Gun math.. www . neontommy . com/news/2012/07/doing-math-guns Not OC, just wanted to share... Exactly. One must quit asking why there are so many guns and start asking why there are so many murderers.
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Gun math.

www . neontommy . com/news/2012/07/doing-math-guns

Not OC, just wanted to share.

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Submitted: 12/27/2012
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User avatar #5 - techketzer (12/27/2012) [-]
Exactly.
One must quit asking why there are so many guns and start asking why there are so many murderers.
User avatar #6 - Fgner (12/27/2012) [+] (10 replies)
Apparently nobody thinks like me. Who cares if guns are around, that's not the problem here. The problem is PEOPLE ARE MURDERING OTHER PEOPLE. If someone wants someone dead, it will happen.The problem isn't that people can kill other people with guns instead of knives or bombs like all the anti-gun people want us to believe. It's that we have so many murderers and people with the intent to kill other people, who will do so one way or another. The way I see it, they'll eventually make a gun ban or something, and the murder rates will either stay the same, or go up (from those same murderers knowing people can no longer defend themselves). Then half the country will say "I TOLD YOU SO!", make them give their guns back, and they'll move on to the next stupid fucking thing to blame like "well it's the fact we use fossil fuels! These murders are all just worried ecologists!


Also: Take out the gang crime from thes statistics and the drug related ones and such, and these numbers will decrease massively. The majority of these are not innocent civilian deaths.
User avatar #41 to #14 - Fgner (12/28/2012) [-]
> Who cares if they got them legally? If a criminal wants a gun, and it's legal - why not? If a criminal wants a gun and it's not, buy one on the black market, make a homemade bomb (extremely easy), or just go stab the shit out of people.
> Actually, the EU has worse/more public shootings than us. Less reported though. Most of our gun related crime is gang related. Public shootings are rare but are reported everywhere for weeks/months, so it seems like we're worse.
> Mental institutions get enough money. But the applicant has to have a family member ienroll them or enroll themselves, we can't just go grabbing people "oh you might be crazy." Thus, the loons don't get in when they should. It's not a matter of funding, it's a matter of identification and retrieval.
> Don't blame Republicans. I hate it when people have to point fingers at the people they don't like and generalize. Make a point instead of bashing with bullshit.
> Actually, I don't think it would have been all that much harder to have made a simple bomb you could google and blown up half the school instead. And there are plenty of weapons other than real rifles, chainsaws for instance.
> Can I hear what injuries they had? I'll be brutal here, I'd rather have dead children, then children who got beaten in the head and are vegetables now.
> I believe heavier regulation for sure. Just not making guns illegal complety. Hefty background checks, limiting factors like number, size, type , et cetera. I support that completely.

But again, not many of these are actually innocent civilian deaths. And I'm not really convinced that taking away people's right to have a gun (and therefore some of the fear of committing crimes) is such a great idea. Heavy regulation, yes, weapons should be for self defense, and sometimes hunting (not my boat so I can't say much here).
#2 - anonymous (12/27/2012) [+] (19 replies)
Oh and if you start with the "America has more people." Then I am going to flip a shit and make those numbers go up quickly if you understand where I am going with that!!!
#30 to #28 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Also you are right, I didnt have to flip out, just that the argument "it is not valid cause America has more people." It is seen EVERYWHERE and it gets tirering to look at.
#48 - anonymous (02/07/2013) [-]
Show me the stats for China and India, since most people's arguement seems to be America's population.



Then we'll talk.
User avatar #43 - chiefrunnyjeans (12/31/2012) [+] (1 reply)
vermont has the least gun laws and is also the safest state in the nation. Also most people with guns that i've met tend to be much nicer than people who don't. Not only that but you can't argue with hard statistics. I you look at the overall crime rates before and after a gun law is passed it always goes up. Ex. in the 80's detroit tried to pass a law that would stop people from illegally carrying a gun in public. People who wanted to obey the law did so and within two weeks the murder rate rose 22%.
#25 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
guns discussion aside, scandinavian countries have 'a lot' of guns, yet not much gun-related homicides...
just something i noticed
#8 - pineapplepeople (12/27/2012) [+] (8 replies)
I don't give a shit if you own a pistol. Fuck, I don't really care if you own an AK-47 (though I don't like it). I have a problem with the idea that someone can walk into a store and say "I want an AK-47 and 500 rounds of ammo please!" and actually get it. I don't know much about gun policy here in America, because I honestly hate guns, but any place that doesn't carefully screen those they give guns to is a dangerous place.
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User avatar #4 - thisisspartah (12/27/2012) [-]
icelands got its shit together
#1 - anonymous (12/27/2012) [-]
Are you trolling?

The first statestic, the only nations who beat America were 2-bit nations with a reputation for having no governemtn that can control the damn violence they deal with constantly.

Secondly, the other statestic... are you completely ignoring the fact that the US has TWICE the murderrate of the other countries? If you exclude the guns THEN it becomes equal but otherwise the gun murders are just doubling the numbers...

Bro... do you even math?

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