-]
Yeah I love the lessons of loving in the bible.
Like in Leviticus when it says to stone anyone to death anyone that blasphemes god. And when it also says that a woman does not own her own body, but the husband does.
My favourite quote : "If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity."

The bible also bans : Round haircuts, pulling out, tattoos, divorce, and shellfish.
User avatar #64 to #53 - danniegurl ONLINE (08/15/2013) [-]
Did you not read the part about how many of these laws were only for the old testament?
Jesus came to forgive our sins, and thus many of these rules became moot.
#67 to #64 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
FOR THESE ARE GOD RULES! YOU SHALL FOLLOW THEM OR ELSE!

*Jesus is born*

Lol JK they were too harsh, you only have to give your $ to the church and all is K.
User avatar #71 to #67 - danniegurl ONLINE (08/15/2013) [-]
You don't have to go to a church to be Christian, nor do you have to pay money.
#49 to #15 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
>trying to justify believing in the sky man that your parents made you believe
#94 to #49 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
My mother was an atheist who smoked cigarettes rolled with bible pages and my father never pressured me into religion. I denied it for most of my life and focused on science until I actually read it. I know you want to impress your atheist friends but you really should read it friend. the fact that you called him a sky man proves you have not read into it very deeply. feel free to thumb me down, but please read it. Even if it is a reading to try and find the things you don't agree with.
#46 to #15 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
That's a bit harsh. I mean, there are plenty of horribly prejudiced and intolerant posts on this site, but this one is completely accurate. It just toys with you a bit by contradicting your initial assumptions.
#95 to #46 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
I know that it wasn't that bad, but I've seen so many atheist jokes on this site i've gotten tired of it. I'm not an uptight christian or anything, i'm just really not feeling a lot of love from the atheist community on here and I don't like it. They act like science disproved the bible years ago when it really hasn't.
#45 to #15 - vaulttec (08/15/2013) [-]
"If you believe in spontaneous life from inorganic material you should really do more research on the subject."

