feels overload. .. I remember seeing this picture during basic training. The guy who got shot and in the second picture was a Staff Sergeant. Basically, they didn't lie down supre my god thats sad
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User avatar #8 - Ectheliun
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I remember seeing this picture during basic training. The guy who got shot and in the second picture was a Staff Sergeant. Basically, they didn't lie down supressive fire on the enemy before trying to go in drag him to cover. Since that wasn't done, the enemy could clearly get a shot off on the Sergeant. And thus, he became another casualty. So whereas most people see a picture of a marine who was willing to give his life to save a comrade, anyone who knows the story behind this picture sees a marine who, had they followed proper procedure to saving your wounded in the battlefield, did something that was considered dumb and now his squad is a man down.
#13 to #8 - beastfourtwenty
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Very true. Then right after a Corpsman ran out, with an M9 pistol, to try and help, but ran back to cover after the enemy started firing again at him. I don't see how this counts as feels/
User avatar #14 to #8 - theonlytinman
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Give him one!
#44 to #14 - BenDouver
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KILL!
#161 to #8 - anon id: e0507fe8
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You just referred a Staff Sergeant as Sergeant? To my knowledge you are supposed you address a Marine by his or her rank. To prove my point I learned this from a retired First Sergeant who was a DI and a mortar-ma and from a retired Lieutenant Colonel.
User avatar #162 to #161 - Ectheliun
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I'm in the army, if they're a Sergeant, Staff Sergeant, or Sergeant First Class, we call them all Sergeant. I'm not marines so I don't know all their customs. It varies from branch to branch. So yes, I'm going to call a staff sergeant, sergeant.
User avatar #3 - shadeyyy
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And I'm just sitting here taking pictures.
#6 to #3 - trojandetected
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**trojandetected rolled a random image posted in comment #735 at This is too perfect ** glad im not the only one who thought that.
#88 - rbpwn
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Guess he wasn't staying Frosty
Guess he wasn't staying Frosty
#36 - harasai
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his friend doesn't look saved to me

just saying
User avatar #109 to #36 - couriersix
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He gave his life trying to save his friend
User avatar #45 to #36 - whycanticaps
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I just noticed that, the large amount of space between the two suggests that he got shot while carrying his comrade, forcing him to drop him and tried to get away before dying too
#96 - happyfucktime
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why didn't he make sure someone was covering him? why did he just run out in the open?
User avatar #97 to #96 - herecomesjohnny
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i'm not sure, but i kinda think he was desperately dragging his friend to safety
User avatar #102 to #96 - multimedia
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Because sometimes life is cruel and in a moment of pain and weakness we don't think. Soldiers are still people, and people make stupid decisions in an emotional situation. If you saw Full Metal Jacket, they explain that this is a common guerilla tactic. Wound one guy, shoot whoever comes to help them.
#58 - anon id: b32a5f2f
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This is so fake. People falling for **** like this is why FJ is widely regarded as being full of ******* retarded little twelve year olds.
#126 to #58 - anon id: d8e9d0dd
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i hope you die choking on dicks
User avatar #78 to #58 - Ectheliun
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Actually... this is quiet real. This was my example during basic training about a year ago at Ft. Jackson. This was used during a lesson on providing cover fire with wounded battle buddies in the combat zone.
User avatar #79 to #78 - wymlan
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Army or Marine?
User avatar #80 to #79 - Ectheliun
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Army basic training. Marines do their basic strictly at Parris Island only.
#118 to #80 - ravenofgore
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Marines also do their basic at MCRD San Diego
User avatar #138 to #118 - Ectheliun
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Did not know that. MEPS always told us that all future Marines would be sent to Parris Island for Basic Training.
User avatar #81 to #80 - wymlan
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Right. Why didnt you join the Corps instead of the Army?
User avatar #82 to #81 - Ectheliun
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Army was just the first thing I looked at and it had the only recruiting station that I knew of near my house at the time.
User avatar #83 to #82 - wymlan
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Any reason you belive someone should or shouldnt join your divition of the military?
User avatar #84 to #83 - Ectheliun
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Personally, I've liked the Army a lot thus far. It's already planted me in Korea and I really like my job (IT Specialist) a lot. But as far as branches go, there isn't much I could say on them. Navy means you'll probably be on a boat a lot. Marines has the hardest basic and also is the considered the most serious of the branches. Army has the most jobs and is considered more laid back than Marines. Air Force has a lot of tech jobs. And coast guard you just have your job in the states. Each branch has its advantages and disadvantages. But I could really only tell you about Army since it's the only branch I've been in so far.
User avatar #86 to #84 - wymlan
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Ive already been comitted to the Marines, im a junior in highschool and they already have my name on the list. Everyone that serves, only join the Corps. There are at least 12 people graduating this year that will be sent to Paris Island. Then next year, about 7 or 8 of us will be shipped and planted in the USMC. Im not sure wiether to be determined or to just try to hurry my term up.
User avatar #130 to #86 - mistermofo
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In all seriousness I'm a marine of close to 3 years if you have any questions about boot camp or anything shoot me a message id be glad to tell you what i can.
User avatar #90 to #86 - Ectheliun
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You can at least try it out and see how it goes. The bright side about going to the Marines though is that if you really wanna make the military a career then if you want to switch branches, you don't have to do basic training all over again since Marines are considered the hardest basic training. But you'd have to find someone who is in the Marines to give you a better opinion on it all.
User avatar #92 to #90 - wymlan
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Right. Thanks for the insight. Try and keep on, keepin on. wymlan out
#50 - treborsivad
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#52 - omgroflcakes
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This always gets to me.
User avatar #10 - schnizel
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He didn't have to waste his life to save him.
If I was his commander I would have told him to stay.
User avatar #12 to #10 - lulzdealer
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"I will never leave a fallen comrade"
please go
User avatar #16 to #12 - sao
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At the same time, there is a reason they teach you now in basic training not to run out and try and do "heroic" things like this. Often all you end up with is an extra dead soldier.
User avatar #149 to #12 - schnizel
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You would if I smacked you in the face and told you to stay.
User avatar #15 to #12 - schnizel
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Think of it this way.
Losing 1 or 2 of your men.
What would you pick?
User avatar #19 to #15 - mikesch
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You must understand that there are ignorant ***** who believe there are heroes in war. And they become heroes by doing things like this. I am no pacifist and I believe that having comrades like in the military is a great thing... but after all many people only understand the theory behind war scenarios, and not the practicality of things to be done in warfare, especially in modern combat scenarios.

