New Vegas Brotherhood be like
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captaintoasty (12/23/2015) [-] Also, the hunting rifle's bolts being on the left side triggers me.
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captaintoasty (12/23/2015) [-] The prblem I see is that:
1) Wouldn't the hot brass eject into your face or onto your body?
2) Don't you have to reshoulder your rifle and get your target into your sights every time you have to fire?
I dunno. If I'm wrong correct me. I've always used a rifle with the bolt on the right side, irl and in games.
1) Wouldn't the hot brass eject into your face or onto your body?
2) Don't you have to reshoulder your rifle and get your target into your sights every time you have to fire?
I dunno. If I'm wrong correct me. I've always used a rifle with the bolt on the right side, irl and in games.
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valintina (12/23/2015) [-] The left handed bolt like in Fallout 4 is the same as the other aforementioned tactical rifles. The ejector is on the same side as it would be for a regular rifle, the casings eject to the right.
Also, the left hand bolts are more designed with the intent of the shooter laying on the ground, using a bi-pod, or resting the rifle on an object to stabilize it. Regular rifles are used more for a mobile shooter, like in Fallout 4 where it is more useful for the player to shoot and scoot.
Also, the left hand bolts are more designed with the intent of the shooter laying on the ground, using a bi-pod, or resting the rifle on an object to stabilize it. Regular rifles are used more for a mobile shooter, like in Fallout 4 where it is more useful for the player to shoot and scoot.
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captaintoasty (12/23/2015) [-] How did I not notice that. Thanks man, pinkies for you
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hateandwhiskey (12/23/2015) [-] you'd be surprised how many people keep their greasy faces buried in terminals more than they do gunning down degenerates.
gotta get dat dat dat lore before todd ***** it up even more.
gotta get dat dat dat lore before todd ***** it up even more.
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hateandwhiskey (12/24/2015) [-] the moment they based a fallout game on the east coast is when they ****** it up
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Think you're real clever, like you got everything figured out...
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Not everything. You lack an idea worth fighting and dying for, and moral integrity to persist through the generations. (I wager you'd kill your own family if there were enough caps in it for you Profligate. Democracy nothing. If it wasn't for the Courier, You'd have lost the Dam and everything, Legion would have persisted, with or without some Godlike Avatar intervening on either behalf. NCR will crumble under its own greed, while the Cult of Mars will reign eternal. Gods don't need to lie to the populace for votes, politicians do! You're the reason War never changes, Caesar would have ended the cycle. Even if he passed, Lanius would continue His legacy, as would his successor, ad infinitum. Ave, true to Caesar, now, and Forever.
Never Forgetti,Profligetti.
Git Gud, Casul
Never Forgetti,Profligetti.
Git Gud, Casul
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] I think it's more like "can't read." You hired an obvious idiot to run a pre-war power plant, have inept military intelligence ( a poor hostage negotiator, bumbling bureaucrats, etc.), and struggle to cultivate proper agriculture without the use of Super Plant Monsters. The Legion, however, have excellent cartography for trade route establishment; basic yet uncomplicated understanding of economics, trading with stable hard currency (Inflation can kiss my ass, NCR Dollars); actually write out well-detailed documents for even simple transactions like slave trades, leaving no room for clerical error; every male is a soldier with in-depth knowledge in wilderness survival, carpentry, metalforging (how else would would they build boats and forts), emergency medical practice, weapons repair, basically even a grunt is on par with an NCR Ranger; and while not everyone's a Legatus, the Legionaries obviously know military tactics. On top of being self reliant, all Legionaries know three languages: Latin, English, and their own tribal dialect. Basically, Caesar's Legion is chock full of academic brainiacs and Rambos, and NCR is just retarded.
Ave, true to Caesar.
Profligate Retard.
Git Gud, Profligate.
Oh, and our spies successfully infiltrated your base and demolished your monorail system.
All your base are belong to us.
Profligate F**ktard.
Git Gud, Profligate.
Can't read for **** , but you'd recognize your profligate kind as your lead HELIOS One Scientist..
Ave, true to Caesar.
Profligate Retard.
Git Gud, Profligate.
Oh, and our spies successfully infiltrated your base and demolished your monorail system.
All your base are belong to us.
Profligate F**ktard.