Yet you're trying to tell me a creator came out of thin air so to speak and made the universe
#96 to #45 - hellbird (08/15/2013) [-]
Science says that the whole universe came out of nothingness in a random accident in which all natural law was created and enforced indefinitely. I don't find it hard to make a leap from one thing to the other.
User avatar #80 to #45 - rockamekishiko ONLINE (08/15/2013) [-]
it's ultimately the same **** . matter came out of thin air if you go back to origins. where the hell did particles come from?
#84 to #80 - omniscientreason (08/15/2013) [-]
the big bang you twat. which there are many theories as to why it happened and how, these theories are better than ever having faith. the definition of faith is literally believing in something without evidence. Only ignorants do that.
#127 to #84 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not sure where you got your definition of faith, but that isn't really right. You have faith that your theories are right, I have faith that mine are. I know you're about to point out "no religion has no evidence" but don't do that, just read it and you will realize that the bible teaches a lot of very good moral values. Just think about what "infinite" means. there can be many things existing inside of infinity, but there can only be one everything. I'm not saying that there is only one universe, I'm talking about the grand total of everything. Just like you would consider every living thing on earth a part of it, who is to say that everything isn't a part of one thing that is god. Jesus tells us that we live in god, not figuratively, but literally. I don't see how science and religion contradict on that. I want to hope that someday the two will come together, but I read revelations. It doesn't end so nicely. I don't try and use scare tactics to force people into my religion, but I don't like the idea that someone would burn in hell either. So i'll take red thumbs and a whole lot of hate to try and get you to read one chapter of the bible with an open mind. If you want a good starting place go with "matthew" that is the one that talks about jesus. I think it would help you to be a nicer person if you at least read that much.
#131 to #127 - omniscientreason (08/16/2013) [-]
www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=30ffd9a6e4fc7be2&q=faith+definition READ ***** REAAAAD. I have read a bible brah, when i was like 10, I accordingly came to the consensus that it was ******** , also what makes YOUR bible different then any other holy book? They all just claim to have one god, but they are all different religions. Er take a world religions class? ******* I appreshi-tate that you want me to learn and that you would take the time to force me to think about something from another perspective, but maybe you should take into consideration that you need to do just that and bring forth some evidence to convince with it because faith isnt going to prove it to anyone who has learned how to agree with whats the truth and whats not properly.
#134 to #131 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
One mistake is that you thought you would be able to comprehend the entire bible while you were 10, you aren't rain man. That is a nice atheistic view of faith, but not a religious one. Faith comes through reading and understanding the bible. Especially the prophecy. My view of other religion is that they were all based on fallen angels. Thats why Zeus was such a douche. The bible actually talks about the origins of other religions if you actually did read it. Many of the old "gods" were just offspring of woman and fallen angels. Those dudes stuck it in anything they could find. I had a hard time understanding how a horse man could exist when I was younger until I did further research into what scientists are able to do with technology nowadays. If I believe in angels I can't very well believe they were too dumb to do what we know how to do. I'm not telling you "dude, trust me. I got a good feeling about this book". i'm telling you that the book has a very good message that even a atheist should understand. If you did take that message to hard you wouldn't be so rude to someone who is only asking you to read a book. I didn't say jump off a bridge.
#138 to #134 - omniscientreason (08/16/2013) [-]
Your ignorance is insulting to your human species. This conversation is over. Good luck on your journey to rationality my friend, I wish you the best.
#141 to #138 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I like your picture. It proves that atheists love to regurgitate anything another atheist says. You must not know much about jesus if you think god does it for praise. God wants us to love him because he loves us. Seriously, he created us, and wants us to call him father. We weren't meant to be the sinful creatures that we are today, we were meant to live forever with him in bliss. but satan came along and messed that up for us. He doesn't want us to suffer with sin. Jesus said that the devil corrupted the seed of man and god longs for us to return to him, but sense satan gave us knowledge of evil, we also gained temptation. Thats why adam and eve were shamed for being naked after eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. I know you like to think christians are stupid, but look how much happier they are then their atheist brothers. I'm not saying all atheists are heavy sinners, honestly i'm glad atheists don't believe in god. If they knew he existed and then denied him, that would be a fate worse than hell, if you don't believe me look up what the unforgivable sin is. You can't deny god if you know him, thats why he kicked satan out when he thought about mutiny. I know a lot of the stories in the bible are very fairy tale sounding considering we have never seen anything supernatural in real life, but the message in the bible is still a very good one. Love your fellow man like you love yourself and you can believe whatever you want to. Do not place obstacles in someone else's path. Thats really the major point of the bible. Faith is encouraged, but you will never be able to a real faith without trying to live by that rule.
#142 to #141 - omniscientreason (08/16/2013) [-]
Think about iiit.
#145 to #142 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I don't see why everyone thinks hell is all about fire and brimstone. Its a place where atheists go for denying christ. They go there because the only way to god is through christ. You must believe that he was a real man who died for us and was resurrected by gods will. God sent christ to fix the stuff that satan messed up. I'll be honest, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that god created everything. It's no less confusing than "BANG, who ordered an extra large universe with no meaning whatsoever?" souls go to hell for being evil to one another, if a person is ignorant about the bible and still acts lovingly towards his fellow man, he isn't going to go to hell. The bible talks about how god put his seeds on the earth (seed of man) and the devil came and threw weeds amongst them (seed of satan). The way god says to check which side a person is on is to ask them about jesus. If they deny everything about Christ's divinity instead of "i'm not sure, it could be true". they are going to hell. end of story. but no logical atheist should ever do that if he knows that it can't be proven either way. As long as you treat your fellow man with love and kindness, and do not decide that christ was never sent by god, you should be fine. As for everything happening by god's will, what do you think time is? It's already been shown that time is relative. so the future must already exist. I'm not sure if free will is the right word, but you can't know god's plan for you, so you might as well call it free will. God is the ever present moment that you live in. think about what science has proved. space and time are the same thing. meaning gravity is part of time. which also means that all matter is also part of time. With that in mind, tell me what you would call that one thing in which everything exists inside. Christians call it god. Atheists call it the universe. Eather way, free will is an illusion.
#157 to #145 - omniscientreason (08/16/2013) [-]
Ive heard just about enough of your retarded beliefs as I can handle. please stop replying. Gods not real dude. Its ok. Jesus isnt real. Its all good. If there is a god out there i look foreward to it being found and proven to exist with science and reason. Your religion and any other religion is not contributing to that.
#159 to #157 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
"jesus isn't real". Jesus has been proven as being a real person. There is more than enough evidence to prove it if you would just look for it. I know you want to believe that , but It doesn't end with science believing in god, it ends with everyone deciding that the bible is false and turning to a life of sin. you can believe it or not believe it, but thats what the book says. The last days on earth are supposed to be like the days of noah, and there is supposed to be a great increase in mans intelligence, also Israel had to become a nation again. check, check, check. wheres your checklist for atheism? also because I imagine you haven't read the bible, the days of noah were talked about as being pretty much like our society is becoming. the bible is very clear on the fact that man should not mess with gene's, In the days of noah the fallen angels made many different combinations of animals (take a look at all the old myths about half horse half man people or similar things) after that, go look what scientists are doing with animals. I know I sound like a crazy christian, I would think so too before I read the bible and knew what I was talking about. also, why do you keep quoting atheists who have nothing to do with anything. that middle quote about praying is a direct contradiction to how the bible tells us to pray. we are supposed to have faith that god will do what is best for us, and that he knows what we need. We are supposed to use the lords prayer, which is really hard to mess up. Stop quoting people who are only out to try and disprove christianity because they dislike christians. If you ever actually listened to richard dawkins you should know that he has no idea about what he's talking about (if you read the bible first, if not, i'm sorry for your choice in lectures) I don't get how christians are called illogical when you are the one who doesn't know what he is talking about. I'm glad you know how to use google to find an image though.
#161 to #159 - omniscientreason (08/16/2013) [-]
I highly recommend you check yourself into a psychiatric ward. Look all ******** aside your like just ok with it lol...thats what im upset about. You believe in your god cool whatever I dont care, but when your say the apocalypse is gonna happen...you're ok with it. You are ok with worshipping a god who lets hell exist and is ok with killing his children all of his children and then completly ok with letting some of them burn for eternity just because they dont believe he exists. Thats not ok. You are an immoral person. If your god is real, then I will do everything in my power to kill our father because he is not worthy of his title...I was supposed to have 2 kids but they were miscarried. People have been raped and murdered in atrocious ways in mass genocides for years and will be infinitely. He gives us life and tests us for a short time to judge us for enternity? See I have no problem with a god existing, what I will not stand for is someone like you telling me to praise something so entirly corrupt. I hope you're apocalypse happens, and when its my turn to be judged I will tear out your gods throat for all his crimes against his creations. If you were god...you wouldnt let these terrible things happen. Your god gets no exceptions. Wheres his mass telepathic device at? put me on the phone because me and millions of others of people who have been utterly ****** over because of your imaginary friend would like to have a little chat. I never asked to be born or to be able to feel the emotions im capable of, in fact id of rather not been given the chance to have free will if it ment that hell would be a side effect. Kindly **** off into a hermit hole where your incredibly ridiculous and insane ideals will not have to be heard by those worthy of bearing the human dna which makes them sentient.
#164 to #161 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm sorry for you loss. I don't wish to reply to your hate filled comment though. I hope someday you can read the bible and see it the way that I do.
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#112 to #84 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
Just for future reference ignorant is an adjective.
#82 to #80 - vaulttec (08/15/2013) [-]
I know it's the same ****

