Well, There Ya Go (OC). The world's first certified death from cannabis... Government agrees, alchohol is worse than cannabis proceeds to ban alchohol first cannabis death
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#1 - wardd (09/27/2013) [-]
Government agrees, alchohol is worse than cannabis
proceeds to ban alchohol
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User avatar #140 to #43 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
well its pretty hard to make money from an organization that was disbanded a few decades ago
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User avatar #209 to #200 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
people on fj have diverse opinions, and they enjoy expressing them threw comedy and the power of thumbs.
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User avatar #212 to #210 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
there is no difference, everything you know can be disproven, you only choose to believe the facts you see fit.
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User avatar #240 to #227 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
well, its a republic after all, so the stupid get the same vote as Morgan freeman; its not chance that a criminal gets elected, its a government of the people and the people are stupid. im surprised we didn't nuke ourselves during the cold war.

as for the illuminati. its literaly impossible to try to argue with you because you will just say the illuminati is all powerful. and I have just been fooled by their tricks. so I will just say ok. you win. I lost.
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User avatar #495 to #492 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
~don't have same opinion as you
~Nvm **** you, i hope you get ******* murdered and thrown into the sea.


yup im on the internet all right
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#312 to #226 - LiamNeeson (09/28/2013) [-]
Why do you need to be right so badly? He didn't even really argue with you, you looked for an argument and he didn't give you the satisfaction. You called people on FJ retards because they didn't agree with your statement and them called them ignorant when he said they have diverse opinions. And he's right you know, there's no way he can argue you if you believe the Illuminati are all powerful. That's clear. If I think that God created everything, or that Zeus created the heavens you literally cannot argue with me if I'm not willing to take your opinion into account because I'm so sure of my own.
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User avatar #485 to #478 - LiamNeeson (09/28/2013) [-]
I read your comments, but the problem is you see everything as a fact. If you see it as a fact no one can persuade you otherwise. And your argument of all the presidents being related holds no relevance.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhtgINeaJWg
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User avatar #165 to #1 - doctorhue (09/28/2013) [-]
If alcoholic drinks or tobacco cigarettes had been invented now, they would most likely be illegal, as both are more than 10 times more harmful than marijuana.
#370 to #165 - aceonfire (09/28/2013) [-]
>implying cannabis was "invented" in modern times.
The plant has been a cash crop in the US before. Like, 1700's and 1800's it was grown on the US east coast and used as medicine, rope, clothing, recreational drugs, paper, etc.
User avatar #178 to #1 - xdeathspawnx (09/28/2013) [-]
Tobacco is way worse then both of them, but will never be banned because of how much money the government makes off it.
User avatar #10 to #1 - thechosentroll (09/27/2013) [-]
The last time they did that was during the american prohibition. The result - more drinking than ever. I'm fairly certain a lot less people'll smoke pot if it were legalized.
User avatar #34 to #10 - zeusx ONLINE (09/27/2013) [-]
not exactly true
You need to login to view this link
www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opinion/actually-prohibition-was-a-success.html
also i don't see the reasoning behind less people using pot if it becomes legal. makes more sense that when something becomes generally available and easier to obtain, use rises.
User avatar #328 to #34 - bluenebula (09/28/2013) [-]
At first, it would. Think of people who turn 21 (Here in America) and are now able to buy alcohol. The first thing they do is exercise this new freedom. The same will happen for marijuana. There would be a lot of use in the first few months, but it would die down pretty fast. If pot was made legal, I can see it given the same treatment as alcohol. You don't go to work drunk unless you're looking to get fired. You don't drive drunk unless you're looking to die or get arrested. The same can apply to weed very easily. It's not impossible to make legal, it's just considered taboo right now. Do remember that at one point in America, the idea of letting women vote was ******* insane. Things change with time. Who knows what the future holds for our little cannabis friend.
User avatar #483 to #328 - zeusx ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
no man, i'm all for legalization. it's your right to do whatever you want to your own body as long as you're not infringing on anyone else's rights. it's just that the argument that weed legalization would reduce use just seems preposterous on the face of it and i hear people use it all the time. there are many better arguments to be made.
User avatar #58 to #34 - thechosentroll (09/27/2013) [-]
Not when a large portion of the people using it are only doing it to be "edgy".
#128 to #58 - anon (09/28/2013) [-]
you're wrong.

