What do you think?. . stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Wayne Lapierre. In school they I was taught to throw textbooks at him. Imagine if a school shooter walked into a classroom then a rain of textbooks descended upon him like mete
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User avatar #509 - pipedt (12/26/2012) [-]
I don't understand why Americans love their guns so much. There other plenty items of killing you can choose from. I personally think that swords are the most badass weapon of all time. Imaging everyone carrying a sword all around. Guys with small dicks would carry gigantic zweihanders, while other people would carry more comfortable blades. That would be ******* awesome
User avatar #510 to #509 - Kennyalways (12/27/2012) [-]
Well its the reason that its easier here to get guns, its easier to handle guns if you know what your doing, and for examples of people who like hunting its easier to hunt with a gun then say, in your case, a sword. But i will agree that it would be badass to see swords more than guns
#423 - bahh (12/22/2012) [-]
So should the rest of the world have nuclear weapons? Would that make the world a safer place?
User avatar #476 to #423 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (12/22/2012) [-]
The whole world does have nuclear weapons. And if only one nation had nukes they would take over the ******* world; so yes, we're better off if everyone has them.
User avatar #467 to #423 - biggieboy (12/22/2012) [-]
ironically, that's the theory of MAD (mutually assured destruction), pretty much the only reason why Russia (well, USSR back then) and USA didn't blow each other up.
User avatar #464 to #423 - Biebz (12/22/2012) [-]
No, but it is better to have opposing sides with the same weapon to keep each other in check.
#433 to #423 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
obviously
#406 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
I'm just saying that a real man doesn't need a gun to fight for him, and if you really need a gun you're not much of a man.
#477 to #406 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (12/22/2012) [-]
Right, real men are bulletproof. Only pussies need a gun to defend themselves with.
#411 to #406 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
So what you're saying is you aren't a real man if you can't stop a speeding bullet? Well then I guess there's only one real man, and he himself proclaims to be "Super"
#428 to #411 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Die with dignity, not like a coward.
User avatar #465 to #428 - Biebz (12/22/2012) [-]
So if a criminal has a gun and you dont and hes going to shoot you, rather than being able to defend yourself, you think it is better to just sit there and die with "dignity"?
#401 - rollcore (12/22/2012) [-]
**rollcore rolled a random image posted in comment #394829 at Anime & Manga **
#394 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Say that to the families who lost members due to cops shooting them in a crossfire at the empire state building.
#390 - ryanroyazzopardi (12/22/2012) [-]
**ryanroyazzopardi rolled a random image posted in comment #2164083 at My Little Pony/MLP Brony Forum ** or himself after the shooting spree.
#412 to #390 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Well, Hitler wasn't THAT bad of a guy. I mean, he killed Hitler!
#382 - Yojimbo (12/22/2012) [-]
Wrong.
Wrong.
#380 - Lambda (12/22/2012) [-]
Or Brock Samson with a knife.
User avatar #376 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
I think this is a loaded question.

I also think that below you will find a lot of self righteous people who "feel" for people they never knew but in 6 months will have forgotten.
User avatar #444 to #376 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
because we are going to be sad about it for the rest of our lives. we will remember it as a sad time but if we sad all the ******* time over things like that in a world like this you would drive yourself insane.
User avatar #447 to #444 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Ok so tell me this. How many children that have died in countries like Africa from drug lords on a daily basis have you cared about today? or do those children not count in the "children ******** " scenario were using.
User avatar #448 to #447 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
ok let me ask you this if your parent die tomorrow in a gun war even though they are innocent i should just walk right up to your bitch little face and say people die everyday ****** from starvation and torture so grow the **** up.
User avatar #449 to #448 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Ok except I never said that ******* .

I said all of these people only care because it's whats a "big deal" right now. If it was about the "deaths" they would care for all the children and not just the ones everyones talking about.

My point is we need to care about all of them and stop pretending to only care about some.

So **** you.
User avatar #452 to #449 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
this is happening in your own country, do people will normal situation like people you live

you are being a massive **** **** if you think we are fine with children dying any where in the world. But we arnt going to do anything about it anytime soon.
User avatar #457 to #452 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
You just suggest i'm saying you should walk up to the people who have lost someone and call them a " ****** " and tell them to "grow up" I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth you're the **** .

I'm saying as a human being I care about more than just my own country. If we care why aren't we doing anything? Thats my ******* POINT. take action someone other than just your home. If its really about "children" take action and save them don't sit here crying after the fact when it's to late. Many more deaths can be prevented but instead were gonna sit here and do nothing because its "hard"
User avatar #459 to #457 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
or because there is nothing we can do. we can spend all our lives trying to change something but with little impact.

and im not putting in words in your mouth ass mouth.
User avatar #461 to #459 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
... I quoted you doing it moron.