I never said it wasn't

I'm saying that he's trying to prove someone else wrong with a reason that is a flaw in his own logic
User avatar #44 to #15 - kallesyndrom (08/15/2013) [-]
u is faget lel haha xd
#43 to #15 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
Care to explain how your 'God' came into existence?
Care to explain how 'Faith' is a valid reason for something being there or not?
Care to explain how the bible HASN'T been dis-proven?
Care to explain how Helium hasn't been proven to be a key element in the creation of the Universe?
Care to explain why I should believe what you do when you obviously do not have enough proof to convince very large amount of the worlds population?
#128 to #43 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
What part about "alpha and omega" do you not understand? He was the beginning, before him time didn't exist. In the bible it talks about how god experiences time. That is why he is considered "ever present".
I don't believe in faith, I believe in the bible because it proves itself if you actually read it. It proves with prophecy. If you read revelations and take a look at the news, you might become a believer too. Care to explain how it has been disproven? I'm not saying that helium isn't important. You missed my point. I was trying to get people to back off of all the hate. I can see that the average person is starting to doubt christianity and in the bible it says that when people turn against religion the world will end. I don't really like the idea of you going to hell, or anyone else for that matter. The hardest part about religion is trying to prove it. Jesus isn't here and all we have is a book. Imagine going back in time 300 years and trying to prove to someone that a computer can exist without knowing how to build one.
#42 to #15 - aviators (08/15/2013) [-]
"Hellbird" lol hell, just thought it was kind of funny.    
   