So wrong.
User avatar #60 to #58 - zeusx ONLINE (09/27/2013) [-]
but really most people i've seen don't really partake to be edgy. maybe the first time but after that it's all about the high. that's my experience anyway. and if you compare this situation to the alcohol situation, it seems like in that instance ease of obtention has led to increased use across the board
#285 to #58 - anon (09/28/2013) [-]
Ahaha! You made my day, I appreciate people like you who generally think that their better than other people and that everyone but themselves and who they idolize are retarded. YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY!
#17 to #1 - ipostfunny (09/27/2013) [-]
oh is that so?
User avatar #3 to #1 - minorian (09/27/2013) [-]
They already tried that many places. Oh, the havoc.
User avatar #274 to #3 - missrainbowdash (09/28/2013) [-]
it wouldn't cause any havoc, but it would strip more freedoms.
#340 to #274 - thebesttrumpeteer (09/28/2013) [-]
dude. there was literally a prohibition. it failed because people with booze had better guns than police. basically it created a new wing of the mafia for the import of alcohol from canada and the carribean. source: 5 on APUSH test
User avatar #349 to #340 - missrainbowdash (09/28/2013) [-]
I'm saying I don't support another prohibition, I love my whiskey too much.
User avatar #350 to #349 - thebesttrumpeteer (09/28/2013) [-]
but it would cause havoc. like ******* rise of the planet of the apes kinda **** . kids roaming the streets with guns. teenagers doing heroine. adults doing nothing but shirking responsibilities to drink. basically the whole country would turn into LA
#421 to #274 - gahlskaag (09/28/2013) [-]
Alcohol is to ingrained in most cultures for it to be outlawed without any large scale backlash from the community
User avatar #24 - whatugawkinat (09/27/2013) [-]
Regardless of an inability to become physically addicted or overdose, being high is still being high. It doesn't matter what medicinal purposes it has, people still abuse it. You can't do anything to your full potential drunk, stoned or even buzzed. Using numbers and so called statistics to glorify getting high isn't the way to go if you want marijuana to become legal and used to its potential.
#334 to #24 - thefjgienni **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
Of course no one is at their full potential when they're drunk or high. Using drugs and alcohol responsibly means doing them when you don't need to be at your ******* potential, like after a week of work. Or a day of work. its meant to blow off steam not to use all the ******* time. Of course people will abuse it, like people abuse alcohol, but that just means they're **** ups, not me for blowing off steam by smoking a joint once every month
User avatar #366 to #24 - robbyarcane (09/28/2013) [-]
I enjoy getting high. Keeps me focused on things actually. As a music producer, i can say that being high helps production flow a lot smoother
User avatar #431 to #24 - aherorising (09/28/2013) [-]
actually, I think you can overdose. and you can definitely get addicted, and it is bound to cause injuries if used incorrectly.

>source I'm Dutch
#65 to #24 - anon (09/27/2013) [-]
why not let me make that decision, just like when i drink?
User avatar #116 to #24 - YourName (09/28/2013) [-]
You obviously have never seen me hackey sack while blazed out of my mind.

Regardless, you can abuse any substance that has a potential effect on your body. Just because someone can abuse hamburgers, doesn't mean all fast food joints should be outlawed. Sure, there are obese people who eat more than they should, but that is their choice, it has nothing to do with the original substance.
User avatar #181 to #24 - xdeathspawnx (09/28/2013) [-]
I think the point being made is that the government considers people over 21 responsible enough to drink alcohol, which is potentially deadly, then they should also be considered mature enough to smoke weed, which you can't overdose on.
#40 - mitdwit ONLINE (09/27/2013) [-]
I'll drink to that statistic.
User avatar #46 - Logicaltightrope (09/27/2013) [-]
Marijuana may not kill, but it does prevent some mental development. I'm personally fine with it being legal, but I think the legal age should be around 21, like alcohol.

Or make it fully legal and let people do what they want and deal with their own decisions. You know, instead of the gov't trying to be everyone's mom.
User avatar #302 to #46 - demigodofmadness (09/28/2013) [-]
I think living in America prevents mental development. I talk to some people and I just feel my brain cells dying off.
User avatar #189 to #46 - xdeathspawnx (09/28/2013) [-]
I think that tobacco, alcohol, and marijuana should all be legal at 18, or maybe 19. I can understand that they don't want highschool students doing these things, but once they have moved out everyone is doing all of these things anyway. If you made them legal then we would have a lot less people in jail or kicked out of college for drinking under 21. Also, you can drink at 18 in pretty much every other country in the world except for the US, and things seem to work out there fine.
User avatar #201 to #189 - Logicaltightrope (09/28/2013) [-]
Idk about alcohol, but marijuana does prevent some mental growth, as I said, and the brain is nowhere near done developing at 18 (or 21, for that matter), so I say the older the better, to a point.