Who says's there's nothing you can do? We're in a country that fights wars over oil and the lost lives of our own but we don't stand up for the innocent elsewhere. If you made enough noise more would get done but no ones going to because it's something that's been accepted as the reality.

User avatar #462 to #461 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
i said that should i do it not you FOR ***** SAKE!!!

Im done with you.

im tired of trying to converse with a miserable self righteous **** .

dont reply i dont want to see you again.
#383 to #376 - muttbunch (12/22/2012) [-]
You only need to be a parent to a 6 year old child to genuinelly "feel" distress at the killings...i don't have to know them to "feel" bad for them and their parents...it's called Human Empathy you wanker.
User avatar #385 to #383 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
This is a heated topic. One that people are jumping into. Do me a favor and name the kids that died without looking it up.
#393 to #385 - muttbunch (12/22/2012) [-]
Don't have a ******* clue.
Why does it matter?
Do Americans get all weepy and **** when they remember their dead military from the war and stuff?
Course they do,but i bet they can't name them all....does that mean it's not real emotion?
You see my point?
User avatar #396 to #393 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
You caring about a situation is not caring about the people. Becoming infuriated and losing your **** doesn't help these people it only helps you. Nothing on this forum is helping anyone. People are going to complain here regardless though.
#402 to #396 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
It is sad to see how desensitized you are. That's one of the reasons why the world is basically chaotic right now.
User avatar #410 to #402 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
You're a moron. It's not desensitized to think using logic. People letting their emotions run their lives are the reason we have people are shooting each other.

I'm not saying I don't care i'm saying a board full of people ranting here isn't doing any good other than to hear yourselves scream. Thats the truth.

It's convenient to blame someone else who has a different opinion than yours for these situations rather than actually using fact though isn't it?

Edit: Grammar
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#369 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Maybe we should stop giving guns to the bad guys then.
#424 to #369 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Bad guys are good guys all the way upto the trigger pull.
User avatar #366 - DynamiteBABY (12/22/2012) [-]
Quite often the bad guys stop themselves..
#365 - muttbunch (12/22/2012) [-]
This topic makes me angry and infuriated,as people seem to care more about their"Right" to carry/own a weapon,than they do about 20 innocent children lying dead.

Having guns doesn't seem to be working for you America...why not just try it without them for say 20-30 years and see how you get on?

If it makes no difference i'll be first inline to shoot myself,with something ridiculous like a rapid firing assault rifle or some random **** ....
User avatar #372 to #365 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Are you claiming that people wouldn't still commit ****** ? Look at columbine the weapons used were illegal and to top that off they had home made pipe bombs. Everything was illegal. It happened anyways.

To top that off America is SATURATED with guns registered, unregistered, and illegal. You could never actually control the law there. Law abiding citizens would give up weapons while allowing criminals to hide unregistered and illegal weapons.

#387 to #372 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
It would be less likely if they didn't have access to a gun withing five minutes of losing their **** one day.
User avatar #395 to #387 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
In "5 minutes" I have access to a car, the ingredients to make mustard gas, a pipe bomb, and large knives.'

Also if you understood what I just said i'm explaining that they will still have access to weapons.

Also "losing their **** " is the problem. That's a mental problem ignoring the problem and treating the systems wont prevent deaths.
#399 to #395 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Most of the people who do that don't have mental problems. Some people just break and most people only use a gun out of desperation or a fit of rage at the spur of the moment. There's hardly any ******* committed using a gun that are thought out for more than a minute.

You might have access to mustard gas ingredients, but that takes more specialized knowledge to not kill yourself in the process of preparing it and it's a **** load harder to carry a bunch of containers of chemicals into a crowded place, mix it all together and deploy it than it is to pocket a gun, pull it out and start firing.
User avatar #400 to #399 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Mustard gas = Bleach + Ammonia. That isn't special knowledge a bottle of clorox basically tells you that.

Plus the original comment here wasn't about hand guns alone it was about mass ******* in general where in fact mustard gas, and pipe bombs have been used. (see columbine for pipe bombs and large illegal assault weapons)
#434 to #400 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
We had a guy go nuts here in New Zealand a few years back. He went loopy and managed to find only a sword. He only managed to slash a few people before the swat guys shot him. Our cops dont carry guns so the swat team was called in. Lucky we dont have many guns here or that would have been worse. In another incident we had a gun collector go nuts and he shot a few cops... Should never had allowed him guns in the first place.
User avatar #437 to #434 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Ok. Again that goes around my point of "other weapons are available" Anyone can get a knife, bleach, ammonia, a car, or many other number of lethal items.

