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User avatar #4 - gunmandude (11/17/2014) [-]
I have been looking for this story for SOOOOOOOO LOONNGGGG. Thank you sir. you have my thanks, and my thumb.
User avatar #9 - ironsoul (11/17/2014) [-]
Haste grants an extra attack, not an extra action, it cannot be used to cast another spell.
www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/haste.htm
You have to prepare an action to counterspell.You don't get an extra from haste, so he couldn't counterspell it.
www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm
Psionic characters get to choose which powers they lose when they take negative levels. Albeit with that many negative levels, she probably would have lost it anyways, but it should have been explained when she took the level loss.
www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicPowersOverview.htm
Pixies have spell resistance, and he never mentions having to beat it. Assuming they have the same CR, he should have failed about half the spells targeted at her. This may have just been left out for story telling purposes.
www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/sprite.htm

TLR Winning is easy when you get twice as many actions as you should and your opponents don't know the rules.
User avatar #17 to #9 - numbertwozeldafan (11/17/2014) [-]
On Haste: Many DMs tend to either forget or ignore that fact. I've only run 3 campaigns, ever, but two of them had a guy with haste and I've always allowed it to be treated as an extra action.

3.5 homebrew, yo.
User avatar #19 to #17 - ironsoul (11/17/2014) [-]
Homebrew is fine, but he should have specified such if that is how his dm interprets the rules.
User avatar #20 to #19 - numbertwozeldafan (11/17/2014) [-]
On a side-note, all three of those sessions had my character (carried over from a previous session, now a lich), constantly ******* with the party. Poisoning their horses, burning down their quest tavern. You know, fun **** .
User avatar #21 to #9 - xxhadesflamesxx (11/17/2014) [-]
GM probably homebrewed a lot of stuff
User avatar #39 to #9 - duthar (11/18/2014) [-]
Unfortunately I don't recall the exact spell name, but it was something I dredged up from the depths of one of the 60+ 3.5e books I had. I ended up digging through a good deal of magic based books in my free time while I was playing a wizard.

There is a spell that, so long as it is in effect, allows you to counterspell as a free action. I believe it is a one use only thing, so if you choose to counterspell as a free action, you lose the possibility to do so until you reapply it.

That could explain the possibility of essentially waving your hand and saying "that spell doesn't occur." There's nothing quite like being able to just say "no" to spells directed at you.
#45 to #9 - amuzen ONLINE (11/20/2014) [-]
they wouldn't have the same CL because pixies have a level adjustment of +4 (+6 if she took the dance which if I remember correctly in the MM isn't optional and since she is a noob probably found that super attractive even if it were) and the 1 hit die in fey meaning her spell resistance would be 7+ECL meaning any spell he cast he would only have to roll a 7 minus the level of the level of the spell to overcome it meaning unless he rolled a nat 1 he wasn't going to fail to overcome her spell resistance.

3.0 haste + the ML requirement for using powers means that assuming they had an ECL of 20 he only had to lower her level by 3 to make it so that disintegrate would be out of her reach which is pretty likely

I'd say the biggest thing is that monster levels just don't equal out against class levels in D&D, he didn't really pick and choose rules to follow so much as he minimaxed from as many sources as possible which is exactly what the DM told him to do.
User avatar #48 to #45 - ironsoul (11/20/2014) [-]
The dance is optional.
#49 to #48 - amuzen ONLINE (11/20/2014) [-]
that's true and in that case he has a 15% chance to fail the spell resistance, assuming she didn't take the dance and he didn't take any feats/abilities that could have improved his ability to overcome spell resistance.
#11 to #9 - anon (11/17/2014) [-]
You must be great at parties.

jk we're talking about dnd. Neither of us are great at parties.
User avatar #29 to #9 - wakami (11/18/2014) [-]
He said he was playing 3.0/3.5
3.0 Haste: dndtools.eu/spells/players-handbook-30--106/haste--5029/
And Psionic Disintigrate requires an ML of at least 11 to be able to manifest it due to the "Can't spend more power points than your ML rule"
Negative levels would definitely affect that,
User avatar #15 to #9 - gyptice (11/17/2014) [-]
Pixies have a +4 level modifier. You really think that the DM would let them have everything from it? ***** please. Also, we don't know the level of this party. Just look at the amount of loot they got. Sure, it might have been inflated to get them used to it, but not that much, so it's safe to assume they are fairly decent level of at least 10-14. Not too hard to beat a 15 spell resistance on a d20 roll when you're getting +10-14.

As for your haste problem: www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Haste,_Greater_ (3.5e_Spell)

Depending on this interpretation of haste, he could have had a counterspell ready from his greater haste. Either way, that didn't break the encounter at all. He had them done anyways and a dispel wouldn't have made a difference.
User avatar #18 to #15 - ironsoul (11/17/2014) [-]
First off, he specified when he used the improved versions of other spells, he did not do so with haste, so I was forced to assume he meant good old generic haste.