Git Gud, Profligate.
Can't read for **** , but you'd recognize your profligate kind as your lead HELIOS One Scientist..
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austinrocket (12/23/2015) [-] I just stuck with the NCR, killed House and the Legion and then turned around and Killed the NCR so I could be supreme ruler/mailman of the wasteland!
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austinrocket (12/23/2015) [-] Oh yeah, I also killed all of the people running the other casinos so I could have a monopoly.
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Wars are not won by machines, they are won by men!
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Legion's got safer trade routes, more disciplined Legionaries, less corporate corruption, AND PIZZA!!!!
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thebaconstripman (12/23/2015) [-] and a dumb leader who you can eventually do his brain surgery, jsut the choose to kill him cause he basically let you. jk tho, I love doing the Leigon stuff the most for some reason. Something about it is fun to me.
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] I may render unto Caesar, but I know a best possible scenario when it presents itself. You got my thumb.
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Dood, Legion had the upper hand before the Courier ran around. If he stayed out of it, Legion would have eventually taken over. It was (near) inevitable. That's canon enough for me.
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-]
Remember, the Courier that was running around was also the same person that saved Caesar's life
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
That's the risk taken: NCR wanted to believe the Legion would fall apart without their precious old blob of a 'leader,' but Lanius proves to be absolutely loyal to Caesar, and everyone is equal parts True to Caesar Ave as they are scared of Lanius, which is very... I will concede that Lanius would lead the Legion on some suicide Crusade (as we do see in Legion ending where they fail to capture the Enclave Remnants.). My point being that the Legion won't dissolve from wtihin unlike what NCR was going through.
Ave True to Caesar.
Ave True to Caesar.
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-]
Yes, Lanius would finish the job without Caesar. But as you yourself stated he would most likely end up dead not long afterwards along with a ******** of his soldiers and leave the rest of the legion without proper leadership. The legion was very stable and safe for those that stick to its laws, but that is only for as long as someone's around to keep it that way.
Independent Vegas is the way to go ****** Legion scum
Independent Vegas is the way to go ****** Legion scum
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Aww! Just when I thought I was in good company, a profligate ambush!
Ave, true to Caesar!!!
Now I'm the one who's got to Git Gud...
I respect your cunning.
Ave, true to Caesar!!!
Now I'm the one who's got to Git Gud...
I respect your cunning.
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-] I definitely like the idea of an independent Vegas though
But **** me that ranger armor is just too sexy so my true allegiance will always lie there
But **** me that ranger armor is just too sexy so my true allegiance will always lie there
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] But as a true Independent, you can take the Ranger Duds for yourself, with the Securitrons as your new Immortal Machine Legion using Caesar's Military Intelligence as the new Neural Network for the Robots. It's perfect! Something for Everybody!
Official Album of Independent Vegas. You know you want it to be...
Official Album of Independent Vegas. You know you want it to be...
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-]
I've killed my fair share of rangers for their armor. But sometimes the person in the suit matters too, so I make sure to be sneaky about it to preserve my relations with them
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] You got what it takes to be a Frumentarius...
Vulpes Inculta approves.
Vulpes Inculta approves.
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-]
The number of times I killed that bastard...
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I spared him after seeing him at Nipton and that's saying a lot
Only once for the sole purpose of completion did I allow myself to fully join the Legion. It really ******* sucked. I wish they had more time to flesh them out properly
Get that **** out of here , scum
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I spared him after seeing him at Nipton and that's saying a lot
Only once for the sole purpose of completion did I allow myself to fully join the Legion. It really ******* sucked. I wish they had more time to flesh them out properly
Get that **** out of here , scum
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] You're only proving my point, Profligate. I leave you with one last message...
Git Gud.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUqcgabS86A
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHuCDDzP-E
Git Gud.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUqcgabS86A
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHuCDDzP-E
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einsampibroch ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-]
I wouldn't want to say it outright, but there's no official true ending. So yeah, nothing the Courier does after his brush with Benny in Good springs is canon. Inversely, everything that is without the courier's interference is canon.
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shadowdoogen (12/23/2015) [-] I'll make my own Brotherhood of Steel, with blackjack and hookers.
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froggernaught (12/23/2015) [-]
" **** you brotherhood. We're ready at a minutes notice with our own damn airships!" -Minutemen General.
