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THE BIGGEST GUN LIE IN HISTORY / EU GUN


>Julkaistu 29.11.2015
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This video is clearly aimed at those unfamiliar with firearms but I still wanted to share it.

Share this everywhere you can! Especially if you live in the EU!

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#2 - randomuploads (01/08/2016) [-]
I got to 38 seconds and then I couldn't handle the stupidity anymore.
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#9 to #2 - randomuploads (01/08/2016) [-]
So I watched the whole thing and I think in general I agree with his points. It's short-sighted reactionist politics to ban all semi-automatic weapons after an incident like in France.

But why did he have to use such stupid arguments..? Anyone who wants a gun to "defend against terrorists" should never be allowed to own one because that person is not in touch with reality.
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#16 to #9 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
Because civilians have never had to defend themselves terrorists or enemy armed forces right?

you goddamned idiot
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#33 to #17 - blargenflargle (01/09/2016) [-]
www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

Googled for approximately 10 seconds. For the record I'm not replying for you, but for someone who might be reading this conversation and be in the middle ground, prone to read your comment and think you have a good point. Which you don't.

All I can think when I see any mass shooting is "If only more people were armed, maybe lives could have been saved."
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#36 to #33 - buffalogriller (01/09/2016) [-]
Fair point. thanks.
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#38 to #36 - blargenflargle (01/09/2016) [-]
Huh, thanks man that was pretty mature of you. For some reason I thought you were a troll account or something, but thank you for proving me wrong. Hope you have a good weekend.
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#35 to #33 - randomuploads (01/09/2016) [-]
"If only more people were armed, maybe lives could have been saved."

MAYBE you could defend yourself. In the real world things happen really quickly and hitting something is much more dificult than in the movies. I think playing dead gives you a much higher chance of survival.

Next point is how big the chance is to be involved in a terrorist attack that uses guns instead of explosives or something else. I didn't do the math but I think it stands to reason this chance is rather small indeed, arguably negligible.

Based on these two tiny tiny chances (you probably have a higher chance to get killed in an accident on your way back from winning the lottery) you are carrying a lethal piece of equipment everywhere you go, with all the dangers and risk on accidents that come with it? People get hurt by their own weapons more often than you care to admit.

To me that proves you're more interested in your own personal idea of what safety is, than actual quantifiable measurable safety.
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#39 to #35 - blargenflargle (01/09/2016) [-]
I shot approx 200 rounds total at BCT and I was able to consistently hit a target at 300m. So yes, I know it's "Not like the movies." But training a regular person to hit a target under pressure isn't the unfathomable challenge you make it out to be.

Also terrorists aren't bears. Playing dead doesn't stop a bomb from taking off your legs. AoE damage is to strong in the current patch so deception tactics like that usually don't work very well.
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User avatar #3 to #2 - lilnuggetbob (01/08/2016) [-]
Whats so retarded about it?
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#4 to #3 - randomuploads (01/08/2016) [-]
"Guns used to fight for freedom" Well yea, 70 years ago maybe.
"EU about to ban your freedom" See point 1.
"We are no longer safe from terrorists" This is fear mongering.

And that was only in the first 40 seconds.
I'm watching the rest now because I am intrigued by this man.
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User avatar #5 to #4 - lilnuggetbob (01/08/2016) [-]
>"Guns used to fight for freedom" Well yea, 70 years ago maybe.
See: Every nation with a civil war atm.

>"EU about to ban your freedom" See point 1
Same.

"We are no longer safe from terrorists" This is fear mongering.
Normally true, but there have been several recent terrorist attacks, and i doubt its going to stop today.
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#6 to #5 - randomuploads (01/08/2016) [-]
Civil war..? We're talking about the EU here.
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User avatar #11 to #6 - strangesir (01/08/2016) [-]
Yeah, and in Europe, Ukraine is having a very bad time with Russia.

