Free will. Something I've been pondering.. Actually you can't predict everything no matter how much data you gather. Quantum fluctuations are truly random. The most basic particles of matter have an inhe
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Something I've been pondering

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User avatar #6 - traveltech ONLINE (02/22/2013) [+] (7 replies)
Actually you can't predict everything no matter how much data you gather. Quantum fluctuations are truly random. The most basic particles of matter have an inherent randomness, at least as far as we understand them.
#71 - 4chan refugee (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I want you to research two things:
1. Second law of thermodynamics
2. Basics of quantum physics

Then you will find out that you are wrong.
#60 - Coolstorybroseph (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
But can you see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
User avatar #91 - ichooseslowpoke (02/22/2013) [-]
But do you know why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?!?
#84 - myhumps (02/22/2013) [+] (2 replies)
So by that logic, if an asian person can calculate every single aspect of your brain, they can read your mind?
User avatar #26 - killingsin (02/22/2013) [-]
And then quantum mechanics come along and just ruin everything with it's dammed randomness.
#78 - 4chan refugee (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I remember thinking about this when I was about eight or so.
#73 - infinitereaper (02/22/2013) [+] (2 replies)
Yeah, sure, assuming our perception of reality isn't inherently flawed and entirely correct to to begin with.

Measurability, our human definition that is-may be incorrect as to the reality. See, we are limited by these bodies would generate understanding as an afterthought. The true nature of truth and universe is likely far behind our completely pathetic concepts. For it is our concepts that are derived from brains that the universe or reality doesn't necessary have to have designed in a way that makes them capable of understanding the world it exists in... so to speak.

Basically, all of this logic is bound by the human machine which is probably flawed. Thus flawed logic and flawed conclusions. Meaning most of this jargon is nothing but speculation that is very likely incorrect.

TL;DR Stupid post.
#20 - 4chan refugee (02/22/2013) [-]
TL;DR.

Take it to Tumblr, oh wise philosopher.
#80 - lavitts (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Why, Mr. Anderson? Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something? For more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know? Is it freedom? Or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson. Vagaries of perception. The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson. You must know it by now. You can't win. It's pointless to keep fighting. Why, Mr. Anderson, Why? Why do you persist?
#106 - karlossacramento (02/23/2013) [+] (1 reply)
heisenbergs uncertainty principle, a natural law, look it up
User avatar #100 - craftyatom (02/23/2013) [-]
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle!
Electrons act erratically, and x-ray radiation from black holes and the like are truly random.
It's a minute difference, but butterfly effect says that everything matters.
#93 - everyonesderplol (02/23/2013) [+] (3 replies)
Its called the uncertainty principle, and is a core pillar of quantum mechanics, and describes the location and momentum of particles. And it is IMPOSSIBLE to predict the location of a particle in the future, even if you know its current location, its direction and speed.

So nothing is predetermined. Get it right.
#56 - 4chan refugee (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Alright then, explain the radioactive decay of a single atom.
#31 - 4chan refugee (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Nope, some things are truly random. For example, the points in time at which a radioactive source decays are completely unpredictable.

#34 to #31 - novus ONLINE (02/22/2013) [-]
You're right, they are unpredictable, because we have no means of measuring the quantum components of atoms while they are inside atoms. If you were to shrink down inside of an atom and measure the particles, I bet you could predict the moment of nuclear decay. Like someone said below me, things are random until we can find a way to measure them.

Take inherited traits in organisms. The distribution of DNA inside two cells merging can be considered random, but the truth is that the molecules around the DNA strands are positioning them in such a way that the segments of DNA will line up and split at certain areas. It only seems random because we can't get in there and measure what will happen.

I haven't yet extended this theory into the murky realm of quantum mechanics, but give me some time.
User avatar #21 - cheesymuffins (02/22/2013) [-]
Uncertainty principle is based, in part, in our current abilities of measuring things. This is because all of our methods of measuring things use what I'll call 'active' forms of measurement. What I mean by that is our current forms of measurement throw something at what we're measuring, and then record what happens to what we threw, to put it crudely. Whether that be light or electrons, we throw them at things, and record what happens.
Now when I put it so crudely, you can see how the methods we use to measure things aren't ideal, because some of the things we want to measure, like single atoms or single electrons, can be measurably affected by what we're throwing.
Another part is our lack of understanding. We just haven't figured it out yet. We've essentially invented an excuse for our current lack of understanding. We don't know how to invent the tools we need to measure things without uncertainty. Eventually, we'll get it.
#12 - verycoolcat (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
Quantum Mechanics Bitch!

Take everything you know about physics.... and THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

#37 - arkytior (02/22/2013) [+] (8 replies)
But what if I decide to change the way I live because of this post? Was I already supposed to do so? What if after I change the way I live, I change it again? What if I don't change anything? What if I live my life the way I want it but it's actually not the way I want but the way that was set for me? What if even by replying to this post I am fulfilling my already set destiny? What if by squishing that spider a week ago only did what I was meant and even feeling sorry after that was meant to be?   
   
   
   
P.S. Sorry for the long comment.   
P.P.S. I believe everyone can do as they please.   
P.P.P.S. What if by saying that last sentence I am again doing what I was meant to?
But what if I decide to change the way I live because of this post? Was I already supposed to do so? What if after I change the way I live, I change it again? What if I don't change anything? What if I live my life the way I want it but it's actually not the way I want but the way that was set for me? What if even by replying to this post I am fulfilling my already set destiny? What if by squishing that spider a week ago only did what I was meant and even feeling sorry after that was meant to be?



P.S. Sorry for the long comment.
P.P.S. I believe everyone can do as they please.
P.P.P.S. What if by saying that last sentence I am again doing what I was meant to?
User avatar #29 - shiningfinger ONLINE (02/22/2013) [+] (1 reply)
I may repost this with a bit of a twist in a few days. You mind?
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