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Studying Shakespeare

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fiteme kid in my engilsh class: so if Shakespeare was writing for the uneducated then
why are we studying rt?
Miss the real question Is, if Shakespeare wrote it For the uneducated. then
why are you having so much trouble with it.
The whole dass turns in to a black audience at a rap baptise
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#46 - diroccodoodleedoo (09/09/2013) [-]
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#202 to #46 - chaotickaas (09/09/2013) [-]
where is this from?
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User avatar #99 to #46 - dementedsoul (09/09/2013) [-]
I'm not going to lie, I stared at this for fking ever until I realized it looped...
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User avatar #119 to #46 - GoodGood (09/09/2013) [-]
dat loop
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User avatar #84 to #46 - homelessgus (09/09/2013) [-]
that is a very well made gif
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User avatar #116 to #46 - sixtyeightplusone (09/09/2013) [-]
I love how this is perfectly looped to where the guy with his hands on his face walking by the camera just keeps going lol.
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#159 to #116 - anon (09/09/2013) [-]
If you look to the left and right of the guy as he goes in front of the camera, you'll see that both sides are different, as one side wobbles while the other side doesn't.
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#2 - Gigsta (09/08/2013) [-]
Miss DeBruin's FW
Miss DeBruin's FW
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User avatar #13 to #2 - lobstersoup (09/09/2013) [-]
Isn't this the guy who can see all the futures? What movie is it from?
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User avatar #24 to #13 - teasquid (09/09/2013) [-]
Males in White the trilogy
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User avatar #146 to #13 - dyllygaf (09/09/2013) [-]
His name is Griffin and he is my new favorite character in MIB history
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User avatar #43 to #13 - cannibalhannibal (09/09/2013) [-]
MIB III
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User avatar #27 to #13 - smellmyfaceforswag (09/09/2013) [-]
MIB= Men In Black
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User avatar #25 to #13 - randomlunchbox (09/09/2013) [-]
Romeo and Juliet
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#96 - GAC (09/09/2013) [-]
Lightbulbs face when last sentence
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User avatar #193 to #96 - spysappinmysasha (09/09/2013) [-]
you think you're so cool don't ya.
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User avatar #199 to #96 - sattaman (09/09/2013) [-]
THUGLAFE*
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#9 to #7 - bemmo (09/09/2013) [-]
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#19 to #9 - batwill **User deleted account** (09/09/2013) [-]
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#11 - crazyspireman (09/09/2013) [-]
Lightbulb's fw first sentence
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#187 to #11 - anon (09/09/2013) [-]
**** you ignorant faggot.
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#212 to #187 - crazyspireman (09/09/2013) [-]
log in and say that
log in and say that
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#4 - dafuckisthisshit (09/08/2013) [-]
other student's faces when
other student's faces when
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User avatar #59 to #4 - drjake (09/09/2013) [-]
is there a .gif of Edge without his nose? I would like it.
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#95 to #59 - TheMagicBong (09/09/2013) [-]
Something tells me you know it exists, and here, after a 2 second google, I present to you, noseless
Something tells me you know it exists, and here, after a 2 second google, I present to you, noseless
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#12 - newsugarbriches (09/09/2013) [-]
King Lear and Macbeth are my favorite to watch and to study still to this day. But I love Mid Summer Night's Dream and Coriolanus as well

Shakespeare is some bad ass **** . Reading it and studying the language he uses is tough, but one you read between the lines, so to speak, it is breathtakingly brilliant.

