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#67 - thedippestofshits (06/12/2014) [-]
as weird as it might seem to me, i can't very well take a 			****		 on the argument of protecting yourself.  well, i can, but that's all just opinions    
   
What really gets me is that a large amount of americans are only pro guns because the just love guns and want more ease of access, to improve their hobby or something.   
that just seems like a very wrong reason.
as weird as it might seem to me, i can't very well take a **** on the argument of protecting yourself. well, i can, but that's all just opinions

What really gets me is that a large amount of americans are only pro guns because the just love guns and want more ease of access, to improve their hobby or something.
that just seems like a very wrong reason.
#273 to #67 - sniperdawg ONLINE (06/12/2014) [-]
Contrary to popular belief not all of america is a 			********		, so sometimes guns can be used as a hobby, theres gun clubs that you can go to for target practice for sport/self defense practice. Then there is the whole 2nd amendment argument, but oh well.
Contrary to popular belief not all of america is a ******** , so sometimes guns can be used as a hobby, theres gun clubs that you can go to for target practice for sport/self defense practice. Then there is the whole 2nd amendment argument, but oh well.
#282 to #273 - thedippestofshits (06/12/2014) [-]
I know it can. it already is. Correct me if I'm wrong eurofag but if an american chooses guns as his hobby, doesn't the law already provide options for him/her?

I was mainly referring to the guys who want to carry openly just as an addition to their hobby, when it seems to me that would cause sooo much more problems than it's worth. evidence is in the original posts. you're always gonna hev guys like the ones on the left, and you can be sure as dick there's at least gonna be some incidents right?

i dunno, just my opinion. possibly worthless as a non-american.
User avatar #408 to #282 - doombunni (06/12/2014) [-]
Gun laws depend on the state. In South Carolina (where I live) you don't need a license to own a gun, while Georgia does require one, and some states don't recognize other state's licenses. All states do require classes and licenses to conceal carry, at least I believe that's the case.
#370 to #282 - anonymous (06/12/2014) [-]
People have been allowed to open carry in the states for a while. And really there hasn't been too much trouble, i've never heard of any open carriers getting into some shootout like anti-gunners like to imagine and there are very very few recorded instances of open carriers actually getting their gun stolen from their person (like single digit few)
#296 to #282 - sniperdawg ONLINE (06/12/2014) [-]
Dont worry about it, all opinions are valid, and you do have a point. Just look up open carry on youtube and youll see all sorts of dicks that go into walmarts in texas open carrying their ARs and such, which really brings a bad name to people who actually open carry to protect themselves. Open carrying vs concealed carrying I thought was always concerning a show of strength. If you open carry people can see that you are willing to protect the safety of you and people around you. regarding your standing on incidents happening, of course, thats one of the main focal points on anti-gun law campaigns, but think about this. People with malicious intent if they are willing can and will get ahold of a gun illegally, because they have nothing to lose. And if the anti-gun laws are passed (I doubt they ever will, 2nd amendment yadda yadda) then the bad guy can just shoot without anyone being able to do anything about it. IDK, it just seems a bit better to have people defending themselves and have some incidents happen rather than have the same incidents happen and no one will be able to do a thing about it. sorry for the rant, its just an extensive topic.
#255 to #121 - anonymous (06/12/2014) [-]
No, stop with your retarded chart.
#76 to #67 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
nah mate, I carry because I can. It's a fun and very expensive hobby, and anyone who's not a felon can get their hands on a gun pretty easy. To add to the easiness, if you have 300 bucks, you can get a cpl, and buy and receive a handgun the same day.

my mom lives in a ****** neighborhood in Detroit, and I live near a pretty ****** part of Ypsilanti, 2 cities in Michigan. It's about protection, and being responsible. Before I was legally allowed to carry, I always had a knife on me. For protection. It's not about being paranoid. It's about being prepared. And unfortunately, in Detroit, that means having a gun. Because most of the criminals here are desperate enough to injure, if not kill innocent people to get what they want. It's important to me, as a father and husband, to make sure they can't hurt or kill my wife or children.
User avatar #987 to #76 - alicorn (06/14/2014) [-]
>living in or near Detroit