I don't know how effective the law would be, but I'm relatively confident fewer underage people would use it than with no law in place, and that would be the goal.
#408 - nephritho (09/28/2013) [-]
his face when.
User avatar #411 to #408 - doctorgolgo (09/28/2013) [-]
That... that looks surprisingly like me. Except my face is more smug.

How in the **** , dude?
#114 - avatarsarefornoobs ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
but if you buy imported weed from mexican drug cartels, which are responsible for many murders, therefore funding them, does that count as an indirect marijuana related death?
User avatar #136 to #114 - BIGSEXYISBACKAGAIN (09/28/2013) [-]
Maybe if it weren't illegal there wouldn't be drug cartels. Ever hear of any Budweiser cartels?
#137 to #114 - terminalinfinity (09/28/2013) [-]
Possibly. But wasnt black market death used as the justification for the end of alcohol prohibition
#149 to #114 - anon (09/28/2013) [-]
That's a death that would never have happened if weed was legal because drug cartels that specifically sell weed would be out of business.
User avatar #198 to #114 - xdeathspawnx (09/28/2013) [-]
If you made it legal then people could buy from legitimate dispensaries instead of being forced to get it from criminals or gang members. The thing that they don't tell yo in school is that drug dealers desperately don't want weed to become legal. You would think that drug dealers would rather be in states like Colorado, Washington, or California, where weed is legal or has smaller penalties associated with it, but they would actually rather be in states with huge penalties because they can make way more money there. By keeping weed illegal we are actually indirectly funding our criminal organizations.
#118 to #114 - schneidend (09/28/2013) [-]
Well, there's an easy fix for not having to import weed.
#124 to #118 - triggathepirate (09/28/2013) [-]
Are you implying growing your own wares?
Are you implying growing your own wares?
User avatar #160 to #124 - schneidend (09/28/2013) [-]
That, or at least making it legal for your hippy neighbor to grow his own.
#126 to #118 - avatarsarefornoobs ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
about 90 percent of it is imported, according to some random statistic i read a long time ago.
still, id wager that a majority of it is smuggled over the Mexican border.
just remember kids, grow your own kush, dont support mexican/south american drug lords
#322 - rdibp (09/28/2013) [-]
I couldn't have been the only person to think that first said "cannibals".
User avatar #196 - nightmarecorpse (09/28/2013) [-]
The stats in the top panel are just stupid. The alcohol death total isn't just deaths from alcohol poison.
It also counts drunk driving, and accidents related to being drunk.
Also mentioned that alcohol is a cause of crime, but don't mention anything about crime involving marijuana.

You're telling me nobody in the history of the world ever got in an accident driving high, or nobody got shot cuz they never paid their dealer?

Sure the rates might be much lower, but claiming it never happens ever is dumb.

as for the rest of the post, I chuckled. Nice one
#113 - lysitsa (09/28/2013) [-]
I can't say that smoking pot has ever harmed me, physically or mentally. But I do suffer from anxiety and paranoia when I smoke it. Of course I didn't fully realize this til I ingested it and got a really strong dosage, prior to that my "high" would only last a few hours because I just smoked it in small amounts. Not quite enough for me to start flipping out. But I guess you could say that when I get high I start to panic. I feel my heart level rise. I can't keep a steady train of thought, and for some reason this sets me off because I just don't feel like myself. I start to worry about a heart attack/stroke, or even being high forever. Sounds silly but it's just what happens. I ingested it for the first time not too long ago, and I was flipping out and having anxiety attacks. So yeah... pot doesn't have that relaxing, 'whoa....dude' effect other people experience on myself. Now even the smell makes me gag.

Of course this is obvious, smoking is just not for me. But what I'm saying is, if it's made legal, somebody of any age could try it for the first time thinking it's the cool new hip thing, and end up having an episode like me. Speaking from experience, I wouldn't wish that on anybody. I'm just happy I know now that it's not something I should probably be doing, what other people do is up to them of course.
User avatar #174 to #113 - bannon (09/28/2013) [-]
Same thing happened to me when I use to smoke it. The main reason why I stopped. Now don't get me wrong, if I'm at a festival or some special event that only comes along in a long time, i'll take a few drags but after that, it's a long time before I smoke it again. I still suffer from some anxiety attacks. Whether it's from that? I don't know.

Perhaps if it is governed, things like this can be avoided by having it regulated and inspecting the product to prevent any harmful additives within it. But the thing is, that there is still too much study remaining to complete on it. So my guess is that it will be a long time before it can be sold publicly.
#221 to #113 - anon (09/28/2013) [-]
Isn't it a good thing for people to find out they don't like it?