His sonnets are marvelous too

Sorry I'm an English major. I love me some Chaucer too
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#65 to #12 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Much Ado About Nothing!
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#140 to #12 - bithcwits (09/09/2013) [-]
Cut me to pieces, Volsces; men and lads,
Stain all your edges on me. Boy! false hound!
If you have writ your annals true, 'tis there,
That, like an eagle in a dove-cote, I
Flutter'd your Volscians in Corioli:
Alone I did it. Boy!
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User avatar #18 to #12 - holycrapimacupcake (09/09/2013) [-]
I love Victorian and Renaissance literature.
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User avatar #210 to #18 - newsugarbriches (09/09/2013) [-]
Me too. The Rape of the Lock by Alexander Pope and Frankenstein came from that era. The Rape of the Lock is an absolutely hilarious satire if you just sit down and read it, and we all know Mary Shelley's: Frankenstein is ******* BADASS
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User avatar #211 to #210 - holycrapimacupcake (09/09/2013) [-]
The Divine Comedy.
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User avatar #213 to #211 - newsugarbriches (09/09/2013) [-]
right?!??!? I cracked up when I read that those bitches were struggling to breath in their corsets and their ******* lap dogs and **** . I would love to see a modern day adaption movie of The Rape of the Lock..." like omg like no way like my hair, like seriously, like omg"
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User avatar #214 to #213 - holycrapimacupcake (09/10/2013) [-]
I have to admit...I wold watch that.
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User avatar #215 to #214 - newsugarbriches (09/10/2013) [-]
maybe if it was a Judd Apatow though. A true satire would need either him or Mel Brooks or possibly even Joss Whedon . Armatures need not apply
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#14 to #12 - crazyspireman (09/09/2013) [-]
reminded me of this
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#45 to #14 - sabcy (09/09/2013) [-]
bros in hose
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#41 - stopeatingshit (09/09/2013) [-]
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#180 - savyx (09/09/2013) [-]
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User avatar #181 to #180 - dafogman (09/09/2013) [-]
So, someone plated the race card?
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#141 - josieabby (09/09/2013) [-]
The whole class turns into a black audience at a rap battle, except for the Asian kid. He gave no ***** .
The whole class turns into a black audience at a rap battle, except for the Asian kid. He gave no ***** .
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User avatar #170 to #141 - darkangeloffire (09/09/2013) [-]
Hehe, Blazing Saddles. Great movie.
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#174 to #170 - josieabby (09/09/2013) [-]
Yes it is. It's a classic and a personal favorite of mine.
Yes it is. It's a classic and a personal favorite of mine.
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#152 - slimeywaffles (09/09/2013) [-]
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#198 to #152 - anon (09/09/2013) [-]
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User avatar #161 to #152 - zraven (09/09/2013) [-]
knew this gif was coming.
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#145 - josieabby (09/09/2013) [-]
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#26 - ffinfinity (09/09/2013) [-]
kids face when he gets told
kids face when he gets told
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User avatar #16 - rambomanthree (09/09/2013) [-]
It's not that i am stupid.

I just have more of a science and history brain, rather than an english and art brain.

that and old english is hard as **** to understand.
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User avatar #50 to #16 - Nihatclodra (09/09/2013) [-]
Bepæcestran béoþ unwísan.
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#69 to #16 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
That's perfectly find. We need people like you in this world!
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#132 to #16 - swagbot (09/09/2013) [-]
Watch - this is fascinating:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

I used to hate Shakespeare, but once i read Henry V's Agincourt Speech enough to decode it (it is a friggin BAD-ASS speech too!), i finally appreciated him and all his other works became easier to understand:

You need to login to view this link

(P.S. - i can repeat the whole thing from memory now )
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#115 - juandurfel (09/09/2013) [-]
Classes face when:
Classes face when:
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#131 to #115 - kmang (09/09/2013) [-]
more like
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#122 to #115 - ROTFLcopter **User deleted account** (09/09/2013) [-]
How does this loop so perfectly? There's just an infinite stream of ******* passing one by one in front of the crowd of ******* .
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#143 to #115 - josieabby (09/09/2013) [-]
and then...overload
and then...overload
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#33 - anon (09/09/2013) [-]
Probably because the english language was very different 4 or 5 centuries ago, what a bitchy teacher
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#61 to #33 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
That, and two other reasons. 1. Shakespeare often made references to and/or parodied certain aspects of culture at that time, references that we would not understand as people would then. 2. Shakespeare is not meant to be read, it is meant to be performed by actors for an audience. It is much more understandable (and interesting) on a stage than it is on a piece of paper.
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#126 to #61 - swagbot (09/09/2013) [-]
HOLY **** YES!!

