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sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-] Everyone depicts him still being a Jedi... But if he didn't fall to the Dark Side and the like, he would've been found out and excommunicated from the Jedi order. I'm almost positive that Obi-Wan knew the entire time and just didn't report it because he was Anikin's friend and didn't want to betray that trust.
And Yoda, Yoda knows ******* everything.
And Yoda, Yoda knows ******* everything.
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peliaosfiendline (01/07/2016) [-] Before Disney went "that's not canon" there was a whole book about how Obi-wan and another Jedi padawan fell in love with each other before TPM happened, but put it aside and put their duty first. She later died during a mission with her own padawan, Obi-wan, Ani, and Padme (yes, she weaseled her way into getting the Jedi to let her help with a Jedi mission, partly because it was a diplomacy based one) during the clone war.
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bibblesworth (01/07/2016) [-] I doubt Yoda knew, he was very much part of the "Old Guard" of Jedi who thought that Jedi couldn't be people, couldn't feel emotions for others, couldn't love etc etc etc and all that flawed logic that Luke ended up changing after Episode 7 with the New Jedi Order. At one point Anakin goes to Yoda and asks him for advice in regards to his nightmares about Padme suffering (he just says someone he cares for very deeply) and Yoda's response is just "Nah **** her, just let it go, you're a Jedi, emotional attachment ain't kosher yo".
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sptnfouroneseven ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] I'm aware he doesn't believe in it, just like the rest of the order, but doesn't mean he didn't feel it. I mean Obi-Wan felt a planet explode from lightyears away. And Yoda felt Order go into affect from again, Lightyears away.
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shadowstepone ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] Jedi are known to redeem themselves with strict meditation every once in a while- the dark side is very seductive, but it's not as if no one has ever returned to the light side.
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insanefreak (01/07/2016) [-]
Considering that Revan got back into the light and was accepted by the Jedi Council of that time, I think almost everyone could go back.
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anon (01/07/2016) [-]
yoda knows everything except that there has been a sith lord under his nose the whole time. "clouded by the dark side, the future is" ****** poser. Cant beat dooku, cant sense an incoming massacre, cant beat palpatine, too pussy to take on darth vader himself. Yoda is all hype.
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themagicdalek ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] That's because Palpatine was the most powerful Sith Master throughout all of Star Wars. He was able to hide his true power from all the Jedi including Yoda.
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motherfuckingkenji (01/07/2016) [-] >"Palpatine was the most powerful Sith Master throughout all of Star Wars"
***** he's not even in the top 10.
***** he's not even in the top 10.
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exacerbated (01/07/2016) [-] Haha for real, the old Sith Lords could have crushed Sidious in like a second
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vegasstoner ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
sooo before the movies happened? where does this information come from?
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motherfuckingkenji (01/07/2016) [-] Darth SIdious created light shows from his fingers as many Sith can do.
Darth Nihilus ate the life force of entire planets.
Darth Sidious built a device that could destroy planets
Darth Nihilus could have consumed all life in the entire galaxy and potentially the entire universe.
Because this is from SW:KOTOR 2, this is all canon.
Darth Nihilus ate the life force of entire planets.
Darth Sidious built a device that could destroy planets
Darth Nihilus could have consumed all life in the entire galaxy and potentially the entire universe.
Because this is from SW:KOTOR 2, this is all canon.
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umbrage ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] I figure it's more of a "hey I killed the sith apprentice who was waging a huge war against everyone, then I uncovered the sith master and betrayed him to the Jedi even though he promised me power and everything I wanted, so I'm gonna raise a family now unless there are some objections from you ungrateful ***** " situation.
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thepizzadevourer ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] In my mind, these comics are never "what if Anakin had somehow had a family" but instead "what if the Jedi Order didn't forbid marriage". As cool as the Old Jedi Order was, that rule always pissed me off. Sure, attachment can lead you to the Dark Side. But relationship also brings a ton of good emotions with it to: love, self-sacrifice, compassion. In my book, instead of forbidding all attachment and then screwing over the few people that inevitably did fall in love, they should've trained people to embrace the good in relationships, and showed them how to handle the bad. Anakin wasn't the only Jedi to marry in secret, by the way. There was at least one other that did the same, and probably a lot more we don't know about.
. . . And that's why I always liked Luke's New Jedi Order better. Oh, well, that's old canon anyways.