Oh, and my experience is similar to yours.
It took me a while to know for sure that I was doing it right, and the last time I did it I was absolutely certain that I was ingesting it properly.
I guess I'll never understand why people get high, because all it does is make you stupid, makes you scared and/or paranoid, and makes you have anxiety.
I like being in full control of my mind and body.
So I guess I would say that smoking weed is stupid, and a waste of money and your life.
But hey, to each their own I guess.
User avatar #277 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
"Weed never killed anyone"
Really?
No one EVER died because of it?
No one was ever killed over it?
No one was ever killed by a driver under the influence of it?
No one was killed by a stoner making a mistake because they were high?
None of it was ever laced with something harmful?
None of it was ever grown in bad soil?
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User avatar #308 to #277 - demigodofmadness (09/28/2013) [-]
I like to say it's a fair minimum of people killed due to weed. I think it's fair to say cocunuts falling on people's heads kills more people a year than weed. And if it's laced with something harmful, that wasn't really weed killing someone, was it?

And as for the DUI, if you're hit by a stoner who's driving you maybe got a scratch on your car, because no way was he going faster than 7 mph.
User avatar #309 to #308 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Guy hits the gas, goes to change the radio station, bam he's doing more than 7, especially if he's trying not to look high
User avatar #310 to #309 - demigodofmadness (09/28/2013) [-]
Woah woah woah, when a stoner goes behind the wheel of the car he doesn't change the radio station, ******* at 10 and 2 both eyes on the road. He sits there in silence, sweating hoping a cop doesn't pull him over.
#324 to #277 - DamnWalmartBullets (09/28/2013) [-]
no faggot it really has never happined
#325 to #277 - DamnWalmartBullets (09/28/2013) [-]
no but really if any of those things happen its probably just the persons fault you got to be a certain kind of stupid, but hey you cant fix stupid
User avatar #347 to #277 - drosenblum (09/28/2013) [-]
While the driving one is very true, stoned driving is safer than drunk driving. But my main point is, one of the many attributes to legalization is the idea that it would reduce marijuana related violence and reduce cartel violence. Not saying I think it should be legalized, just saying.
User avatar #357 to #347 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Again, my comment was not comparing it to alcohol, why do people assume that?

I am comparing it to a theoretical world without the substance.
User avatar #289 to #277 - trystanvierra (09/28/2013) [-]
Weed never caused anyone to die due to overdose, whereas thousands, if not millions, of people a year die from alcohol poisoning ALONE... Alcohol also fits every category you presented except for the one about being grown in bad soil.

But you're probably a troll, so it doesn't really matter. You already knew this **** .
User avatar #293 to #289 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Well, second response and it's already a strawman.

I wasn't comparing it to alcohol, I was simply saying that weed is not this perfect, harmless substance that everyone seems to act as if it is.
User avatar #467 to #293 - killasmasha (09/28/2013) [-]
They are sold in 'coffee shops' here in the Netherlands.. and no, they rarely get robbed due to there being at least 20 more profitable targets in a two block radius
User avatar #298 to #293 - trystanvierra (09/28/2013) [-]
Oh, you're totally right. I don't use it because it makes you totally okay with doing nothing with your life. People should at least have the right to choose whether or not they want to use it without being arrested and such. People are going to get it anyway, but if it's legalized, government could put some sort of regulation on companies that rise from the legalization of it. Which solves the problem of it being laced or grown in bad soil. And if the alcohol consumption laws (i.e. you can't get drunk in the middle of a kids' park), and apply the same DUI consequences, then people will begin to use it responsibly. Just as most people use alcohol responsibly.
User avatar #299 to #298 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Dude, I never said you shouldn't legalize it or use it.

I just said it isn't perfect.

