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#716 - joemand (09/15/2012) [-]
Holy **** , I haven't seen so much ignorance since elementary school. Most people don't understand politics/economics, but it’s the ones like you who have the audacity to act is if you know anything that piss me off. So allow me to address your little rant point-by-point. Keep in mind if I really wanted to get into specifics than I’d be writing for days.

My parents are immigrants and when they first came to this country we had nothing. I spent Christmas/Birthdays/Holidays like any other day. We moved from shack to shack always trying to find a place called home. We tried those broken programs that the government simply doesn’t know how to handle with very little luck.

However, this did not stop my parents. My father worked three jobs as a measly cook and soon took over his very own restaurant. At 12 years-old I was in that kitchen from 530AM to 10PM every single day (unless I had school). Soon afterwards I was able to find the time to become an online programmer where I made my first 1000$ at 15 in a matter of minutes.

And guess what, I'm working my way through college (Michigan State University) as we speak. All of which I am completely paying for by myself. I am also duel majoring in Business kim jongistration and Computer Programming. Do you know how I've been able to do this? ************* hard work. So please, spare me your sob story.

As for business owners not having to actually work, well this is where you showed your ignorance. First and foremost, look at any business owner and you’ll see they’re working 80 hour work weeks. Although their work isn’t ALWAYS physical, the amount of stress is beyond what you could ever handle (i.e. my father a brain aneurysm, needs a new heart and a variety of other conditions due to stress). So let’s not undermine their work life you little prick. Your lack of business experience is completely fine until you start talking about it as if you know anything about it.
#2880 to #716 - messerschmidto (10/18/2012) [-]
Thank you. You've said what I couldn't.   
With Romney,   
we would cut down useless spending on expanding the size of the government.    
we would cut taxes not only for the rich, but for all classes.    
we would remove the pressure on the economy, giving it the chance to build itself, as it has shown itself able to do many times over.   
And as you have shown us yourself.
Thank you. You've said what I couldn't.

With Romney,
we would cut down useless spending on expanding the size of the government.
we would cut taxes not only for the rich, but for all classes.
we would remove the pressure on the economy, giving it the chance to build itself, as it has shown itself able to do many times over.
And as you have shown us yourself.
User avatar #2377 to #2347 - joemand (09/16/2012) [-]
Lol as much as I may appreciate the comment, how did you find this comment when it's so far back? I've reposted it quite a few times just to piss off OP lol, but this is the first one that I posted.
User avatar #2396 to #2377 - natawree (09/16/2012) [-]
i was interested in what people had to say so i read most of the highest rated comments... and i have to say you probably had the most well-thought out response from all the comments i read
#1018 to #716 - turtlewithashotgun (09/15/2012) [-]
"kim jongistration"
User avatar #2381 to #1018 - joemand (09/16/2012) [-]
Lol I said ad ministration. Damn kim jong!
#2442 to #2381 - turtlewithashotgun (09/16/2012) [-]
that's what I assumed. it just really caught me off guard, while tickling my nuts and making me fart.
#924 to #716 - anon (09/15/2012) [-]
Wow. I love this :O
User avatar #783 to #716 - ifiwereayoungman (09/15/2012) [-]
And where in OP's argument was he complaining of having to work hard? I think you missed his point a little.
#720 to #716 - joemand (09/15/2012) [-]
As for tax breaks (subsidies), we all get them. Will I agree that they don’t always work – well of course. However, have they shown exceptional results in the past – yes. With this being said, lets address your feelings on the so called lazy rich people who didn’t work for anything, along with these EVIL tax cuts.

Taxes paid by millionaire households more than doubled to $274 billion in 2006, from $136 billion in 2003. What happened in 2003? We rolled back the Clinton tax increases! No president has ever plied more money from the rich than George W. Bush did with his 2003 tax cuts. That alone should dismantle your argument. Now let’s address the issue of them not paying their “fair share”. According to 2008 IRS records, the top 1% (income higher than $389,000) of Americans were paying for nearly 40% of all federal income taxes. The top 10% in income, that's income above $108,904, paid 71% of all income taxes. Btw, you are considered “wealthy” if you and your spouse combined income is over $100,000, which if I may speak frankly is damn pathetic. But anyways! All in all, your top 50% of Americans are paying 97.1% of all federal income taxes. All the while your bottom 50% is paying a measly 2.9%. This group of people is given a plethora of welfare services (my favorite is a free cell phone, with unlimited texting) that leaves someone stuck paying the bill. Granted, I do agree with many welfare services. However these systems are largely broken and extremely abused.
#722 to #720 - joemand (09/15/2012) [-]
As for blaming our current situation on Bush lol? You are undoubtedly one of the biggest fools I’ve had the displeasure of knowing. Our problems were caused by the canton era, not the Bush era. Although I do like Clinton for many policies, he made disastrous mistakes. Such mistakes include NAFTA and forcing of banks to lend money to people they knew couldn’t pay back just so everyone could have house. Lol, yea we can clearly see how well that worked out (housing bubble, thus causing the major recession of 2008). Not only his, but Bush also had an all new type of war. But the most important thing we seem to neglect is the fact that the job rate was going up very well up until 2007 when the Democrats took the House and Senate 9refer to the picture to your left). Yet, Bush still raised out national debt 4.6 trillion dollars which is nothing to be proud of. This took him a grand total of 8 years, along with the help of NAFTA, the bubble, and the war. Within Obama’s first term, he has raised the debt 6 trillion dollars. Yup that’s right, our national debt is now at a whopping 16 trillion. If you honestly believe that won’t come back to hurt us, than you are truly naïve.

Listen, I could go on all day disproving your idiotic ideology. In fact, I’m two pages in and I have so much more to say. However, you’ve lost my interest. It only saddens me that people like you are what we call “college educated”. Welcome to a new era, where the self-entitled brats who have next to zero common sense are the ones who think their policies are the right ones. We’re so spoiled by our smart phones, big TV’s, nice communities that we completely forget to thank our ancestors for what we have. Instead we call for more, more, more.
#1112 to #722 - anon (09/15/2012) [-]
Its not common sense any more than it is knowledge, and that is something not many of us "college educated" people have, because we have low means of acquiring the knowledge we seek. We aren't taught anything about politics in school. Many of us are lead like sheep to be smart enough to run the machines for the rich and dumb enough not to question why. Give OP a break, he never found the opportunity or knowledge you did, but he tries.
#763 to #722 - anon (09/15/2012) [-]
Very nicely put! To add to your point about Clinton, we can't forget that he was the one that signed the PERMANENT trade agreement with China. Thus, opening the doors for tons of companies, such as Wal-Mart, to outsource American jobs.
User avatar #724 to #722 - joemand (09/15/2012) [-]
Damn essay work here
User avatar #718 to #716 - futuramafan (09/15/2012) [-]
dat tl dr
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