Are you saying civil wars have never happened in Europe before?
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#23 to #6 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
Give it a few years, I'm sure you'll change your tune on using a gun to defend your homelands.
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User avatar #7 to #6 - lilnuggetbob (01/08/2016) [-]
Guns ARE used to fight for freedom... EG all nations in civil war.
While the EU aint in civil war, they still remain a symbol of freedom.
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#12 to #7 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
Guns are a symbol of "freedom" literally nowhere on this entire planet except for the US.
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User avatar #14 to #12 - italianfrosttroll (01/08/2016) [-]
These europians seem to disagree.
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#22 to #14 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
Because they're americanised.
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#15 to #12 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
And any nation that has had to defend itself from a hostile outside force
See: Vietnam
See: Ukraine
See: Finland
See: Ireland

You are of retard
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User avatar #26 to #4 - lankou (01/09/2016) [-]
He literally talks about the effect of the Yugoslavian wars in the 90s on the availability of black market weapons, pick up a damn book or look at the news once a blue ******* moon and you'll realize that there have been armed conflicts all over the EU since the dawn of ******* time and they persist even in the modern era. And yes these armed conflicts are fights for freedom, ******** name i grant you but stll the same thing
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User avatar #1 - weaponexplain (01/08/2016) [-]
Woah ****** you expect me to watch all that? Give me a summary.
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User avatar #34 to #1 - mrwalkerfour (01/09/2016) [-]
its literally only 11 minutes long, condidering your name you should be interested in gun related videos. dont be a lazy ****
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User avatar #37 to #34 - weaponexplain (01/09/2016) [-]
I got a note from my doctor telling me I only had 10 minutes to live.
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#8 to #1 - anon (01/08/2016) [-]
im tired, so this wont be the best representation, but heres a quick summary.
guy talks about how terrorism is becoming an issue, then he mentions that europe wants to ban semi autos.
he shows the difference between semi auto and single action firearms, basically showing that 90ish percent of guns would be made illegal by the ban.
uses drug bans as example for how much of a waste of time it would be to try and ban guns.
closes with the usual 'take guns from the bad guys, not us' and references some statistic that nearly all guns used in terrorist acts in eu were never even on the civilian market
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#24 - thechosentroll (01/09/2016) [-]
Well, good thing I live in a country where everyone's too broke to afford guns, so we just stab eachother instead.

Oddly enough, terrorists don't like targeting us. I wonder why.
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#13 - bronywiseman ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
Godspeed Andrzej.
Keep those guns free.
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User avatar #32 - Furry (01/09/2016) [-]
Lots of whiny bitches in comments god damn.
I agree with video and like how he spelt it or for an idiot to understand. Gotta send messages in the lowest common denominator.
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#21 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
Pro-gun argument drinking game: Every time other crimes being illegal is mentioned, take a shot.


Do people not realise that criminalising drugs massively reduces the amount of drugs around? Or violence?
It's a non-argument
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#25 to #21 - anon (01/09/2016) [-]
Omg you're so wrong dude.
Prohibition has proven itself to be the #1 reason for the explosion of the drug market.
More people per capita in America do cocaine and heroine than when it was legal.
Just like with the Alcohol prohibition you see an increase in the price of the illegal substances and an increase in violence over the substances.
People will still use these substance, but now they can be accosted by the law and have to deal with a more dangerous environment due to the new danger.
Prohibition is simply a cash cow and a way to justify entering your home and seizing your assets.
Nothing has improved since the drug prohibition.
Gun prohibition will lead to a civil war though, and that's the way it is supposed to be.
Only wolves benefit from the defenseless sheep.
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User avatar #28 to #21 - lankou (01/09/2016) [-]
yes that's why the Netherlands with there very liberal drug policies have the same massive gang violence problem.

If you make something illegal and there is a demand, you create a black market and high profits. If you create an availability to make money, some people will step up and try to make it. Its simple economics Supply and Demand.
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User avatar #20 - tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-]
I stopped paying attention at 2 minutes when he started pumping the gun.

The sound of a pumping shotgun is a mechanically satisfying sound to me.
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User avatar #27 to #20 - sptnfouroneseven (01/09/2016) [-]
Same. Love that sound.
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User avatar #29 to #27 - tenaciouslee (01/09/2016) [-]
It's just so...nice.

Though it probably wouldn't be a good text alert sound.
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User avatar #30 to #29 - sptnfouroneseven (01/09/2016) [-]
Not at all. Though a good alarm sound...
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User avatar #19 - beastybaconman (01/09/2016) [-]
Posts like this make me really happy I live in the great state of Vermont
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User avatar #18 - skumbaner ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
based polish guy bringing the heat
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User avatar #10 - GmCity ONLINE (01/08/2016) [-]
In fairness most people think semi-automatics are burst autos.
 
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