Calm down, you're the kind of person that makes other pot supporters look like tools.
User avatar #305 to #299 - trystanvierra (09/28/2013) [-]
Most of them are. They hide behind their "facts" on how weed is completely amazing and risk-free instead of admitting that they just wanna get high. There are a few exceptions to this stereotype, but it's THOSE pot supporters that make them look like dickheads.
User avatar #295 to #293 - buya (09/28/2013) [-]
i understand ya man. i have heard of cases of people too high to remember that they have a
peanut allergy or something and then they die.
User avatar #297 to #295 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Not even that, but like getting high and then going "I want bacon" start frying it, go into the other room for something forget about it, the grease catches fire and boom, there now a kitchen fire and someone not situated to handle it.
User avatar #313 to #289 - wellimnotsure (09/28/2013) [-]
You do realize prolonged use of marijuana turns your brain into Swiss cheese right?
User avatar #318 to #313 - trystanvierra (09/28/2013) [-]
You can pretty much replace the word "Marijuana" with anything somewhat controversial and the word "brain" with the appropriate body part people will believe it's true (i.e. alcohol, video games, loud music, red meat, soda, plastic, fast food, etc, etc, etc).
User avatar #317 to #277 - mkgt (09/28/2013) [-]
Dealers killing buyers. Bad product. Neither would happen if it were legal, and grown/distributed by professionals
User avatar #336 to #317 - Crusader (09/28/2013) [-]
Yes, because pharmacies, corner stores, drug stores, etc NEVER get robbed.
#48 - wheresthefudge (09/27/2013) [-]
I'm just gonna point out that literally everything has an LD50. So about that "you can't overdose on it" thing... yeah, you can. I mean, 			****		, you can overdose on water.   
Granted, it's ridiculously high (pun entirely intended), but it exists so stop saying it doesn't exist.
I'm just gonna point out that literally everything has an LD50. So about that "you can't overdose on it" thing... yeah, you can. I mean, **** , you can overdose on water.
Granted, it's ridiculously high (pun entirely intended), but it exists so stop saying it doesn't exist.
#68 to #48 - terminalinfinity (09/27/2013) [-]
Yeah but its physically possible to overdose on water (some radio station contestant did it in a town near me trying to win a Wii when it first came out)

It would take 600 joints consumed in 5 minutes to OD on THC. I challenge anyone to try and make it halfway
#72 to #68 - wheresthefudge (09/27/2013) [-]
Never said it was practical, just possible.
Never said it was practical, just possible.
#91 to #68 - coryxyzagain (09/28/2013) [-]
Man, I believe in what you are saying. I'm sure someone would be thrown into a coughing fit before they finished however much pot and wouldn't OD.

But I just ******* hate that unit of measure, joints. Are we talking 600 pinners or 600 ****** doobs? It's just some bogus measurement you usually hear in government propaganda. "600 joints of Colombian Strength." It's ******** .
User avatar #71 to #48 - doctorgolgo (09/27/2013) [-]
I like that gif, mate.
#129 to #48 - anonyanille (09/28/2013) [-]
I'd use the "false" image, but it's already been posted as you can see. It is truly impossible to overdose on marijuana if it is in fact pure marijuana. The only way you could possibly die from it would be to smoke over 800 joints and you would die from the smoke that the papers would give off. (Carbon something-oxide overdose.)
User avatar #329 to #129 - tomsellick (09/28/2013) [-]
Carbon Monoxide overdose, that's what you're looking for.
#345 to #129 - wheresthefudge (09/28/2013) [-]
Nothing is impossible.   
That's the main point I'm making here. If you say something is 100% non-harmful, you're lying.   
Seriously. You're upwards of 80% water (by mass), and yet you can still die from drinking too much at once.
Nothing is impossible.
That's the main point I'm making here. If you say something is 100% non-harmful, you're lying.
Seriously. You're upwards of 80% water (by mass), and yet you can still die from drinking too much at once.
#146 to #48 - herptyderpies (09/28/2013) [-]
Im sorry but scientists have yet to find an actual LD50 for Marijuana. What they have come to is it would take 20,000 to 40,000 times what is in a joint. A joint is typically .5 of a gram of pot so were looking at 10,000 to 20,000 grams of pot in one sitting. You would green out after you consumed a max of 10 grams to yourself.
Im sorry but scientists have yet to find an actual LD50 for Marijuana. What they have come to is it would take 20,000 to 40,000 times what is in a joint. A joint is typically .5 of a gram of pot so were looking at 10,000 to 20,000 grams of pot in one sitting. You would green out after you consumed a max of 10 grams to yourself.
#343 to #146 - wheresthefudge (09/28/2013) [-]
Not having found it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.   
There is some amount (however impractically large [as I've noted in previous comments]) that is lethal.
Not having found it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
There is some amount (however impractically large [as I've noted in previous comments]) that is lethal.
#369 to #146 - fractalius (09/28/2013) [-]
It's possible with hash oil. 97% of THC, and as much as roughly 4 grams condensed to half a gram. You could technically hit 2-4 grams in one hit, and if you chain hit it you can die from it
#427 - yorker (09/28/2013) [-]
The problem for me with stoners is that they're mostly boring assholes and when they aren't getting high, they're talking about getting high.

Because they're boring, and it's the only way they know to have fun.

Also, it's ******* annoying when kids in high-school talk about this stuff and don't know **** about it, you CAN get addicted to marijuana.
Really, you can get addicted to anything, so this argument is completely retarded, there is nothing that you can not get literally addicted

And if these guys really think it's just a hobby, why do they plan their lives around it?
It's on all their clothes, have it on their socks, they have it as their cover photos, etc...

