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#121 - esmebuffay (12/08/2012) [-]
MFW people argue about religion on the internet. Do you actually think you're going to change anybody's mind?
MFW people argue about religion on the internet. Do you actually think you're going to change anybody's mind?
User avatar #284 to #121 - cruzslzr (12/08/2012) [-]
I honestly think that yes you could. Given that a good argument is made it can open the mind of someone else and they can eventually talk to a priest or some religious figure and learn more, and ultimately make the choice to convert or not
I was actually influenced by one of Jehova's Witness
I owe him my life essentially
#139 to #121 - pseudobob **User deleted account** (12/08/2012) [-]
Because on the internet, we make fun of people indiscriminately. PS I am agnostic, like Neil DeGrasse Tyson
User avatar #340 to #139 - esmebuffay (12/08/2012) [-]
I'm no atheist (in fact I'm protestant) I'm just more than tired of hearing people flapping their gums, in the end everybody's more steeped in what they believed before, in a bad mood, and resentful of the other party, it's not good for anyone. If people could just accept other people think other ways and leave it at that the world would be better off, and I'd have less of a headache.
User avatar #148 to #139 - RugbyKing (12/08/2012) [-]
Neil de grasse tyson argues against religion, says that it impedes humanity. he does not know of an overlying lord, but he doesnt care.



Here you go www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxTMUTOz0w
User avatar #341 to #148 - pseudobob **User deleted account** (12/08/2012) [-]
User avatar #394 to #341 - RugbyKing (12/12/2012) [-]
Exactly what I just said, thanks though.
"he does not know of an overlying lord, but he doesnt care"-Agnostic

In the same breathe he discusses how religion is hurting humanity.

My point being that Neil DGT does in fact go out of his way to show that religion is a negative force on humanity in my video and in others. If you're using him as your champion, realize that he does argue against religion, he isn't a "I dont give a **** and i dont discuss it" agnostic. Really if you're using him as an example then you should be like "Hey asshole, you're disrupting science with your Noah's ark ******** ".

Tis all I'm saying... I only disagree with you in the point that NDGT shows discrimination towards certain faiths, which seems to attack the first bit of your sentence.
User avatar #395 to #394 - pseudobob **User deleted account** (12/12/2012) [-]
When I said I'm agnostic like Neil, I meant like Neil, not just, we fit in the same peg. Also I don't see how not believing in a God (or anything spiritual) automatically discounts his opinions. He's an astronomer and educator and, like the entire scientific community, has been completely in line saying that if there is a god, we haven't found it yet.

As a side note I think Buddhism and Hinduism are better in principle than judo-catholic beliefs because they take death pretty much at face value and still manage to convince their believers to be good people, whereas Christianity, Judaism, and Islam act like death is a way out. That is really not something to include in a modern world view.
#123 to #121 - darthblam (12/08/2012) [-]
I once saw an atheist guy convince a supposedly Muslim "man" (may have been a kid) to rethink his belief.. not sure if that counts or not.

I don't have any pics to prove with. It was quite a long time ago... on Youtube of all places.
User avatar #131 to #123 - esmebuffay (12/08/2012) [-]
It stands to reason that in a million arguments one person's mind would change, but I have yet to see it happen. One reason changing people's minds online is so hard is because you can only really talk to them once, even if it's a long conversation it wouldn't necessarily stick with him, plus everybody rethinks their beliefs at some point in life, most people do it more than once, generally they go back to what they were before, whatever that happened to be.
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