Secondly, he casts a 9th level spell, the disjunction (albeit from a scroll) while the pixie is rendered unable to use a mere 6th level power, so yes, I am forced to assume the pixie suffers from level adjustment, and thus gets their full racial abilities. Pixie spell resistance gets stronger as they do, and it is their level+14. Since the pixie can cast psionic disintegrate, this means it is at LEAST 25, not a piffling 15.
Furthermore, gaining extra actions is consistently considered to be one of the most reliable ways to break a character beyond all redemption.
If he hadn't counterspelled the sorcerer, a canny caster would have SILENCED him, rendering him unable to cast virtually anything, and thereby rendering him down to a highly buffed commoner. Follow that up with a few fireballs, and he is extra crispy.
User avatar #23 to #18 - gyptice (11/18/2014) [-]
If he isn't casting greater haste on himself at that level then I think that would be kind of silly. The guy seems smarter than that. Sure, he didn't say he used greater, but can't we assume he did? Also, if something is to be labeled broken it would be that level of spell resistance especially on a PC. That level of spell resistance means that a character of equal caster level as the pixie has a 20% chance of hitting the target. IMHO that was more op than extra actions, which are also strong. Also we would be giving the sorcerer the benefit of the doubt that his dispel would have worked after all those negative levels, which I'm just going to say probably not.
#46 to #23 - amuzen ONLINE (11/20/2014) [-]
remember it's 15+CLASS levels spell resistance meaning if they have the same ECL it's actually 8+ECL since the pixies level adjustment is 6 and she has to take a hit die in fey.
Then the opposing players to add their caster level + the spell level to the roll so if he's casting a 7th level or higher spell and is the same ECL he has a 95% chance to overcome it.
User avatar #47 to #46 - gyptice (11/20/2014) [-]
You're right. But I don't know many dm's who let a +6 level mod pc in their games is all I was saying.
User avatar #22 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
To long to read, **** it, **** you/ Someone summarize it
User avatar #24 to #22 - aximil (11/18/2014) [-]
Experienced player is playing with newbs/people unfamiliar with that version of DnD.
Supporting from the back line and letting them have the spotlight because they're newbies.
They all get greedy and want his loot because it didn't seem like he was doing much, even though he was doing everything.
He said no.
#25 to #22 - zenethe (11/18/2014) [-]
Experienced player plays with a bunch of new kids, he takes a backseat role and they see that as not contributing much so they think he should give up loot. When he refuses they try to kill him but he was ready for it and let them think it worked. The next morning he shows up and ***** them all up in 18 seconds.
User avatar #26 to #22 - makonendrak (11/18/2014) [-]
Necromancer plays support
Supporting a bunch of noobs
Gets ****** over
***** the party back
Wins
Royally. ******* . ***** . Them
Starts a new campaign and everyone wants to do it
User avatar #27 to #22 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
3 players were noobs
experienced player made a wizard who does most of the work by debuffing the enemies and making the noobs seem like super heroes
after a hundred or so hours of gametime, the noobs get greedy and say that the wizard does nothing for them cuz he doesn't do much damage
noobs decide to assassinate wizard
wizard realizes this, and traps them
after noobs kill clone, wizard launches surprise attack
wizard kills them all

It's better when you read it
User avatar #28 to #27 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
Would make more sense if I didn't know **** all about WOW
User avatar #30 to #28 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
its not a video game btw
User avatar #31 to #30 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
how is someone a noob irl, with wizards
User avatar #32 to #31 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
its like a boardgame with lots of rules and no board.
User avatar #33 to #32 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
Dungeons and Dragons?
User avatar #34 to #33 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
yes
User avatar #35 to #34 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
Thanks. Give me red thumbs plz
#36 to #35 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
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User avatar #37 to #36 - satanisrealgod (11/18/2014) [-]
I said please. Did I not?
#38 to #37 - ecomp (11/18/2014) [-]
lol 2bad
lol 2bad
User avatar #3 - oubliette (11/17/2014) [-]
had me for a good few seconds
but i doubt the players stuck around to listen to his entire story and narration
esp since they're noobies, they probably rage quit and went to smoke or something
User avatar #5 to #3 - commissarcrunch (11/17/2014) [-]
once you've sunk a couple hundred hours in a campaign, you tend to stick things out, even when level drain enters the fray
User avatar #6 to #5 - pureevil (11/17/2014) [-]
Level drain is a bitch yes, but you've quite frankly just got to admire the level of outsmarting one had just recieved.
User avatar #7 to #6 - commissarcrunch (11/17/2014) [-]
yup
#2 - anon (11/17/2014) [-]
If a player like that i will be interested in finding out what kind of **** he will throw at his play as a dm 10/10 will be a player of his
#44 - IamPinhead (11/18/2014) [-]
Do not **** with an experienced power gamer.
#43 - hackmon (11/18/2014) [-]
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User avatar #41 - blackberryjack (11/18/2014) [-]
Dude. Whoa.
#10 - anon (11/17/2014) [-]
how the hell does it work with the players setting up traps that the other partymembers dont know about? Small notes to the DM?
#12 to #10 - tweetieh (11/17/2014) [-]
seconded this question
User avatar #13 to #10 - lexivex ONLINE (11/17/2014) [-]
Pretty much yeah
User avatar #14 to #10 - gyptice (11/17/2014) [-]
Yes.
#16 to #10 - alexanderh (11/17/2014) [-]
Paper notes passed to the GM, pulling the GM aside, or if possible, talking between sessions. But usually just passing notes to the GM
User avatar #8 - magicmatchsticks (11/17/2014) [-]
That's ******* beautiful. More?
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