Also, Marijuana IS a gateway drug, denying such is ignorance. There are plenty of mellow stoners out there, but everyone at my high school and all of my old friends that have ended up on harder drugs, acid, LSD, and even meth, etc... So yeah, it is a gateway for impressionable teens.

tl;dr would rather be in a classroom with people who don't smoke instead of losers who's only way to have fun is to smoke.
User avatar #428 to #427 - yorker (09/28/2013) [-]
addicted *to
User avatar #435 to #427 - xapplemanx (09/28/2013) [-]
the question is would you rather sit in a classroom of violent drunks, or calm/high stoners?
User avatar #436 to #435 - yorker (09/28/2013) [-]
Not all drinkers are violent, not all stoners are calm.

I'd rather be in there with drinkers than idiots who can't find anything else to talk about, it's annoying as **** .
User avatar #437 to #436 - xapplemanx (09/28/2013) [-]
suit yourself
User avatar #441 to #427 - misfitsftw (09/28/2013) [-]
but its not like a proper addiction with such terrible withdrawal symptoms that it forces you to give in, like heroin
#93 - crzylion (09/28/2013) [-]
all these comments about car crashes (they happen, i suppose, but lets be honest weed isnt the drug you take to do stupid/dangerous **** ) and noone mentions lung/throat cancer. Because inhaling the fumes of burning organic matter is usually good for your respiratory system.

do whatever you want to do in life, just dont lie to yourself about the consequences.
ps. to the idiot that will tell me its harmless, no its not google it.
ps2 to the idiot that googled it and found some ******** on some ******** site: that was ******** . look for a medical / scientific magazine/ pubmed site
#103 to #93 - terminalinfinity (09/28/2013) [-]
Because smoking is the only way to take in marijuana....oh wait

YOU should be the one to cite sources saying marijuana is harmful. If you are going to tell me that we need to spend tax dollars that I pay into for the locating, arresting, jailing, housing, prosecution and monitoring after release of people for the smoking of marijuana then I'll need to know why. It costs 13,000 dollars to keep ONE person in jail for one year and there are 450,000 arrests every year for possession alone. YOU justify the expenditure of money when we cant even justify it for alcohol which causes observable social harm.
#108 to #103 - crzylion (09/28/2013) [-]
yo im not saying it should be made illegal, at all, thats not what this picture is about.

just that if you think its not bad for your health, that youre wrong.

also, im not your doctor. www.lmgtfy.com got ya halfway there already.
#27 - gimmeyobabies (09/27/2013) [-]
mfw living in colorado
User avatar #266 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
**** this bull **** ... I'm so sick of this argument...Alcohol is bad for you and weed is bad for you... if anything alcohol should be illegal because it ***** with your state of mind. People ******* wreck things while high but weed didn't kill them, oh no, it was the wreck. I ******* hate the people that only want it to be legal so they can get stoned and not give a **** about anything. I'm all for the legalization of hemp... that would be great but the only reason most people want weed legalized is to get high and they make every excuse in the damn world to say it's ok instead of "we know it's bad, we just want to get high". yes, it is harmful to your body, yes it ***** with your mind, yes you can get lung cancer from it, no, it's still no better than alcohol. ****

TL;DR Man up and stop making false excuses about weed, just admit it's bad for you and that you don't care, you just want to get high
#300 to #266 - brettjet (09/28/2013) [-]
i hope you know that marijuana has saved peoples lives, not joking, there was a documentary about how this girl would have any where from 15-50 seizures a day. She was only 8 if i remember correctly. It was a video on youtube, the original poster uploaded it and it got taken down a week or so after it was up, this was about one month ago. there was no reason for it to be taken down but it explained the positive effects of weed and how it doesn't need to be smoked and the medicinal uses it has. there are strands of weed that don't get you high, it has cancer killing properties and seizure preventing properties as well. this girl is still alive today. i found a copy of it, yes CNN made this documentary. "WEED" - CNN Dr. Sanjay Gupta Special- Full Documentary (SEE more at cureyourowncancer.org)
User avatar #303 to #300 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
And i'm very happy that the girl was able to use weed as a healing item... I'm not arguing about the plant itself..just the part of society that only want to use it to get high and nothing else...
#306 to #303 - brettjet (09/28/2013) [-]
the ones who want to only smoke it are stupid, eating it is much healthier and gives a better high, but being addicted to it is ridiculous. i say do what you want with it but i would treat it like a candy bar, eat one once in a while so you enjoy it, not to the point were you become fat.
User avatar #269 to #266 - Deeticky ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
^Agree times 100.
#275 to #266 - doctorgolgo (09/28/2013) [-]
I think you missed the joke here. Did you see the second and third pictures in this post or only get blind-sided by the first one?
Borrowed the reaction pic from an earlier comment. Thanks for that!
User avatar #281 to #275 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
nah.. I thought the post was funny... I was just kind of ranting in general because its always inevitable that someone tries to compare the two and always tries to say that weed is safe and all sorts of things... I actually thumbed up the content and then had my unimportant opinion party lol
#290 to #281 - doctorgolgo (09/28/2013) [-]
Don't get me wrong, I value all the comments on my posts (except that idiotic "penguin of d00m"). Opinions are important in that they present us with varied viewpoints and may even cause us to rethink a cherished/entrenched stance. That's why I post a lot of (unfunny) junk. Yeah, it's a retarded way to try to reach a lot of people and show them different ideas/views, but I kind of like the community here and actually do laugh at a lot of the content and comments (especially the comments). So keep posting your thoughts/rants/joke/reaction pics, folks! It's all good!