Move asap, literally any place in america is better than Detroit
User avatar #990 to #987 - sirbrentcoe (06/15/2014) [-]
easier said than done. but that's the plan.
#259 to #76 - anonymous (06/12/2014) [-]
You're only lying to yourself if you honestly think you could use a gun to get yourself out of being mugged or out of most bad situations. Guns will only help in very few situations. Real life is not like a Hollywood movie.
#275 to #259 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
i have gotten out of getting mugged twice with a knife, and once with a gun. I got a knife drawn across the back of my hand once, and because I was quick, was able to draw down in my recoil action, pull and point. Gun > Knife, didn't lose my wallet. When I got stabbed in my forearm, the perp was so taken aback that he loostened his grip on the knife embedded in my arm. I twisted my arm, broke his grip, and pulled my own knife. It's about reaction time dude. Pic related, it's my left hand.
User avatar #160 to #76 - fuzzysixx ONLINE (06/12/2014) [-]
This CPL concept is so foreign to me. I can go buy a handgun in 10 minutes at a store whenever I want, being 21 or over. When I was 18-20, I had to find someone to meet me in a parking lot for a legal private sale. AZ does have CCW (Concealed Carry Weapons permit), but it is only needed for Federal owned land (like National Parks), and to carry in other States.
User avatar #186 to #160 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
yep. Arizona is one of those states that has what we call Reciprocity. Meaning that because I have a MI CPL, I can leaglly carry in all the restricted areas in your state, except federally operated buildings, schools, sports venues, bars, and what have you. The permit is a way to keep track of registered gun owners, in my opinion. one 8-hour class can't take someone who's never handled a gun and make them real-world-ready in my opinion. it takes some common sense, which they don't have a test for yet.
User avatar #88 to #76 - larkham ONLINE (06/12/2014) [-]
im pretty sure carrying a gun/knife around constantly is the definition of paranoid no matter where you live mate
User avatar #96 to #88 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
and also, I live in a city where car jackings and violent crime are extremely prevalent. being prepared is not being paranoid.
User avatar #91 to #88 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
well, a gun you could call paranoid. But a knife, it has so many practical uses other than defense. I never leave home without a knife, lighter, and pen. Can't carry at work, or that list would include my gun. As TuPac once said, 'Better to have one and not need it, then need one and not have it.'
#261 to #91 - devlac (06/12/2014) [-]
Hmm. I still feel that this works out the wrong way. A normal man anywhere shouldn't need a gun to defend himself and his family. I understand that it's become a necessity, but can only think it's because of the widespread armament that already exists. God bless anyone with the common sense to handle a gun safely, but I'm not sure I could trust just anyone who could have me at gun point the next moment.

Pro-gun politics seem to be all about a gun-culture that imo is clearly unhealthy, fear of other people with guns and a small percentage of "muh boomsticks".

You seem like a person with his stuff straight, but I had to air how concerning pro-gun laws etc. sound to me.
User avatar #321 to #261 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
trust me dude, i'm right there with you. this issue shouldn't be about gun laws. it should be about mental stability of gun owners. My grandfather, who has hunted every day since he was 7 years old, has Alzheimer's now. how many of his guns do you think he still has access to? and he's been at it for over 75 years. It's about responsibility, and quick reaction time. It's not just a right to carry, but a responsibility to handle yourself accordingly. when you carry and use a handgun, you also jeopardize other peoples' safety. I'm not here to force pro-gun down any ones throat. I just want people to know their are logical reasons for some people to carry.
User avatar #323 to #321 - sirbrentcoe (06/12/2014) [-]
**hunted or handled rifles and handguns, that was a typo. if that sonofabitch had time to hunt every day, he better have taken me with him a few more times.
User avatar #74 to #67 - doombunni (06/12/2014) [-]
how is that wrong? just curious
User avatar #140 to #74 - thedippestofshits (06/12/2014) [-]
Because whatever the right choice is, pro gun laws will inevitably have downsides as well. It's just something you can't really deny.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it (i really haven't delved into the statistics) but if you're gonna allow people like the ones on the left side of the OP to walk around, it should be because it has been proven without a doubt that crime would lower, not because some dude wants himself a shiny new sniper rifle, or some hillbilly wants to prance around showing off his newest handguns
User avatar #404 to #140 - doombunni (06/12/2014) [-]
Some guns do have a purpose. Hunting not only keeps the population of encroaching species down (deer are a big problem where I live) but also helps fund nature preserves and parks with the sales of hunting tags. Hand guns are good for protection, especially in the case of home invasion.

I think the main argument of the main post is that idiots don't need to be running around with rifles scaring the crap out of people, when a holstered handgun handled in a correct way makes the point nicely.
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