I watched this video about a year ago, and only until now has it been so relevant!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

Watch to the end, it's pretty friggin' cool!
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#63 to #61 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Have you ever actually consumed a Shakespeare play in your life?
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#64 to #63 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
What part of my comment do you disagree with?
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#66 to #64 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
That he is parodying certain aspects of his culture. Shakespeare was mainly known for his tragedies which are not attempting anything humorous or satiric. Also, I, personally, don't find Shakespeare to be easier to understand on stage than on paper; I find it's easier when you can come back and read the verses a couple of times and let their meaning sink in. If you watch it live, you basically always have to follow the action and have less energy to spend on his incredibly clever (read not humorous/witty) dialogue.
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#67 to #66 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
Are you kidding me? He was known to be very satirical of the rich.
About the second part, maybe you just haven't seen a GOOD performance of Shakespeare? If the actors don't know what they're doing or how to properly convey the material, it can be harder to understand.
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#68 to #67 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
I'm sorry, but I really have to disagree with you on your first point. Maybe are you confusing Shakespeare with Moliere? Shakespeare wasn't really a satirist per se, Moliere was. Could you tell me exactly which of Shakespeare plays you saw?
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#70 to #68 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
I've seen several, including A Midsummer Night's Dream, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet (of course), and Othello. I've read these as well.
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#71 to #70 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Okay, interesting... Could you point at one play you just mentioned that is anything near a comedy-of-manners?
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#72 to #71 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
A Midsummer Night's Dream is most definitely a comedy.
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#74 to #72 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Totally, but I don't think it really satirizes the upper-class... Or maybe it does, I haven't read it in a long while. My point was that Shakespeare was more renowned for his tragedies than comedies and MacBeth, Romeo and Juliet, and Othello are all tragedies.
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#75 to #74 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
I do not deny that, but my point was that he does often use satire and he makes references, sexual innuendos, etc. that we would not understand today.
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#76 to #75 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Why wouldn't we understand those today? These are typical elements of high comedy and are cross-cultural and cross-historical.
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#77 to #76 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
People behaved differently in regards to sex, class, etc. and again, there are references to cultural behaviors and views that simply do not exist today as they did back then.
Also, I thought I might point out that Romeo and Juliet is, in a way, a satirical comedy as well as a tragedy. Shakespeare was essentially mocking young love.
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#78 to #77 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Yes, you are right about Romeo and Juliet. I agree with you. I think Shakespeare is worth reading simply for his wordsmith-y and incredibly well plotted out stories.
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#80 to #78 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, I don't deny the intellectual value of his work, but someone today isn't necessarily stupid or illiterate just because they do not understand it as the uneducated people of his time did.
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#81 to #80 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Oh! If that was your point, I never meant to disagree with it.
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#82 to #81 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
It's alright!
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#73 to #72 - myshipsailedwoutme (09/09/2013) [-]
Many of his dramas also contain comedic relief, much of which is satire.
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#35 to #33 - thevic (09/09/2013) [-]
agreed

it's one of those ******** arguments that sound cool but have no basis whatsoever and only people who suck at argumentation would laugh at it
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#150 - acehades (09/09/2013) [-]
Hfw
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#60 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
Maybe because the language was new and confusing when it was new, and now it's just archaic and stupid.
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#87 to #60 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
You do know that Shakespeare is considered one of the greatest writers in human history, right?
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User avatar #88 to #87 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
He stole all of his plays except 1 (Midsummer Nights Dream) and rewrote them in different words.

Try to do that today, I ******* dare you.
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User avatar #123 to #88 - theshadowed (09/09/2013) [-]
Thats a conspiracy with no actual evidence
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User avatar #136 to #123 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
Aaaand you don't know what I'm even talking about
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User avatar #195 to #136 - theshadowed (09/09/2013) [-]
You're saying Shakespeare stole his plays. Like this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question
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#90 to #88 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
What? That's not even remotely true. Maybe you mean that he based his plays on known stories of his time? Well, that's what humans have been doing ever since, I don't see a problem there.
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User avatar #92 to #90 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
Uhuh.
Try to do that today.
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User avatar #107 to #92 - themongoose (09/09/2013) [-]
Disney.
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User avatar #108 to #107 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
I dont like them either
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User avatar #109 to #108 - themongoose (09/09/2013) [-]
Doesn't really matter if you like it or not. You said "try to do that today."