Like everything else minute men it is kind of shoddy but it works. It just works.
Like everything else minute men it is kind of shoddy but it works. It just works.
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anon (12/23/2015) [-]
Difference between New Vegas' BoS and FO 4?
I didn't blow up the bunker in New Vegas. Because they weren't a bunch of fascist assholes
In my heart Danse is a minutemen
I didn't blow up the bunker in New Vegas. Because they weren't a bunch of fascist assholes
In my heart Danse is a minutemen
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] *Killing the homicidal robots, zombies, and supermutants
If you haven't noticed, they never attack non-feral ghouls, aside from raiders.
If you haven't noticed, they never attack non-feral ghouls, aside from raiders.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] Only one there that's homicidal is strong. They dislike the rest but never attack them.
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lostreticale (12/23/2015) [-] they don't dislike Curie they haven't said **** against her
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] I actually have yet to have her follow me, so I wasn't sure.
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lostreticale (12/23/2015) [-] haha yea, they don't say **** against her for some reason. I guess they just like her or something
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] Well, she is a robot given a humanoid body, she has little more "free will" and thought than a Mr. Gutsy.
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lostreticale (12/23/2015) [-] nah she has free will now, the whole reason she turned into a synth is to have human inspiration and free will
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kaimera (12/23/2015) [-]
While they don't attack them in game, they have stated several times they wish to wipe out the synths, mutants, ghouls, and children of atom.
ALL of them. They never say "feral ghoul" "hostile mutant" or "institute synth"
Also, they are persecuting members of one of the biggest post war religions. And you can be sure that if Maxton asked they wouldn't think twice about destroying the minutemen, the railroad, diamond city etc..
unfortunately, Maxton seems to be turning them into enclave 2.0.
ALL of them. They never say "feral ghoul" "hostile mutant" or "institute synth"
Also, they are persecuting members of one of the biggest post war religions. And you can be sure that if Maxton asked they wouldn't think twice about destroying the minutemen, the railroad, diamond city etc..
unfortunately, Maxton seems to be turning them into enclave 2.0.
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galanorth ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] "Also, they are persecuting members of one of the biggest post war religions."
Buddy, have you even run into those guys? They kill people with gamma guns on sight, to fill them with "Atom's Glory." Even in Fallout 3 they irradiated any aqua pura they got their homicidal hands on.
Buddy, have you even run into those guys? They kill people with gamma guns on sight, to fill them with "Atom's Glory." Even in Fallout 3 they irradiated any aqua pura they got their homicidal hands on.
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galanorth ONLINE (12/24/2015) [-] Actually, the ones in the crater are the exception, not the rule. Literally every single freaking Child of Atom outside of the glowing sea is immediately hostile, and will kill anyone they see by filling them with "the Holy Glow." If you read one of their terminals, just north of Greygarden, they set up a shrine to gamma radiation, and killed innocent caravans and merchants. Those murderers were not some crazy offshoot, they were run of the mill Children of Atom.They worship and exalt gamma radiation and glorify it's spread. That is their prime feature. A religion who's prime feature is spreading gamma radiation should be exterminated, given their willingness to kill innocents with gamma guns and nuka grenades, what do you think will happen when they find a full sized nuclear warhead? How many people will they kill then? How many people will the resulting ghouls kill later? In DC there is an entire warehouse filled with nukes of similar potency to the one in megaton, what if they found that place? In the commonwealth there is a nuclear submarine with a fully functional ICBM warhead of similar potency to the nuke that single handedly destroyed Boston and created the glowing sea, what if they found that?
I'm not judging a peaceful religion on a few extremists, I am judging an extremist cult despite the few isolationists. This isn't like judging Christianity for the Westboro Baptist Church, this is like judging ISIS for being ISIS.
I'm not judging a peaceful religion on a few extremists, I am judging an extremist cult despite the few isolationists. This isn't like judging Christianity for the Westboro Baptist Church, this is like judging ISIS for being ISIS.
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thesovereigngrave (12/23/2015) [-] Hey, the Aqua Pura thing wasn't the Children of Atom. It was the Apostles of the Holy Light, who actively split off from the Children of Atom.