Also, i don't really think this is a time to be posting that, seeing as how the content actually is true (not bashing religion as not being true, never said that)   
   
I just believe people should enjoy their lives regardless of what lies beyond, and people will always disagree with you, suck it up.    
   
If you believe it is right, believe that. don't go "look this is right!"    
   
But there is proof that the the right molecules met at the right time and caused an explosion.    
   
Just as there could be an omnipotent being who led those two molecules to meet.   
   
To me, religion has a cooler background than "explosion" because it also gives video game creators/ storyborders like what i'm aspiring to do more creative freedom in the worlds they create.   
   
TL;DR Religion gives storyboarders a good background to base stories off of.   
   
Also, pic, just for you.
"Hellbird" lol hell, just thought it was kind of funny.

Also, i don't really think this is a time to be posting that, seeing as how the content actually is true (not bashing religion as not being true, never said that)

I just believe people should enjoy their lives regardless of what lies beyond, and people will always disagree with you, suck it up.

If you believe it is right, believe that. don't go "look this is right!"

But there is proof that the the right molecules met at the right time and caused an explosion.

Just as there could be an omnipotent being who led those two molecules to meet.

To me, religion has a cooler background than "explosion" because it also gives video game creators/ storyborders like what i'm aspiring to do more creative freedom in the worlds they create.

TL;DR Religion gives storyboarders a good background to base stories off of.

Also, pic, just for you.
#125 to #42 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I picked the name "hellbird" when I was still an atheist lol. and i'm not meaning to bash atheism, I just want atheists to stop bashing religion so much. It's not even about the religion really, I just dislike how much negativity each side has for one another. I would love to hear from atheists that have actually read and comprehended the bible, but that is very rare. I know that this post wasn't anti-religion really, but the comments were. I didn't want to call anyone in particular out on it since I knew it would be an argument I would loose with as many atheists as there are on this site. so I decided to stand out and take the red thumbs to make a statement.
User avatar #151 to #125 - enkmaster (08/16/2013) [-]
Yes, you are bashing Atheism. I just read all the posts you've made to people in response to your OP, and its just been various reiterations of "you're wrong. You dont understand it. Atheists are going to Hell", then you're saying "stop victimizing Christianity."
#154 to #151 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I haven't said atheists are wrong for not thinking god is real, they are wrong for completely denying that the bible might be true with a lack of evidence. that's the same reason i'm not going to come right out and say "atheists be damned, religion is right and you are wrong". I call myself a christian because I follow the teachings, not because I know for a fact that it is true.
#33 to #15 - jaaaapie (08/15/2013) [-]
Completely agree with you.
#129 to #33 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
Thank you.
#31 to #15 - RAPxMASTER (08/15/2013) [-]
Why is everyone so obsessed with proving God exists?
Why is everyone so obsessed with proving God exists?
#130 to #31 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm not obsessed with proving he exists, I'm just tired of people saying its been proven that he doesn't. Think about it like this. Doesn't it really get on your nerves when an obnoxious christian shoots down science with no evidence to back up his claims? I know science has a lot of great and interesting information, but they haven't disproven anything about god. Sometimes I feel like i'm supposed to keep my scientific knowledge secret from some christians, but I don't want to do that for athiests. I really believe in the bible and I don't want anybody going to hell. Also, don't take that as a scare tactic. All I really know about hell is that there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Honestly I don't think hell will be THAT bad, it will just be a place where sin is allowed to run rampant...Think about that for a second, do you really want to live in a place where everybody sins all the time? would you like your mother or sister around a bunch of men who aren't afraid of going to hell for raping them? I know that people can have morals without "religion". but I don't think they would keep them if they knew that they were already in hell.
User avatar #152 to #130 - enkmaster (08/16/2013) [-]
Considering some of the greatest people in history undoubtedly ended up in Hell foe denying christ, and apparently that sends you to hell, im not worried.