Don't waste your time on people who are brainwashed by propaganda.
User avatar #27 to #19 - schnizel
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Bunch of teenagers who think war is like BF, or COD.
User avatar #76 to #27 - mungdall
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Schnitzel! Stop slacking off and get back in the kitchen!
User avatar #148 to #76 - schnizel
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I was a commader you know.
User avatar #33 to #27 - bringitbitch
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What if you are the one who's hurt and can't do **** no more, And no one will help you. U WOULD CRY LITTLE BITCH
User avatar #48 to #33 - kaiserwilhelm
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i'm just commenting cuz you also have an icon from leo & satan
User avatar #67 to #48 - Natendragon
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That's Schnitzel from the show Chowder, not Leo and Satan.
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User avatar #20 to #10 - Crusader
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Does the phrase "No man left behind" ring any bells?

A soldier's first priority is to his own conscience, there is no point in in following orders if the regret of following them leads you to not be able to follow them at all.
User avatar #29 to #20 - tylersaurusrex
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A soldiers first priority is to be a soldier, not a hero. If you have an 8 man section (or squad, whichever takes your fancy) and a man goes down, and a man goes out to save him and gets shot, that drops 8 men, immediately down to 6. And you endanger the lives of everybody else, 1 man is not worth the life of 7 others. If you need to get a man out you do it AFTER the fire fight is one. The whole point of a re-org after a contact.
User avatar #121 to #29 - Crusader
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In that case, you are correct.
But that doesn't look like the scenario, it looks as if there is no fire fight occurring at that moment, it looks like a slightly injured soldier trying to help a soldier that is more severely injured and then collapsing because he is too tired to go on.

Not to mention, a soldier's first duty may be to be a soldier, but what kind of soldier is up to him.
He can be a soldier of fortune, a soldier of conscience, a soldier of the nation, honestly a soldier's first duty is to his own morality, if a soldier is feeling guilty about an order he carried out, he is going to be more of a burden than having no soldier at all.
User avatar #152 to #121 - tylersaurusrex
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If a guy goes down, and he is in the open, if the enemy has not been defeated, he will get shot. Simple as, every soldier knows not to do stupid **** like this. If Afghanistan a British company had 3 men go down in an ambush. They left them to reorganise and get light armour, they managed to save 2 lives, rather than blazingly pulling them out and getting the rest of the platoon killed. This is my whole point you don't go to "save" someone when you will put more than just that one person's life in jeopardy, you do it when you are prepared and you have the means to do so.
User avatar #30 to #29 - tylersaurusrex
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won*
User avatar #24 to #20 - PubLandlord
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woah, even if you disagree with the orders you have to follow them, I know it seems crazy but you have to trust your superiors, it's for yours and others safety, it is so paramount for a soldier not to choose what orders to follow but to follow them all, because otherwise the whole system can kind of collapse
User avatar #125 to #24 - Crusader
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I agree, but if an order goes against the very fibre of a soldier's being, then he should not carry it out, because afterwards, if the soldier has any morality and/or conscience, he is going to have remorse and that means that he is not going to be able to focus fully on the current task and that can lead to more deaths.

The kind of soldier you are talking about is the perfect soldier that has very little morality of his own and follows orders, but the problems is, there are still many soldiers that have a moral code that they hold above all else, and that leads to both reckless, and heroic choices.
User avatar #151 to #125 - PubLandlord
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No, if you're ordered not to break rank and do something reckless to save your friend you shouldn't do it, you may think that you're being heroic, and if you get injured it was worthwhile, but you reduce a squads number putting them in danger, you give your squads location away, you may **** up the future attempt at saving that friend with your entire squad.

It's easy to sit back and argue the philosophy of obeying orders, but if you start making exceptions then the whole way the army operates collapses. It's like in a democracy if something like gay marriage was voted with the majority against it would be more important for democracy's sake that it be illegal than politicians saying
"I know it was outvoted but we know better"

By disobeying an order you are openly saying you know better than your superiors and calling them out on their rank, some orders are designed to keep you safe.
User avatar #28 to #24 - schnizel
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I agree, the commanding officer is always the one with life experience.
User avatar #57 to #28 - sketchE
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no. the commanding "officer" on the tactical level is usually a guy with maybe six years total experience four of those were in cadet land. the squad leader has around 7-10
User avatar #26 to #20 - schnizel
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Life is better than death.
#23 - anon id: 79cebf9a
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GAWD BLES DA MUHREENS!
DEY FITE FOH MAH FREEDUMS!
GAWD BLESS 'MERICUH!
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