When your team picks four cores
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thebluedream (11/10/2015) [-] Is it wrong that I main Ursa? I mean, it seems the guy gets hardly any love, yet he is such a useful character. Early game jungle can result in a mean SOB by mid game
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rattybastard ONLINE (11/11/2015) [-] Ursa isn't bad, bud jungle ursa against a competent team will rekt your **** . He does great in lane with a stunner; please, for the love of god, stop jungling.
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ScottMJfan (11/10/2015) [-] You should never jungle with Ursa. You get more experience and gold from any other lane.
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hypex (11/11/2015) [-] how the **** is jungle ursa bad
he has decent clear speed (not compared to enigma but for ***** sake hes enigma) or dedicated junglers like ench or chen. but you can really quickly get your lifesteal up and running then smoke rosh, the benefit of jungling also makes it harder to predict for the enemy team (you disappearing out of lane out of nowhere is rather obvious)
meanwhile, it means you can have another carry in the safelane, and if their lane is **** you level earthshock and get ez kills
with jungle farm and rosh you get a somewhat early blink considering your build (most often phase, lifesteal and a couple branches maybe a orb of venom)
tl: dr you cant just say "go safelane because it is superior to woods", because that is the case for all but 3 heroes... now go back to leddit with your **** strats
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he has decent clear speed (not compared to enigma but for ***** sake hes enigma) or dedicated junglers like ench or chen. but you can really quickly get your lifesteal up and running then smoke rosh, the benefit of jungling also makes it harder to predict for the enemy team (you disappearing out of lane out of nowhere is rather obvious)
meanwhile, it means you can have another carry in the safelane, and if their lane is **** you level earthshock and get ez kills
with jungle farm and rosh you get a somewhat early blink considering your build (most often phase, lifesteal and a couple branches maybe a orb of venom)
tl: dr you cant just say "go safelane because it is superior to woods", because that is the case for all but 3 heroes... now go back to leddit with your **** strats
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yoloswaggins (11/11/2015) [-] sure its better in lane, but a greedy 4th pos ursa can work if you have a decent lane support for your safelane.
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anon (11/10/2015) [-]
It's not wrong, he doesn't get love because he's not actually very good even with recent buffs. Hits like a truck, but a couple of ghost scepters/force staff and you can just kite him.
Jungle is sorta bad - good that it's an option if your lanes are stupid, but you'll get more XP and farm in a good lane.
Jungle is sorta bad - good that it's an option if your lanes are stupid, but you'll get more XP and farm in a good lane.
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thebluedream (11/10/2015) [-] True but I play pubs a lot so that instantly means most the time my lanes are stupid. However, if I have a half decent team I dont jungle and got straight for a lane
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putincanmeltcrimea (11/10/2015) [-] he doesnt get any love mainly because he always was "gay-pick" and now he is just mad op. but it doesnt really matter what you play as long as you dont **** it up and blame others.
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ministermax ONLINE (11/10/2015) [-] "When your team picks 4 cores"
...So every non-ranked game then?
...So every non-ranked game then?
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onlyheretoparty (11/11/2015) [-] i have played everything from 2k to 5k, and i can tell you they do this in ranked too.
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tormain (11/10/2015) [-] I've had too often with Phoenix praise be to his name , you call mid but then nobody picks a support and the last guy to lock in still picks QoP and takes mid.
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tormain (11/10/2015) [-] Absolutely true.
Mid/ Off lane/ Support.
He can escape/ initiate/ slow (speed and attack speed)/ nuke (without need of items)/ reset himself mid team fight and still deal damage and stun/ Heal and damage simultaneously.
How can anyone not like him.
Literally the only thing he can't do is carry the late game.
Except when someone goes Orchid, bkb, or has high attack speed. Than he's ******
Mid/ Off lane/ Support.
He can escape/ initiate/ slow (speed and attack speed)/ nuke (without need of items)/ reset himself mid team fight and still deal damage and stun/ Heal and damage simultaneously.
How can anyone not like him.
Literally the only thing he can't do is carry the late game.
Except when someone goes Orchid, bkb, or has high attack speed. Than he's ******
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ministermax ONLINE (11/10/2015) [-] I personally think that phoenix support is very bad. But, on the off chance you choose him and are forced out of mid/offlane by an ally, he can support as a last resort.
He really needs his starting items and levels.