. . . And that's why I always liked Luke's New Jedi Order better. Oh, well, that's old canon anyways.
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anon (01/07/2016) [-]
The most common emotion that the Sith impressed onto disciples were fear and anger but it was actually any strong passion that tipped a force user to the dark side. As a force user, your strong love towards your spouse and children would easily tip you to the dark side when something drastic happened to them such as a murder or kidnapping. The light side of the force is in tranquility and peace of mind and this is how the Jedi order trained their members. These are the reasons why marriage was forbidden in the Jedi order and why grey Jedi were excommunicated from the order as these kind of Jedi were easily swayed into the dark side.
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greyblade (01/07/2016) [-]
that particular skill was pretty rare/difficult, and I don't see them pulling it on anakin.
firstly, he wouldn't let them
secondly, he's the chosen one. would they risk losing that?
more likely, he'd maintain a relationship with the jedi not unlike that of another master, whose name escapes me. she left the jedi to start her own family, but remained on good terms with the order.
firstly, he wouldn't let them
secondly, he's the chosen one. would they risk losing that?
more likely, he'd maintain a relationship with the jedi not unlike that of another master, whose name escapes me. she left the jedi to start her own family, but remained on good terms with the order.
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greyblade (01/07/2016) [-]
nah, wasn't bastilla. the one I'm thinking of was during the last years of the republic, not the KotoR days
plus, bastilla's good standing with the order wasn't quite the same. pre-first jedi purge, her good standing was sorta bought - Revan made a deal with the council not to spread his teachings in return for him and bastilla to be allowed to marry. after the first jedi purge, the jedi were made up of followers of the jedi exile - who quite possibly had a family, and whose leader - meetra surik - was a follower of revan. it was a much more family-friendly environment.
but nah, I can't remember that other jedi, tried looking around wookieepedia for her, but there's too many jedi to go through.
plus, bastilla's good standing with the order wasn't quite the same. pre-first jedi purge, her good standing was sorta bought - Revan made a deal with the council not to spread his teachings in return for him and bastilla to be allowed to marry. after the first jedi purge, the jedi were made up of followers of the jedi exile - who quite possibly had a family, and whose leader - meetra surik - was a follower of revan. it was a much more family-friendly environment.
but nah, I can't remember that other jedi, tried looking around wookieepedia for her, but there's too many jedi to go through.
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huntergriff ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-] I don't think anakin would have given a **** at that point. he even says after the first battle "I don't care if they know we're married, i'm tired of all this deception"
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huntergriff ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] Dooku left after qui-gon died, because qui-gon died. he thought the jedi order were assholes for not sending a strike team to kill Darth Maul. Then Palpatine seduced him with footage of qui-gon's death.
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killermuffin (01/07/2016) [-] He wasn't on the Jedi Council. He was a Grey Jedi but he actually didn't like the Council at all. Often defied them. He was the hippy of the Star Wars universe.
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dndxplain ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] my entire point is that it's in more than just legends.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dathomir/Legends
"Dathomir was considered a temperate and beautiful planet by Human standards, with a varied terrain that included coastal lakes and tar-pits, thick forests and snow-capped mountain peaks, powerful rivers and broad savannas, small icecaps and dramatic rift valleys."
sound accurate? it's not.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dathomir
Dathomir was a remote, neutral planet and the home of the Nightsisters. The planet, lit red by its central star, had numerous continents that were overrun with vegetation, forests, and swamplands.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dathomir/Legends
"Dathomir was considered a temperate and beautiful planet by Human standards, with a varied terrain that included coastal lakes and tar-pits, thick forests and snow-capped mountain peaks, powerful rivers and broad savannas, small icecaps and dramatic rift valleys."
sound accurate? it's not.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dathomir
Dathomir was a remote, neutral planet and the home of the Nightsisters. The planet, lit red by its central star, had numerous continents that were overrun with vegetation, forests, and swamplands.
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dndxplain ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] Empire at war is a part of the legends universe though. There's a major reason why it's seprate from the rest of canon. I'm not saying "hurr there are no grey jedi" I'm saying that they don't call people grey jedi. it's not like a major thing. It's like Dun Moch. A teaching, not a creed.