as the old saying goes "Fear not hell, for if it exists, you shall find yourself in good company"
#156 to #152 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
when I say denying christ, I mean openly saying that christ is a fairy tale after reading the book. Christs resurrection is the point of salvation for christians, but to someone who hasn't read the book, he might as well be a fairy tale. He shouldn't however be denied. his life on earth is a documented fact. If you deny that jesus was a real person, you are pretty much asking for it.
#155 to #152 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I don't know of any great people who openly denied christ. I do know of someone who had an intense hatred for jews and murdered millions of them. History has a lot of people like that. You can believe hell is gonna be in good company if you want to, but not if you consider who all is going.
User avatar #144 to #130 - RAPxMASTER (08/16/2013) [-]
For one, it does sound like you are using hell as a scare tactic. As for trying to prove he exists, in your comment you talk as if you know FOR A FACT, that he exists. The thing is no one can prove it exists. I for one believe God does not, and I believe there is no Hell, or Heaven. I don't believe in anything like that, when I die, I'll believe it just ends, it'd be like before we were born, nothing at all, we're just gone. As for men raping or whatever, I believe plenty of priests and such do that do, yet they are suppost to believe in all that.
#147 to #144 - teenytinyspider (08/16/2013) [-]
And how do you feel believing that once you die there is nothing? I seriously would like to know. Are you at peace with that?
User avatar #167 to #147 - RAPxMASTER (08/16/2013) [-]
I'm perfectly fine with it. As to me, heaven, and hell, would be boring and awful. I'm quite happy with it being as if nothing is there, I wouldn't even be aware I was dead after I died, I'm content and happy with that belief.
#168 to #167 - teenytinyspider (08/16/2013) [-]
I see. Thanks for answering.
#146 to #144 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I know it sounds like one, but I just want you to think about what "sin" is. I never said churches today were a shining example of what a christians should be. the bible forbids what the pedo priests do. I also want to point out that no one really knows that much about hell. jesus said weeping and gnashing of teeth. but to be honest that sounds about right if you consider how it would feel to die and then come back looking at god and all his glory, and then not getting to be with him in spirit. I'd be weeping and grinding my teeth too if that happened. It would be like going to a party and having to stand outside the gate because you didn't have an invitation. It might not be so bad outside, but it would be much better inside. I talk about christianity because I believe it, but nothing has been proven or disproven. I just know that many people haven't read the book and maybe if they see what i'm saying they will take in interest to find out what i'm talking about. If an atheist tells me something he finds interesting I would respect him enough to do research on the subject. Atheists aren't stupid, they are just as smart as christians. We are all people with the same kinda brains and the same kinda human ideas. I started reading the bible to learn who jesus was. thats it. I read what he had to say and I realized that he knew what he was talking about. I've never even heard an atheist say that jesus was a moron. He had a dang good message that everyone should hear, atheist or christian. even if you can't believe in the bible, at least try and take a lesson from it. I don't feel ashamed to listen to an atheist if he thinks i'm out of line, I think that should go both ways. No one should deny that the bible might be truth without evidence, and as little as christians like to admit it, we are encouraged to respect everyones opinion, and we are not to judge anyone for what they believe. We should however preach the message. love one another as you love yourself.
#36 to #31 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
Why are you so obsessed with proving he doesn't
User avatar #38 to #36 - RAPxMASTER (08/15/2013) [-]
Because that is what I believe, as everyone has an opinion. Something that people like you typically don't understand/
#50 to #38 - anonymous (08/15/2013) [-]
He can answer your question the same way.
#78 to #50 - rakoom (08/15/2013) [-]
Except for that RAP didn't try to prove that he didn't, and thus it's impossible to reply with the same question. Simple.
User avatar #18 to #15 - gorgannan **User deleted account** (08/15/2013) [-]
I am a theist, but that is one wall of text.
#149 to #18 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
yeah, it's a lot....I type fast so I lose track of how much i'm actually saying really quick. but to be fair, I doubt that most people who thumbed me down actually read it lol
#17 to #15 - teenytinyspider (08/15/2013) [-]
This is the wrong place to be posting something like that.
#132 to #17 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I knew it was, but how would you feel if this was a christian website and everybody sat around talking about how stupid atheists are. I used to really like funnyjunk, but it seems like I only run into angry atheists on here nowadays. I have no problem with atheism, or even anti-christian jokes. I just think it got old a long time ago.
#148 to #132 - teenytinyspider (08/16/2013) [-]
Yeah, I know, but not many here want to read it. You gotta remember this site is mostly full of 12-16-year-olds still in school.
#150 to #148 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
Good point. but a lot of kids today are taught at a young age that the bible is a fairy tale and almost shunned for reading it. They hear from all of their atheist friends about how stupid christians are and they decide to jump on the bandwagon straight to hell. If you don't believe me take a look at how many red thumbs I got just for making a point.
User avatar #153 to #150 - enkmaster (08/16/2013) [-]
Actually, you got red thumbs for being a preachy cunt about it. You went all "its true, just accpet it" on everyone whereas if you had said "I believe this but you can believe what you want" and hadnt been a disrespectful, passive aggressive ass about it you wouldve probably been thumbed up.
#158 to #153 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
What part about "my opinion about god" do you consider atheist bashing. I said nothin like "its true, just accept it" My point was that no one has disproven anything, so it would be foolish to deny its possibility. just like it would be foolish for a christian to say science is evil. You want my opinion i'll give it, atheism is idiocy because it is a belief with no definitive evidence. Science and atheism aren't the same thing, an atheist will interpret it how he wants to, and a christian will interpret it how he wants to. No evidence has ever proven either case. Christians do however have a book with a really good moral lesson that helps them to be a better person. (unless you think we shouldn't love one another?) I choose to believe christianity because it helps me to be a better person. I have a reason, what's yours? did someone tell you something about how stupid the bible was, or did you read it and disagree? you need to recognize that atheism is a religion without a god. It takes just as much faith to believe there is no creator as it takes to believe that there is. Unless you can prove christianity wrong, which I encourage you to do. make me look like a fool. tell me all the things in the bible that have been proven wrong, I'll wait, I know it's a big book. In the same way I can't make you look like a fool because I can't disprove that there isn't a god. but I do know that I love the message the bible offers. what good does atheism do for you? do you feel that it makes you more intelligent to agree with other atheists or do you really have a reason for not believing?
User avatar #165 to #158 - enkmaster (08/16/2013) [-]
Atheism isnt a "religion without a god". Atheism is, at its core, a lack of religion. Atheism is not a religion, since the entire concept of Atheism is the lack of religion.