And yeah, bird is stupidly powerful early/mid game. He does bad late game, then back to quite good super late game because the BkBs are all 5 seconds by that time.
What's your preferred item build?
He really needs his starting items and levels.
And yeah, bird is stupidly powerful early/mid game. He does bad late game, then back to quite good super late game because the BkBs are all 5 seconds by that time.
What's your preferred item build?
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tormain (11/10/2015) [-] True I don't like playing him as support, sun ray sucks early game and you can't properly get health items so you die pretty quickly.
Usually I play Phoenix mid with this build: Bottle -> Tranquils -> Heavens Halberd -> Heart of Tarrasque -> Shiva's guard -> Optionel (usually Necronomicon for all it's uses or Rod of Atos to keep people nice and warm near that giant ball of burning death that will be the last thing they ever see).
But lately I've come to appreciate the uses of Veil of Discord, it's cheap, it has good health regen and fixes mana issues. Sometimes I build Randiance but that's only when they have a lot of blink daggers or right-clickers.
Usually I play Phoenix mid with this build: Bottle -> Tranquils -> Heavens Halberd -> Heart of Tarrasque -> Shiva's guard -> Optionel (usually Necronomicon for all it's uses or Rod of Atos to keep people nice and warm near that giant ball of burning death that will be the last thing they ever see).
But lately I've come to appreciate the uses of Veil of Discord, it's cheap, it has good health regen and fixes mana issues. Sometimes I build Randiance but that's only when they have a lot of blink daggers or right-clickers.
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ministermax ONLINE (11/10/2015) [-] Veil on most magic based heroes, really.
Cheaper, usually more damage, but a bit less on the stats.
I only play offlane and go Tranquils > Veil >maybe mek > Refresher
I used to go refresher as a joke, but in the fight right games it's almost a broken item
Cheaper, usually more damage, but a bit less on the stats.
I only play offlane and go Tranquils > Veil >maybe mek > Refresher
I used to go refresher as a joke, but in the fight right games it's almost a broken item
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theroflcer (11/10/2015) [-] Feels good to naturally be a support by choice
(My main is Dazzle and I've become very well timed with his Shallow Grave)
(My main is Dazzle and I've become very well timed with his Shallow Grave)
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fappafappafap [OP](11/10/2015) [-] Yeah but it still must suck to be the only support on a 4 core team, especially when they begin the blaming...
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theroflcer (11/10/2015) [-] So long as I keep buying wards and don't get myself killed in short spans of time I don't ever tend to get the blame.
When it comes to other things (Such as Dewards and Smokes) I tend to get asked first instead of anyone demanding they be bought.
Since I don't take the idea of being the blamed one very well, I turn into the teams bitch, listen and then do whatevers asked. That way even if the team looses badly, I at least get the status of 'Loyal'
When it comes to other things (Such as Dewards and Smokes) I tend to get asked first instead of anyone demanding they be bought.
Since I don't take the idea of being the blamed one very well, I turn into the teams bitch, listen and then do whatevers asked. That way even if the team looses badly, I at least get the status of 'Loyal'
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ministermax ONLINE (11/10/2015) [-] And then the other team chooses axe and it's a sad, sad day
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fappafappafap [OP](11/10/2015) [-] Dazzle and Axe both hurt each other quite a bit actually. Axe R can pierce the grave but shadow wave can **** axe up if he tries to cut lane or stays too close to creeps. And weave makes his helix do almost nothing, but the grave piercing is oh so fun.
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danmegaflakes ONLINE (11/11/2015) [-] you misunderstand
this post is about dota 2
not league
this post is about dota 2
not league
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isabossfulla ONLINE (11/11/2015) [-] **isabossfulla used "*roll picture*"**
**isabossfulla rolled image** That was kinda the joke but whatever
**isabossfulla rolled image** That was kinda the joke but whatever
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stevencolbert (11/11/2015) [-] Is it bad that "All Pick" to me means "Well **** let's see who I can random?"
My versatility is at 98
My versatility is at 98
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xerodeath ONLINE (11/10/2015) [-]
the only 3 people i choose are centaur warrunner, dk and cm thats it no one els
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aggresiveduck (11/10/2015) [-] I picked Crystal first in a game. My team picked 4 cores as expected. None of them went mid. I had to go mid. Against Pudge. I dominated, got a 10 minute blink and mana boots. absolutley dominated the game, got a rampage and +25MMR