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iamthetoaster (12/23/2015) [-] despite never outright attacking non-feral ghouls, a lot of brotherhood characters frown upon ghouls in general. While the brotherhood may be performing a good task, it's not because they're good people. A pretty decent majority of the FO4 BoS high ranking people (Paladins and upwards) are super duper racist. They don't express the idea of "We should protect settlements from hostile super mutants and feral ghouls" they have a mentality of "ghouls and super mutants are abominations" regardless of sentience, intelligence, or whether or not a group of super-mutants happens to be one of the few peaceful one (not that i've encountered any friendly super mutants other than strong in FO4, but it's been established that they exist, in FONV)
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kinginthenorth (12/23/2015) [-] Fawkes from Fallout 3 was also a friendly Super Mutant.
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fawkes
Although he was more of a special case among Super Mutants. It seems like friendly Super Mutants, or atleast Super Mutants with a general level of intelligence, are a rare exception.
fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fawkes
Although he was more of a special case among Super Mutants. It seems like friendly Super Mutants, or atleast Super Mutants with a general level of intelligence, are a rare exception.
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comradewinter (12/23/2015) [-]
Strong hate rather than genocide doesn't make it better. Attacking anything and anyone that isn't human would be waging open war against the Commonwealth, which wouldn't be very wise.
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thechosentroll (12/23/2015) [-] They were still total dicks in New Vegas. Not once did I feel bad for blowing their asses up.
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thechosentroll (12/23/2015) [-] McNamara was the only decent one. The rest were assholes, who wanted to just shoot everything within a 5km radius of the bunker just cause. Plus, if you overthrow him and appoint one of the assholes, they actually decide to attack the NCR rather than help them, because they decide the NCR is weak and will be easy pickings. Dicks. All of 'em.
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teamrocketninja (12/23/2015) [-] Having put hundreds of hours into both, I tend to agree. So much more variety and things to do in NV, Here's hoping Obsidian takes Fallout 5.
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ashendashin (12/23/2015) [-]
Probably just gonna be another separate title released in 2 or so years with significantly greater quality that Bethesda will continue to ignore while making massive profits off it.
**** I really hope they do that again
**** I really hope they do that again
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teamrocketninja (12/23/2015) [-] Me too man. Me too. I think maybe they trade off and on again, every other title. Bethesda does East coast, Obsidian does western NCR type stuff. I'd be happy.
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metacobalion (12/23/2015) [-] I really hope that's true and not a misunderstanding like Fallout New Orleans.
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metacobalion (12/23/2015) [-] Josh Sawyer the project director and lead designer of New Vegas posted some Louisiana Field notes books on his instagram and for a little while people thought it was a teaser for a possible Fallout New Orleans game.
www.instagram.com/p/-xJOP-Jx4t/
www.instagram.com/p/-xJOP-Jx4t/
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sexyhimself ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] 3 Weeks ago?
I mean, the possibility is still there, no?
I mean, the possibility is still there, no?
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metacobalion (12/23/2015) [-] While he has expressed interest in making another Fallout game, he said the instagram post had nothing to do with Fallout on his twitter, it's possible yes, but the whole thing was a misunderstanding.
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thesovereigngrave (12/23/2015) [-] Well that's a pity; a Fallout game set in New Orleans sounds like it'd be pretty ******* sweet.
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fuzzyballs (12/23/2015) [-] they probably won't
but Bethesda already did it once before, maybe we'll get a Fallout 4 1.5
but Bethesda already did it once before, maybe we'll get a Fallout 4 1.5
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darthsalias (12/23/2015) [-] oh yeah!? ill make my own airship with blackjacks and hookers!!!
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thebaconstripman (12/23/2015) [-] unrelated, but I love that the laser guns have way more effectiveness and power than 3/NV did. They felt like the pipe guns of 3/NV, while in 4 they actually have some usefulness.
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rockstarownage ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-]
i do love wrecking **** with an automatic split laser rifle.
and oh god does plasma feel great.
and oh god does plasma feel great.
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schneidend (12/23/2015) [-] They're actually very strong in New Vegas...if you take the relevant perks. Just one of those imbalance things that often creep into the Fallout games.