Claiming one guy could only find a sword doesn't prove their aren't weapons it proves hes either simply crazy and went swinging a sword or stupid.
User avatar #364 - rockerrocksixty (12/22/2012) [-]
the right in a nutshell: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCtD3OJ-_Es
#363 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
What's so different with America compared to other countries where guns are controlled? Something is seriously wrong with your country if you can't feel safe without a gun. I feel sorry for you.
#375 to #363 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Freemen own guns. Slaves don't.
#439 to #375 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
haha haha haaaa.. We have more freedoms than you precisely because no one is worried about getting all shot up. Our police are failry nice to us and quite relaxed because we dont shoot them..
#388 to #375 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
I'm free enough that I don't need a gun to defend my rights. I have testicles and a brain for that. I don't need to resort to shooting people to get my way.
User avatar #430 to #388 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Do you live in a country that defends itself with weapons? If so you indeed are free due to them.
#432 to #430 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
I live in a country that hasn't defended itself from anything for more than 50 years.
User avatar #368 to #363 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
I'm going to tell you the difference.

In most gun controlled countries the population isn't already saturated with both legal and illegal weapons. If you tried to outlaw weapons it would go the same way as prohibition in the states. A large portion of weapons in the US aren't registered. People would hide them and start buying illegal weapons. Attempting to get rid of something so common can only back fire.

Criminals are already comiting crimes they don't care if it's illegal to own a gun or not.
#409 to #368 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Prohibition didn't affect the sale or consumption of alcohol though. The only thing it barred was the sale and profit from it. You couldn't own a bar but you could drink all you wanted.
#379 to #368 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
When Australia banned assault weapons there was a decline in gun deaths (google it), and in say 50 years, there would be less guns around and we would be better off.
User avatar #384 to #379 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
A decline in gun deaths does not equal a decline in ******* .
#445 to #384 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
It did actually ... google around.... you will find heaps.... [url deleted]
#377 to #368 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
But don't you think something has to be done? I mean, you can't think this is a good situation you are in?
User avatar #381 to #377 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Yeah. Something does need to be done. How about mental treatment and care programs for those who are considering mentally ill by their parents (example being the kid who shot up this school).
#397 to #381 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
The problem with that is, though, that people like Lanza and Holmes make up a tiny fraction of gun related deaths in the US. What kills the most people are either completely accidental or situations where someone has a CWP and gets pissed off at someone and shoots them on the spot. My grandpa would not have been shot to death in a bar because some legal gun owner got pissed off and pulled his gun.

What we really need is a society where people aren't ten feet away from a gun at any given time so that when they come home to their wife in bed with another guy their first reaction isn't "Oh I better go grab my ******* M16"
User avatar #398 to #397 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Are you suggesting your grandfather couldn't have been killed with a bottle, knife, bat, car, etc? In single death incidents a death could occur from any number of reasons. Taking out the gun won't prevent the death it will only change the weapon.

#404 to #398 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
He probably wouldn't have been. He might have gone to the hospital, but you really think a bunch of people are going to sit around as two people fight for a good twenty minutes before one kills the other? Just entertaining the thought that getting pissed and pulling a gun is any where near on the same level as getting in a fight with someone, and that they are going to hold that grudge long enough to track you down and do it later, is just ******* stupid. I'm sorry, but a gun vs a bat is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge ******* difference. Yea. I can safely say that were he not shot in the heart before he could react he probably would not have died that night.
User avatar #413 to #404 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Yes it happens all the time.. If you cant argue for 20 minutes without pulling a weapon you have a serious mental problem.

There's a difference between arguing and homicidal rage.
#415 to #413 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
So you're telling me..... you're seriously trying to tell me..... that a person who gets pissed off while they are drunk enough to pull a gun and shoot someone.... will still just go home, grab a bat, track someone down and beat them to death while bystanders just sit there and watch?


Just....



just get the **** out. You can't be serious.
User avatar #427 to #415 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
No i'm telling you there are weapons everywhere you're telling me they couldn't pull a knife and stab someone in the gut?

You have problems though if you believe every drunken brawl ends with attempted ****** .
To top that off you're focusing on one single thing I said rather than the whole piece. again "bat" was not the only suggested weapon I was making the point that there are many ways to kill someone. Doesn't mean you have to.

Also if you can't even log in to stand up for your point than why the hell should I care?

Edit: Grammar
#431 to #427 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
>implying having an account makes ones opinions more valid
>implying it's just as easy to kill someone with a knife over a gun.
>implying I said every drunken brawl goes that way, not just more than enough for it to be a concern
>implying you posting on an account makes you any less retarded

>IMPLYING
User avatar #435 to #431 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
1. Yes it does it lets people know who you are and shows that you would allow others who know you to know your opinion.