It is done often. It is done extremely successfully. It is done today. Your point is null.
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User avatar #111 to #109 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
Yes but Disney isn't exactly heralded as the greatest movie company in the world.
In fact they're openly criticized for their many mistakes and evils.
These criticisms arent exactly popular but at least they're THERE.

With shakespeare there's...well, buttrustled people like me who rant on the internet.
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User avatar #112 to #111 - themongoose (09/09/2013) [-]
Non sequitur. Back to the original statement, "Try to do that today."

I reiterate, it is done today.
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#189 to #111 - anon (09/09/2013) [-]
shut up you ignorant faggot.
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#93 to #92 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
... I just answered you. We've been doing this forever up to this very second. Every film is a rewriting of an old story (sometimes it's even a remake (i.e The Great Gatsby)).
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User avatar #98 to #93 - mindsculptorjace ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
Please disreagard miia, it's past her bedtime and she's cranky from lack of coil-cuddles.
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User avatar #100 to #98 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
I'm cranky because of this archaic, overrated PoS feather-in-inkpot FRILLS AROUND MY NECK FAGGOT WRITER WHO CANT DO ANYTHING ORIGINAL
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#160 to #100 - meinneger (09/09/2013) [-]
You're so hilariously dumb.
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#125 to #100 - jaisharha (09/09/2013) [-]
Are you talking about the people who question that he did not in fact write his plays or merely that he wrote on common archetypes of the day?
Because in the second case... that's pretty much every story ever, he just wrote them well, played with twists and characters that hadn't been written on much before.

In regards to this particular post... the feather in inkpot and frills around the neck... its kinda affectations of the time... you cant exactly knock him for living in a very silly pompous age.

I agree with some of the others that it is somewhat stupid that we still praise him, by todays standards he offers nothing new but seriously... the man lived to barely see the 1600's... if there was something new on offer for us there, he is still worth studying as the basis for number of our still in use archetypes.

I mean will still study the story of Oedipus as one of the great stories and that was written in the 5th century BC...
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#102 to #100 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Miia, come on. What you said is just plain stupid.
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#103 to #102 - miia ONLINE (09/09/2013) [-]
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User avatar #106 to #103 - RoyalNightmare (09/09/2013) [-]
You're really not letting this distaste for William go, are you? I personally agree that he's probably a bit over-praised. But when you look at history, it's clear that we've celebritized almost nothing but plagarizers and liars. Washington, Edison, Ford, etc. Some of the greatest minds, the ones we teach our children about, blatantly lied, stole or embellished their ideas and accomplishments.

Might as well accept that Shakespeare will be forever heralded as a genius in the field of playwright, because that's how history will always label him.
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#120 to #106 - vapaus (09/09/2013) [-]
Many people make great philosophy, belief, and what-not that easily redefines things to a better perspective. It is nearly impossible for anyone to convey those views to others in such a way that allows an accurate understanding. We don't praise people for the ideas they make, we praise them for sharing it in the best way we could imagine. No great philosophy is known by a fault in one's words, and memory comes from the spreading of these ideas over the larger scale. Shakespeare had the words, others had the ideas, we received them thoroughly.
Many people make great philosophy, belief, and what-not that easily redefines things to a better perspective.

It is nearly impossible for anyone to convey those views to others in such a way that allows an accurate understanding. We don't praise people for the ideas they make, we praise them for sharing it in the best way we could imagine. No great philosophy is known by a fault in one's words, and memory comes from the spreading of these ideas over the larger scale. Shakespeare had the words, others had the ideas, we received them thoroughly.
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#101 to #98 - pkrbarmoviea (09/09/2013) [-]
Ha ha! I thought so too.
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#127 to #60 - swagbot (09/09/2013) [-]
Watch - cool video about that (FJ led me to this video over a year ago)!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s

I've come to appreciate Shakespeare a lot, but no wonder that **** was so confusing!
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#138 - DarkestLink (09/09/2013) [-]
Me in class
Me in class
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