And for no reason at all, here's one of my favorite pictures of sumo.
#287 to #266 - gmarrox ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
1.) I like getting high, and really don't have a problem admitting that
2.) Weed kills less brain cells than attending a rock concert or listening to loud music
3.) Marijuana is a proven cure for depression, insomnia, general aches, epileptic seizures, and can be used to help AIDS patients eat, while there is no concrete evidence that it causes cancer.
4.) Weed is illegal mostly because with hemp in the picture, the textile market is ****** .
5.) The only known negative health effect is the damage to the throat and lungs caused by inhaling hot smoke. This is entirely negated with the use of vaporizers.
User avatar #292 to #287 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
And alcohol is good for your kidneys...woopty **** .... does your reaction time slow down when you're high? pretty sure it does.... you can cause damage to people around you when you're high and doing something else. I don't so much have a problem with people getting high at their home or something as long as you are responsible with it. I just don't see how people can be responsible when they are stoned out of their mind and laughing at tiles on the floor
#294 to #292 - gmarrox ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
While this can't be proven, and is more experience related, most experienced pot smokers will understand what i mean when I say that unlike being drunk, you're very aware of your capabilities and limitations, and the more you're accustomed to smoking, the less your motor skills and mind state are affected, until eventually there's almost no difference at all. I'm in no way condoning driving high or anything, but alcohol is legal and also impairs driving. Driving drunk is illegal but it still happens.
User avatar #296 to #294 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
The same can also be said of drinking. My father can drink pretty consistently throughout the day and never be drunk. I'm just wondering something if you don't mind me asking... what do you get out of smoking? I've some experience with people that smoke and they are all kind of sad.. so i'm just wondering what the point is
User avatar #301 to #296 - gmarrox ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
Oh man, bear with me here, it's really hard to not sound like a stoner when describing being high.

Everything is just better and more fulfilling. Music becomes far more thought provoking, you feel happy, food tastes so much better, and you get along with people really well. When listening to music high I've heard it described as feeling the music in your body, similar to the urge to dance to a catchy song but far more intense.

Also there's no real hangover except a slightly sore throat, and that goes away after you've become more experienced.
User avatar #307 to #301 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
so basically your describing a drinking buzz but without the thought provokingness.... does it make you not care about anything?... like family or friends? what about people that say they can't have fun without being high? I'm not trying to sound confrontational although in the text form it seems that way. I'm just wondering if it's just how different people react or if its something in weed that causes it
User avatar #311 to #307 - gmarrox ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
If anything it makes me prioritize what really matters to me. For instance when I'm high I become more content with doing my mundane tasks like homework. And I never smoke alone, I always smoke with my very close friends. And as a personal value I always give my parents a call on weekends and see them when I can.

I never have trouble having fun when I'm not high, unless I'm the only person who isn't.
User avatar #314 to #311 - cloudstrifeownsall (09/28/2013) [-]
hmm... well... you seem ok. and you didn't respond negatively to any of my comments that were probably a little more confrontational than needed... so for that I thank you and give all of your comments green thumbs.. Smoke responsibly and you will never be wrong for it in my book. I must take my leave and thanks again for the conversation
#446 to #287 - anon (09/28/2013) [-]
Weed does not reduce depression it makes it worse
User avatar #403 to #287 - rockamekishiko (09/28/2013) [-]
i just find it really odd that it seems "perfect" no substance is perfect, too much of ANYTHING, even water is bad for you.
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User avatar #148 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
I support the legalization of marijuana, but I am against its usage. I don't believe people should force other people to share their morals.