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herpderpaids (01/07/2016) [-]
Actually he was. He was a practitioner of both the dark and light sides of the force. It was the main reason that Palpatine couldn't beat him without Anakin being there. Palpatine had no way of properly fighting him
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darthsalias ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] that does not make him a grey jedi.
a grey jedi is much different
a grey jedi is much different
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dndxplain ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] you do remember that palpatine blew him the **** out in episode 3, correct? or did you just not watch the prequels?
the grey jedi do not believe in the light side of the force, yet mace windu was against letting anakin join the order because he felt the dark side within him.
the grey jedi do not believe in the light side of the force, yet mace windu was against letting anakin join the order because he felt the dark side within him.
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herpderpaids (01/07/2016) [-]
Firstly, only after Anakin disarmed him.
Secondly, it's been a while since I saw the Phantom Menace, so I don't remember what he said, so for no I'll concede that point.
Secondly, it's been a while since I saw the Phantom Menace, so I don't remember what he said, so for no I'll concede that point.
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dndxplain ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] Anakin wasn't even there.
It was Mace Windu and Kit Fisto as well as another jedi I can not remember. Palpatine killed kit and the other jedi and then mace windu disarmed him, to which he replied by using force unleash (lightning) and screaming that he had unlimited power.
It was Mace Windu and Kit Fisto as well as another jedi I can not remember. Palpatine killed kit and the other jedi and then mace windu disarmed him, to which he replied by using force unleash (lightning) and screaming that he had unlimited power.
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dndxplain ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] ah, you are right. but he still isn't a grey jedi
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mace_Windu
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mace_Windu
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ninjaroo (01/10/2016) [-] Ran out of reply space.
The reason behind it changes absolutely nothing about what I said. I never mentioned rules in English, besides which, you're factually wrong about there being no rules. Every language has rules. Sure, they may have been formalized long after their creation, but we literally wouldn't be able to communicate if it didn't have rules.
The reason behind it changes absolutely nothing about what I said. I never mentioned rules in English, besides which, you're factually wrong about there being no rules. Every language has rules. Sure, they may have been formalized long after their creation, but we literally wouldn't be able to communicate if it didn't have rules.
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vvthegreats (01/10/2016) [-]
I literally said they were formed long, long after the formation of the English language. And yes you did mention the "rules", hence why I mentioned it?
And what is reply space? Is that the number of times you can reply to the same person?
And what is reply space? Is that the number of times you can reply to the same person?
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ninjaroo (01/10/2016) [-] Oh, so I did. I misread my own comment, and as such am a total fool.
Yes, I meant the number of times you can reply. If you scroll down to >>#193, you can see that all the other comments have a "reply" button up the top right, but that one doesn't.
In any case, the rules were definitely defined by the time American English was formed. Words had defined spellings, hence why they could be changed. The rules behind verb conjugation and such would have been set as well.
Yes, I meant the number of times you can reply. If you scroll down to >>#193, you can see that all the other comments have a "reply" button up the top right, but that one doesn't.
In any case, the rules were definitely defined by the time American English was formed. Words had defined spellings, hence why they could be changed. The rules behind verb conjugation and such would have been set as well.
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vvthegreats (01/10/2016) [-]
Again: Rules can change because of geographic displacement and rivalry and pride.
And thanks for informing me. Now I know why that happens. It has been happening a lot to me recently.
And thanks for informing me. Now I know why that happens. It has been happening a lot to me recently.
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vvthegreats (01/07/2016) [-]
. . . wat
Do you explain what you're talking about properly bruv? Lol.
Do you explain what you're talking about properly bruv? Lol.
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vvthegreats (01/07/2016) [-]
Then it has not been simplified it has been changed. Big difference.
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ninjaroo (01/08/2016) [-] If something is simplified, it was made more simple. American English was what came from some dude sitting down one day and deciding that using "ou" to sometimes make an "o" sound, and an "s" to sometimes make a "z" sound, and for "re" to make a "er" sound was silly. He made it more simple by removing the exceptions to each rule of the English language. There is no ambiguity here. American English is simplified English.
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vvthegreats (01/10/2016) [-]
You do know that most of them were in protest to Britain, right? Because, you know, when America was first formed we still despised Britain and Britain still despised us. And there are no rules in English, only mnemonics. The rules were created much, much later after the formation of the English language.
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anon (01/07/2016) [-]
Don't try to be bismuth; you're not that edgy.
