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True dat. But I hear ya OP. That's bullshit.

Agreed.. and it was my mother who ratted my asthma out.. I was 17 when I first went to enlist and the first thing she said to him was that I have asthma...

Lol moms ruin everything. Always caring about their kids and shit... geez...

yep...

Yeah but if they sense asthma you get handled much differently. I run every day long distance without issue... Yet still disqualified.

yeah I know, a lot of my buddies tried joining with me and we were all shit hot...but some of them had childhood asthma and couldn't, best thing to do is to not get discouraged and keep doing whatever you have been doing

Yeah I still wake up early and pt. I'll just be the best cop I can be and just keep on keeping on.

just dont be one of the dick ones that look for military on purpose and try to get them in trouble because they couldn't join

I support anyone going into the service. The recruiters tried their hardest to get me in. Even supported me during pt and helped me get a pt group together.I wouldn't betray my family.

are you still gonna go to the poolees pt and stuff? extra motivation for those that can go

Let me put it this way I was "not there." Just a lil waiver to keep people out of trouble. (You aren't allowed to work out with them at functions and at stations) However they still go to the gym a couple miles from there so of course I'll still PT with them. Even though only one of the ones from the group is left. (the new guide) Trust me my recruiter tells the pooles every pt that there is a guy wanting to be a Marine who can't go. At one of the pts "i wasn't at" he said that to the pooles that there are more motivated people that want to be a poole then some that are. I dropped a couple hints in there..

Join the Navy as a corpsman for the Marines. You still get to work with them.

Can't DQ goes across the board. I can't even go Airforce...

Weird, my brother had a heart condition and was turned down for the marines but he got into the Rangers.

That's weird?! Rangers is just as hard as Marine Infantry. Both NCOICs told me the same thing if one DQs me i'm done. (I'm referring to the Army and Marine NCOICs that I spoke to before making my final decision)

Man that really sucks, come to Canada! :) We pay better anyways :P lol

My family is like 8/10th American 2/10th Canadian, and I swear every male in my American living family are in the Military, and a few here in the Canadian ones as well. I love our troops of both countries and I will always support them, including the ones such as you who worked so hard to defend our great countries but was denied because of a non-existent health problem.

:( You should be proud of your accomplishment even though they didn't let you in.

Trust me I am. Since I first signed the papers I've lost 20lbs, got back into the shape i was my senior year. A little more work and I'll be better then I was then.

"I bet he could still join the coast guard"

Why not try that?

"thats why you lie about asthma" - Apprentice Seaman "Sanchez" Shafer

My brothers reply to me telling him your story.

o.o I'm broke. Is there any broke superheroes? If not then I'll become Bankruptman >:D

Heh If I get reincarnated (athiest, but you never know) I'll try to remember that XD

Well I hope you do find some way to get in. I'm joining Force Recon when I get in. I already meet all the pre enlistment qualifications.

So far unless there is a war and they bring back the draft there is no way. (I had a long conversation about this with the recruiter... He said that's the only way.)

Depends on how old you are during your last asthma attack. The Marines consider 12 to be the oldest for "childhood asthma" However if you are going to tell them go off what your medical records say. If there is nothing past 12 then you know nothing, I know nothing. I don't know what you are talking about. (I don't think that gets clearer)

I'm not saying to do this (HINT HINT) but they don't have access to your health records. Just remember what ever you tell your recruiter you tell the Drs at MEPS. If they sense anything is up you can get into some crap.

I'M not SAYING TO NOT TELL THEM YOU HAVE ASTHMA. oops... caps >_>

I'll add one more thing.. My mom was the one who told the Army I had asthma. Otherwise they had no idea. The process for the waiver is long and drawn out. They told me at the most it would be 6 months for a reply. (The new NCOIC apparently knew people and got it done in the two weeks he was there... Sorta made a red flag, but at least now I know.) You will need all paperwork from your doctors. Any medicine and treatments. I wasn't on any meds and I haven't seen a doctor for anything other then routine physicals. (still rejected) So what ever you do be very careful and expect a lot of waiting. I went and did pt with the Pooles while I wait. Keep in mind you can't PT at poole functions, but there are ways around everything.