with that said, I think this is a ****** statistic. this factors in way more deaths than pure overdose. for instance, people also die while smoking weed and driving at the same time regardless if its their fault. but that isn't factored in. only on the alcohol part.

while im ranting, people say marijuana isn't addictive. my ass. videogames have consumed the past 4 years of my life, but I can say im not addicted, because videogames don't have addictive chemicals. the exuse is about as valid as saying its impossible to overdose on videogames. because no one has ever died from gaming marathons before.


tl;dr this statistic is bais
User avatar #152 to #148 - yusay ONLINE (09/28/2013) [-]
While I do agree with you, news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4137782.stm
User avatar #155 to #152 - tomahawkit **User deleted account** (09/28/2013) [-]
I was trying to be sarcastic, im fairly sure he wasn't the first.
User avatar #443 - indigobob (09/28/2013) [-]
Don't get me as someone hating on weed, but it's not completely true that you can't get addicted to weed.
I have a friend ( PERSONALLY know him ) that used to smoke weed all the time. When he was not smoking weed he was talking about smoking weed and his desire to smoke weed. Tell me, if weed becomes the only joy in your life, your only conversation topic, and your only true desire, then how aren't you addicted to it!?
Moreover, he tried to stop a few months ago and he experienced physical pain from the withdrawal, so this whole 'no physical addiction possible' ******** is also not entirely true
#451 to #443 - captaindropkik (09/28/2013) [-]
even if it doesn't fit the standard of addiction, it can still be a massive dependency, as it can with anything that you enjoy! I know **** loads of people like this, practically have green skin, don't eat, they're skin and bone and go on about alcohol being more dangerous than weed. weed's dangerous because people think it isn't, if you had 5 pints/joints a day, there are gonna be equal repercussions somewhere along the line
User avatar #445 to #443 - zuflux (09/28/2013) [-]
As someone who has smoked a lot of weed, sometimes for months straight, let me tell you sumthin'.

It's not a bodily addiction, like Heroin, where you start to physically hurt after a while without it.
It's a mental addiction, where to you, the world seems bland, boring and uninspiring.

To me, as an artist, weed helps a lot with loosening an art block, or letting me think outside the box.

The first week or so after a long weed streak, I can be a bit iritable, or think a lot about "How a puff o dat dank **** " would feel really good, but ultimately it passes.
User avatar #447 to #445 - indigobob (09/28/2013) [-]
I see your point
But one thing I didn't tell you about my friend is that he was doing weed for a few months every day that he could afford it, developing bigger tolerance over time, I met him a few days ago and I will quote him: 'Man don't ever get into that **** you don't know the consequences, I am feeling physical pain man I have to keep taking weed just not to feel bad.'
Now, I agree it is entirely possible that this physical pain of his might just be a placebo effect developed by his brain because of his mental addiction. I find it likely.
However isn't the mental addiction itself bad? Shouldn't people stop talking about weed as something that is not dangerous and admit that they don't care?
User avatar #448 to #447 - zuflux (09/28/2013) [-]
Firstly. You don't 'take weed'

Now on to the point. Weed, like many other drugs causes your brain to release Dopamine, the body's own 'reward' substance. People who are likely/predisposed to getting addicted to gambling, Alchohol, or any other 'thrill' out there, should be cautious when trying something like weed. Cus it feels good, and there's a very real chance you won't be able to stop doing it, because you feel you can't live without it. Like some can't live without getting drunk every day.

I had periods where I smoked weed all day, every day for months on end, literally. I developed a stronger tolerance, but at some point it kinda reaches a point where it will only get minutely stronger with each smoke. Basically it reaches a pinnacle.

If your friend "can't live without weed" he's one of those people who get a bit to addicted to it, who might end up wanting a bigger rush, who might make the mistake of doing something beyond the drugs classified as "Psychoactive". I've been on Acid and shrooms too. Basically what you wanna stay away from is Stimulants, like cocke, Heroin, meth and so on.

But back to the point. Everyone reacts differently to this stuff, and the only real way for you to find out if you should be doing it at all is partly to look at your habits. If you tend to get 'addicted' to certain thrills, you might wanna be cautious.
User avatar #426 - catdownstairz (09/28/2013) [-]
Saying that pot doesnt kill anyone s is like saying AIDs doesnt kill anyone
User avatar #502 to #426 - sonicserver (10/01/2013) [-]
....but it doesnt..
User avatar #505 to #502 - catdownstairz (10/01/2013) [-]
Neither does AIDS
User avatar #506 to #505 - sonicserver (10/01/2013) [-]
...yes i know..
User avatar #415 - icameforthepron (09/28/2013) [-]
Was about to "FALSE" your illegal thing until I saw UK...

grrrr
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