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Einsty ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] Well, they pretty much ditched the whole skill system an replaced it entirely with perks. It may not be truest to the series, but the new system suits me better. It doesn't make sensless distinction between energy weapons and standard guns like the old one did. Principles of shooting a rifle are the same, while they are different from shooting short arms or melee combat.
That being said, I would have appreciated an option to strip down a gun into individual mods instead of scrapping it altogether or having to build the basic part when all I want is that frickin scope.
That being said, I would have appreciated an option to strip down a gun into individual mods instead of scrapping it altogether or having to build the basic part when all I want is that frickin scope.
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schneidend (12/23/2015) [-] If your weapons are super good without you having to specialize in them at all, they're not very balanced weapons. It's no secret that New Vegas' ballistic weapons are overpowered, even after they nerfed the crit chance on sniper rifles. When I play an RPG, even an action RPG, I like to be able to build around certain items, whether it be weapons, armor, or a magic necklace that just happens to make my goofy-ass build work.
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Einsty ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] I can understand that, but you can do this by manipulating reload speed, improving time it takes to clear a jam and reducing weapon sway. But having a pistol have trouble killing a radroach on lvl1 and oneshooting a deathclaw at lvl99 using the same weapon and ammo, it just breaks immersion.
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schneidend (12/23/2015) [-] Not really. Your character progressed, and became more skilled, which is exactly the sort of thing skills and perks are meant to simulate. You start off as some kid with a pistol and become Vash the Stampede.
Also, radroaches are pretty much killed in one hit by every single weapon.
Also, radroaches are pretty much killed in one hit by every single weapon.
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thebaconstripman (12/23/2015) [-] Same with pip guns in 4 though. Enough mods to it and it can be pretty good. It's just **** at first.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] YFW The NCR gets the Boomers to repair the planes in McCarran and Searchlight.
can now easily go east.
can now easily go east.
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sheepnut (12/23/2015) [-]
Even in the ending where the Boomers start sending people out into the wasteland to trade with NCR, they still don't let people into Nellis, so I wouldn't count on it.
Although the NCR showing up to match the Brotherhood's air superiority would make me cum buckets
Although the NCR showing up to match the Brotherhood's air superiority would make me cum buckets
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] I did not say anything about anyone going IN Nellis, I said NCR would Hire the Boomer to fix the planes in McCarran and Searchlight. NCR has Virtibirds so they have pilots and gear to train them but more planes would not hurt.
most of the intact planes we see in NV look like private Cesna types and they could easily fit them with small arms with the Boomers and Gun Runners help to serve as scout planes.
and if the Boomers can repair an old 200 year old water logged B52 they can easily repair those.
most of the intact planes we see in NV look like private Cesna types and they could easily fit them with small arms with the Boomers and Gun Runners help to serve as scout planes.
and if the Boomers can repair an old 200 year old water logged B52 they can easily repair those.
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fuzzyballs (12/23/2015) [-] 1) why would the Boomers do that
2) why would they train anyone that's not a Boomer to fly a plane
3) why would they want to fly planes for other factions
2) why would they train anyone that's not a Boomer to fly a plane
3) why would they want to fly planes for other factions
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] 1) they'd get some of it for themselves. also CAPS and FOOD and MUNNITIONS from Gun Runners and NCR.
2) NCR ALREADY HAS VIRTIBIRDS AND PILOTS I said this already
3) like I said again, they are just HIRED to FIX the ones in McCarran and Searchlight.
2) NCR ALREADY HAS VIRTIBIRDS AND PILOTS I said this already
3) like I said again, they are just HIRED to FIX the ones in McCarran and Searchlight.
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fuzzyballs (12/23/2015) [-] 1) they are self sufficient, they don't need caps or food, and they have ammo enough to last them a while
2) you were taking about planes, not choppers
3) again, why WOUld they DO that
******* bitch-ass caps mothafocka
2) you were taking about planes, not choppers
3) again, why WOUld they DO that
******* bitch-ass caps mothafocka
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] 1) Key word is A While. they do not have the manufacturing capabilities that the NCR has access to and from the looks of it aside from crops and pre-war food stores they dont have access to fresh meat that again can be traded for their service.
2) flying Virtibird of any kind is more complex than whats park at McCarran and Searchlight fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jet_plane, NCR can train some FNG to fly one of those in short order.