2. Yes it is people kill with knives every day.

3. Your point was that a drunk would shoot a man just because hes angry and a guns close.

4. I never made anything close to this implication.. You're actually implying I implied it which is ironic.
#454 to #435 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Having spent my life boozing in a bars I can safely say, two drunk guys with bottles/tables/chairs/fists/ashtrays have a real hard time killing each other. And the bouncer is usually happy to step in and stop things. Imguessing the bouncer would not if guns were involved. (im not the earlier anonymous person you were failing to convince btw)
#456 to #454 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Oh and i've never seen anyone remain angry for long after the event. People usually go their sperate ways (hospital/cells) and its forgotten.
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User avatar #414 to #413 - silasdg (12/22/2012) [-]
Edit: also I never said a "gun vs a bat" i said you can kill with a bat. You take a blow to the head with a bat and then stand up.
#361 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
In Australia, it is very difficult getting a gun, and we have a very low massacre rate.
#386 to #361 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (12/22/2012) [-]
But your crime rates skyrocketed after you placed all those regulations...
#460 to #386 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Where did you get that idea?
#470 to #460 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (12/22/2012) [-]
#360 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
Americans are the only ones that think that there should NOT be more strict gun regulations. The whole world knows that the mass ******* happening in the grand United States of America are happening because of poor gun regulations. The psychos that commit these massacres are "common" people not high profile criminals. Few of them would have managed to get these guns if they had to find an illegal dealer. Making the rest of the population also have guns will only cause more trouble and won't help at all. What was the last time you have seen that a commoner stopped a robbery or homicide because he possessed a gun? I don't remember seeing this very often. It is also proved data that when you react to a robbery pulling out a gun and trying to kill the criminal you will end up dead. Leave it to the cops. It's true that they can't stop everything but unfortunately crime is a result of our capitalist society.
User avatar #356 - deadmice (12/22/2012) [-]
Sure, have a pistol or some **** ... why do you ***** need assault weapons?
#362 to #356 - palindromia (12/22/2012) [-]
Because I have an inferiority complex caused by fatherlessness thus warranting me to overcompensate by buying a Hummer and assault rifles about which I actually know nothing to feel like a man.

Also my penis is tiny. Not really short, just really thin. It's like a licorice stick. Ain't no pleasin ladies with that.

<< Who I feel like when I'm not shooting innocent animals in my backyard with assault rifles.
#353 - kontraband (12/22/2012) [-]
Yeah that.   
Or Chuck Norris.
Yeah that.
Or Chuck Norris.
User avatar #350 - drunkasaurus (12/22/2012) [-]
I know it's hard to wrap your heads around the fact that less guns=less gun violence, but I guarantee you that's how it works. Especially when most mass shootings aren't criminals, it's mentally ill white males with access to a family member's gun. At the very least it should be much more difficult to obtain a gun, and should involve a licensing process more stringent than driving. When the second amendment was put in the constitution, it was put there because the American settlers were fleeing from a then opressive government, and they took the colonies from Britain with force, in the Revolutionary War. Obviously, they felt it was very important that society was armed, so they could fight back against oppressive governments... We don't need that kind of protection any more, and it's hurting us more than it's helping.
#347 - mollyddog (12/22/2012) [-]
I think that regardless of whether guns are easily available or not if some crazy **** gets the idea that he's gonna shoot up a school then he's going to find a gun anyway.

It's a psychological problem shooting up a school not a gun problem
#419 to #347 - anonymous (12/22/2012) [-]
that kind of person doesn't account for even a small fraction of gun related deaths.
#354 to #347 - muttbunch (12/22/2012) [-]
I honestly wouldn't even know where to start looking for a gun in the UK...therefore i'm highly unlikely to kill somme little kiddies with one if i go mental.
#357 to #354 - mollyddog (12/22/2012) [-]
Yeah you may not think that now but if you're real ****** up you'll find a way. Desperate men do desperate things
User avatar #405 to #357 - dueljockey (12/22/2012) [-]
Police would have problems getting a gun here.

Americans are idiots. I agree there is no point taking there guns away now because theres too many out there. You should have not been tards and took away guns years a go.
User avatar #367 to #357 - NolanNasty (12/22/2012) [-]
not really...
#373 to #367 - mollyddog (12/22/2012) [-]
The Sandy Hook ******** didn't have any guns until he killed his mother to get them. Therefore this shows us that he was willing to kill before he ever had a gun
User avatar #378 to #373 - NolanNasty (12/22/2012) [-]
yeah, but if gun control were slightly more strict , his mother would probably not own guns.
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