What reason do I have to follow Atheism? The simple reason is that I prefer to base my life on my own morals and what I know for sure. If im wrong, and there is a god, Ill be rewarded for being a good person. If im punished for not worshiping him, then hes not a God I would want to follow anyway.


Dont get me wrong, im a pro-religion person, despite my own belief. Religion is good. Religion gives people something to believe in, and I can appreciate that. Its when powerful, organised religions refuse to evolve along with science and society that I have a problem. It keeps many of its followers ignorant, and that is something I cannot support.
#170 to #165 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I agree with you. but I still feel that atheism is still a belief system until all the cards are on the table and everyone knows for sure what the truth is. I still say it's good to know the morals that jesus taught, I have yet to find a better description of how a person should act. I believe the bible because of the prophecy's that have became true in recent years. Honestly I was terrified when Obama came on the news asking for "peace and security" over and over. (i'm not sure if you have read revelations, but it isn't a good sign lol) I don't want to disagree with anything you are saying. You sound like I did before I started reading the bible. I thought god was a douche for sending people to hell, but then I realize that god isn't going to send a good man to hell. Jesus told us to love one another and treat each other how we want to be treated. I didn't hear him keep saying follow the commandments. Those were for the old testament, and they really seem like a longer explanation of what it would mean to treat each other how we want to be treated. If god does turn out being real, and i make it into heaven. You can be sure i'll be at his throne every moment asking him to let the good ones in, and don't torment the bad ones.
User avatar #16 to #15 - hazths (08/15/2013) [-]
I just wanted to post a post about helium
#133 to #16 - hellbird (08/16/2013) [-]
I wasn't knocking your post really. It was the religion bashing comments that I posted about.
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