3) why not there is literally no downside to that deal, hell they can test fly the planes themselves. they are not like the BoS who are total shut ins. sure they may not let anyone they dont trust in Nellis but anyone of them there would probably jump at the chance to fly a damn plane. hell if anything the NCR can make a deal to make the Boomers part of the Airforce of make one if it doesnt exist already.
2) flying Virtibird of any kind is more complex than whats park at McCarran and Searchlight fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jet_plane, NCR can train some FNG to fly one of those in short order.
3) why not there is literally no downside to that deal, hell they can test fly the planes themselves. they are not like the BoS who are total shut ins. sure they may not let anyone they dont trust in Nellis but anyone of them there would probably jump at the chance to fly a damn plane. hell if anything the NCR can make a deal to make the Boomers part of the Airforce of make one if it doesnt exist already.
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sheepnut (12/24/2015) [-]
>not total shut-ins
>bombard anyone who approaches them with artillery, even prior to the trade deals with the NCR
come on man I'm not saying the idea is bad, in fact I like it if you read my first spoiler you'd know I was a fan but the Boomers are isolationist and they don't like other people.
>bombard anyone who approaches them with artillery, even prior to the trade deals with the NCR
come on man I'm not saying the idea is bad, in fact I like it if you read my first spoiler you'd know I was a fan but the Boomers are isolationist and they don't like other people.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] Too bad the NCR is about as powerful as the late-game Minutemen. If weaker, because the laser musket gets OP as **** with 6 cranks. Ignoring retarded, glitched vertibird pilots, the BoS has literally every advantage. Power Armor, laser rifles, Liberty Prime, a ******** of mininukes, and more vertibirds.
Elder Maxsons glorious beard alone would take out the NCR.
Elder Maxsons glorious beard alone would take out the NCR.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] do you even know how ******* big the NCR is? the ones in NV are all but cut off from California Joshua Graham said it himself that if what happened in the Divide didn't **** up the NCR supply line they would have steam rolled the Legion and would have owned the mojave earlier.
and the small cut-off force reduced the mojave chapter of the BoS to single bunker.
and the small cut-off force reduced the mojave chapter of the BoS to single bunker.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] fallout.wikia.com/wiki/New_California_Republic
They are roughly a century behind the BoS in terms of technology, training, and supplies. They get ****** by raiders that couldn't handle a BoS field scribe. Literally, the only thing they have going for them, is the Anti-mat rifles.
They are roughly a century behind the BoS in terms of technology, training, and supplies. They get ****** by raiders that couldn't handle a BoS field scribe. Literally, the only thing they have going for them, is the Anti-mat rifles.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] from the same wiki on the California side of the NCR BoS war. fallout.wikia.com/wiki/NCR-Brotherhood_War
"The Brotherhood enjoyed a considerable advantage during the early years of the war, as their advanced technology and high standards of training allowed them to inflict tremendous losses on the NCR's military. However, the NCR had a far larger pool of manpower from which to draw troops, while the Brotherhood remained a selective organization, allowing the NCR to easily replace its losses while the Brotherhood became desperate. The Brotherhood fought fiercely, but in the end the NCR's numbers prevailed, and the Brotherhood forces were overwhelmed, forcing them into hiding. Having lost the surface, the Brotherhood prepared themselves to fight to the death as the NCR began to invade their bunkers."
"The Brotherhood enjoyed a considerable advantage during the early years of the war, as their advanced technology and high standards of training allowed them to inflict tremendous losses on the NCR's military. However, the NCR had a far larger pool of manpower from which to draw troops, while the Brotherhood remained a selective organization, allowing the NCR to easily replace its losses while the Brotherhood became desperate. The Brotherhood fought fiercely, but in the end the NCR's numbers prevailed, and the Brotherhood forces were overwhelmed, forcing them into hiding. Having lost the surface, the Brotherhood prepared themselves to fight to the death as the NCR began to invade their bunkers."
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] The infinite number of synths the Institute had, didn't really help them.
We're talking Fallout 4 BoS. Who are stronger now than they ever have been.