Start studying the Orders as well as Marine history.

I learned that you don't have to tell them about medical issues when a friend of mine told the recruiters he had Chrones disease, obviously they rejected him. I should be fine from what you described, as while I've had asthma my whole life, its never been a huge problem and I've not had an attack that I can remember.

I assumed marines, but for any branch you will need to study your orders and history. Makes your life at basic much easier and if you are ahead on PT and knowledge there is a chance you can graduate as an E4 (this doesn't include marines) or E3 (thats marines)
JROTC gets you PFC however they can demote you if you are... well not doing well at basic.

You assumed correct, I plan on joining the marines after college. Feel stupid asking this, but what is PT and what do you mean to study "orders"

PT is going to be your best friend as a Poole. Physical training.
Orders change by branch. For you it's the 11 General Orders. It's orders that no matter the rank or position you must follow. Even the tech guys like Skippy (PFC in 25 Bravo Army) get guard duty time to time.
The guide that I had when I first switched from Army to Marine recruiters told me the easiest way to remember. To take, To Walk, To Report, To Repeat, To Quit, To Receive, To Talk, To Give, To Call, To Salute, To Be. Disregard the grammar and it will help you remember all 11 orders quickly.
From there you will need to know when and where the Marines were first established. 1775 Tun Tavern Philadelphia Penn.

Um... How did you get in? The only reason why they even attempted is because the NCOIC saw that I was willing to do anything to get in.. He told me 50/50 (then he was transferred and the new NCOIC got back to me immediately and said DQ)

waivers like a mother fucker.

You're fortunate then. We tried to do a waiver. I worked with three Marine recruiters who tried everything. They even had me go back to my doctors to get more info to prove that I had childhood asthma and no issues. MEPS doctors felt differently.

redo MEPS there are like 3 docs who check lung&heart and one is a dick. so if you go again you should do fine

They wont let me. Unless there's another way to get around this? I was told if one DQ me then there isn't anything I can do?

well if its permanent for marines try another branch.

They told me DQ is for all branches. Maybe I should talk to another recruiter to see.

yeah cant hurt

Yeah the worst they could tell me is no..

good luck i hope you get in.

Thanks

I think i'm the lesson for everyone who wants to go in.

Can't disqualification goes to all branches.

well fuck

Yeah... When I went and spoke to the Marines my old info from five years ago put a two week delay on my med read.

I was going into an information field. Even though every Marine is a rifleman, there wasn't any chance of me going to war.

Something I should have done xP

I tried that as well.. Two doctors cleared me. Their doctors still said no.

Thought about it, but my friend who is a police officer told me they could use me and they told me to go sign up for classes.

You sir made my day.
Thank you!

You're welcome man. It sucks working hard for something and then end up getting fucked.

Yep, was my dream. Yet it's not all bad. I can still go to school and become a police officer... I'll be one of the good cops here XD

They told me if one branch DQ me all branches will not accept me.

Well we can become the best cops we can be... They get paid well. Still disappointing though..

yeah it is disapointing. i hope you end up doing something youre happy with man

Thanks same goes for you

Well it's mostly waiting around so so be nervous for the physical.

They already postponed it because they needed some med docs for my past fractures. hopefully that wont get me disqualified

I haven't seen anyone go in with fractures so I wouldn't know. The only other waiver that enlisted the same time as me had to get tattoos removed. He had some badass tattoos, but he felt the Marines was more important. He is now the Guide.

I don't want to lie because i might have to get a top secret clearance in my future, so would it make a huge difference when i tell them that i used to smoke weed?

That could get you into trouble... especially since they do a drug test. How long ago was it?

june 1st, i remember because it was at the end of the shool year party. im confident i could pass, but should i try to get a waiver?

i didnt smoke that much and ive stopped

Hmm as long as there is no record of this I wouldn't mention it. The less things you need waivers for the better. Now i'm not telling you this, but you know where im going with this.

(wink)