I cannot tell if you're attempting at insulting the fact that I live in America or you do, but the color is literally spelt GRAY, not GREY. Grey is a geographical feature (hence why Liam Neeson starred in his movie "The Grey" and not "The Gray". English, ************ , do you speak it?
Gray being a combination of black and white which are COLORS, not geographical features, is more correct. Colors, ************ , do you know them?
I cannot tell if you're attempting at insulting the fact that I live in America or you do, but the color is literally spelt GRAY, not GREY. Grey is a geographical feature (hence why Liam Neeson starred in his movie "The Grey" and not "The Gray". English, ************ , do you speak it?
Gray being a combination of black and white which are COLORS, not geographical features, is more correct. Colors, ************ , do you know them?
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drakonpunch (01/07/2016) [-] I never understood this concept. The whole point of the dark and the light side was originally to make a clear separation between good and evil, without any gray middle ground. The OT was an homage to older films where it was always good vs evil.
It is part of what makes Star Wars so unique. Why would they **** with that?
It is part of what makes Star Wars so unique. Why would they **** with that?
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drakonpunch (01/07/2016) [-] You can do that without completely altering the pre-established universe though. I mean look at Spider-Man. The bad guys are bad and Spidey is good. It works. Yes, some of the villains are a little grey, but they still belong to the "evil" side. See what I mean? I mean Vader also showed some good, but he was still definitely on the dark side.
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epicalania (01/07/2016) [-] Grey Jedi was an order that rose up along the concept of balance, but more literal than the Jedi.
The Jedi existed to balance the darkness. They acted as the weight at the opposite end of the pivot.
The Grey Jedi were the fulcrum, they'd settle things peacefully if that was best, or execute the ****** who needed it. Peace was not their goal, balance was.
The Jedi existed to balance the darkness. They acted as the weight at the opposite end of the pivot.
The Grey Jedi were the fulcrum, they'd settle things peacefully if that was best, or execute the ****** who needed it. Peace was not their goal, balance was.
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authvin (01/07/2016) [-] You're thinking of the Je'daii, the original Jedi on Tython before the first war between Light side and Dark side
Grey Jedi are simply force users that don't follow the Jedi code or the Sith code, and draw on both the light and dark side of the force. This "Grey Jedi Order" people keep fanboying about, and the code they post with it, don't appear in Legends at all.
Grey Jedi are simply force users that don't follow the Jedi code or the Sith code, and draw on both the light and dark side of the force. This "Grey Jedi Order" people keep fanboying about, and the code they post with it, don't appear in Legends at all.
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authvin (01/07/2016) [-] Je'daii Code that people altered into that 'grey jedi' **** :
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.
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brobyddark ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] The grey jedi didn't have an order- that was the point. There was no good side or bad side or even any factions. Just the force and the user.
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brobyddark ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] From what I've read on the wookiepedia, they were not Gray Jedi. Only seen as gray. Gray Jedi call upon both the light and dark side of the force. The Imperial Knights didn't use the dark force, but they didn't adhere to the light's rules. They were light users without the ******** .
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darthsalias ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-] no. he just was the only master other then yoda to be able to learn study and use sith holocrons and techniques.
grey jedi whould be the exile and arcann and his justicars
grey jedi whould be the exile and arcann and his justicars
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randomsnail ONLINE (01/07/2016) [-]
Are you forgetting his mastery of Vapaad, which was originally a sith saber style and is the most aggressive of saber styles, seeing as it uses the wielders anger to increase the power of the style.
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thechosentroll (01/06/2016) [-] Nah, those are a completely different thing. A jedi that gets kicked out is just an ex-jedi. Also known as a random person, who's force sensitive. Not everyone who could use the force was instantly drafted as a jedi.
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adamdavid (01/06/2016) [-] actually him getting discovered early on might have kept him from turning to the dark side. he gets booted out of the order and moves in with padme from there he either finds work in the private sector or settles down early with the kids and just winds up a stay at home dad
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jokervsbatsy (01/06/2016) [-] Then again, him getting kicked out of the order would make him super mad and would fall more easily into the hands of Palpatine, thus making the same **** but earlier on.
We all want Anakin to have a happy life, but it's too hard to come true.
We all want Anakin to have a happy life, but it's too hard to come true.
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huntergriff ONLINE (01/06/2016) [-] and palpatine probably would have found another patsy.