We're talking Fallout 4 BoS. Who are stronger now than they ever have been.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] stronger how? equipment? the F4 BoS have the same **** any BoS chapter have. not to mention the NCR has Gun Runners to supply them with Brand New Equipment.
experienced soldiers? the NCR has fought off the enclave main force, the Cali and Mojave BoS. Khans and the Legion. and the last four were practically at the same time. not to mention they have ghouls that were soldiers since before the bombs fell who are now Veteran Rangers and they have the numbers.
experienced soldiers? the NCR has fought off the enclave main force, the Cali and Mojave BoS. Khans and the Legion. and the last four were practically at the same time. not to mention they have ghouls that were soldiers since before the bombs fell who are now Veteran Rangers and they have the numbers.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] Equipment is all they need, since one Knight in Power Armor is worth 10 soldiers without. Not to mention Liberty Prime, worth 100,000 soldiers alone.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] those equipment, those T-45's and T-51's, those energy weapons didn't help the California and Mojave BoS any did they. didn't help the Enclave either.
and for liberty prime? it was wrecked once. and would be the first target.
and for liberty prime? it was wrecked once. and would be the first target.
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thesovereigngrave (12/23/2015) [-] The East Coast Brotherhood also aren't the isolationist nutjobs that the West Coast are. Yeah, they believe that technology should be kept in the hands of the Brotherhood but they still recruit from the population. Meaning they have a larger pool of manpower than the West Coast chapters that refused to let any outsiders in.
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thesovereigngrave (12/23/2015) [-] If the NCR and East Coast Brotherhood ever came into conflict, it'd likely be somewhere in the middle of the continent because the Brotherhood isn't going to stop expanding either.
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thesovereigngrave (12/23/2015) [-] You mean the nation that had already overextended itself just by moving into the Mojave?
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iamkagji ONLINE (12/23/2015) [-] That was the result of the Divide ******* up supply lines. Before that everything was going perfectly for them. Now that they have New Vegas, there's nothing stopping them from fixing that issue.
Let me put this into perspective. The NCR took on the west coast Brotherhood when they were less than a quarter the size they were in New Vegas. Compared to the east coast, which is just the remnants of an expeditionary force, the west coast brotherhood was
-better organized
-more heavily fortified
-better equipped
-had superior training
Sure, the east coast has Liberty Prime, but the NCR has an orbital laser, aircraft, ********* of anti-armor weaponry, probably tanks and **** too. They also have the stated goal of expansion, which isn't even a secondary goal for the east coast Brotherhood. If a conflict were to occur, the NCR would come in full-force and steamroll them with their superior numbers and almost limitless resources. Just like they did with the west coast.
Let me put this into perspective. The NCR took on the west coast Brotherhood when they were less than a quarter the size they were in New Vegas. Compared to the east coast, which is just the remnants of an expeditionary force, the west coast brotherhood was
-better organized
-more heavily fortified
-better equipped
-had superior training
Sure, the east coast has Liberty Prime, but the NCR has an orbital laser, aircraft, ********* of anti-armor weaponry, probably tanks and **** too. They also have the stated goal of expansion, which isn't even a secondary goal for the east coast Brotherhood. If a conflict were to occur, the NCR would come in full-force and steamroll them with their superior numbers and almost limitless resources. Just like they did with the west coast.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] They use T-60 in fallout 4. Second best Power Armor in the game.
And they obliterated the Enclave at every turn.
It was wrecked once before, and was remade to be much better.
And they obliterated the Enclave at every turn.
It was wrecked once before, and was remade to be much better.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] if those early NCR soldiers from F2 can contend with the enclave and their better armor with just sheer numbers, I guarantee you post Vegas NCR can deal with the T-60's fine and with experience fighting and wining against assholes with Power Armor they'd develop strategies and equipment against them. namely fielding their own Power Armor units. sure they were salvaged from dead enclave and bos soldiers but hey they work.
for prime. well everything has a weakness, it be hard to find yes but Im sure if they chuck enough fire power to it it'll break again.
for prime. well everything has a weakness, it be hard to find yes but Im sure if they chuck enough fire power to it it'll break again.
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heartlessrobot (12/23/2015) [-] No, not really. You can deal as much damage as you want against him, he never dies if you sided with the BoS in Fallout 4.
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greasylightning (12/23/2015) [-] gameplay yes. but not story wise. a concentrated fire of anti-armor munitions would bring it down just fine. and the NCR has those resources to field against it.
